When it comes to red state poverty, how do republicans explain it?

[Billy000]

Granted, liberal policies don't always work. Some socialist programs fail. Of course we know many are also successful. That's why not every blue state is equally thriving. At least progressives try out NEW ideas. Republicans just do the same shit over and over without ever trying new ideas.

The thing about red state economics is their philosophy on government: less government and more capitalism. The thing about ReaganEconomics is that, yes, top executives do make more money through the tax cuts, but that doesn't mean they give a shit about investing more in the wages of their workers. They just keep and pocket most of the money they save with tax cuts because, why not? It's a simple decision. They ask: what is the bare minimum in making their low-end job positions popular?

My point is that even though blue states have mixed results with economic experimentation, red state poverty is a constant. Mississippi, for instance, is the economic shithole of America even though taxes on the wealthy are low.

When it comes to economic prosperity, the solution is investing in consumers I.e. Demand-side economics. Give them tax breaks - not people already wealthy. They can easily handle tax hikes. From there, the poor and middle class will become bigger consumers thus businesses will thrive as a result. Everyone is happy that way

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Socialism is a "new idea"?

 

[tinydancer]

This shit has been blown out of the water so many times. Because the statistics are always based on Presidential voting and no other factors. AKA a grand caca aka total bullshit .

Can't you come up with new material?

 

[Billy000]

Socialism is a "new idea"?

New government programs are new "socialist" ideas.

 

[Kosh]

Granted, liberal policies don't always work. Some socialist programs fail. Of course we know many are also successful. That's why not every blue state is equally thriving. At least progressives try out NEW ideas. Republicans just do the same shit over and over without ever trying new ideas.

The thing about red state economics is their philosophy on government: less government and more capitalism. The thing about ReaganEconomics is that, yes, top executives do make more money through the tax cuts, but that doesn't mean they give a shit about investing more in the wages of their workers. They just keep and pocket most of the money they save with tax cuts because, why not? It's a simple decision. They ask: what is the bare minimum in making their low job positions popular?

My point is that even thought blue states have mixed results with economic experimentation, red states poverty is a constant. Mississippi, for instance, is the economic shithole of America even though taxes on the wealthy are low.

When it comes to economic prosperity, the solution is investing in consumers I.e. Demand-side economics. Give them tax breaks - not people already wealthy. They can easily handle tax hikes.

See how the far left promotes their far left religious agenda and has zero facts to back up their claims.

All those blue inner cities that are decaying under far left are the problem in any state red or blue..

Silly far left drone!

 

[MarcATL]

This shit has been blown out of the water so many times. Because the statistics are always based on Presidential voting and no other factors. AKA a grand caca aka total bullshit .

Can't you come up with new material?

There's noting to it. Rightwing policies don't work, hence the abject poverty in, especially rural areas, despite the fact that they are, and have been, governed by Republicans for decades.

You just don't like the answer, therefore you play stupid, and/or try to obfuscate and run away from the subject.

 

[flacaltenn]

There are a LOT of good reasons. One of the best is that you aren't looking at the whole picture.

Fool’s Gold: California Has The Highest Poverty Rate In The United States

According to the Census Bureau, nearly one-fourth (23.8 percent, up from a 20-year low of 12 percent in 2006,) of California's 38-million people live below the poverty line – with Latinos, now the state's single largest ethnic group, bearing the brunt of such deprivation. According to the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC), at least 6-million households in the state live with incomes below the federal poverty level (about $23,000 for a family of four). Poverty rates are extremely high not only for Latinos, but also African-Americans and those lacking in college diplomas. Reportedly, 5 million Latinos (one-third of their total number) are living in poverty in the state.

When I left Cali in 2005, the state income was so overweighted to soak "the rich" that LITERALLY just 40,000 residents were paying 12% of the total Cali Income tax. Many in the top quintile have fled. Like me for instance.

Another factor is Red states like Tenn are getting huge influxes of Blue state retirees.. Who have fucked up their states so badly, they simply can't afford to retire in them anymore.

I'm not a Republican, but I DO know -- I prefer the lean, efficient, responsible govt in Tenn to the clown circus in the Cali.. You can brag about concentrations of industry and business for a FEW more years, and then the jig is pretty much up.. My small town in Tenn has stolen 4 major companies from Cali since I moved here. And it's so pleasant, some of my neighbors COMMUTE out of state for work, but prefer to live here. We're just fine WITHOUT your concern.

And even tho you have TOO many topics in OP -- the "trickle up" consumer demand stuff simply doesn't work like it use to 20 or 30 years ago. USED to be you give away money to consumers and the factories would rev up, hire folks and create expansion. You do that "trick" now, and the ONLY THING that happens is more Chinese giant freighters arrive in Long Beach with the goods and they go directly to Amazon..

 

[Zander]

When will you loons stop trying to repackage the same old crap?

How many Venezuala's will it take?

 

[SYTFE]

Red states tend to be money sucking parasites because they're populated with brain dead conservatives. That's why. Going forward, we can only expect more of the same -- the productive blue states will continue to fund the red states because the idiots that inhabit them can't produce anything except the worlds fattest people.

 

[rdean]

Granted, liberal policies don't always work. Some socialist programs fail. Of course we know many are also successful. That's why not every blue state is equally thriving. At least progressives try out NEW ideas. Republicans just do the same shit over and over without ever trying new ideas.

The thing about red state economics is their philosophy on government: less government and more capitalism. The thing about ReaganEconomics is that, yes, top executives do make more money through the tax cuts, but that doesn't mean they give a shit about investing more in the wages of their workers. They just keep and pocket most of the money they save with tax cuts because, why not? It's a simple decision. They ask: what is the bare minimum in making their low-end job positions popular?

My point is that even though blue states have mixed results with economic experimentation, red state poverty is a constant. Mississippi, for instance, is the economic shithole of America even though taxes on the wealthy are low.

When it comes to economic prosperity, the solution is investing in consumers I.e. Demand-side economics. Give them tax breaks - not people already wealthy. They can easily handle tax hikes. From there, the poor and middle class will become bigger consumers thus businesses will thrive as a result. Everyone is happy that way

Republicans like to say it's the blacks.

Then you look at states like Kentucky and West Virginia and the black population is so small, the argument falls apart.

 

[Boss]

Granted, liberal policies don't always work. Some socialist programs fail. Of course we know many are also successful. That's why not every blue state is equally thriving. At least progressives try out NEW ideas. Republicans just do the same shit over and over without ever trying new ideas.

The thing about red state economics is their philosophy on government: less government and more capitalism. The thing about ReaganEconomics is that, yes, top executives do make more money through the tax cuts, but that doesn't mean they give a shit about investing more in the wages of their workers. They just keep and pocket most of the money they save with tax cuts because, why not? It's a simple decision. They ask: what is the bare minimum in making their low-end job positions popular?

My point is that even though blue states have mixed results with economic experimentation, red state poverty is a constant. Mississippi, for instance, is the economic shithole of America even though taxes on the wealthy are low.

When it comes to economic prosperity, the solution is investing in consumers I.e. Demand-side economics. Give them tax breaks - not people already wealthy. They can easily handle tax hikes. From there, the poor and middle class will become bigger consumers thus businesses will thrive as a result. Everyone is happy that way

Don't know if you realized this but Federal policies implemented from Washington are not made optional to the States. Red states don't have the option to refuse implementation of these programs, whether we like them or not, we have to adhere to Federal laws and mandates.

Now you make a LOT of false assumptions here. Just because a state is red or the people tend to vote Republican, doesn't mean they don't support programs which assist those in poverty. In fact, one of the reasons the Tea Party came into existence was because of the progressive policies of George W. Bush... namely, Medicare Part B (Pill Bill) and No Child Left Behind. Trump is proposing nationalized child care. So there are certainly programs being implemented by progressive "red state" republicans.

Someone needs to turn this question back around on you and ask why we're still having such a huge problem with poverty in this country after over 80 years of progressive policies? Obviously, you programs haven't fixed the problem!

All we EVER hear out of you is more of the same shit... Raise Taxes! Spend More! Raise Taxes! Gut the Military! Raise Taxes! More Entitlements! Raise Taxes! You never stop to look at the results of your insanity... just keep on, over and over, repeating the same mindless nonsense!

It is a proven fact of life that when you tax anything, less of it is produced. So whenever you tax high income, less high income is the result. This is why, when Reagan lowered the top marginal tax rates he increased the tax revenues by 75%. I know this doesn't compute with idiot lefties because your mind lives in a static vacuum where nothing ever changes. In reality, lower taxes on top marginal income results in more investment which creates more jobs... i.e.; taxpayers. When you have MORE taxpayers, the tax revenues will increase, even though you've lowered the tax rate. This isn't rhetoric, it can be confirmed at the US Treasury Dept. website.

So why do we want to raise taxes and reduce our tax revenues? How does that help anyone? And speaking of help.. how does it "help" someone to enable them to remain in the impoverished lives they have? Do you think an extra $20 to a welfare family is going to lift them from poverty? It hasn't so far and we've been trying this for a half a century. Why not try something different? You're a progressive, why not progress beyond your same old tried and failed policies? How about something to motivate and empower those at the bottom? Instead of lobbying for a few more crumbs to toss at them, why not encourage them to get off their asses and go to work? How about instead of reinforcing the victim mentality, reinforce the message that anyone can succeed if they put forth the effort?

I'll tell you why... because deep down, you don't want poor people to succeed because they won't need you anymore. You had rather keep them imprisoned in poverty so you can depend on their votes for your political power. Then, you can shake down capitalists so that your elitist political leaders can live like kings while spewing the same fucked-in-the-head nonsense they've spewed for decades.

 

[Billy000]

There are a LOT of good reasons. One of the best is that you aren't looking at the whole picture.

Fool’s Gold: California Has The Highest Poverty Rate In The United States

According to the Census Bureau, nearly one-fourth (23.8 percent, up from a 20-year low of 12 percent in 2006,) of California's 38-million people live below the poverty line – with Latinos, now the state's single largest ethnic group, bearing the brunt of such deprivation. According to the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC), at least 6-million households in the state live with incomes below the federal poverty level (about $23,000 for a family of four). Poverty rates are extremely high not only for Latinos, but also African-Americans and those lacking in college diplomas. Reportedly, 5 million Latinos (one-third of their total number) are living in poverty in the state.

When I left Cali in 2005, the state income was so overweighted to soak "the rich" that LITERALLY just 40,000 residents were paying 12% of the total Cali Income tax. Many in the top quintile have fled. Like me for instance.

Another factor is Red states like Tenn are getting huge influxes of Blue state retirees.. Who have fucked up their states so badly, they simply can't afford to retire in them anymore.

I'm not a Republican, but I DO know -- I prefer the lean, efficient, responsible govt in Tenn to the clown circus in the Cali.. You can brag about concentrations of industry and business for a FEW more years, and then the jig is pretty much up.. My small town in Tenn has stolen 4 major companies from Cali since I moved here. And it's so pleasant, some of my neighbors COMMUTE out of state for work, but prefer to live here. We're just fine WITHOUT your concern.

And even tho you have TOO many topics in OP -- the "trickle up" consumer demand stuff simply doesn't work like it use to 20 or 30 years ago. USED to be you give away money to consumers and the factories would rev up, hire folks and create expansion. You do that "trick" now, and the ONLY THING that happens is more Chinese giant freighters arrive in Long Beach with the goods and they go directly to Amazon..

A critical takeaway from your article that you are missing is that Cali's poverty rate isn't based on liberal policies. It's because of a few different factors. One of those being the lucrative Hollywood industry. A mega industry like that will involve minimizing labor costs for the sake of profit. That means lower wages for people. This also causes an increase in the cost of housing. You aren't going to see a drastic change in price within a 10 miles of the Malibu neighborhood in cost of housing. That makes the entire city of LA high in standard of living. That also happens to be where a large percentage of total Cali population.

Despite the income inequality in Cali, the tax rates on the wealthy are higher in comparison to other states.

 

[Kosh]

There are a LOT of good reasons. One of the best is that you aren't looking at the whole picture.

Fool’s Gold: California Has The Highest Poverty Rate In The United States

According to the Census Bureau, nearly one-fourth (23.8 percent, up from a 20-year low of 12 percent in 2006,) of California's 38-million people live below the poverty line – with Latinos, now the state's single largest ethnic group, bearing the brunt of such deprivation. According to the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC), at least 6-million households in the state live with incomes below the federal poverty level (about $23,000 for a family of four). Poverty rates are extremely high not only for Latinos, but also African-Americans and those lacking in college diplomas. Reportedly, 5 million Latinos (one-third of their total number) are living in poverty in the state.

When I left Cali in 2005, the state income was so overweighted to soak "the rich" that LITERALLY just 40,000 residents were paying 12% of the total Cali Income tax. Many in the top quintile have fled. Like me for instance.

Another factor is Red states like Tenn are getting huge influxes of Blue state retirees.. Who have fucked up their states so badly, they simply can't afford to retire in them anymore.

I'm not a Republican, but I DO know -- I prefer the lean, efficient, responsible govt in Tenn to the clown circus in the Cali.. You can brag about concentrations of industry and business for a FEW more years, and then the jig is pretty much up.. My small town in Tenn has stolen 4 major companies from Cali since I moved here. And it's so pleasant, some of my neighbors COMMUTE out of state for work, but prefer to live here. We're just fine WITHOUT your concern.

And even tho you have TOO many topics in OP -- the "trickle up" consumer demand stuff simply doesn't work like it use to 20 or 30 years ago. USED to be you give away money to consumers and the factories would rev up, hire folks and create expansion. You do that "trick" now, and the ONLY THING that happens is more Chinese giant freighters arrive in Long Beach with the goods and they go directly to Amazon..

A critical takeaway from your article that you are missing is that Cali's poverty rate isn't based on liberal policies. It's because of a few different factors. One of those being the lucrative Hollywood industry. A mega industry like that will involve minimizing labor costs for the sake of profit. That means lower wages for people. This also causes an increase in the cost of housing. You aren't going to see a drastic change in price within a 10 miles of the Malibu neighborhood in cost of housing. That makes the entire city of LA high in standard of living. That also happens to be where a large percentage of total Cali population.

Despite the income inequality in Cali, the tax rates on the wealthy are higher in comparison to other states.

Yep even the poor still pay a tax in California!

Lowest rate starting at zero dollars is 1%
Highest rate is 13.3%

California Income Tax Brackets 2017

So maybe that should be the model for the rest of the country since you are so fond of it!

Silly far left drone!

 

[PurpleOwl]

Socialism is a "new idea"?

newer than slavery? which is what you confederate hillfolk want

 

[flacaltenn]

There are a LOT of good reasons. One of the best is that you aren't looking at the whole picture.

Fool’s Gold: California Has The Highest Poverty Rate In The United States

According to the Census Bureau, nearly one-fourth (23.8 percent, up from a 20-year low of 12 percent in 2006,) of California's 38-million people live below the poverty line – with Latinos, now the state's single largest ethnic group, bearing the brunt of such deprivation. According to the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC), at least 6-million households in the state live with incomes below the federal poverty level (about $23,000 for a family of four). Poverty rates are extremely high not only for Latinos, but also African-Americans and those lacking in college diplomas. Reportedly, 5 million Latinos (one-third of their total number) are living in poverty in the state.

When I left Cali in 2005, the state income was so overweighted to soak "the rich" that LITERALLY just 40,000 residents were paying 12% of the total Cali Income tax. Many in the top quintile have fled. Like me for instance.

Another factor is Red states like Tenn are getting huge influxes of Blue state retirees.. Who have fucked up their states so badly, they simply can't afford to retire in them anymore.

I'm not a Republican, but I DO know -- I prefer the lean, efficient, responsible govt in Tenn to the clown circus in the Cali.. You can brag about concentrations of industry and business for a FEW more years, and then the jig is pretty much up.. My small town in Tenn has stolen 4 major companies from Cali since I moved here. And it's so pleasant, some of my neighbors COMMUTE out of state for work, but prefer to live here. We're just fine WITHOUT your concern.

And even tho you have TOO many topics in OP -- the "trickle up" consumer demand stuff simply doesn't work like it use to 20 or 30 years ago. USED to be you give away money to consumers and the factories would rev up, hire folks and create expansion. You do that "trick" now, and the ONLY THING that happens is more Chinese giant freighters arrive in Long Beach with the goods and they go directly to Amazon..

A critical takeaway from your article that you are missing is that Cali's poverty rate isn't based on liberal policies. It's because of a few different factors. One of those being the lucrative Hollywood industry. A mega industry like that will involve minimizing labor costs for the sake of profit. That means lower wages for people. This also causes an increase in the cost of housing. You aren't going to see a drastic change in price within a 10 miles of the Malibu neighborhood in cost of housing. That makes the entire city of LA high in standard of living. That also happens to be where a large percentage of total Cali population.

Despite the income inequality in Cali, the tax rates on the wealthy are higher in comparison to other states.

Hollywood can't AFFORD to produce films in America. You look at the credits and it reads like a world phone book. So only money is created as "an economy" there anymore. Of course, Cali rising poverty is based on liberal policies. They've CATERED to the illegal immigrant demographic. ENCOURAGED the growth of their own "cheap labor" force. They are worse than China in that regard. Adopting ESL standards for the schools which force other middle/upper class people to leave public schools. Standards that HURT immigrant children trying to RISE in the labor force in their country..

I've seen enough of the leftist folly out there. Middle/Upper people are fleeing. Only a matter of time.

 

[PurpleOwl]

There are a LOT of good reasons. One of the best is that you aren't looking at the whole picture.

Fool’s Gold: California Has The Highest Poverty Rate In The United States

According to the Census Bureau, nearly one-fourth (23.8 percent, up from a 20-year low of 12 percent in 2006,) of California's 38-million people live below the poverty line – with Latinos, now the state's single largest ethnic group, bearing the brunt of such deprivation. According to the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC), at least 6-million households in the state live with incomes below the federal poverty level (about $23,000 for a family of four). Poverty rates are extremely high not only for Latinos, but also African-Americans and those lacking in college diplomas. Reportedly, 5 million Latinos (one-third of their total number) are living in poverty in the state.

When I left Cali in 2005, the state income was so overweighted to soak "the rich" that LITERALLY just 40,000 residents were paying 12% of the total Cali Income tax. Many in the top quintile have fled. Like me for instance.

Another factor is Red states like Tenn are getting huge influxes of Blue state retirees.. Who have fucked up their states so badly, they simply can't afford to retire in them anymore.

I'm not a Republican, but I DO know -- I prefer the lean, efficient, responsible govt in Tenn to the clown circus in the Cali.. You can brag about concentrations of industry and business for a FEW more years, and then the jig is pretty much up.. My small town in Tenn has stolen 4 major companies from Cali since I moved here. And it's so pleasant, some of my neighbors COMMUTE out of state for work, but prefer to live here. We're just fine WITHOUT your concern.

And even tho you have TOO many topics in OP -- the "trickle up" consumer demand stuff simply doesn't work like it use to 20 or 30 years ago. USED to be you give away money to consumers and the factories would rev up, hire folks and create expansion. You do that "trick" now, and the ONLY THING that happens is more Chinese giant freighters arrive in Long Beach with the goods and they go directly to Amazon..

A critical takeaway from your article that you are missing is that Cali's poverty rate isn't based on liberal policies. It's because of a few different factors. One of those being the lucrative Hollywood industry. A mega industry like that will involve minimizing labor costs for the sake of profit. That means lower wages for people. This also causes an increase in the cost of housing. You aren't going to see a drastic change in price within a 10 miles of the Malibu neighborhood in cost of housing. That makes the entire city of LA high in standard of living. That also happens to be where a large percentage of total Cali population.

Despite the income inequality in Cali, the tax rates on the wealthy are higher in comparison to other states.

your not going to get anything besides "we blame the liberals"

 

[Billy000]

Granted, liberal policies don't always work. Some socialist programs fail. Of course we know many are also successful. That's why not every blue state is equally thriving. At least progressives try out NEW ideas. Republicans just do the same shit over and over without ever trying new ideas.

The thing about red state economics is their philosophy on government: less government and more capitalism. The thing about ReaganEconomics is that, yes, top executives do make more money through the tax cuts, but that doesn't mean they give a shit about investing more in the wages of their workers. They just keep and pocket most of the money they save with tax cuts because, why not? It's a simple decision. They ask: what is the bare minimum in making their low-end job positions popular?

My point is that even though blue states have mixed results with economic experimentation, red state poverty is a constant. Mississippi, for instance, is the economic shithole of America even though taxes on the wealthy are low.

When it comes to economic prosperity, the solution is investing in consumers I.e. Demand-side economics. Give them tax breaks - not people already wealthy. They can easily handle tax hikes. From there, the poor and middle class will become bigger consumers thus businesses will thrive as a result. Everyone is happy that way

Don't know if you realized this but Federal policies implemented from Washington are not made optional to the States. Red states don't have the option to refuse implementation of these programs, whether we like them or not, we have to adhere to Federal laws and mandates.

Now you make a LOT of false assumptions here. Just because a state is red or the people tend to vote Republican, doesn't mean they don't support programs which assist those in poverty. In fact, one of the reasons the Tea Party came into existence was because of the progressive policies of George W. Bush... namely, Medicare Part B (Pill Bill) and No Child Left Behind. Trump is proposing nationalized child care. So there are certainly programs being implemented by progressive "red state" republicans.

Someone needs to turn this question back around on you and ask why we're still having such a huge problem with poverty in this country after over 80 years of progressive policies? Obviously, you programs haven't fixed the problem!

All we EVER hear out of you is more of the same shit... Raise Taxes! Spend More! Raise Taxes! Gut the Military! Raise Taxes! More Entitlements! Raise Taxes! You never stop to look at the results of your insanity... just keep on, over and over, repeating the same mindless nonsense!

It is a proven fact of life that when you tax anything, less of it is produced. So whenever you tax high income, less high income is the result. This is why, when Reagan lowered the top marginal tax rates he increased the tax revenues by 75%. I know this doesn't compute with idiot lefties because your mind lives in a static vacuum where nothing ever changes. In reality, lower taxes on top marginal income results in more investment which creates more jobs... i.e.; taxpayers. When you have MORE taxpayers, the tax revenues will increase, even though you've lowered the tax rate. This isn't rhetoric, it can be confirmed at the US Treasury Dept. website.

So why do we want to raise taxes and reduce our tax revenues? How does that help anyone? And speaking of help.. how does it "help" someone to enable them to remain in the impoverished lives they have? Do you think an extra $20 to a welfare family is going to lift them from poverty? It hasn't so far and we've been trying this for a half a century. Why not try something different? You're a progressive, why not progress beyond your same old tried and failed policies? How about something to motivate and empower those at the bottom? Instead of lobbying for a few more crumbs to toss at them, why not encourage them to get off their asses and go to work? How about instead of reinforcing the victim mentality, reinforce the message that anyone can succeed if they put forth the effort?

I'll tell you why... because deep down, you don't want poor people to succeed because they won't need you anymore. You had rather keep them imprisoned in poverty so you can depend on their votes for your political power. Then, you can shake down capitalists so that your elitist political leaders can live like kings while spewing the same fucked-in-the-head nonsense they've spewed for decades.

See these are the posts that really give me pause about you folk. You put so much effort into demonizing democratic policies, that you make no effort in defending republican policies. This is probably because deep down you know the Republican Party is a joke that does nothing to help the middle class or poor.

Christ we both know that in Bush's final months, the economy was in the start of a shitstorm where we were losing 100,000s jobs per month. This Recession of course ended 6 months into Obama's presidency and we have had job growth EVER SINCE. Can Bush say that? Fuck no. We had two recessions under him in total. Obama has presided over the longest stretch of job growth. His stimulus package alone is credited with creating up to 3.3 million private jobs according to the Congressional Budget Office.

Now is the economy under Obama perfecr? No. It has some flaws like the labor participation rate. But, of course, like always that statistic includes retirement, voluntary house spouses, and the disabled.

How can Obama fix the economy when Repubs in office try to obstruct everything he puts forth? Progressive policies work if they are of undermined by GOPers in the legislative branch.

 

[Kosh]

Socialism is a "new idea"?

newer than slavery? which is what you confederate hillfolk want

Says the far left drone that promotes political slavery!

The far left wants the people enslaved to government!

 

[Kosh]

There are a LOT of good reasons. One of the best is that you aren't looking at the whole picture.

Fool’s Gold: California Has The Highest Poverty Rate In The United States

According to the Census Bureau, nearly one-fourth (23.8 percent, up from a 20-year low of 12 percent in 2006,) of California's 38-million people live below the poverty line – with Latinos, now the state's single largest ethnic group, bearing the brunt of such deprivation. According to the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC), at least 6-million households in the state live with incomes below the federal poverty level (about $23,000 for a family of four). Poverty rates are extremely high not only for Latinos, but also African-Americans and those lacking in college diplomas. Reportedly, 5 million Latinos (one-third of their total number) are living in poverty in the state.

When I left Cali in 2005, the state income was so overweighted to soak "the rich" that LITERALLY just 40,000 residents were paying 12% of the total Cali Income tax. Many in the top quintile have fled. Like me for instance.

Another factor is Red states like Tenn are getting huge influxes of Blue state retirees.. Who have fucked up their states so badly, they simply can't afford to retire in them anymore.

I'm not a Republican, but I DO know -- I prefer the lean, efficient, responsible govt in Tenn to the clown circus in the Cali.. You can brag about concentrations of industry and business for a FEW more years, and then the jig is pretty much up.. My small town in Tenn has stolen 4 major companies from Cali since I moved here. And it's so pleasant, some of my neighbors COMMUTE out of state for work, but prefer to live here. We're just fine WITHOUT your concern.

And even tho you have TOO many topics in OP -- the "trickle up" consumer demand stuff simply doesn't work like it use to 20 or 30 years ago. USED to be you give away money to consumers and the factories would rev up, hire folks and create expansion. You do that "trick" now, and the ONLY THING that happens is more Chinese giant freighters arrive in Long Beach with the goods and they go directly to Amazon..

A critical takeaway from your article that you are missing is that Cali's poverty rate isn't based on liberal policies. It's because of a few different factors. One of those being the lucrative Hollywood industry. A mega industry like that will involve minimizing labor costs for the sake of profit. That means lower wages for people. This also causes an increase in the cost of housing. You aren't going to see a drastic change in price within a 10 miles of the Malibu neighborhood in cost of housing. That makes the entire city of LA high in standard of living. That also happens to be where a large percentage of total Cali population.

Despite the income inequality in Cali, the tax rates on the wealthy are higher in comparison to other states.

your not going to get anything besides "we blame the liberals"

And the far left is only going to blame others and not themselves!

It is the far left way!

 

[Kosh]

There are a LOT of good reasons. One of the best is that you aren't looking at the whole picture.

Fool’s Gold: California Has The Highest Poverty Rate In The United States

According to the Census Bureau, nearly one-fourth (23.8 percent, up from a 20-year low of 12 percent in 2006,) of California's 38-million people live below the poverty line – with Latinos, now the state's single largest ethnic group, bearing the brunt of such deprivation. According to the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC), at least 6-million households in the state live with incomes below the federal poverty level (about $23,000 for a family of four). Poverty rates are extremely high not only for Latinos, but also African-Americans and those lacking in college diplomas. Reportedly, 5 million Latinos (one-third of their total number) are living in poverty in the state.

When I left Cali in 2005, the state income was so overweighted to soak "the rich" that LITERALLY just 40,000 residents were paying 12% of the total Cali Income tax. Many in the top quintile have fled. Like me for instance.

Another factor is Red states like Tenn are getting huge influxes of Blue state retirees.. Who have fucked up their states so badly, they simply can't afford to retire in them anymore.

I'm not a Republican, but I DO know -- I prefer the lean, efficient, responsible govt in Tenn to the clown circus in the Cali.. You can brag about concentrations of industry and business for a FEW more years, and then the jig is pretty much up.. My small town in Tenn has stolen 4 major companies from Cali since I moved here. And it's so pleasant, some of my neighbors COMMUTE out of state for work, but prefer to live here. We're just fine WITHOUT your concern.

And even tho you have TOO many topics in OP -- the "trickle up" consumer demand stuff simply doesn't work like it use to 20 or 30 years ago. USED to be you give away money to consumers and the factories would rev up, hire folks and create expansion. You do that "trick" now, and the ONLY THING that happens is more Chinese giant freighters arrive in Long Beach with the goods and they go directly to Amazon..

A critical takeaway from your article that you are missing is that Cali's poverty rate isn't based on liberal policies. It's because of a few different factors. One of those being the lucrative Hollywood industry. A mega industry like that will involve minimizing labor costs for the sake of profit. That means lower wages for people. This also causes an increase in the cost of housing. You aren't going to see a drastic change in price within a 10 miles of the Malibu neighborhood in cost of housing. That makes the entire city of LA high in standard of living. That also happens to be where a large percentage of total Cali population.

Despite the income inequality in Cali, the tax rates on the wealthy are higher in comparison to other states.

Hollywood can't AFFORD to produce films in America. You look at the credits and it reads like a world phone book. So only money is created as "an economy" there anymore. Of course, Cali rising poverty is based on liberal policies. They've CATERED to the illegal immigrant demographic. ENCOURAGED the growth of their own "cheap labor" force. They are worse than China in that regard. Adopting ESL standards for the schools which force other middle/upper class people to leave public schools. Standards that HURT immigrant children trying to RISE in the labor force in their country..

I've seen enough of the leftist folly out there. Middle/Upper people are fleeing. Only a matter of time.

Well since the far left wants the illegal here, why not annex Mexico?