A gun control proposal

[hjmick]

I'll check on gun crimes New York vs Texas when I get home.

What's wrong? Your Arizona vs. New Jersey plan doesn't work in your favor?

 

[Timmy]

I'll check on gun crimes New York vs Texas when I get home.

What's wrong? Your Arizona vs. New Jersey plan doesn't work in your favor?

Az v mass actually . Need to be home . Hate looking for stuff on my phone .

 

[The Rabbi]

Geez , u guys would rather have guns coming out of vending machines .

Reductio ad absurdum fallacy A sure sign of defeat.

 

[Ernie S.]

Geez , u guys would rather have guns coming out of vending machines .

Not at all. I would like you to suggest something that has a shot at being effective. I have no desire to see people shot and killed or to have my rights infringed by a bunch of idiots that think doing something that accomplishes nothing is better than doing nothing at all.
Would you like me to tell you how to cut gun deaths in Chicago by 70% by the end of the year?

 

[Ernie S.]

You won't like my plan.

 

[Timmy]

Ok. Wiki page on gun stats
Gun violence in the United States by state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2010 stats

Gun murders per 100k people

Arizona 3.6
Mass. 1.8

 

[The Rabbi]

Ok. Wiki page on gun stats
Gun violence in the United States by state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2010 stats

Gun murders per 100k people

Arizona 3.6
Mass. 1.8

DC has 16.5. Maryland has 5.1
What point are you trying to make here? Because you've failed.

 

[Timmy]

Texas. 3.2
New York. 2.7

 

[Timmy]

Ok. Wiki page on gun stats
Gun violence in the United States by state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2010 stats

Gun murders per 100k people

Arizona 3.6
Mass. 1.8

DC has 16.5. Maryland has 5.1
What point are you trying to make here? Because you've failed.

DC is a city , not a state . Apples to apples .

 

[The Rabbi]

Texas. 3.2
New York. 2.7

Utah 0.8
New Jersey 2.8

Whatever point you think you're making is wrong.

 

[The Rabbi]

Ok. Wiki page on gun stats
Gun violence in the United States by state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2010 stats

Gun murders per 100k people

Arizona 3.6
Mass. 1.8

DC has 16.5. Maryland has 5.1
What point are you trying to make here? Because you've failed.

DC is a city , not a state . Apples to apples .

What difference does it make? It's per 100k people.

 

[Timmy]

States with the most gun violence .

States With the Most Gun Violence

LA
MISS
ALASKA
WYO
Ok
MT
ARK
Bama
New Mexico
so Carolina

 

[Rustic]

Selective numbers, to go along with the selective outrage.

Hashtag gun control has never worked

 

[Flash]

States with the most gun violence .

States With the Most Gun Violence

LA
MISS
ALASKA
WYO
Ok
MT
ARK
Bama
New Mexico
so Carolina

You are delusional Moon Bat.. None of those states had 50 shooting two weekends in a row and then 18 on the third weekend like in Chicago as we saw recently, which has the toughest gun control laws in the country.

 

[Timmy]

Just proving that the whole "gun control doesn't work" line is false .

Only one with selective numbers is you pro gun freaks . Cherry pick a red state outlier like Utah and compare it to a densely populated state like Jersey .

 

[Timmy]

States with the most gun violence .

States With the Most Gun Violence

LA
MISS
ALASKA
WYO
Ok
MT
ARK
Bama
New Mexico
so Carolina

You are delusional Moon Bat.. None of those states had 50 shooting two weekends in a row and then 18 on the third weekend like in Chicago as we saw recently, which has the toughest gun control laws in the country.

Chicago is a city . Tough gun laws get sabotaged by the loose gun laws around it .

 

[AVG-JOE]

How about criminal liability for deaths resulting from the sale of a weapon where the seller failed to run a standardized background check?

Make the standardized backgrounds free to the sellers and real easy to do. As a tax payer, I'd be willing to pay for that.

Have the buyer pay just like a car buyer pays for the new title.

That would work as well. As long as the process is never privatized and everybody pays the same fee nationwide.

It means that the government, as in We, The Peeps, gets to certify who is and who is not stable enough to own firearms. And if you sell or give uncle Leroy a gun, even though he never quite can pass the process of getting his picture on a golden card giving him permission to own, and he kills auntie Bobbie...

You do time.

It also means that if your gun gets stolen, and you fail to report it, you could have some serious 'splainin' to do Loocy!

Are we actually ready for government enforced personal responsibility?!?
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[AVG-JOE]

Of course it's a loophole! Criminal can't buy a gun from a dealer but he can from a private sale . How is that not a loophole in a law designed to keep guns from criminals .?

Selling a gun to a felon is already against the law.Why would you imagine another law would keep a criminal from breaking the law?

Can the seller be held criminally liable for the injuries caused by a weapon sold without a background check?

If everyone insists that we continue hell-bent on never putting any restrictions on the availability of weapons at the wholesale level, the retail and private sale levels of that market need to step up and take responsibility for safe distribution to the public at large.

The point is to keep guns out of the hands of the whack-jobs.

Nationally standardized background checks and criminal liability after the sale is the only answer that addresses the problem and preserves the current overall availability and choices in weapons.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Of course it's a loophole! Criminal can't buy a gun from a dealer but he can from a private sale . How is that not a loophole in a law designed to keep guns from criminals .?

Selling a gun to a felon is already against the law.Why would you imagine another law would keep a criminal from breaking the law?

Selling a gun to a felon is a crime.
A felon possessing a gun is a crime
Taking a gun into a gun free zone is a crime.
Pointing hte gun at people is a crime
Shooting people is a crime
Killing people is a crime.

Now, how many more laws do we need to prevent criminals from killing people?

Criminals don't shoot up schools and theaters. Whack-jobs do.

Obviously, the cops have their hands full with the "criminals". It's literally two different issues. Let's use the technology that we already have to keep guns out of the hands of the whack-jobs.

 

[Ernie S.]

Just proving that the whole "gun control doesn't work" line is false .

Only one with selective numbers is you pro gun freaks . Cherry pick a red state outlier like Utah and compare it to a densely populated state like Jersey .

Please learn to use the quote function