A Dark Day In U.S. History

[Sallow]

But the major difference was that social programs staggered to blow to everyone not super wealthy.

Care to translate this sentence for everyone on the board??

Mistype. Should be staggered "the" blow.

What exactly were you thinking there, Sunni?

 

[Sallow]

GI Bill is one of the reasons there is a middle class in this country.

 

[Sunni Man]

But the major difference was that social programs staggered to blow to everyone not super wealthy.

Care to translate this sentence for everyone on the board??

Mistype. Should be staggered "the" blow.

What exactly were you thinking there, Sunni?

Hey, you are the one who wrote it, not me.

It's more like; what were you thinking??

 

[Sallow]

Care to translate this sentence for everyone on the board??

Mistype. Should be staggered "the" blow.

What exactly were you thinking there, Sunni?

Hey, you are the one who wrote it, not me.

It's more like; what were you thinking??

It's pretty obvious what I was thinking. That's why I asked you.

You're the one making a big issue out of a mistype..chief.

 

[Dragon]

He means that this time around we have unemployment insurance and a more comprehensive public welfare system. That's the main reason the crash of 2008 and the Lesser Depression haven't been as bad as the crash of 1929 and the Great Depression. These programs have helped people avoid total catastrophe on losing their jobs, and also have put a cushion under the collapse of consumer spending, so that the economic downturn has not been as low.

To clarify something Sallow said earlier, there is always a middle class, but in the pre-Depression economy it was vestigial. it consisted almost entirely of professionals (doctors, lawyers, accountants, etc.) and successful small business owners. In the post-WWII economy the middle class amounted almost to a majority of the population. That happened because many "working-class" jobs paid a middle-class income.

To get there, we encouraged unions, imposed steeply graduated income taxes, and used several other methods to discourage huge personal incomes, prop wages up, and narrow income gaps. This always grated on the owner class, who used the unforeseen and poorly-understood effect of the OPEC oil embargo on the U.S. economy to politically engineer a return of many elements of the pre-Depression economic regime. We've been going backwards ever since 1981.

None of which has anything to do with Woodrow Wilson, of course. As much as the author of PC's cut-and-paste would like to say that without Wilson's evil precedent there would never have been an intrusion on his idealized capitalist utopia and the downtrodden wage-slaves would always have known their places, it ain't so.

 

[jillian]

FDR's policies created a fully functioning middle class, where there was none.

There was a functioning middle class after 1900. It was largely damaged by the Great Depression and the that was not ended by FDR unless you stipulate that FDR started WW2.

No there wasn't. The United States resembled an emerging third world country around that time..with a huge gulf between rich and poor. The Great Depression destroyed the tenuous grasp most people had on just existing. We had the same sort of calamity happen as a result of Bush. But the major difference was that social programs staggered to blow to everyone not super wealthy.

don't confuse him with facts

 

[Unkotare]

Executive Order 9066

I see this was ignored by Swallow.

 

[mudwhistle]

FDR's policies created a fully functioning middle class, where there was none.

There was a functioning middle class after 1900. It was largely damaged by the Great Depression and the that was not ended by FDR unless you stipulate that FDR started WW2.

No there wasn't. The United States resembled an emerging third world country around that time..with a huge gulf between rich and poor. The Great Depression destroyed the tenuous grasp most people had on just existing. We had the same sort of calamity happen as a result of Bush. But the major difference was that social programs staggered to blow to everyone not super wealthy.

Same thing happened under Bush??

Hardship today is going without the latest Air Jordans.

 

[The Infidel]

There was a functioning middle class after 1900. It was largely damaged by the Great Depression and the that was not ended by FDR unless you stipulate that FDR started WW2.

No there wasn't. The United States resembled an emerging third world country around that time..with a huge gulf between rich and poor. The Great Depression destroyed the tenuous grasp most people had on just existing. We had the same sort of calamity happen as a result of Bush. But the major difference was that social programs staggered to blow to everyone not super wealthy.

Same thing happened under Bush??

Hardship today is going without the latest Air Jordans.

And a 'certain' group wants Nike to reduce the price in order to stop the violence in their community ....

http://www.click2houston.com/news/M...raze/-/1735978/7147066/-/mne2guz/-/index.html

Go figure.

I am still waiting for GM to lower the price of their Corvettes..... I WANT ONE TOO!

 

[rightwinger]

Happy Birthday Woodrow.....one of our first modern presidents

The fact that Conservatives hate him so much shows that he did something right


Oh yea.......He won a Nobel Peace Prize and Conservatives say it wasn't deserved

Where have I heard that one before?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

1. Today, December 28, is the anniversary of the birth of Woodrow Wilson, (1856).

Woodrow Wilson born in Staunton, Va. He was the 28th President (1913- 1921). Like Lincoln, Wilson was elected with less than a majority of the popular vote. He was the most highly educated man ever to become president, having received more than a dozen college degrees, the first President to study socialism.

2. He went before Congress to ask that the nation’s banking and currency laws be controlled by the government. The result was the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. Wilson was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1920 for his support of the League of Nations. During Wilson’s presidency, three amendments to the Constitution were proclaimed: 17th, 18th, and 19th. Wilson died 2/3/1924

3. This, the first progressive President, began an assault on the Constitution that continues unabated to this day.
Wilson wrote in “The State,” 1889, that "Government does now whatever experience permits or the times demand." His writings attack the Constitution, and the ideas of natural and individual rights. Along with Frank J. Goodnow, they pioneered the concept of the ‘administrative state,’ which separated the administration of government from the limitations of constitutional government. American progressivism: a reader - Ronald J. Pestritto, William J. Atto - Google Books

He instituted segregation in the federal government, and removed blacks from civil service positions.

a. And, this echo in Wilson: “No doubt a lot of nonsense has been talked about the inalienable rights of the individual, and a great deal that was mere vague sentiment and pleasing speculation has been put forward as fundamental principle.” Woodrow Wilson: ‘Men are as clay in the hands of a consummate leader.

4. A new kind of government was established in the in the United States under the 20th century’s first fascist dictator: Woodrow Wilson. During WW I, under the Progressive Woodrow Wilson, American was a fascist nation.

a. Had the world’s first modern propaganda ministry
b. Political prisoners by the thousands were harassed, beaten, spied upon and thrown in jail for simply expressing private opinions.
c. The national leader accused foreigners and immigrants of injecting treasonous ‘poison’ into the American bloodstream
d. Newspapers and magazines were closed for criticizing the government
e. Almost 100,000 government propaganda agents were sent out to whip up support for the regime and the war
f. College professors imposed loyalty oaths on their colleagues
g. Nearly a quarter million ‘goons’ were given legal authority to beat and intimidate ‘slackers’ and dissenters
h. Leading artists and writers dedicated their work to proselytizing for the government.
http://www.ncpa.org/pdfs/Classical_Liberalism_vs_Modern_Liberal_Conservatism.pdf p. 9


5. Democrats (Progressives) were thoroughly rejected by the voters in the election of 1920:
“The United States presidential election of 1920 was dominated by the aftermath of World War I and the hostile reaction to Woodrow Wilson, the Democratic president. Harding's victory remains the largest popular-vote percentage margin (60.3% to 34.1%) in Presidential elections after the so-called "Era of Good Feelings" ended with the victory of James Monroe in the election of 1820. ” United States presidential election, 1920 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

“In the 1920 election, he and his running-mate, Calvin Coolidge, defeated Democrat and fellow Ohioan James M. Cox, in what was then the largest presidential popular vote landslide in American history since the popular vote tally began to be recorded in 1824: 60.36% to 34.19%.”Warren G. Harding - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wilson was a Progressive and a miserable Failure and the two always seem to to together

 

[rightwinger]

Woodrow Wilson is universally acknowledged as one of our ten greatest Presidents. With the exception of rightwing revisionists who actually honor presidential failures like Harding, Coolege and Hoover.......Wilson is acknowledged as a truly great President

 

[CrusaderFrank]

FDR's policies created a fully functioning middle class, where there was none.

LOL

Yeah 20% average unemployment from the start of his Failed Presidency until Hitler conquered France is how you have a "fully functioning middle class"

You're mental

 

[Samson]

Woodrow Wilson is universally acknowledged as one of our ten greatest Presidents. With the exception of rightwing revisionists who actually honor presidential failures like Harding, Coolege and Hoover.......Wilson is acknowledged as a truly great President

Is that him on the Dime?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Woodrow Wilson is universally acknowledged as one of our ten greatest Presidents. With the exception of rightwing revisionists who actually honor presidential failures like Harding, Coolege and Hoover.......Wilson is acknowledged as a truly great President

LOL

Sure he is.

And FDR was "Great"

And McCarthy drummed up a "Red Scare"

LOL

All the Progressive lies fall apart without their media monopoly

 

[rightwinger]

Woodrow Wilson is universally acknowledged as one of our ten greatest Presidents. With the exception of rightwing revisionists who actually honor presidential failures like Harding, Coolege and Hoover.......Wilson is acknowledged as a truly great President

Is that him on the Dime?

No...He is on the $100,000 bill

 

[rightwinger]

 

[Unkotare]

Happy Birthday Woodrow.....one of our first modern presidents

The fact that Conservatives hate him so much shows that he did something right


Oh yea.......He won a Nobel Peace Prize and Conservatives say it wasn't deserved

Where have I heard that one before?

You probably heard it in regards to someone who was given a Nobel Peace Prize they in no way deserved.

 

[rightwinger]

Happy Birthday Woodrow.....one of our first modern presidents

The fact that Conservatives hate him so much shows that he did something right


Oh yea.......He won a Nobel Peace Prize and Conservatives say it wasn't deserved

Where have I heard that one before?

You probably heard it in regards to someone who was given a Nobel Peace Prize they in no way deserved.

Let's see.....

Woodrow Wilson won the Nobel Peace Prize and Conservatives say he didn't deserve it
Martin Luther King won the Nobel Peace Prize and Conservatives say he didn't deserve it
Jimmy Carter won the Nobel Peace Prize and Conservatives said he didn't deserve it
Al Gore won the Nobel Peace Prize and Conservatives said he didn't deserve it
Barack Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize and Conservatives said he didn't deserve it

Do I detect a trend?

 

[Unkotare]

Woodrow Wilson is universally acknowledged as one of our ten greatest Presidents. With the exception of rightwing revisionists who actually honor presidential failures like Harding, Coolege and Hoover.......Wilson is acknowledged as a truly great President

"universally acknowledged"? Do you even know what that means?


Harding won with 60% of the popular vote, known for bipartisanship, reduced taxes from their wartime high (and in fact reduced income taxes for ALL Americans), and stimulated economic growth that reversed the negative trend brought on by Wilson. He also worked to reverse the despicable institutionalized racism fostered by Wilson. He called for a federal anti-lynching law, and proposed an interracial commission to foster better relations between races. In a complete turnaround from Wilson's segregation, Harding encouraged his cabinet members to appoint qualified blacks to their departments, and spoke out forcefully against the (democrat) KKK.

All in just two and a half years.