A Call to Conservatives

A 4% profit margin, and a 6% increase in taxes results in bankruptcy. A call for millions of dollars of regulation on a company making $900K/year results in bankruptcy.

Are you seriously pretending that this doesn't happen?


Great bumper sticker, but it's just not true. A 6% increase for companies like Boeing or GE who went several years without paying any federal income taxes probably wouldn't outweigh their billions in profit.

A specific scenario was painted .... your comment has no relevancy, other than to apparently relieve your gastric distress.

"Deflection and personal attacks ... the last refuge of the terminally stupid."

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Don't get ahead of yourself Te.....We are sure he is stupid, but we don't know if it is terminal yet. It's not looking good for him though.

You two are like dogs --- going round and round, smelling each other's ass, and wondering why everything seems so shitty.

As opposed to you chasing your own tail and going nowhere?
 
If you liberals/lefties want Socialism/communism move

and I know what "conservatives" will tell you and your suggestion. stick it and flip off
 
If you liberals/lefties want Socialism/communism move

and I know what "conservatives" will tell you and your suggestion. stick it and flip off


Who will then pay for your food stamps , Medicaid and government cheese and trailer park rent?
 
John Hospers, the author of the OP article, was the Libertarian Party's first presidential candidate in 1972; and like his presidential 'campaign,' his advocacy of libertarian dogma is a failure.

The article reflects the same poor reasoning, logical fallacies, and sophomoric reactionaryism common to libertarian philosophy,
 
A 4% profit margin, and a 6% increase in taxes results in bankruptcy. A call for millions of dollars of regulation on a company making $900K/year results in bankruptcy.

Are you seriously pretending that this doesn't happen?[/QUOTE]

We do not want to overly tax businesses but there are companies making billions of dollars every year so no I am not worried about them going bankrupt even if we tax them an extra billion every year, really America would be a better place if all of the big businesses would fail and the younger generation had to take over and rebuild everything from scratch, it would be difficult undoubtedly but this blind defense of massive corporations by the older generation is going to ruin the country, a company is not a part of we the people
 
A 4% profit margin, and a 6% increase in taxes results in bankruptcy. A call for millions of dollars of regulation on a company making $900K/year results in bankruptcy.

Are you seriously pretending that this doesn't happen?

We do not want to overly tax businesses but there are companies making billions of dollars every year so no I am not worried about them going bankrupt even if we tax them an extra billion every year, really America would be a better place if all of the big businesses would fail and the younger generation had to take over and rebuild everything from scratch, it would be difficult undoubtedly but this blind defense of massive corporations by the older generation is going to ruin the country, a company is not a part of we the people
You're making the same ol' liberal mistake .... companies don't make billions of dollars. PEOPLE make billions of dollars. PEOPLE are the stock owners that get billions of dollars.

Your grandmother's retirement depends on the money it gets from her retirement plan (which is invested in those companies). Your 401(k) is invested in those companies. Your insurance company is invested in those companies. Your school district is invested in those dollars. Your Christmas Club is invested in those companies.

It's easy to take shots at big companies, because, after all, who would have sympathy for a non-human entity? But, the reality is that those are people - not companies. As soon as you figure that out, you'll be able to discuss economics adequately.
 
A 4% profit margin, and a 6% increase in taxes results in bankruptcy. A call for millions of dollars of regulation on a company making $900K/year results in bankruptcy.

Are you seriously pretending that this doesn't happen?

We do not want to overly tax businesses but there are companies making billions of dollars every year so no I am not worried about them going bankrupt even if we tax them an extra billion every year, really America would be a better place if all of the big businesses would fail and the younger generation had to take over and rebuild everything from scratch, it would be difficult undoubtedly but this blind defense of massive corporations by the older generation is going to ruin the country, a company is not a part of we the people
You're making the same ol' liberal mistake .... companies don't make billions of dollars. PEOPLE make billions of dollars. PEOPLE are the stock owners that get billions of dollars.

Your grandmother's retirement depends on the money it gets from her retirement plan (which is invested in those companies). Your 401(k) is invested in those companies. Your insurance company is invested in those companies. Your school district is invested in those dollars. Your Christmas Club is invested in those companies.

It's easy to take shots at big companies, because, after all, who would have sympathy for a non-human entity? But, the reality is that those are people - not companies. As soon as you figure that out, you'll be able to discuss economics adequately.


Walmart makes 91 million per day every day. Most of their employees make less than $68.00 per day that they work. How much of that 91 million is distributed to your grandmother's retirement fund?
 
A 4% profit margin, and a 6% increase in taxes results in bankruptcy. A call for millions of dollars of regulation on a company making $900K/year results in bankruptcy.

Are you seriously pretending that this doesn't happen?

We do not want to overly tax businesses but there are companies making billions of dollars every year so no I am not worried about them going bankrupt even if we tax them an extra billion every year, really America would be a better place if all of the big businesses would fail and the younger generation had to take over and rebuild everything from scratch, it would be difficult undoubtedly but this blind defense of massive corporations by the older generation is going to ruin the country, a company is not a part of we the people
You're making the same ol' liberal mistake .... companies don't make billions of dollars. PEOPLE make billions of dollars. PEOPLE are the stock owners that get billions of dollars.

Your grandmother's retirement depends on the money it gets from her retirement plan (which is invested in those companies). Your 401(k) is invested in those companies. Your insurance company is invested in those companies. Your school district is invested in those dollars. Your Christmas Club is invested in those companies.

It's easy to take shots at big companies, because, after all, who would have sympathy for a non-human entity? But, the reality is that those are people - not companies. As soon as you figure that out, you'll be able to discuss economics adequately.


Walmart makes 91 million per day every day. Most of their employees make less than $68.00 per day that they work. How much of that 91 million is distributed to your grandmother's retirement fund?

There is a significant difference between income and profit ... making $91 million per day doesn't mean there is $91 million to spend. In addition, 2.2 million people work for Walmart (how much of the $91 million do they get??)

But, the short answer to your question is 58% of Walmart's PROFIT goes to your grandmother's retirement plan. The Walton family own 42% of the stock.
 
To all conservatives:

I recommend that you read: http://johnhospers.com/articles/justicevssocialjustice.pdf , a discussion about the difference between justice and social justice.

To all liberals:

Do NOT read the referenced article. It has been known to cause heart attacks, enlightenment, and conversions.
this guy is really long winded.

was there some part you wanted me to read? cuz I'm not going to take that much time to discus the nonsense of 'social justice'
 
A 4% profit margin, and a 6% increase in taxes results in bankruptcy. A call for millions of dollars of regulation on a company making $900K/year results in bankruptcy.

Are you seriously pretending that this doesn't happen?

We do not want to overly tax businesses but there are companies making billions of dollars every year so no I am not worried about them going bankrupt even if we tax them an extra billion every year, really America would be a better place if all of the big businesses would fail and the younger generation had to take over and rebuild everything from scratch, it would be difficult undoubtedly but this blind defense of massive corporations by the older generation is going to ruin the country, a company is not a part of we the people
You're making the same ol' liberal mistake .... companies don't make billions of dollars. PEOPLE make billions of dollars. PEOPLE are the stock owners that get billions of dollars.

Your grandmother's retirement depends on the money it gets from her retirement plan (which is invested in those companies). Your 401(k) is invested in those companies. Your insurance company is invested in those companies. Your school district is invested in those dollars. Your Christmas Club is invested in those companies.

It's easy to take shots at big companies, because, after all, who would have sympathy for a non-human entity? But, the reality is that those are people - not companies. As soon as you figure that out, you'll be able to discuss economics adequately.


Walmart makes 91 million per day every day. Most of their employees make less than $68.00 per day that they work. How much of that 91 million is distributed to your grandmother's retirement fund?

There is a significant difference between income and profit ... making $91 million per day doesn't mean there is $91 million to spend. In addition, 2.2 million people work for Walmart (how much of the $91 million do they get??)

But, the short answer to your question is 58% of Walmart's PROFIT goes to your grandmother's retirement plan. The Walton family own 42% of the stock.
I would LOVE 42% of 129 Billion dollars which is what Walmart's profits were last year, play again you poor indoctrinated soul.
 
Tell us what's in it, "spare change" and that goes for everyone. Do some mental gymnastics for a change and summarize the hit and run article you expect us to read.
 
A 4% profit margin, and a 6% increase in taxes results in bankruptcy. A call for millions of dollars of regulation on a company making $900K/year results in bankruptcy.

Are you seriously pretending that this doesn't happen?

We do not want to overly tax businesses but there are companies making billions of dollars every year so no I am not worried about them going bankrupt even if we tax them an extra billion every year, really America would be a better place if all of the big businesses would fail and the younger generation had to take over and rebuild everything from scratch, it would be difficult undoubtedly but this blind defense of massive corporations by the older generation is going to ruin the country, a company is not a part of we the people
You're making the same ol' liberal mistake .... companies don't make billions of dollars. PEOPLE make billions of dollars. PEOPLE are the stock owners that get billions of dollars.

Your grandmother's retirement depends on the money it gets from her retirement plan (which is invested in those companies). Your 401(k) is invested in those companies. Your insurance company is invested in those companies. Your school district is invested in those dollars. Your Christmas Club is invested in those companies.

It's easy to take shots at big companies, because, after all, who would have sympathy for a non-human entity? But, the reality is that those are people - not companies. As soon as you figure that out, you'll be able to discuss economics adequately.


Walmart makes 91 million per day every day. Most of their employees make less than $68.00 per day that they work. How much of that 91 million is distributed to your grandmother's retirement fund?

There is a significant difference between income and profit ... making $91 million per day doesn't mean there is $91 million to spend. In addition, 2.2 million people work for Walmart (how much of the $91 million do they get??)

But, the short answer to your question is 58% of Walmart's PROFIT goes to your grandmother's retirement plan. The Walton family own 42% of the stock.
I would LOVE 42% of 129 Billion dollars which is what Walmart's profits were last year, play again you poor indoctrinated soul.

You probably want the 58% of 129 billion dollars your grandma gets, too, huh?

Got any idea just how stupid your rant about the rich really sounds??? According to the figures provided, Walmart is growing $33.2 BILLION a year (91 million x 365). Out of that, they get $129 billion in profit??

So, they get more profit than they do income? Man, you guys will buy anything!!! Your slavish devotion to the party line exceeds all credibility. You guys just swallow this BS without even tasting it.

Amazing - sad, but amazing.
 
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Tell us what's in it, "spare change" and that goes for everyone. Do some mental gymnastics for a change and summarize the hit and run article you expect us to read.

I got a better idea ... read it yourself. If you can't, send me $14.98 and I will forward the comic book version.
 
A 4% profit margin, and a 6% increase in taxes results in bankruptcy. A call for millions of dollars of regulation on a company making $900K/year results in bankruptcy.

Are you seriously pretending that this doesn't happen?

We do not want to overly tax businesses but there are companies making billions of dollars every year so no I am not worried about them going bankrupt even if we tax them an extra billion every year, really America would be a better place if all of the big businesses would fail and the younger generation had to take over and rebuild everything from scratch, it would be difficult undoubtedly but this blind defense of massive corporations by the older generation is going to ruin the country, a company is not a part of we the people
You're making the same ol' liberal mistake .... companies don't make billions of dollars. PEOPLE make billions of dollars. PEOPLE are the stock owners that get billions of dollars.

Your grandmother's retirement depends on the money it gets from her retirement plan (which is invested in those companies). Your 401(k) is invested in those companies. Your insurance company is invested in those companies. Your school district is invested in those dollars. Your Christmas Club is invested in those companies.

It's easy to take shots at big companies, because, after all, who would have sympathy for a non-human entity? But, the reality is that those are people - not companies. As soon as you figure that out, you'll be able to discuss economics adequately.


Walmart makes 91 million per day every day. Most of their employees make less than $68.00 per day that they work. How much of that 91 million is distributed to your grandmother's retirement fund?

There is a significant difference between income and profit ... making $91 million per day doesn't mean there is $91 million to spend. In addition, 2.2 million people work for Walmart (how much of the $91 million do they get??)

But, the short answer to your question is 58% of Walmart's PROFIT goes to your grandmother's retirement plan. The Walton family own 42% of the stock.
I would LOVE 42% of 129 Billion dollars which is what Walmart's profits were last year, play again you poor indoctrinated soul.

You probably want the 58% of 129 billion dollars your grandma gets, too, huh?

Got any idea just how stupid your rant about the rich really sounds??? According to the figures provided, Walmart is growing $33.2 BILLION a year (91 million x 365). Out of that, they get $129 billion in profit??

So, they get more profit than they do income? Man, you guys will buy anything!!! Your slavish devotion to the party line exceeds all credibility. You guys just swallow this BS without even tasting it.

Amazing - sad, but amazing.
I do not want any of the money for myself, I want our government to use it to create better infrastructure and fund research into medicine, sustainable energy, sustainable agriculture, etc.
Those are the figures that your source provided, if you do a quick search for walmarts reported profit for the 2014 fiscal year you come up with the 129 billion, you do realize that by growth they mean that they earned 33.2 billion dollars MORE than they did the previous fiscal year. But even if that one individual company only made a measly *chuckles* 33.2 billion dollars, that still gives the Walton Family around 15 billion dollars a year, I don't think my family could spend that kind of money if we were trying.
I have no party line, I want to see the democrats burn just as badly as the republicans, neither of them are doing anything to try and fix our country's problems.
 
You're making the same ol' liberal mistake .... companies don't make billions of dollars. PEOPLE make billions of dollars. PEOPLE are the stock owners that get billions of dollars.

Your grandmother's retirement depends on the money it gets from her retirement plan (which is invested in those companies). Your 401(k) is invested in those companies. Your insurance company is invested in those companies. Your school district is invested in those dollars. Your Christmas Club is invested in those companies.

It's easy to take shots at big companies, because, after all, who would have sympathy for a non-human entity? But, the reality is that those are people - not companies. As soon as you figure that out, you'll be able to discuss economics adequately.


Walmart makes 91 million per day every day. Most of their employees make less than $68.00 per day that they work. How much of that 91 million is distributed to your grandmother's retirement fund?

There is a significant difference between income and profit ... making $91 million per day doesn't mean there is $91 million to spend. In addition, 2.2 million people work for Walmart (how much of the $91 million do they get??)

But, the short answer to your question is 58% of Walmart's PROFIT goes to your grandmother's retirement plan. The Walton family own 42% of the stock.
I would LOVE 42% of 129 Billion dollars which is what Walmart's profits were last year, play again you poor indoctrinated soul.

You probably want the 58% of 129 billion dollars your grandma gets, too, huh?

Got any idea just how stupid your rant about the rich really sounds??? According to the figures provided, Walmart is growing $33.2 BILLION a year (91 million x 365). Out of that, they get $129 billion in profit??

So, they get more profit than they do income? Man, you guys will buy anything!!! Your slavish devotion to the party line exceeds all credibility. You guys just swallow this BS without even tasting it.

Amazing - sad, but amazing.
I do not want any of the money for myself, I want our government to use it to create better infrastructure and fund research into medicine, sustainable energy, sustainable agriculture, etc.
Those are the figures that your source provided, if you do a quick search for walmarts reported profit for the 2014 fiscal year you come up with the 129 billion, you do realize that by growth they mean that they earned 33.2 billion dollars MORE than they did the previous fiscal year. But even if that one individual company only made a measly *chuckles* 33.2 billion dollars, that still gives the Walton Family around 15 billion dollars a year, I don't think my family could spend that kind of money if we were trying.
I have no party line, I want to see the democrats burn just as badly as the republicans, neither of them are doing anything to try and fix our country's problems.

The only real distinction is that the GOP are campaigning on ways to make the problems much worse than they currently are.
 
You're making the same ol' liberal mistake .... companies don't make billions of dollars. PEOPLE make billions of dollars. PEOPLE are the stock owners that get billions of dollars.

Your grandmother's retirement depends on the money it gets from her retirement plan (which is invested in those companies). Your 401(k) is invested in those companies. Your insurance company is invested in those companies. Your school district is invested in those dollars. Your Christmas Club is invested in those companies.

It's easy to take shots at big companies, because, after all, who would have sympathy for a non-human entity? But, the reality is that those are people - not companies. As soon as you figure that out, you'll be able to discuss economics adequately.


Walmart makes 91 million per day every day. Most of their employees make less than $68.00 per day that they work. How much of that 91 million is distributed to your grandmother's retirement fund?

There is a significant difference between income and profit ... making $91 million per day doesn't mean there is $91 million to spend. In addition, 2.2 million people work for Walmart (how much of the $91 million do they get??)

But, the short answer to your question is 58% of Walmart's PROFIT goes to your grandmother's retirement plan. The Walton family own 42% of the stock.
I would LOVE 42% of 129 Billion dollars which is what Walmart's profits were last year, play again you poor indoctrinated soul.

You probably want the 58% of 129 billion dollars your grandma gets, too, huh?

Got any idea just how stupid your rant about the rich really sounds??? According to the figures provided, Walmart is growing $33.2 BILLION a year (91 million x 365). Out of that, they get $129 billion in profit??

So, they get more profit than they do income? Man, you guys will buy anything!!! Your slavish devotion to the party line exceeds all credibility. You guys just swallow this BS without even tasting it.

Amazing - sad, but amazing.
I do not want any of the money for myself, I want our government to use it to create better infrastructure and fund research into medicine, sustainable energy, sustainable agriculture, etc.
Those are the figures that your source provided, if you do a quick search for walmarts reported profit for the 2014 fiscal year you come up with the 129 billion, you do realize that by growth they mean that they earned 33.2 billion dollars MORE than they did the previous fiscal year. But even if that one individual company only made a measly *chuckles* 33.2 billion dollars, that still gives the Walton Family around 15 billion dollars a year, I don't think my family could spend that kind of money if we were trying.
I have no party line, I want to see the democrats burn just as badly as the republicans, neither of them are doing anything to try and fix our country's problems.

Once again ... if they did 129 billion dollars in business, that does not equate to 15 billion dollars in profit. (It wasn't my source - it was another poster)

You need to work on your math ---- or your business acumen.
 
Walmart makes 91 million per day every day. Most of their employees make less than $68.00 per day that they work. How much of that 91 million is distributed to your grandmother's retirement fund?

There is a significant difference between income and profit ... making $91 million per day doesn't mean there is $91 million to spend. In addition, 2.2 million people work for Walmart (how much of the $91 million do they get??)

But, the short answer to your question is 58% of Walmart's PROFIT goes to your grandmother's retirement plan. The Walton family own 42% of the stock.
I would LOVE 42% of 129 Billion dollars which is what Walmart's profits were last year, play again you poor indoctrinated soul.

You probably want the 58% of 129 billion dollars your grandma gets, too, huh?

Got any idea just how stupid your rant about the rich really sounds??? According to the figures provided, Walmart is growing $33.2 BILLION a year (91 million x 365). Out of that, they get $129 billion in profit??

So, they get more profit than they do income? Man, you guys will buy anything!!! Your slavish devotion to the party line exceeds all credibility. You guys just swallow this BS without even tasting it.

Amazing - sad, but amazing.
I do not want any of the money for myself, I want our government to use it to create better infrastructure and fund research into medicine, sustainable energy, sustainable agriculture, etc.
Those are the figures that your source provided, if you do a quick search for walmarts reported profit for the 2014 fiscal year you come up with the 129 billion, you do realize that by growth they mean that they earned 33.2 billion dollars MORE than they did the previous fiscal year. But even if that one individual company only made a measly *chuckles* 33.2 billion dollars, that still gives the Walton Family around 15 billion dollars a year, I don't think my family could spend that kind of money if we were trying.
I have no party line, I want to see the democrats burn just as badly as the republicans, neither of them are doing anything to try and fix our country's problems.

Once again ... if they did 129 billion dollars in business, that does not equate to 15 billion dollars in profit. (It wasn't my source - it was another poster)

You need to work on your math ---- or your business acumen.
The 129 billion dollar figure was their own reported PROFITS from the 2014 fiscal year, the 15 billion dollars I ball parked off of your 33.2 billion dollar figure that you got from the article you posted.
 
You need to work on your math ---- or your business acumen.

Ironic coming from someone who believes that you can add percentages.

Once again, stupidity reigns supreme in your household. Just when was the last time you had a cogent remark??

So now you deny your own ignorance or are you just incapable of recalling your own idiotic posts from a week ago?

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Yet another great job in destroying your own credibility!
 

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