94 Years of Serfdom

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    94 Years of Serfdom by Paul Craig Roberts
     
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    Yeah it must have been nice before Americans had to pay income taxes.

    You know back in the first 150 years of our nation?

    Back when we actually ran our entire goverment on a CONSUMER SALES TAX?

    Back when the entire government was run on the revenues from TARIFFS on IMPORTS?

    Of course now if anyone even suggests such a solution, that person is told that FREE TRADE will solve all problems.

    I continue to find it odd that none of our libertarians friends, or Neo cons friends, or Republican friends or Democratic friends every quite get this connection between not having any import tariffs and having to have income taxes.

    Odd that so few of us can understand the connection between imports and the declining middle class, too.
     
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    America is not tariff free.

    And a constitutionally limited federal government would not require tariffs or an income tax to fund it.
     
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    Remember the good old days when we used to make stuff? Like, bicycles? And concrete? And clothing?

    Wow. Those days were awesome.
     
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    Let's also note that back in the day we had a very small government, so they could run it on little revenue. The people, in their infinite wisdom, have decided a Nanny State is better. Well, a Nanny State with a large military-industrial complex is expensive.
     
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    Who doesn't need a nanny with thermonuclear weapons?
     
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    80% nanny 20% military. Without the nanny part the military could be done. Remove the military and the nanny will still bankrupt you eventually.
     
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    Paul Craig Roberts must not know Ha-Joon Chang. That's a pity.
     
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    Jeremy Bentham has obviously never given any serious considertion as to what might make the majority happy or he'd discard that statement as being unworkable idiocy.
     
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    Care to elaborate? Don't forget to incorporate every criterion of his algorithm of felicific calculus (primarily intensity), lest you make some crude majoritarian fallacy! :)
     

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