31 Harvard Orgs including college's Amnesty International affiliate blame Israel for Hamas' brutal terror attack which has killed more than 700

[The Sage of Main Street]

Thank you...
I can't think of a place that is a more perfect reverse moral compass than Harvard. I feel very comfortable making any choice that is diametrically opposed to theirs.

Outlaw the Privileges of Richkids and Harvard Will Become Pro-American

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Unfortunately Islam must be periodically reduced in numbers. When they get to be too many they start killing. Jihad is their reason for being. Golda Mier once said there will be peace when Islam loves their children more than they hate Jews. That day can never come, even if there were no Jews. Jihad is the path to paradise. What parent wouldn't want paradise for their child?

 

[candycorn]

THIRTY-ONE Harvard organizations including college's Amnesty International affiliate blame Israel for Hamas' brutal terror attack which has killed more than 700 people: 'Something is deeply, deeply wrong in academia'​

31 Harvard organizations blame Israel for Hamas' brutal terror attack

A group of 31 Harvard organizations, including the Ivy League institution's affiliate of Amnesty International, has placed the blame on Israel for Hamas' attack that has killed at least 700 Israelis.

www.dailymail.co.uk

9 Oct 2023 ~~ By Stephen M. Lepore

• The groups have placed the blame on Israel for Hamas' brutal, surprise attack that has killed at least 700 Israelis
• They claim that Saturday's events 'did not happen in a vacuum' and claimed that the Israeli government has forced Palestinians to live in 'an open-air prison'
• It comes just a day after a professor was forced to apologize for implying the Hamas attack on Israel was an attempt to distract from 'Netanyahu's corruption'
• Israel Palestine war LIVE: Jewish state prepares massive ground offensive

A group of 31 Harvard organizations, including the Ivy League institution's affiliate of Amnesty International, has placed the blame on Israel for Hamas' brutal, surprise attack that has killed at least 700 Israelis.
The organizations released a letter to the public as a 'Joint Statement by Harvard Palestine Solidarity Groups on the Situation in Palestine' on Sunday to condemn Israel in the wake of the violence.
They claim that Hamas' attacks, which are still ongoing, 'did not happen in a vacuum' and the Israeli government has forced Palestinians to live in 'an open-air prison for over two decades.'
'We, the undersigned student organizations, hold the Israeli regime entirely responsible for all unfolding violence,' the groups wrote.
It's another moment of contention for the school just a day after a professor was forced to apologize for implying the Hamas attack on Israel was an attempt to distract from Benjamin Netanyahu's 'own corruption.'

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Commentary:
The American and British education system is affected by a deadly ideological virus destroying the heart of commonsense, and logic, poisoning the students' minds with negative thinking. This is what hatred thrives on. The education system needs to clear out these ideological entities.
Keep in mind, this attitude is not just Harvard, but, literally EVERY elite US school.
This attitude does not end for these ‘students’ when they get their sheepskin, instead it follows them for life.
These are the same people that fill top government jobs in DC.
It’s AMAZING that Israel gets any funding, given the mindset of people in DC.
Anyone who can take the side of such immoral monsters like Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran is themselves an immoral monster.
That goes the same for those who are Ideologically bent toward Socialist Marxism ala Stalin and Mao.

I think they are wrong as wrong can be for that assessment.

 

[Doc7505]

How Did JEWS Go From Victims To Oppressors? UNIVERSITIES​

How Did Jews Go from Victims to Oppressors? Universities

I know I have shared previously the observations from the late political scientist Aaron Wildavsky from back in 1990 about the early signs of anti-Semitism starting to go mainstream on college camp…

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11 Oct 2023 ~~ By Steven Hayward

I know I have shared previously the observations from the late political scientist Aaron Wildavsky from back in 1990 about the early signs of anti-Semitism starting to go mainstream on college campuses, and his foreboding for the future. It is worth revisiting his diagnosis just now, as anti-Semitism, disguised as “decolonial studies,” has settled in as a major malignant force on universities from coast-to-coast, such that university leaders who were so quick to issue forceful statements about George Floyd, police violence, January 6, the Ukraine War, etc, etc, are suddenly tongue-tied at the spectacle of Nazi-level evil, issuing ambiguous statements at best, fearful of offending the anti-Semites on their faculties and among their student bodies.
Here’s how Wildavsky described what he was seeing in the late 1980s:

Sometime in the mid-1960s blacks replaced Jews as the nation’s number one oppressed minority and—second—that, toward the end of that decade, white radicals succeeded in having Jews removed from the parlance of left critics of society as “minority,” despite the fact that they constituted no more than 3 percent of the population and were still undoubtedly subject to minor forms of discrimination in banking, business, social life, politics, and elsewhere. It took Christians 1,000 years to go from oppressed minority to inquisitorial majority; those clever Jews seem to have done it practically overnight. Let us investigate this strange case further.​

~Snip~

Really, it was a case of mistaken identity: Jews were all of a sudden taken for imperialists. Actually, it was more like guilt by association. Jews, you see, were identified with Israel, which was defeating Arabs, who resorted to guerrilla warfare, however inefficacious, which somehow gave them membership in the Third World, so that Israel, ipso facto, became an imperialist oppressor, and domestic Jews ceased being a minority. Acta est fabula.​

And so we have the pathetic spectacle of Lawrence Summers, who is sometimes a voice of sense among Democrats (warning Biden in the spring of 2021, for instance, that Biden’s spending plans would spark inflation):​

I know I have shared previously the observations from the late political scientist Aaron Wildavsky from back in 1990 about the early signs of anti-Semitism starting to go mainstream on college campuses, and his foreboding for the future. It is worth revisiting his diagnosis just now, as anti-Semitism, disguised as “decolonial studies,” has settled in as a major malignant force on universities from coast-to-coast, such that university leaders who were so quick to issue forceful statements about George Floyd, police violence, January 6, the Ukraine War, etc, etc, are suddenly tongue-tied at the spectacle of Nazi-level evil, issuing ambiguous statements at best, fearful of offending the anti-Semites on their faculties and among their student bodies.
Here’s how Wildavsky described what he was seeing in the late 1980s:

Sometime in the mid-1960s blacks replaced Jews as the nation’s number one oppressed minority and—second—that, toward the end of that decade, white radicals succeeded in having Jews removed from the parlance of left critics of society as “minority,” despite the fact that they constituted no more than 3 percent of the population and were still undoubtedly subject to minor forms of discrimination in banking, business, social life, politics, and elsewhere. It took Christians 1,000 years to go from oppressed minority to inquisitorial majority; those clever Jews seem to have done it practically overnight. Let us investigate this strange case further. ​

During the 1920s and 1930s, Jews—not entirely without reason—were recognized as one of the nation’s oppressed minorities. Quotas aimed to keep them out of college, discrimination out of work, and voter prejudice out of public life. The 1950s, by contrast, was the golden era of American Jewry, which still enjoyed its leading minority status even though it had become, by and large, affluent instead of deprived. ​

~Snip~ ​

Really, it was a case of mistaken identity: Jews were all of a sudden taken for imperialists. Actually, it was more like guilt by association. Jews, you see, were identified with Israel, which was defeating Arabs, who resorted to guerrilla warfare, however inefficacious, which somehow gave them membership in the Third World, so that Israel, ipso facto, became an imperialist oppressor, and domestic Jews ceased being a minority. Acta est fabula.​

And so we have the pathetic spectacle of Lawrence Summers, who is sometimes a voice of sense among Democrats (warning Biden in the spring of 2021, for instance, that Biden’s spending plans would spark inflation):
Memo to Summers: You were president of Harvard University for several years (until you let a mob of shrieking feminists push you out). You could have done something to stop this growing cancer dead in its tracks. You had the power to veto proposed faculty hirings; veto proposed “decolonization” programs and courses; veto tenure and advancement for clearly politicized faculty. My hunch is you did nothing of the sort—ever. And now wonder why Harvard is such a cesspool. You and other spineless college administrators like you let this malignant tumor grow unabated right in front of you.
P.S. I note that a large group of Harvard faculty has denounced the student groups that side with Hamas. You can read the statement, which Steven Pinker organized, and the signatories here. But if you scroll down the list of faculty that have signed on, you may notice something striking: most of the signatories are from the hard sciences, the medical school, or business school. There are very few faculty signers from the humanities or social sciences. It is not hard to guess why.

Commentary:
Leftist especially Progressive elites have always despised Jews.
For some, it’s a God thing.
For others, it’s because Jews are (generally) successful, so they are jealous. They also disprove the leftist theories about discrimination and racism, as Jews are successful without Affirmative Action, despite bearing the overwhelming brunt of discrimination.
Some just need a scapegoat. And Jews are the traditional scapegoat.
Antisemitism is quietly accepted among the upper class, especially in Europe. Jews are loud, course, and, well WORK. They’re Rodney Dangerfield. Not for polite company.
You have to understand that Democrats especially the Democrat Socialists of America view that both the United States and Israel are on stolen land with no right to exist.
That is the goal of the modern Democrat party beneficiaries of the slavery, KKK and racism,
The Holocaust just drove traditional Leftist hatred below ground. for a while.

 

[Oldestyle]

The truth can sometimes be painful. This is NPR. Now tell us what Epoch Times, Breitbart and the rest of the Nazi rags have to say.

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/04/931379662/israel-uses-cover-of-us-election-to-destroy-palestinian-homes-critics-say

What's amusing, August is that you think NPR isn't biased!

 

[Oldestyle]

Sure. Just ask the Russians how that worked out for them in Afghanistan. How did it work out for us in Vietnam?
All you're doing by conducting a campaign of obliteration....is making new enemies. Kill one, two more spring up to replace them.

The Gaza Strip isn't Afghanistan, Jack! There are no mountain ranges to hide in and conduct guerilla attacks from. It's a concentrated area of buildings...buildings which are about to be leveled. No water, no food, no medical supplies and no electricity. That's what the Palestinians have to look forward to. Some of the hardest fighting there is would be house to house urban conflicts but I believe that the Israelis are outraged enough to see this through. People get that way when human animals commit acts of terror like Hamas just did.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

The Gaza Strip isn't Afghanistan, Jack! There are no mountain ranges to hide in and conduct guerilla attacks from. It's a concentrated area of buildings...buildings which are about to be leveled. No water, no food, no medical supplies and no electricity. That's what the Palestinians have to look forward to. Some of the hardest fighting there is would be house to house urban conflicts but I believe that the Israelis are outraged enough to see this through. People get that way when human animals commit acts of terror like Hamas just did.

I don't care what the actual terrain is, Oldestyle, it's the lesson to be taken from those campaigns. You can level every building in Gaza. Pave it over with shiny blacktop. But you will not destroy them. Or eradicate them. They will find new homes..and come back to make your life miserable. And you will be stuck fighting an endless war with an enemy who grows in ranks with every innocent civilian you kill.

 

[Mac-7]

Israel bulldozed these people`s homes and built settlements on the debris. Geez, I wonder why they`re angry?

The palestinians are perpetual losers who make war and then cry about their unhappy condition

 

[Mac-7]

I don't care what the actual terrain is, Oldestyle, it's the lesson to be taken from those campaigns. You can level every building in Gaza. Pave it over with shiny blacktop. But you will not destroy them. Or eradicate them. They will find new homes..and come back to make your life miserable. And you will be stuck fighting an endless war with an enemy who grows in ranks with every innocent civilian you kill.

How would you deal with people who are sworn to kill you?

 

[August West]

How would you deal with people who are sworn to kill you?

I`m not sure but I would certainly ask them why they want to kill me. No one is born a terrorist.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

How would you deal with people who are sworn to kill you?

Make allies with the people who just want to live, share the land, have jobs, and raise families. Don't take their land, demolish their houses, and kill their people indiscriminately.
That way, those people are less likely to turn to the more violent and extremist elements among them. That's how you weed the bad guys out.

 

[Mac-7]

I`m not sure but I would certainly ask them why they want to kill me. No one is born a terrorist.

Hamas thanks they can turn back the clock to 1947 and prevent to State of Israel from existing
Failing that they want to drive the Jews into the sea

 

[Mac-7]

Make allies with the people who just want to live, share the land, have jobs, and raise families. Don't take their land, demolish their houses, and kill their people indiscriminately.
That way, those people are less likely to turn to the more violent and extremist elements among them. That's how you weed the bad guys out.

So turn the other cheek and overlook the deaths of 1200 Jews?

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

So turn the other cheek and overlook the deaths of 1200 Jews?

Not at all. But you'll have to reconcile that with the deaths of thousands civilian Palestinians who will be killed when you conduct your campaign. It's already happening.
The cycle....continues.

 

[Mac-7]

Not at all. But you'll have to reconcile that with the deaths of thousands civilian Palestinians who will be killed when you conduct your campaign. It's already happening.
The cycle....continues.

So dont do anything except hunker down and wait for the next massacre?

House to house fighting is very bloody and plenty of civilians will die along with Hamas fighters

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

So dont do anything except hunker down and wait for the next massacre?

House to house fighting is very bloody and plenty of civilians will die along with Hamas fighters

Well, I'm not sure how the last one got by Israeli intelligence. Apparently, WE saw it coming before they did.
The more civilians that die, the more enemies you make.

 

[toomuchtime_]

I don't care what the actual terrain is, Oldestyle, it's the lesson to be taken from those campaigns. You can level every building in Gaza. Pave it over with shiny blacktop. But you will not destroy them. Or eradicate them. They will find new homes..and come back to make your life miserable. And you will be stuck fighting an endless war with an enemy who grows in ranks with every innocent civilian you kill.

Silly stuff. Once Hamas members are killed or driven out of Gaza, they will lack the resources to launch a major attack on Israel. They will become just one more tiny transnational terror group lost in the blur of so many other toothless transnational terror groups.

 

[Mac-7]

Well, I'm not sure how the last one got by Israeli intelligence. Apparently, WE saw it coming before they did.
The more civilians that die, the more enemies you make.

Its easier to track capability than intentions

What happened saturday could have happened on many previous saturdays

And it would be very expensive for Israel to remain on a war footing month after month

Unless they have a spy inside the highest level of Hamas they would not know which day such an attack would happen

 

[Doc7505]

I don't care what the actual terrain is, Oldestyle, it's the lesson to be taken from those campaigns. You can level every building in Gaza. Pave it over with shiny blacktop. But you will not destroy them. Or eradicate them. They will find new homes..and come back to make your life miserable. And you will be stuck fighting an endless war with an enemy who grows in ranks with every innocent civilian you kill.

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True, That's why so called Palestinians have no standing when it comes to the land that was inhabited by Israelis during Biblical times and destroyed by Rome in 70 A.D.
Jews never left the land and 840 years after the fact Muslims attacked and captured the Jerusalem and all the lands of Israel subjugating the population.
That doesn't make Muslim Arabs or Persians the sole owners of the land. That was determined by the British in WWI. and further by the Balfour declaration and further by the UN in 1948.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

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True, That's why so called Palestinians have no standing when it comes to the land that was inhabited by Israelis during Biblical times and destroyed by Rome in 70 A.D.
Jews never left the land and 840 years after the fact Muslims attacked and captured the Jerusalem and all the lands of Israel subjugating the population.
That doesn't make Muslim Arabs or Persians the sole owners of the land. That was determined by the British in WWI. and further by the Balfour declaration and further by the UN in 1948.

They have more than enough standing to the land. And that land...was shared for centuries before the Europeans showed up. Which is how I view that land...shared.