22nd Congressional Candidate Allen West Statement on New Black Panther Party:

[Trajan]

I wish there were more politicians willing to tell it like it is too Frank. But West left out the part that he also cast the dye to be sure that all the power of the Obama Administration and its surrogates will see to it that West is destroyed if there is any way to do that. You've seen it happen time and time again if somebody like him starts to gain some traction.

Back to the Black Panther Party and Care's post that there is no New Black Panther Party, the only references I have found for the New Black Panther Party is in political blogs, Wiki, a Megyn Kelly piece and a Glen Beck piece. Beck held two sets of a 'platform' or 'policy' of the 'old' Black Panthers and also the 'new" Black Panthers--these appeared to be enlarged versions of the Ten Point Plan--and pointed out the similarties between the two.

Here's the video of that segment--the plan comparisons come a little over half way, but Kelly and Beck and I'm sure others are still digging and coming up with all sorts of stuff that the mainstream media doesn't yet have the balls to print:

YouTube - Glenn Beck-New Black Panthers part1

Now it's easy to say that none of this is proof of voter intimidation of those two Black Panther guys. You have to see the entire on site encounter--the Youtube clip doesn't do it justice--the affidavits, transcripts, etc. to see that Holder had an excellent case against these guys. But all of this other stuff is what an attorney would use as character references showing motive, opportunity, and intent.

No voters have come forward to claim that they were intimidated from voting on account of the New Black Panthers standing outside the polling center in 2008

But don't let that FACT change your moronic rant.

Thank you Foxfyre...now you have exposed who you really are...a right wing pea brain, a racist and a moron.

you don't appear to be thinking this through, do you think they would come forward? would you? they have to live there.....at the end of the day you are defending an org. who had 2 of their membership standing there, in para military garb slapping nightsticks in their hands in front of a polling place wearing patches of the org. they represented.

Is it the end of the world? No, but please don't tell me they don't deserve a civil suite admonishing them and ensuring they are on record for their offense.

 

[Trajan]

No voters have come forward to claim that they were intimidated from voting on account of the New Black Panthers standing outside the polling center in 2008

But don't let that FACT change your moronic rant.

Thank you Foxfyre...now you have exposed who you really are...a right wing pea brain, a racist and a moron.

Well at least the pea brain checks out stuff before she posts it.

You obviously don't. So what size brain do YOU have?

From the April 27 hearing:

The first three live witnesses were Mike Mauro, Chris Hill, and Bartle Bull. Mauro is a lawyer from Connecticut who had gone to Philadelphia as a volunteer. Hill is a former infantry soldier who lives only nine blocks from the polling place. They were part of a roving team that responded on Election Day to a desperate call for help from a black poll watcher. The poll watcher told Hill that the Panthers had called him a “race traitor” and threatened him, saying “there would be hell to pay if he came out.” Hill said the man was visibly scared and had clearly been intimidated. Hill added that the poll watcher was afraid to testify before the commission or in the original voter-intimidation case because “he lives in that neighborhood.”

Bartle Bull — a well-known Democratic lawyer (and former publisher of The Village Voice), who worked in the South during the height of the civil-rights campaign — saw the same thing happen. He had also gotten a call about the intimidation and drove to the polling place. One of the Panthers pointed his billy club at Bull and said, “Now you are going to find out what it is to be ruled by the black man, cracker.” This to a man who started off as a volunteer for Adlai Stevenson, who headed Robert Kennedy’s campaign in New York in 1968, and who, in 1971, worked to get civil-rights stalwart Charles Evers elected governor of Mississippi.

Bull saw several voters walk up the long driveway to the polling place, stop, turn around, and leave when they saw the Panthers standing there in their black uniforms and combat boots with one of them slapping a billy club in his hand. It was a pretty dramatic moment in the hearing room when Bull, Hill, and Mauro turned in their chairs, and Bull pointed to one of the Panthers sitting two seats down from me and identified him as the one who wielded the billy club that day and who also said on the National Geograpic documentary that he wanted to kill white people.
Voter Intimidation, New Black Panther Style - Hans A. von Spakovsky - National Review Online=1

It is not necessary for voters to come forward to say they were intimidated when you have credible eye winesses observing voters leaving without voting because the Black Panthers were there.

WOW, did Bull (an apt moniker) tell you what party he was watching the poll for?

he wasn't present at the poll, he got a call and drove over there, and this matters how?

 

[Bfgrn]

Well at least the pea brain checks out stuff before she posts it.

You obviously don't. So what size brain do YOU have?

From the April 27 hearing:



It is not necessary for voters to come forward to say they were intimidated when you have credible eye winesses observing voters leaving without voting because the Black Panthers were there.

WOW, did Bull (an apt moniker) tell you what party he was watching the poll for?

he wasn't present at the poll, he got a call and drove over there, and this matters how?

He WASN'T THERE!!! And you ask WHY THAT matters???

It is not necessary for voters to come forward to say they were intimidated

YES, it IS absolutely necessary. You can't proceed with criminal charges based on hearsay or what someone FEELS..Unless you want a police state, which is exactly what you right wing scum bags want...

You right wingers aren't tough on crime, you are tough on freedom and liberty. You have NO CLUE what those two words mean.

 

[The T]

WOW, did Bull (an apt moniker) tell you what party he was watching the poll for?

he wasn't present at the poll, he got a call and drove over there, and this matters how?

He WASN'T THERE!!! And you ask WHY THAT matters???

It is not necessary for voters to come forward to say they were intimidated

YES, it IS absolutely necessary. You can't proceed with criminal charges based on hearsay or what someone FEELS..Unless you want a police state, which is exactly what you right wing scum bags want...

You right wingers aren't tough on crime, you are tough on freedom and liberty. You have NO CLUE what those two words mean.

But yet you defend these cretins...why? What they were doing was an affront to freedom. And back to the OP?

...The dye has been cast in this election cycle – Democrats and their liberal progressive socialist allies will continue to play the race card when it is politically expedient. I demand an investigation of the New Black Panther Partyand the placement of it, along with any extremist group, be placed on the Terrorist Watch List if warranted. If that it not done prior to my taking the oath of office as a United States Congressman, it will happen soon thereafter.”

I restate my support.

 

[bodecea]

Thursday, July 08, 2010

(Deerfield Beach, FL) “The recent decision by the Obama Justice Department to drop all charges of voter intimidation against the New Black Panther Party during the 2008 Election represents a sad day for all Americans. For an Administration that promised a new era in race relations, Obama and the Democrats in Congress have demonstrated that race will continually be exploited for political gain. It is outright hypocrisy that the Justice Department under Attorney General Holder is suing a sovereign American State, yet dismissing this heinous violation of our Constitution – the right to vote.

Throughout history, the Democrat party has been the standard bearer of voter intimidation in America – only this time the once victim is now the perpetrator.
The recent comments and actions of the New Black Panther Party are despicable, disgusting, and completely reprehensible. It is with no reservation that I make a formal condemnation of this racist and extremist group, which is anathema to the principles and values that make America a great Nation. For those who would define our country as a “nation of cowards,” or who feel the United States is neither great nor exceptional, and to any other racist and extremist groups, feel free to show yourselves the door...


...The dye has been cast in this election cycle – Democrats and their liberal progressive socialist allies will continue to play the race card when it is politically expedient. I demand an investigation of the New Black Panther Partyand the placement of it, along with any extremist group, be placed on the Terrorist Watch List if warranted. If that it not done prior to my taking the oath of office as a United States Congressman, it will happen soon thereafter.”

Read More of the statement.

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I Concur.

Ah, the Race Card Card.

 

[Bfgrn]

he wasn't present at the poll, he got a call and drove over there, and this matters how?

He WASN'T THERE!!! And you ask WHY THAT matters???

It is not necessary for voters to come forward to say they were intimidated

YES, it IS absolutely necessary. You can't proceed with criminal charges based on hearsay or what someone FEELS..Unless you want a police state, which is exactly what you right wing scum bags want...

You right wingers aren't tough on crime, you are tough on freedom and liberty. You have NO CLUE what those two words mean.

But yet you defend these cretins...why? What they were doing was an affront to freedom. And back to the OP?

...The dye has been cast in this election cycle – Democrats and their liberal progressive socialist allies will continue to play the race card when it is politically expedient. I demand an investigation of the New Black Panther Partyand the placement of it, along with any extremist group, be placed on the Terrorist Watch List if warranted. If that it not done prior to my taking the oath of office as a United States Congressman, it will happen soon thereafter.”

I restate my support.

I am not defending them, I am defending their constitutional rights, something you only pretend to do in the name of your brand of white only fascism. NO voters have come forward to claim that they were intimidated. You can't charge someone with voter intimidation when no VOTERS come forward to sign a charge. Both black men WERE arrested and DOJ obtained a default judgment against the guy with the night stick.

Ironic, NO ONE arrested the white guy at a presidential appearance wearing a sidearm and carrying a sign threatening violence and assassination or put him on a terrorist list. But of course, he was a 'patriot' exercising his right to free speech...

In 2004 a distraught mother whose son was killed in Iraq was arrested for protesting at a rally in New Jersey for first lady Laura Bush. The detained woman wasn't even armed. The same year a couple was arrested for wearing anti-Bush T-shirts to the president's July 4 appearance at the West Virginia Capitol.

WHY are you fascist assholes are always silent when that shit happens?

 

[The T]

He WASN'T THERE!!! And you ask WHY THAT matters???

It is not necessary for voters to come forward to say they were intimidated

YES, it IS absolutely necessary. You can't proceed with criminal charges based on hearsay or what someone FEELS..Unless you want a police state, which is exactly what you right wing scum bags want...

You right wingers aren't tough on crime, you are tough on freedom and liberty. You have NO CLUE what those two words mean.

But yet you defend these cretins...why? What they were doing was an affront to freedom. And back to the OP?

...The dye has been cast in this election cycle – Democrats and their liberal progressive socialist allies will continue to play the race card when it is politically expedient. I demand an investigation of the New Black Panther Partyand the placement of it, along with any extremist group, be placed on the Terrorist Watch List if warranted. If that it not done prior to my taking the oath of office as a United States Congressman, it will happen soon thereafter.”

I restate my support.

I am not defending them, I am defending their constitutional rights, something you only pretend to do in the name of your brand of white only fascism. NO voters have come forward to claim that they were intimidated. You can't charge someone with voter intimidation when no VOTERS come forward to sign a charge. Both black men WERE arrested and DOJ obtained a default judgment against the guy with the night stick.

Ironic, NO ONE arrested the white guy at a presidential appearance wearing a sidearm and carrying a sign threatening violence and assassination or put him on a terrorist list. But of course, he was a 'patriot' exercising his right to free speech...

In 2004 a distraught mother whose son was killed in Iraq was arrested for protesting at a rally in New Jersey for first lady Laura Bush. The detained woman wasn't even armed. The same year a couple was arrested for wearing anti-Bush T-shirts to the president's July 4 appearance at the West Virginia Capitol.

WHY are you fascist assholes are always silent when that shit happens?

And any grade schooler could see that these guys weren't there to play footsies...they were there for intimidation purposes.

Thank you for playing.

 

[Jeremy]

But yet you defend these cretins...why? What they were doing was an affront to freedom. And back to the OP?



I restate my support.

I am not defending them, I am defending their constitutional rights, something you only pretend to do in the name of your brand of white only fascism. NO voters have come forward to claim that they were intimidated. You can't charge someone with voter intimidation when no VOTERS come forward to sign a charge. Both black men WERE arrested and DOJ obtained a default judgment against the guy with the night stick.

Ironic, NO ONE arrested the white guy at a presidential appearance wearing a sidearm and carrying a sign threatening violence and assassination or put him on a terrorist list. But of course, he was a 'patriot' exercising his right to free speech...

In 2004 a distraught mother whose son was killed in Iraq was arrested for protesting at a rally in New Jersey for first lady Laura Bush. The detained woman wasn't even armed. The same year a couple was arrested for wearing anti-Bush T-shirts to the president's July 4 appearance at the West Virginia Capitol.

WHY are you fascist assholes are always silent when that shit happens?

And any grade schooler could see that these guys weren't there to play footsies...they were there for intimidation purposes.

Thank you for playing.

Nahhh... I'm sure they were standing at the entrance to a polling site, one with a billy club, to educate people on how to properly fill in the little circles.

They are just concerned citizens... pathetic, violent, racist, intimidating peace of shits that deserve to be in prison ... citizens.

 

[The T]

I am not defending them, I am defending their constitutional rights, something you only pretend to do in the name of your brand of white only fascism. NO voters have come forward to claim that they were intimidated. You can't charge someone with voter intimidation when no VOTERS come forward to sign a charge. Both black men WERE arrested and DOJ obtained a default judgment against the guy with the night stick.

Ironic, NO ONE arrested the white guy at a presidential appearance wearing a sidearm and carrying a sign threatening violence and assassination or put him on a terrorist list. But of course, he was a 'patriot' exercising his right to free speech...

In 2004 a distraught mother whose son was killed in Iraq was arrested for protesting at a rally in New Jersey for first lady Laura Bush. The detained woman wasn't even armed. The same year a couple was arrested for wearing anti-Bush T-shirts to the president's July 4 appearance at the West Virginia Capitol.

WHY are you fascist assholes are always silent when that shit happens?

And any grade schooler could see that these guys weren't there to play footsies...they were there for intimidation purposes.

Thank you for playing.

Nahhh... I'm sure they were standing at the entrance to a polling site, one with a billy club, to educate people on how to properly fill in the little circles.

They are just concerned citizens... pathetic, violent, racist, intimidating peace of shits that deserve to be in prison ... citizens.

 

[Bfgrn]

I am not defending them, I am defending their constitutional rights, something you only pretend to do in the name of your brand of white only fascism. NO voters have come forward to claim that they were intimidated. You can't charge someone with voter intimidation when no VOTERS come forward to sign a charge. Both black men WERE arrested and DOJ obtained a default judgment against the guy with the night stick.

Ironic, NO ONE arrested the white guy at a presidential appearance wearing a sidearm and carrying a sign threatening violence and assassination or put him on a terrorist list. But of course, he was a 'patriot' exercising his right to free speech...

In 2004 a distraught mother whose son was killed in Iraq was arrested for protesting at a rally in New Jersey for first lady Laura Bush. The detained woman wasn't even armed. The same year a couple was arrested for wearing anti-Bush T-shirts to the president's July 4 appearance at the West Virginia Capitol.

WHY are you fascist assholes are always silent when that shit happens?

And any grade schooler could see that these guys weren't there to play footsies...they were there for intimidation purposes.

Thank you for playing.

Nahhh... I'm sure they were standing at the entrance to a polling site, one with a billy club, to educate people on how to properly fill in the little circles.

They are just concerned citizens... pathetic, violent, racist, intimidating peace of shits that deserve to be in prison ... citizens.

YOU can tell by LOOKING at them? What kind of Constitution do you support; Nazi, Soviet Union... it is definitely NOT the United States Constitution.

So, they should be arrested and thrown in prison based on what? How you FEEL? We are a nation of LAWS. WHAT law did they break asshole? You can't charge someone with intimidating voters, if NO VOTERS press charges!

Do you fascists KNOW that you are fascists?

 

[Jeremy]

And any grade schooler could see that these guys weren't there to play footsies...they were there for intimidation purposes.

Thank you for playing.

Nahhh... I'm sure they were standing at the entrance to a polling site, one with a billy club, to educate people on how to properly fill in the little circles.

They are just concerned citizens... pathetic, violent, racist, intimidating peace of shits that deserve to be in prison ... citizens.

YOU can tell by LOOKING at them? What kind of Constitution do you support; Nazi, Soviet Union... it is definitely NOT the United States Constitution.

So, they should be arrested and thrown in prison based on what? How you FEEL? We are a nation of LAWS. WHAT law did they break asshole? You can't charge someone with intimidating voters, if NO VOTERS press charges!

Do you fascists KNOW that you are fascists?

*YAAAAAAWN*

 

[Bfgrn]

Nahhh... I'm sure they were standing at the entrance to a polling site, one with a billy club, to educate people on how to properly fill in the little circles.

They are just concerned citizens... pathetic, violent, racist, intimidating peace of shits that deserve to be in prison ... citizens.

YOU can tell by LOOKING at them? What kind of Constitution do you support; Nazi, Soviet Union... it is definitely NOT the United States Constitution.

So, they should be arrested and thrown in prison based on what? How you FEEL? We are a nation of LAWS. WHAT law did they break asshole? You can't charge someone with intimidating voters, if NO VOTERS press charges!

Do you fascists KNOW that you are fascists?

*YAAAAAAWN*

Ah, we've reached the infamous right wing pea brain *yawn*...Translation...the pea has reached the overload stage and all that is left is to surrender...

I accept your surrender...

 

[Jeremy]

YOU can tell by LOOKING at them? What kind of Constitution do you support; Nazi, Soviet Union... it is definitely NOT the United States Constitution.

So, they should be arrested and thrown in prison based on what? How you FEEL? We are a nation of LAWS. WHAT law did they break asshole? You can't charge someone with intimidating voters, if NO VOTERS press charges!

Do you fascists KNOW that you are fascists?

*YAAAAAAWN*

Ah, we've reached the infamous right wing pea brain *yawn*...Translation...the pea has reached the overload stage and all that is left is to surrender...

I accept your surrender...

You, my friend, are one load your mom should have swallowed.

 

[Charles_Main]

Ah, the fascist is also a paranoid pea brain...

Abigail M. Thernstrom is a Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute in New York, and a highly partisan Republican commissioner on the United States Commission on Civil Rights.


July 6, 2010 4:00 A.M.

Abigail Thernstrom

The New Black Panther Case:
A Conservative Dissent

Never mind this one-off stunt by fringe radicals; the DOJ is engaged in much more important voting-rights mischief.

Forget about the New Black Panther Party case; it is very small potatoes. Perhaps the Panthers should have been prosecuted under section 11 (b) of the Voting Rights Act for their actions of November 2008, but the legal standards that must be met to prove voter intimidation — the charge — are very high.

In the 45 years since the act was passed, there have been a total of three successful prosecutions. The incident involved only two Panthers at a single majority-black precinct in Philadelphia. So far — after months of hearings, testimony and investigation — no one has produced actual evidence that any voters were too scared to cast their ballots. Too much overheated rhetoric filled with insinuations and unsubstantiated charges has been devoted to this case.

Problem Nobody has to actually be intimidated. They just have to intend to intimidate. Clearly they did.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Abigail obviously didn't see the videotaped interview with the 'non threatening' guy with the billy club.

nor apparently, did she read Bartle Bulls affidavit.

HERE IS the video asshole...

TELL ME where he threatens anyone you moron...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU]YouTube - "Security" patrols stationed at polling places in Philly[/ame]

Just them being there is a threat, period. They had no business there. They were intimidating voters just by being there dressed like that, that is what thugs do, that is what they are.

 

[Foxfyre]

Okay you guys who insist on being apologists for two New Black Panthers standing at the entrance to a polling place with witnesses present who testified and were credible that these guys were intimidating voters.

Let's switch those NBP guys out for these guys:

Would you say that they were just exercising their constitutional right to stand there in front of a polling place making snarky remarks to people going in? If you had witnesses testifying that people were leaving without voting when they saw these guys, would you say that they weren't doing anything wrong. Would you be defending them too?

 

[Sky Dancer]

Is this the same precinct that is 100% black voters? Were cops present?

 

[rdean]

I'm so tired of this bullshit "Bush did it so why can't Obama" excuse. Bush doubled the deficit so it's ok for obama to quadruple it. Bush DOJ dropped charges so Obama can do it.
etc. etc. etc. Are you guys actually happy that he is following in Bush's shoes on these issues? What ever happened to this lie of "change" he belched out of his vagina during the election?

I'm tired of obtuse right wing pea brains.

The Bush administration's Justice Department -- not the Obama administration -- made the decision not to pursue criminal charges against members of the New Black Panther Party.

I just saw that on the news. Seems the Bush administration dropped it THREE MONTHS before Obama took office.

 

[The T]

I'm so tired of this bullshit "Bush did it so why can't Obama" excuse. Bush doubled the deficit so it's ok for obama to quadruple it. Bush DOJ dropped charges so Obama can do it.
etc. etc. etc. Are you guys actually happy that he is following in Bush's shoes on these issues? What ever happened to this lie of "change" he belched out of his vagina during the election?

I'm tired of obtuse right wing pea brains.

The Bush administration's Justice Department -- not the Obama administration -- made the decision not to pursue criminal charges against members of the New Black Panther Party.

I just saw that on the news. Seems the Bush administration dropped it THREE MONTHS before Obama took office.

Idiot. It was filed in JANUARY 2009.

 

[jeffrockit]

"It’s still festering. The political corruption of the Obama Justice Department, that is. When last we visited the New Black Panther Party voter intimidation case, AG Eric Holder had dismissed default judgments against the Philly NBPP thugs who menaced voters and poll workers on Election Day.

Who intervened? What parties inside and outside DOJ got involved? And why?

Thank goodness someone in Congress cares enough to ask the questions. GOP Rep. Frank Wolf of Virginia has been pressing the DOJ. You will be quite interested in the exchanges between Holder’s office and Wolf’s.

Click here for PDFs of Wolf’s initial inquiry and DOJ’s initial response.
And here for Rep. Wolf’s most recent set of questions for AG Holder regarding its obstruction.

DOJ is preventing Rep. Wolf from meeting with the trial team. Why?
Rep. Wolf wants to know what communications Acting AAG for Civil Rights Loretta King had with Holder and his deputy attorney(s) prior to the case dismissal.

Rep. Wolf has asked DOJ which third-party interest groups communicated with the government about the case. Those communications are NOT privileged. He has also asked whether any Department lawyers or political employees besides the trial team engaged in any discussions with the NBPP thugs and their lawyers. Who did? Have they recused themselves?

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In any event? I am on the same page with Mr. West...

The dye has been cast in this election cycle – Democrats and their liberal progressive socialist allies will continue to play the race card when it is politically expedient. I demand an investigation of the New Black Panther Partyand the placement of it, along with any extremist group, be placed on the Terrorist Watch List if warranted. If that it not done prior to my taking the oath of office as a United States Congressman, it will happen soon thereafter.”

And that means any groups that use intimidation as dispalyed in this case. no matter what colour race, creed they are. They ARE what they are. Domestic Terrorists.

The case should have never been dropped.

WOW...let two black guys wearing black with NO guns appear in a public place, and they are terrorists. Their Ten Point Plan calls for an END to violence and wars...

When white tea partiers showed up at town hall meetings and Obama speeches with guns and signs that threaten violence, they are just 'exercising their free speech'

Sure because the BPP have made no statements that could be construed as terroristic:

Black Panther Minister King Samir Shabazz, otherwise known as Maurice Heath, was one of the people engaging in voter intimidation. He also was featured in a January 2009 video proclaiming to a black audience, "You want freedom? You're gonna have to kill some crackers! You're gonna have to kill some of their babies!" Mr. Shabazz added, "I hate white people - all of them! Every last iota of a cracker, I hate 'em." The Washington Times' Kerry Picket reported last summer on Jerry Jackson, another accused Black Panther and an elected member of Philadelphia's 14th Ward Democratic Party committee. His interests, according to his MySpace page, are: "BLACK POWER, BLACK LOVE, BLACK UNITY, BLACK MINDS, KILLIN CRAKKKAS."
EDITORIAL: Kill the crackers - Washington Times

They seem to be an innocent organization with nothing but good ideas right?