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OK, so the fix has slowed the rise in insurance rates, and people now have insurance that has a higher copay, higher premiums, less coverage, can't keep their same doctors or plans (as promised), etc.You mean health care costs aren't going up as fast as they were before the fix? lol. OK.No need to resort to name calling. It only looks like you know you're losing the discussion.
Health care costs under Obamacare are skyrocketing.
Define skyrocketing. "Skyrocketing" implies a rapid increase. So show us at what rate per capita costs were climbing in the decade before ObamaCare went into effect, and how much they are going up now.
Not that it matters. ACA is going down the toilet where it belongs, anyway.
ObamaCare is going to go away, I agree. It will be replaced by single payer. Don't be stupid enough to think I support that outcome. I don't. But that is what is going to happen.
Exactly. They are still rising, but not as rapidly as before ObamaCare. I've proven it on this forum before.
And I will prove it again just as soon as you prove your claim they have skyrocketed. You are just parroting some right wing hack media bullshit you chose to believe without checking the facts.
Per capita spending is rising slower now. But I do not consider that a win. A win would be bending the cost curve down, and that can only be achieved by eliminating ObamaCare, eliminating employer sponsored health insurance, and letting people buy their health insurance the same way they buy their home, auto, and life insurance.OK, so the fix has slowed the rise in insurance rates, and people now have insurance that has a higher copay, higher premiums, less coverage, can't keep their same doctors or plans (as promised), etc.You mean health care costs aren't going up as fast as they were before the fix? lol. OK.No need to resort to name calling. It only looks like you know you're losing the discussion.
Health care costs under Obamacare are skyrocketing.
Define skyrocketing. "Skyrocketing" implies a rapid increase. So show us at what rate per capita costs were climbing in the decade before ObamaCare went into effect, and how much they are going up now.
Not that it matters. ACA is going down the toilet where it belongs, anyway.
ObamaCare is going to go away, I agree. It will be replaced by single payer. Don't be stupid enough to think I support that outcome. I don't. But that is what is going to happen.
Exactly. They are still rising, but not as rapidly as before ObamaCare. I've proven it on this forum before.
And I will prove it again just as soon as you prove your claim they have skyrocketed. You are just parroting some right wing hack media bullshit you chose to believe without checking the facts.
But hey. Even though insurance rates are still going up, they're not going up as fast as they were before. 'Course now you'll be paying fines for not buying into it.
This is considered win.
No need to resort to name calling. It only looks like you know you're losing the discussion.Something most certainly needed to be done. Health care costs were outpacing inflation, dumbass.Cool logic. It's like saying since the Democrats offered up Jim Crow and the Repubs did nothing, the Dems were justified in returning slavery.HillaryCare was a gigantic telegraphed punch by the Democrats that signaled what they would do to American health care if they ever got the chance.I seem to recall Hillarycare being laughed off the table.For health care, I believe we should get rid of employer sponsored health insurance, and that everyone should be buying their health insurance the same way we buy our auto, life, and home insurance.
So when you look at where we are now and where I think we should be, to suggest I am asking for comprehensive GOVERNMENT solutions is downright hysterical.
The Republicans responded by completely abdicating the issue. They never put an alternate comprehensive solution on the table even though one was badly needed. Health care costs have been outpacing inflation and GDP for decades.
The Republicans did NOTHING. So it was just a matter of time before a descendant of HillaryCare succeeded. Ta daaaaa! ObamaCare!
All the grinding and gnashing of teeth by the Republican Establishment is just theater for the rubes. They sold us down the river.
Even now, all they have is "Repeal ObamaCare." AND THEN WHAT?!?!
Nothing NEEDED to be done, and doing nothing isn't justification for doing something worse.
Your false analogy catastrophically fails because there were people who did plenty when the Deep South right wing extremists were offering up Jim Crow. They did not sit on their thumbs.
Health care costs under Obamacare are skyrocketing. The cure is worse than the disease.
Not that it matters. ACA is going down the toilet where it belongs, anyway.
hint... the bold stuff that says "comprehensive" solutions.. yeah that stuff says "comprehensive" solutions.The Right never keeps its powder dry these days. In their utter fear of Clinton, they shot their wad at her all at once. She has been handed their entire playbook against her and now she has time to prepare to respond to all of it.
We can also expect the Right to recycle all the golden oldies, and we can also expect her to expect that.
All of this will be an attempt to deflect from the fact the Right is morally and intellectually bankrupt. They have no comprehensive solutions to any of the issues of the day. They are too cowardly to put their dicks on the table and offer up answers, and so their strategy is to throw mud at the opposition and hope it sticks.
A pathetic campaign strategy that has failed them twice in a row, but won't stop them from doing it again and expecting a different result.
Ain't no we about it, but that's beside the point. What may or may not happen in the future is also beside the point.Per capita spending is rising slower now. But I do not consider that a win. A win would be bending the cost curve down, and that can only be achieved by eliminating ObamaCare, eliminating employer sponsored health insurance, and letting people buy their health insurance the same way they buy their home, auto, and life insurance.OK, so the fix has slowed the rise in insurance rates, and people now have insurance that has a higher copay, higher premiums, less coverage, can't keep their same doctors or plans (as promised), etc.You mean health care costs aren't going up as fast as they were before the fix? lol. OK.No need to resort to name calling. It only looks like you know you're losing the discussion.
Health care costs under Obamacare are skyrocketing.
Define skyrocketing. "Skyrocketing" implies a rapid increase. So show us at what rate per capita costs were climbing in the decade before ObamaCare went into effect, and how much they are going up now.
Not that it matters. ACA is going down the toilet where it belongs, anyway.
ObamaCare is going to go away, I agree. It will be replaced by single payer. Don't be stupid enough to think I support that outcome. I don't. But that is what is going to happen.
Exactly. They are still rising, but not as rapidly as before ObamaCare. I've proven it on this forum before.
And I will prove it again just as soon as you prove your claim they have skyrocketed. You are just parroting some right wing hack media bullshit you chose to believe without checking the facts.
But hey. Even though insurance rates are still going up, they're not going up as fast as they were before. 'Course now you'll be paying fines for not buying into it.
This is considered win.
Unfortunately, the GOP sold us all down the river a long time ago, and we are inevitably headed toward single payer. We will get there in our lifetimes.
I saw a guy with a dyed beard today. That was entertaining, too.No need to resort to name calling. It only looks like you know you're losing the discussion.Something most certainly needed to be done. Health care costs were outpacing inflation, dumbass.Cool logic. It's like saying since the Democrats offered up Jim Crow and the Repubs did nothing, the Dems were justified in returning slavery.HillaryCare was a gigantic telegraphed punch by the Democrats that signaled what they would do to American health care if they ever got the chance.I seem to recall Hillarycare being laughed off the table.
The Republicans responded by completely abdicating the issue. They never put an alternate comprehensive solution on the table even though one was badly needed. Health care costs have been outpacing inflation and GDP for decades.
The Republicans did NOTHING. So it was just a matter of time before a descendant of HillaryCare succeeded. Ta daaaaa! ObamaCare!
All the grinding and gnashing of teeth by the Republican Establishment is just theater for the rubes. They sold us down the river.
Even now, all they have is "Repeal ObamaCare." AND THEN WHAT?!?!
Nothing NEEDED to be done, and doing nothing isn't justification for doing something worse.
Your false analogy catastrophically fails because there were people who did plenty when the Deep South right wing extremists were offering up Jim Crow. They did not sit on their thumbs.
Health care costs under Obamacare are skyrocketing. The cure is worse than the disease.
Not that it matters. ACA is going down the toilet where it belongs, anyway.
That was entertaining.
I saw a guy with a dyed beard today. That was entertaining, too.No need to resort to name calling. It only looks like you know you're losing the discussion.Something most certainly needed to be done. Health care costs were outpacing inflation, dumbass.Cool logic. It's like saying since the Democrats offered up Jim Crow and the Repubs did nothing, the Dems were justified in returning slavery.HillaryCare was a gigantic telegraphed punch by the Democrats that signaled what they would do to American health care if they ever got the chance.
The Republicans responded by completely abdicating the issue. They never put an alternate comprehensive solution on the table even though one was badly needed. Health care costs have been outpacing inflation and GDP for decades.
The Republicans did NOTHING. So it was just a matter of time before a descendant of HillaryCare succeeded. Ta daaaaa! ObamaCare!
All the grinding and gnashing of teeth by the Republican Establishment is just theater for the rubes. They sold us down the river.
Even now, all they have is "Repeal ObamaCare." AND THEN WHAT?!?!
Nothing NEEDED to be done, and doing nothing isn't justification for doing something worse.
Your false analogy catastrophically fails because there were people who did plenty when the Deep South right wing extremists were offering up Jim Crow. They did not sit on their thumbs.
Health care costs under Obamacare are skyrocketing. The cure is worse than the disease.
Not that it matters. ACA is going down the toilet where it belongs, anyway.
That was entertaining.
You're an effing moron. You said republicans must have comprehensive solutions for every toe nail injury or they won't stand a chance. How the effing hell did you propose a POLITICAL PARTY OF OUR government (REPUBLICANS) come up with a COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION WITH THE WEIGHT OF LAW FOR PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR THAT IS NOT A GOVERNMENT SOLUTION, YA MORON?Nope. You are hallucinating. You MADE UP the word "government" in my post. I never said government solutions.IOW you have no effing idea what the hell you are talking about.For health care, I believe we should get rid of employer sponsored health insurance, and that everyone should be buying their health insurance the same way we buy our auto, life, and home insurance.
So when you look at where we are now and where I think we should be, to suggest I am asking for comprehensive GOVERNMENT solutions is downright hysterical.
And you are two personalities. One second you are asking for republican "comprehensive" government solutions to everything, the next second you claim you never asked for "comprehensive" government solutions.
Open your fucking eyes and look.
The only schizo here is you. Seeing things that are not there.
I'm all about white class, not white trash.I saw a guy with a dyed beard today. That was entertaining, too.No need to resort to name calling. It only looks like you know you're losing the discussion.Something most certainly needed to be done. Health care costs were outpacing inflation, dumbass.Cool logic. It's like saying since the Democrats offered up Jim Crow and the Repubs did nothing, the Dems were justified in returning slavery.
Nothing NEEDED to be done, and doing nothing isn't justification for doing something worse.
Your false analogy catastrophically fails because there were people who did plenty when the Deep South right wing extremists were offering up Jim Crow. They did not sit on their thumbs.
Health care costs under Obamacare are skyrocketing. The cure is worse than the disease.
Not that it matters. ACA is going down the toilet where it belongs, anyway.
That was entertaining.
Well, if your level is that low, I can imagine that that could have been entertaining. Perhaps a trailer park for you?
I'm all about white class, not white trash.I saw a guy with a dyed beard today. That was entertaining, too.No need to resort to name calling. It only looks like you know you're losing the discussion.Something most certainly needed to be done. Health care costs were outpacing inflation, dumbass.
Your false analogy catastrophically fails because there were people who did plenty when the Deep South right wing extremists were offering up Jim Crow. They did not sit on their thumbs.
Health care costs under Obamacare are skyrocketing. The cure is worse than the disease.
Not that it matters. ACA is going down the toilet where it belongs, anyway.
That was entertaining.
Well, if your level is that low, I can imagine that that could have been entertaining. Perhaps a trailer park for you?
Everyone except for Cruz. What is wrong with you? Hillary is yesterdays news. The world moves on, and judging by the 2014 elections and her quips about being dead broke, she's yesterday's news.They don't all have a 50-50 chance. Who do you think can beat Hillary?
As long as you don't keep me in the rouge drawer I'm fine.I'm all about white class, not white trash.I saw a guy with a dyed beard today. That was entertaining, too.No need to resort to name calling. It only looks like you know you're losing the discussion.
Health care costs under Obamacare are skyrocketing. The cure is worse than the disease.
Not that it matters. ACA is going down the toilet where it belongs, anyway.
That was entertaining.
Well, if your level is that low, I can imagine that that could have been entertaining. Perhaps a trailer park for you?
You are an excellent playtoy. I plan to keep you in my collection.
I'm all about white class, not white trash.I saw a guy with a dyed beard today. That was entertaining, too.No need to resort to name calling. It only looks like you know you're losing the discussion.Something most certainly needed to be done. Health care costs were outpacing inflation, dumbass.
Your false analogy catastrophically fails because there were people who did plenty when the Deep South right wing extremists were offering up Jim Crow. They did not sit on their thumbs.
Health care costs under Obamacare are skyrocketing. The cure is worse than the disease.
Not that it matters. ACA is going down the toilet where it belongs, anyway.
That was entertaining.
Well, if your level is that low, I can imagine that that could have been entertaining. Perhaps a trailer park for you?
I would but it seems to infuriate the smaller brains. Think I'll keep it for a time.I'm all about white class, not white trash.I saw a guy with a dyed beard today. That was entertaining, too.No need to resort to name calling. It only looks like you know you're losing the discussion.
Health care costs under Obamacare are skyrocketing. The cure is worse than the disease.
Not that it matters. ACA is going down the toilet where it belongs, anyway.
That was entertaining.
Well, if your level is that low, I can imagine that that could have been entertaining. Perhaps a trailer park for you?
Then you might want to consider changing your avatar. Just a suggestion.
As long as you don't keep me in the rouge drawer I'm fine.I'm all about white class, not white trash.I saw a guy with a dyed beard today. That was entertaining, too.That was entertaining.
Well, if your level is that low, I can imagine that that could have been entertaining. Perhaps a trailer park for you?
You are an excellent playtoy. I plan to keep you in my collection.
Everyone except for Cruz. What is wrong with you? Hillary is yesterdays news. The world moves on, and judging by the 2014 elections and her quips about being dead broke, she's yesterday's news.They don't all have a 50-50 chance. Who do you think can beat Hillary?
That's what I'm talking about! (giggle)
I would but it seems to infuriate the smaller brains. Think I'll keep it for a time.I'm all about white class, not white trash.I saw a guy with a dyed beard today. That was entertaining, too.That was entertaining.
Well, if your level is that low, I can imagine that that could have been entertaining. Perhaps a trailer park for you?
Then you might want to consider changing your avatar. Just a suggestion.
I'm used to a much more manly man. I'm sure I won't feel a thing.As long as you don't keep me in the rouge drawer I'm fine.I'm all about white class, not white trash.I saw a guy with a dyed beard today. That was entertaining, too.
Well, if your level is that low, I can imagine that that could have been entertaining. Perhaps a trailer park for you?
You are an excellent playtoy. I plan to keep you in my collection.
I am very discrete about my playtoys. Now, this won't hurt a bit.
Not at all. It's obvious if you just pay attention.I would but it seems to infuriate the smaller brains. Think I'll keep it for a time.I'm all about white class, not white trash.I saw a guy with a dyed beard today. That was entertaining, too.
Well, if your level is that low, I can imagine that that could have been entertaining. Perhaps a trailer park for you?
Then you might want to consider changing your avatar. Just a suggestion.
You must first be able to identify brains. That's the tricky part.
