2012 Election

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    One thing every single person can agree on is that this election is a choice between two visions for America.

    A.) We stop kicking the can down the road for future generations to deal with, stop trading handouts for power, and make the tough decisions now. We do the unpopular things to save America and future generations. We end the national collapsing gravy-train for the parasite class. We decide to let those who aren't willing to provide for themselves (the Lahkota's, JoeB.'s, Chris's, etc.) fall by the way side so that America can thrive. We ask 18 year olds to sacrifice for this country every day in the military - up to and including - sacrificing their life. If we can ask that of 18 year olds, we can ask the same thing of 40+ year old's who are not willing to work and make their own way in life. This option ends with a few who are not willing to work falling by the way side, but ultimately ends with America thriving once again.

    B.) We continue the redistributive policies of communism/marxism/socialism that ultimately ends with the collapse of America. This appeases the parasite class and buys their votes. It sustains power for those who are only concerned with their own power. And although it ends with the complete collapse of America, it does so with all of us "equal" in poverty and misery.
     
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    You do realize that the Republican plan the budget won't be balanced until 30 years from now right? In fact according to the plan cuts don't take place until 2016, where he'd have to have a second term to even have the effects of it. Why not do it during HIS term? I wish I could find that link again, it was someone here that posted it. That's from Mitts own website.


    A shit option in it's own right.
     
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    The Democrats can switch to their ball-control game now, pounding it out on the ground with low-risk plays and running out the clock. The Democratic convention will be professional, positive, free of surprises and very effective. When you're ahead and you have a good ground game, you can play ball control. In contrast, the Republicans are already resorting to hail mary passes like Ryan and Eastwood.

    Romney is the first candidate in recent history to not get any significant convention bump. Obama is ahead in all but one swing state, even before the Democratic convention. At the presidential level, this thing is pretty much already over. Now it's become a question of how many congressional seats the Democrats can pick up.
     
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    Well, the electoral college is controlled by the GOP thanks to the November 2010 elections. Now, you can wish all you want for Obama, but it doesn't change reality. So the real question is, will you have the backbone to show up on USMB the day after Romney has won the election in a landslide? :lol:
     
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    Interesting way to frame this election, although an extremely biased one. I guess if the choice were between saving America or the complete collapse of our country, with all in poverty and misery, the decision would not be difficult. However, that is really not the choice, is it?

    Also, you make the assumption that those who politically disagree with you are not willing to work and support themselves such as Lahkota, JoeB and Chris, but there is nothing of substance behind such assumption.
     
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    Last time I checked the election will be close, but the electoral vote is currently tilted towards President Obama. I do not see a landside either way.

    I am not sure how the GOP controls the electoral college as a result of the 2010 elections. States are given electoral votes in accordance with their congressional representatives based on their populations.
     
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    No description of the contrast between the two choices can be unbiased! The truthful evaluation of Obama must include a study of his past...unlike what we got before the 2008 elections.

    The OP description of the choices was spot on.

    The choice is between turning back toward pursuit of the traditional American dream and continuing forward toward Marxism.
     
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    You've got nothing of substance that says they do, sorry.

    Everything they post suggests that they are takers.
     
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    Why the need for the fantasy examination of Obama's past? Obama has been president for four years, I believe that is the best guage of his ability as president for the next four years.

    If Obama wins do you really believe we are heading towards marxism? Do you really believe that the Democratic party stands against the American dream?

    It is hard to engage in meaningful conversation with such hyperbole.
     

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