2011 q2 gdp 1.3%

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we discussed this earlier (see link below) , I was high by a smidgen. *shrugs*. The economy is dead in the water, does anyone think that's debatable, really?




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U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%
* JULY 29, 2011, 8:59 A.M. ET

The U.S. economy expanded at a slower pace than expected in the spring as consumers cut back on spending, while revisions showed the slowdown since the beginning of the year was much more drastic than previously thought.

The Commerce Department Friday said gross domestic product rose at an annualized seasonally adjusted rate of 1.3% in April through June, while first-quarter growth was revised down sharply to a 0.4% rate from the earlier estimate of a 1.9% gain. A big reason behind the downward revision in first-quarter growth was that the inventory buildup by companies was less than initially estimated, while outlays by the federal government and consumers were also revised down.

Economists surveyed by Dow Jones Newswires expected GDP to rise 1.8% in the second quarter.

The first estimate of the economy's benchmark indicator for the second quarter showed growth was supported largely by business investment and exports.

But consumer spending, a big engine for the U.S. economy, made a much smaller contribution to growth. Spending edged up by an annualized rate of 0.1% in April through June, the weakest it has been in two years, after a 2.1% gain in the first quarter.

Americans have had to spend more for gasoline amid higher prices, leading them to cut purchases for other things. Sales last month by U.S. retailers excluding car and parts dealers were unchanged, with declines reported by furniture stores; electronics and appliances stores; restaurant and bars; health care stores; and sporting goods, hobby, book, and music stores.

Also restraining consumers is a high jobless rate. Big companies have been announcing job reductions. At Delta Air Lines Inc., for instance, more than 2,000 staff have accepted voluntary redundancy job cuts. The carrier, stung by fuel prices, announced a 58% drop in second-quarter earnings.


Government spending and investment fell, however. Although federal spending rose 2.2%, outlays by state and local governments contracted 3.4%.


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U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3% - WSJ.com
 
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Bernbank to the rescue? :eusa_whistle:


And Scene: Q2 GDP 1.3%, Gold Surging On Imminent QE3 Resumption

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 07/29/2011 08:30 -0400





A simply unprecedented miss in Q2 GDP well below the consensus range, with the official number printing at 1.3%, giving it upside room for revisions in case QE3 does not pass, although at this point it is more than obvious that this number is goalseeked to give Bernanke the carte blanche to start more easing any second. This number follows an epic revision to prior data, with Q1 plunging from 1.9% to 0.4%. The GDP internals were simply appalling: Personal Consumption tumbled from 2.1% to 0.1%, on expectations of 0.8%! The US consumer is dead despite not paying mortgage payments.

Lastly, US PCE Core printed at 2.1% on expectations of 2.3%. As we have been expecting since December, the US is on the verge of a triple dip recession within the bigger depression. With a deadlocked Congress, the Fed has no option but to do another monetary stimulus as seen by the surge of gold to near record highs on the data in the $1.625 range and the implosion in the USDCHF to fresh all time lows.

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/and-scene-q2-gdp-13

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Notice they never revise it up. Bernacki prints all this money, dumps into the economy and makes it look like we are doing better then we actually are for a minute, but we were never in a real recovery most of our businesses that are making money are making it overseas, Obama has stifled our growth because of his big government bullshit policies and we are yet to feel the real effect of Obamacare.
 
heard obama came out this morning...am at work didn't see it...wander if he had any rah rah for the economy?
 
I'd bet that the current DGP numbers are cooked, and have been cooked for the last few years at least.
 
I'd bet that the current DGP numbers are cooked, and have been cooked for the last few years at least.

*sigh* yea well, I would not be surprised. that change back in the 90's ala reporting the un- employment number was the biggest bunch of cow dung....:lol: no wonder people don't trust the gov.
 
They lowered the 1st qtr number down from 1.9% to .4%, wonder how much lower they'll revise the nnd qtr number down from 1.3%? Not celebrating, this is terrible news, but damn you can't trust the gov't to tell you the truth.


PS: You didn't miss much on Obama's talk. Basically reiterated the same ol' same ol', call your congressperson to get them to compromise and give him what he wants.
 
They lowered the 1st qtr number down from 1.9% to .4%, wonder how much lower they'll revise the nnd qtr number down from 1.3%? Not celebrating, this is terrible news, but damn you can't trust the gov't to tell you the truth.


:eek:when? I didn't see that..seriously?

PS: You didn't miss much on Obama's talk. Basically reiterated the same ol' same ol', call your congressperson to get them to compromise and give him what he wants.


thx for the Obavomitus update;)
 
They lowered the 1st qtr number down from 1.9% to .4%, wonder how much lower they'll revise the nnd qtr number down from 1.3%? Not celebrating, this is terrible news, but damn you can't trust the gov't to tell you the truth.


:eek:when? I didn't see that..seriously?

PS: You didn't miss much on Obama's talk. Basically reiterated the same ol' same ol', call your congressperson to get them to compromise and give him what he wants.


thx for the Obavomitus update;)



From cnnmoney.com

GDP report: Economy slows to 1.3% growth in Q2

Annalyn Censky, On Friday July 29, 2011, 12:02 pm EDT
Consumers all but shut their wallets in the second quarter, causing the U.S. economy to grow at a tepid pace.

To make matters worse, growth in the first quarter was much slower than initially thought, according to new government figures released Friday.

"It's quite worrisome as the economy remains at stall speed in the second quarter," said Sal Guatieri, senior economist with BMO Capital Markets. "If that continues, then it would raise the risks of a double dip."

Gross domestic product, the broadest measure of the nation's economic health, rose at an annual rate of 1.3% in the second quarter, the Commerce Department said.

While that's an increase from the revised 0.4% growth rate in the first three months of the year, it is hardly good news. The government originally reported that the economy grew at a 1.9% annualized rate in the first quarter.

The growth in the second quarter was also below the 1.8% increase expected by economists surveyed by CNNMoney.
 
They lowered the 1st qtr number down from 1.9% to .4%, wonder how much lower they'll revise the nnd qtr number down from 1.3%? Not celebrating, this is terrible news, but damn you can't trust the gov't to tell you the truth.


:eek:when? I didn't see that..seriously?

PS: You didn't miss much on Obama's talk. Basically reiterated the same ol' same ol', call your congressperson to get them to compromise and give him what he wants.


thx for the Obavomitus update;)



From cnnmoney.com

GDP report: Economy slows to 1.3% growth in Q2

Annalyn Censky, On Friday July 29, 2011, 12:02 pm EDT
Consumers all but shut their wallets in the second quarter, causing the U.S. economy to grow at a tepid pace.

To make matters worse, growth in the first quarter was much slower than initially thought, according to new government figures released Friday.

"It's quite worrisome as the economy remains at stall speed in the second quarter," said Sal Guatieri, senior economist with BMO Capital Markets. "If that continues, then it would raise the risks of a double dip."

Gross domestic product, the broadest measure of the nation's economic health, rose at an annual rate of 1.3% in the second quarter, the Commerce Department said.

While that's an increase from the revised 0.4% growth rate in the first three months of the year, it is hardly good news. The government originally reported that the economy grew at a 1.9% annualized rate in the first quarter.

The growth in the second quarter was also below the 1.8% increase expected by economists surveyed by CNNMoney.

wow, just wow, heres one via linkage..unreal;

BAD: GDP Misses Estimates At 1.3%, Q1 Revised Down To Just 0.4%

GDP just missed expectations at 1.3%.

Analysts were looking for 1.8%.

Even worse, perhaps: Q1 GDP was revised from 1.9% all the way down to 0.4%, which is stunning.

Personal consumption, which was expected to grow by 0.8%, only grew by 0.1%.

Bad all around

Stocks diving now over 1% in the pre-market.

Read more: BAD: GDP Misses Estimates At 1.3%, Q1 Revised Down To Just 0.4%


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They lowered the 1st qtr number down from 1.9% to .4%, wonder how much lower they'll revise the nnd qtr number down from 1.3%? Not celebrating, this is terrible news, but damn you can't trust the gov't to tell you the truth.
when? I didn't see that..seriously? ...

from Economic Calendar: Financial Calendars - Yahoo! Finance

People who look at this stuff can figure that since the BEA usually revises the GDP down 1.5 %, that the current 1.3% must really be -0.2. Negative means contraction AKA Obama Recession 2.0.
 
They lowered the 1st qtr number down from 1.9% to .4%, wonder how much lower they'll revise the nnd qtr number down from 1.3%? Not celebrating, this is terrible news, but damn you can't trust the gov't to tell you the truth.
when? I didn't see that..seriously? ...

from Economic Calendar: Financial Calendars - Yahoo! Finance

People who look at this stuff can figure that since the BEA usually revises the GDP down 1.5 %, that the current 1.3% must really be -0.2. Negative means contraction AKA Obama Recession 2.0.

ipso double dip, which has only been a secret to the media, main street has known this for 4-5 months;)
 
...ipso double dip, which has only been a secret to the media, main street has known this for 4-5 months;)
IBD's monday edition editorial points out that the current real GDP percapita is less than it was before Obama. It means that inflation and population show Obama's GDP is shrinking.
 
we discussed this earlier (see link below) , I was high by a smidgen. *shrugs*. The economy is dead in the water, does anyone think that's debatable, really?




http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...-assorted-not-so-good-stats-the-politics.html




U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%
* JULY 29, 2011, 8:59 A.M. ET

The U.S. economy expanded at a slower pace than expected in the spring as consumers cut back on spending, while revisions showed the slowdown since the beginning of the year was much more drastic than previously thought.

The Commerce Department Friday said gross domestic product rose at an annualized seasonally adjusted rate of 1.3% in April through June, while first-quarter growth was revised down sharply to a 0.4% rate from the earlier estimate of a 1.9% gain. A big reason behind the downward revision in first-quarter growth was that the inventory buildup by companies was less than initially estimated, while outlays by the federal government and consumers were also revised down.

Economists surveyed by Dow Jones Newswires expected GDP to rise 1.8% in the second quarter.

The first estimate of the economy's benchmark indicator for the second quarter showed growth was supported largely by business investment and exports.

But consumer spending, a big engine for the U.S. economy, made a much smaller contribution to growth. Spending edged up by an annualized rate of 0.1% in April through June, the weakest it has been in two years, after a 2.1% gain in the first quarter.

Americans have had to spend more for gasoline amid higher prices, leading them to cut purchases for other things. Sales last month by U.S. retailers excluding car and parts dealers were unchanged, with declines reported by furniture stores; electronics and appliances stores; restaurant and bars; health care stores; and sporting goods, hobby, book, and music stores.

Also restraining consumers is a high jobless rate. Big companies have been announcing job reductions. At Delta Air Lines Inc., for instance, more than 2,000 staff have accepted voluntary redundancy job cuts. The carrier, stung by fuel prices, announced a 58% drop in second-quarter earnings.


Government spending and investment fell, however. Although federal spending rose 2.2%, outlays by state and local governments contracted 3.4%.


more at-
U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3% - WSJ.com

1.3% + 9.2% = buh bye Obama
 
It's hard, it's weird... After so much debate on these boards the numbers in the past turned out to be much worse than they were let on to being and the numbers today are horrid. I remember thread after thread claiming the "recovery" was in fact, definitely, more than likely, for sure this time, happening...

What kills me is the people that got it right, over and over and made some pretty bold predictions are the ones shut out the hardest. Today the economy is not recovering because of minority in the house's GOP, the Tea Party. The whole past of bad numbers over the last 2 and a half years is now fully placed on a handful of votes in the House. It's really amazing how far people will go to not concede any of the blame for Obama's policies NOT doing as Obama himself claimed on, well on Obama.

The same 5-8 people will claim it’s all the Republicans fault we are in this mess, even right now, this very day… Then they will call anyone that does not agree with them “right wing loons” or “hacks”… This is why political debate has lost most of its meaning to me, no matter how wrong people are, no matter have factually proven false their statements are it seems the *feel* right and that’s all they need…
 
The economy is really tanking due to all of the pump priming crap.

Of course it is. But pump priming is what helped stock prices recover and increase at historic rates. So of course, as inflation has gone up 3% since last year, the majority of the private sector are hurting, particularly small to mid sized businesses who are seeing their costs go up and their savings being eaten away by this inflation. But this inflation is most certainly benefiting the Wall Street class, who have been making record returns the past couple of years. Obama and Bernanke are implementing the policy of Wall Street(as they were Obama's largest contributors in the last election) to the detriment of the little guy(and yes, even guys making six figures or who are little millionaires are small guys compared to the Wall Street rich). People may try to defend Obama by saying he isn't Bernanke, doesn't control the FED and therefor doesn't control the printing press. But Obama renominated him and ought to be held accountable for Bernanke's actions. They are justing priming a phony bubble economy.
 
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