Netanyahu vows to invade Rafah 'with or without a deal' as cease-fire talks with Hamas continue

[surada]

Look at the current face of evil.

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For those who read the bible, if the Jews are Gods chosen, then the AntiChrist will be a person who is probably a citizen of Israel. I'm not saying Netanyahu is that person, but I do think that it is time to stop pretending that Israel is always innocent. This man propped up Hamas. He allowed other countries to fund them. He turned a blind eye as they trained for Oct 7th. He was told a strike was imminent by his own intelligence and did nothing. IMO he set this all up and now is using the old Israel has a righ to exist defense that government has used to justify every slaughter and occupation it has committed. Now we have this:

Netanyahu vows to invade Rafah 'with or without a deal' as cease-fire talks with Hamas continue​

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu pledged Tuesday to launch an incursion into the southern Gaza city of Rafah, where hundreds of thousands of Palestinians are sheltering from the almost 7-month-long war, just as cease-fire negotiations between Israel and Hamas appear to be gaining steam.

Netanyahu’s comments came hours before U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken was to arrive in Israel to advance the truce talks — which appear to be one of the most serious rounds of negotiations between Israel and Hamas since the war began. The deal is meant to free hostages, bring some relief to the population and avert an Israeli offensive into Rafah and the potential harm to civilians there.

Netanyahu said Israel would enter Rafah, which Israel says is Hamas’ last stronghold, regardless of whether a truce-for-hostages deal is struck.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/04/30/israel-hamas-war-news-04-30-2024/9dae9304-06de-11ef-b60b-a512fc749f9b_story.html

So there you have it foks. Netanyahu is going to blast Rafah, even if Hamas gives up the hostages. And you wonder why those kids are protesting. Some of you here are calling people who oppose Netanyahu Hamas supporters. But look at this and try telling me how the Israeli right wing is any different from Hamas.

This carnage just goes on and on. Israel is a pariah.

 

[surada]

Everything you say about Bibi is correct. His political existence has always depended on being at war continually. Otherwise, Israel would be hindered in acquiring more land by kicking off Palestinians in the west bank.

But the US is powerless to stop the gravy train to Israel because of AIPAC and the rel right. Stop the aid, lose the next election.

But peace is not unilateral, and the Israelis did make a real offer in WJC's waning days. If the Pales could accept non-violent opposition, the very real anti-semitism would not allow them to run children over with tanks and bomb them with US bombs. Does anyone think Sinwar is about peace? If Bibi comes to a pale house, they're safe unless they are related to a terrorist and/or Bibi wants the land. Sinwar comes to an Israeli house, he kills the men and rapes and kills the women and children. And he's not above raping the men too.

These two tribes of genetically interchangeable tribes have been at it since the fucking Bronze age. And the tribe of Moses was doing ethnic cleansing even after the exodus. But, Egypt will be destabilized with Israel's current plan to invade Rafah but leave the crossing between Gaza and Egypt open for the Pales and Hamas to infiltrate into Egypt where they are allied with the Muslim Brotherhood ... the enemy of Egypt's current pro-US president El-Sisi.

Israel could simply have surrounded Gaza on the three land sides. And then they'd really have bottled up Sinwar and his bloody associates. Instead there are still hundreds of tunnels from Gaza to Egypt. I wonder what Bibi's real aim is .... besides staying in power and out of jail.

The offer of tiny disconnected bantustans was farce.

 

[Weatherman2020]

This carnage just goes on and on. Israel is a pariah.

Tell your terrorist comrades to surrender if you’re so concerned

 

[bendog]

The offer of tiny disconnected bantustans was farce.

the Pales should have sued for peace after 1978, but they are a warlike, but pathetically incompetent, tribe. Israel is no better, but they are very skilled

 

[Weatherman2020]

the Pales should have sued for peace after 1978, but they are a warlike, but pathetically incompetent, tribe. Israel is no better, but they are very skilled

When you’re surrounded by 7 nations that want to murder every citizen, you’d be good at defending yourself too.

 

[berg80]

Netanyahu has an audience of one.

"One" being a metaphorical reference to the hardliners in Israel he seeks to appease so he can hold on to power. A faction of his government who claim as their goal the elimination of Hamas. A goal resulting in the deaths of countless thousands of innocent Palestinians, including women and children. Something said hardliners seem to be comfortable with despite the growing international outrage over what is seen as a humanitarian crisis caused by Israel's unrelenting military assault and refusal to allow for aid to cross the border in to Gaza.

The UN says there’s ‘full-blown famine’ in northern Gaza. What does that mean?
https://apnews.com/article/gaza-fam...el-hamas-war-476941bf2dc259f85a706408b2a665ff

Netanyahu's intractable position was never more obvious over the last few days when the possibility of a cease fire came about. An opportunity that appeared to hinge on whether the IDF went ahead with its planned operation in Rafah. The telling aspect of this development being BiBi proclaimed it did not matter whether a cease fire agreement hung in the balance, the attacks on Rafah would go ahead anyway.

Why give up an opportunity for the release of the hostages and an end to the killing? Because when the current conflict stops BiBi will face the prospect of being removed from office. Meaning perpetuating the war is in his interests if not anybody else's.

 

[IM2]

Everything you say about Bibi is correct. His political existence has always depended on being at war continually. Otherwise, Israel would be hindered in acquiring more land by kicking off Palestinians in the west bank.

But the US is powerless to stop the gravy train to Israel because of AIPAC and the rel right. Stop the aid, lose the next election.

But peace is not unilateral, and the Israelis did make a real offer in WJC's waning days. If the Pales could accept non-violent opposition, the very real anti-semitism would not allow them to run children over with tanks and bomb them with US bombs. Does anyone think Sinwar is about peace? If Bibi comes to a pale house, they're safe unless they are related to a terrorist and/or Bibi wants the land. Sinwar comes to an Israeli house, he kills the men and rapes and kills the women and children. And he's not above raping the men too.

These two tribes of genetically interchangeable tribes have been at it since the fucking Bronze age. And the tribe of Moses was doing ethnic cleansing even after the exodus. But, Egypt will be destabilized with Israel's current plan to invade Rafah but leave the crossing between Gaza and Egypt open for the Pales and Hamas to infiltrate into Egypt where they are allied with the Muslim Brotherhood ... the enemy of Egypt's current pro-US president El-Sisi.

Israel could simply have surrounded Gaza on the three land sides. And then they'd really have bottled up Sinwar and his bloody associates. Instead there are still hundreds of tunnels from Gaza to Egypt. I wonder what Bibi's real aim is .... besides staying in power and out of jail.

And if the Arabs wanted to destroy Isreal, they surround Isreal and could all attack Israel at once and it would no longer exist.

 

[IM2]

Netanyahu has an audience of one.

"One" being a metaphorical reference to the hardliners in Israel he seeks to appease so he can hold on to power. A faction of his government who claim as their goal the elimination of Hamas. A goal resulting in the deaths of countless thousands of innocent Palestinians, including women and children. Something said hardliners seem to be comfortable with despite the growing international outrage over what is seen as a humanitarian crisis caused by Israel's unrelenting military assault and refusal to allow for aid to cross the border in to Gaza.

The UN says there’s ‘full-blown famine’ in northern Gaza. What does that mean?
https://apnews.com/article/gaza-fam...el-hamas-war-476941bf2dc259f85a706408b2a665ff

Netanyahu's intractable position was never more obvious over the last few days when the possibility of a cease fire came about. An opportunity that appeared to hinge on whether the IDF went ahead with its planned operation in Rafah. The telling aspect of this development being BiBi proclaimed it did not matter whether a cease fire agreement hung in the balance, the attacks on Rafah would go ahead anyway.

Why give up an opportunity for the release of the hostages and an end to the killing? Because when the current conflict stops BiBi will face the prospect of being removed from office. Meaning perpetuating the war is in his interests if not anybody else's.

Yep. If the war ends Netanyahu is removed and put in prison. He is the Jewish version of Trump. He trying to stay on top in order to avoid the rule of law.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Yep. If the war ends Netanyahu is removed and put in prison. He is the Jewish version of Trump. He trying to stay on top in order to avoid the rule of law.

When the war ends in victory with Hamas destroyed and Israel in firm control of security in Gaza, Netanyahu will win another term as PM.

 

[sparky]

When the war ends in victory with Hamas destroyed and Israel in firm control of security in Gaza, Netanyahu will win another term as PM.

well that was probably his plan TMT, but i suspect the demise of hamas will only be the beginning , not the end of the war

~S~

 

[toomuchtime_]

well that was probably his plan TMT, but i suspect the demise of hamas will only be the beginning , not the end of the war

~S~

The destruction of Hamas means the destruction of their military infrastructure making it impossible for them to launch large scale attacks against Israel, and Israeli security control over Gaza means that the military infrastructure cannot be rebuilt.

The Palestinians will continue to try to carry out terror attacks against Israel because their passion to try to destroy Israel is what defines them as a people, but their efforts in Gaza will become just as puny as their efforts in the West Bank are.

After achieving this, Netanyahu will deserve another term as PM.

 

[Lisa558]

And if the Arabs wanted to destroy Isreal, they surround Isreal and could all attack Israel at once and it would no longer exist.

The Arabs tried that in ‘67. Didn’t work then, and wouldn’t work now.

 

[Lisa558]

When the war ends in victory with Hamas destroyed and Israel in firm control of security in Gaza, Netanyahu will win another term as PM.

And he would deserve it.

 

[Ringo]

News from the world of rules-based order. 12 Republican senators threaten the chief prosecutor and International Criminal Court officials with sanctions for intending to issue an arrest warrant for Netanyahu.
Imagine the smell of Western burning assholes if the ICC were threatened from Russia or China.

 

[USAF 2023]

Look at the current face of evil.

View attachment 940447

For those who read the bible, if the Jews are Gods chosen, then the AntiChrist will be a person who is probably a citizen of Israel. I'm not saying Netanyahu is that person, but I do think that it is time to stop pretending that Israel is always innocent. This man propped up Hamas. He allowed other countries to fund them. He turned a blind eye as they trained for Oct 7th. He was told a strike was imminent by his own intelligence and did nothing. IMO he set this all up and now is using the old Israel has a righ to exist defense that government has used to justify every slaughter and occupation it has committed. Now we have this:

Netanyahu vows to invade Rafah 'with or without a deal' as cease-fire talks with Hamas continue​

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu pledged Tuesday to launch an incursion into the southern Gaza city of Rafah, where hundreds of thousands of Palestinians are sheltering from the almost 7-month-long war, just as cease-fire negotiations between Israel and Hamas appear to be gaining steam.

Netanyahu’s comments came hours before U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken was to arrive in Israel to advance the truce talks — which appear to be one of the most serious rounds of negotiations between Israel and Hamas since the war began. The deal is meant to free hostages, bring some relief to the population and avert an Israeli offensive into Rafah and the potential harm to civilians there.

Netanyahu said Israel would enter Rafah, which Israel says is Hamas’ last stronghold, regardless of whether a truce-for-hostages deal is struck.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/04/30/israel-hamas-war-news-04-30-2024/9dae9304-06de-11ef-b60b-a512fc749f9b_story.html

So there you have it foks. Netanyahu is going to blast Rafah, even if Hamas gives up the hostages. And you wonder why those kids are protesting. Some of you here are calling people who oppose Netanyahu Hamas supporters. But look at this and try telling me how the Israeli right wing is any different from Hamas.

Thread that supports your “ claim “ that Hamas offered to give up the Hostages in exchange for not going into Rafah . Notice you say nothing about the Antisemitism; Jewish kids being warned and stopped from going to class, physical violence, being told it’s too bad Hitler didn’t finish the job, etc etc What about the Millions of dollars in damage? Another BLACK ANTISEMITE

 

[Lisa558]

Thread that supports your “ claim “ that Hamas offered to give up the Hostages in exchange for not going into Rafah . Notice you say nothing about the Antisemitism; Jewish kids being warned and stopped from going to class, physical violence, being told it’s too bad Hitler didn’t finish the job, etc etc What about the Millions of dollars in damage? Another BLACK ANTISEMITE

Yup. He rails and whines about racism, and then makes negative judgments about Jews. The most recent I recall was his majesty proclaiming that Gd was punishing the Jews.

 

[Failzero]

G-d Speed IDF ( Go Door To Door & finish HAMAS )

 

[Lisa558]

G-d Speed IDF ( Go Door To Door & finish HAMAS )

And then the Palestinians need to go to Egypt. I don’t want more Muslims here who support torturing Jews to death, which most of them do.

Instead of pressuring Jews, maybe Biden should pressure the Arabs to take in these people.

 

[Lisa558]

And if the Arabs wanted to destroy Isreal, they surround Isreal and could all attack Israel at once and it would no longer exist.

And the antisemites would be happy with that.

 

[USAF 2023]

Yup. He rails and whines about racism, and then makes negative judgments about Jews. The most recent I recall was his majesty proclaiming that Gd was punishing the Jews.

What would you expect from the BLACK piece of turd?