Your only PROG choices are now Biden & Sanders. Pick one

[Dick Foster]

Democrat Choices:

Bernie 'Castro FanBoy' Sanders

Joe 'Videotaped Confession' Biden

Elizabeth 'Fake Woowoo' Warren

Mini-Mike 'Carbon Copy' Bloomberg

Well at least they got rid of the queer so things are looking up.
Now they've got the commie, the alzheimers patient or the rich little old white guy with baggage. I don't think the phoney squaw is gonna make it much longer. She's really already gone if you look at the numbers.

 

[flacaltenn]

There's been a really strange complete silence from the left discussing THEIR choices.. That can only mean one thing.. That they CANT get excited about any of them...

Thanks for putting them on the spot...

Yeah, gotta agree. Dems are at least partially screwed and it's partly their fault. Time to stop the wholly WHITE Iowa and New Hampshire from going first, along with ALL undemocratic clusterfuck caucuses.

These early races also OVER-emphasize the Dem party support for radical socialist rhetoric.. The numbers voting for Bernie, when you work the math are ONLY about 20% of the people of the people who WILL vote.. In fact, we're at that cross-over point where the MAJORITY of folks don't identify with either "brand name party"..

The other squirrely detail about early primaries is that there are NO (IIRC) "open primaries"... So what you're gonna see on Super Tuesday is a WAVE of "bored Repubs" choosing to vote in the DEM PRIMARY and REALLY warp the fuck out of the results... They KNOW Trump is uncontested, so they will monkey wrench the Dem primary results...

This should NEVER happen.. Primaries SHOULD BE "party functions" for those who IDENTIFY with those parties... But the states have turned this into a very UNpredictive free for all....

Wow, I love how mature the right-wing is. I don't care if someone crosses party lines to vote for the candidate they think is best, but wingers seem to have a hard on about voting for the worst candidate just to "fuck out the results".. I know this may happen, but it is a disgrace to our Republic that so many act this way,.

When the parties KNOW y'all vote for "winners" even if they have 1/2 a brain left or are COMPLETELY unlikeable, what you just said APPLIES FULLY to both of the battling clans.. Not JUST Repubs...

The parties will offer bad and "worser" choices and y'all will STILL FIGHT over them... Time for America to have an intervention and start asking for INDEPENDENT candidates as VIABLE choices on the ballot...

I don't disagree. You are right it does apply to both parties and both parties are guilty of the same stupidity. I just hate it when I hear that certain people want to vote for the sake of mucking up the other side. IOf course it can backfire. I am sure there were a few Democrats that crossed over to vote Trump and now rue that day. The same may very well apply to Sanders. Be careful for what you wish for.

It's NOT THEIR FAULT that they CAN vote for the other side.. We need to RESTRAIN the states from mucking with party primaries... I've been more focused on ballot access issues and election LAWS than I ever have been on the candidates.. It's getting worse.. It needs reform...

 

[task0778]

At some point the rest of the story about Joe and Hunter Biden in Ukraine is going to surface, maybe with some other high-profile Dems included.. Much will be made of Joe's unethical conduct (which he was repeatedly warned about BTW), and he gonna look like shit. More than he already does. So if this stuff comes out prior to the Dem convention then he's toast. Could the DNC give it to some 3rd person at that late date, like maybe HRC? I dunno, just spit-balling here, but they really don't want Sanders as their guy IMHO. Throw in the indictments that'll be coming from the Durham investigation and others, and we have a recipe for a Dem meltdown. I'm really looking forward to a Trump-Sanders debate. Gonna be one hell of an election year.

 

[JGalt]

Uncle Joe please with a really GREAT Veep pick. ABB - Anybody But Bernie .. the Putin propped socialist.

Bernie is the only chance you all have of taking the Senate back. Biden is not bringing out any new voters, there is nobody on the planet excited by the prospect of Biden.

How is Bernie the "only chance" of taking the Senate back? The Democrats took the House in 2018 with the help of Bloomberg money, and look what a clusterfuck that's been: AOC, Ilhan, Tlaib, Pelosi, and the rest of those crazies have caused the most disorganized and unproductive House this country has ever had.

So you're saying that people are actually going to vote for more leftist lunatic Senators because of Bernie? Do you really think the majority of American people are behind what those wacko leftists want to do to this country?

That's as crazy as thinking Sanders even has a chance of winning.

 

[DrLove]

Looks like Trump's projected DNC winning Biden is still in the running. The rest are cooked. Pick your guy....

There's been a really strange complete silence from the left discussing THEIR choices.. That can only mean one thing.. That they CANT get excited about any of them...

Thanks for putting them on the spot...

Yeah, gotta agree. Dems are at least partially screwed and it's partly their fault. Time to stop the wholly WHITE Iowa and New Hampshire from going first, along with ALL undemocratic clusterfuck caucuses.

These early races also OVER-emphasize the Dem party support for radical socialist rhetoric.. The numbers voting for Bernie, when you work the math are ONLY about 20% of the people of the people who WILL vote.. In fact, we're at that cross-over point where the MAJORITY of folks don't identify with either "brand name party"..

The other squirrely detail about early primaries is that there are NO (IIRC) "open primaries"... So what you're gonna see on Super Tuesday is a WAVE of "bored Repubs" choosing to vote in the DEM PRIMARY and REALLY warp the fuck out of the results... They KNOW Trump is uncontested, so they will monkey wrench the Dem primary results...

This should NEVER happen.. Primaries SHOULD BE "party functions" for those who IDENTIFY with those parties... But the states have turned this into a very UNpredictive free for all....

This business of allowing Republicans to vote in Dem primaries is yet another way Dems have F'd up bigly. Republicans don't play that game in most states. And of course we have not only Rushbo, but the President of the United States encouraging such behavior. Sad

Nobody HAS TO encourage it.. Folks who vote are gonna vote.. If they ASK YOU TO CHOOSE A BALLOT you want to vote on, even if they HAVEN'T gotten the "game cheat" from the media -- they would figure it out...

Got to get the STATES out of Federal primaries... The WORST OFFENDED is the socialist union of California.. Where they OUTLAWED anyone but the "Top 2" primary winners from EVEN BEING on the ballot in November there.. That's fucking criminal...

And another primary piece of evidence that YOUR PARTY WINS the "party of disenfranchisement" trophy with blow out scoring...

Mostly agree. Dems have a horrible habit of F-ing things up. Caucuses must be relegated to the dustbin of history. And what's with this business of insisting that a candidate has to reach 15% to get a single delegate? You get 14% and you get NOTHING - Thus ensuring Bernie wins?

Big down ballot consequences of Bernie are huge. Right now, Nate Silver has the Senate totally in play. I think that could be tossed with Bernie at the top of the ticket. Somehow, D's need to get this crap sorted out - QUICKLY. No easy task without pissing off the Berners.

Will was right - Which is why I left the party and became an Independent.

 

[flacaltenn]

Here's my projection... Bookmark it.. If it comes down to Biden/Sanders at the convention, NO ONE is gonna believe a VP pick will save either one.. So if neither has a clear 1st vote majority ------

You're "voter disenfranchising -- super party loyal" Super Delegates are gonna become unbound and a NEW face will SUDDENLY APPEAR in the following rounds of voting.. And if the party COMMANDS IT --- most of those super delegates will follow... They EACH represent about 70,000 "human" votes....

MAYBE someone LIKE Duvall Patrick that Obama or Clinton is pushing... Save some Corona Virus survival supplies for THOSE fun evenings....

 

[Billiejeens]

Uncle Joe please with a really GREAT Veep pick. ABB - Anybody But Bernie .. the Putin propped socialist.

Bernie is the only chance you all have of taking the Senate back. Biden is not bringing out any new voters, there is nobody on the planet excited by the prospect of Biden.

How is Bernie the "only chance" of taking the Senate back? The Democrats took the House in 2018 with the help of Bloomberg money, and look what a clusterfuck that's been: AOC, Ilhan, Tlaib, Pelosi, and the rest of those crazies have caused the most disorganized and unproductive House this country has ever had.

So you're saying that people are actually going to vote for more leftist lunatic Senators because of Bernie? Do you really think the majority of American people are behind what those wacko leftists want to do to this country?

That's as crazy as thinking Sanders even has a chance of winning.

Bloomberg actually admitted that he bought those seats.
He may have to fight soros for the credit, or discredit in the end.

 

[DrLove]

There's been a really strange complete silence from the left discussing THEIR choices.. That can only mean one thing.. That they CANT get excited about any of them...

Thanks for putting them on the spot...

Yeah, gotta agree. Dems are at least partially screwed and it's partly their fault. Time to stop the wholly WHITE Iowa and New Hampshire from going first, along with ALL undemocratic clusterfuck caucuses.

These early races also OVER-emphasize the Dem party support for radical socialist rhetoric.. The numbers voting for Bernie, when you work the math are ONLY about 20% of the people of the people who WILL vote.. In fact, we're at that cross-over point where the MAJORITY of folks don't identify with either "brand name party"..

The other squirrely detail about early primaries is that there are NO (IIRC) "open primaries"... So what you're gonna see on Super Tuesday is a WAVE of "bored Repubs" choosing to vote in the DEM PRIMARY and REALLY warp the fuck out of the results... They KNOW Trump is uncontested, so they will monkey wrench the Dem primary results...

This should NEVER happen.. Primaries SHOULD BE "party functions" for those who IDENTIFY with those parties... But the states have turned this into a very UNpredictive free for all....

Wow, I love how mature the right-wing is. I don't care if someone crosses party lines to vote for the candidate they think is best, but wingers seem to have a hard on about voting for the worst candidate just to "fuck out the results".. I know this may happen, but it is a disgrace to our Republic that so many act this way,.

When the parties KNOW y'all vote for "winners" even if they have 1/2 a brain left or are COMPLETELY unlikeable, what you just said APPLIES FULLY to both of the battling clans.. Not JUST Repubs...

The parties will offer bad and "worser" choices and y'all will STILL FIGHT over them... Time for America to have an intervention and start asking for INDEPENDENT candidates as VIABLE choices on the ballot...

I don't disagree. You are right it does apply to both parties and both parties are guilty of the same stupidity. I just hate it when I hear that certain people want to vote for the sake of mucking up the other side. IOf course it can backfire. I am sure there were a few Democrats that crossed over to vote Trump and now rue that day. The same may very well apply to Sanders. Be careful for what you wish for.

Thank you for the little ray of bitter sunshine

 

[georgephillip]

leftists are progressives.. They are not liberals because these critters are focused on achieving and maintaining power -- NOT PRINCIPLES.. And I haven't seen Biden do ANYTHING BUT, reverse himself on ANY principles he ever voted for or believed in..

Joe Biden is a " New Democrat" in the mold of Clinton and Obama.

He's supported fiscal conservatism and neoliberal economic polices like NAFTA that have been responsible for millions of middle-class jobs leaving America. During his time in the Senate he was known as the Senator from DuPont.

That should tell you he's as corporate as it gets and he only appears progessive when compared to a fascist like Trump.

 

[22lcidw]

To know how bad the 2020 Democratic candidate is, the Progs have to choose Joe Biden. Biden has to much baggage. And that is to start. He had to be pushed into this. To take this crap.

 

[georgephillip]

Because he raised his hand when asked if crossing the border illegally should be decriminalized????

Most rational human beings support that policy

Poll: Plurality backs criminal prosecutions for illegal border crossings

 

[flacaltenn]

Mostly agree. Dems have a horrible habit of F-ing things up. Caucuses must be relegated to the dustbin of history.

That's an understandment.. They can't wear socks with all them holes in their feet... Like DEMANDING Mueller testify only to find out he's NOT involved much at all with the report or it's conclusions... I WAS feeling bad for the Dems that day...

But seriously, caucuses are CLOSER to what's needed.. It's just that the Dems have problems adding and counting to 700,000.... and making up shit as they go along with their "liquid rules"....

 

[Billiejeens]

Here's my projection... Bookmark it.. If it comes down to Biden/Sanders at the convention, NO ONE is gonna believe a VP pick will save either one.. So if neither has a clear 1st vote majority ------

You're "voter disenfranchising -- super party loyal" Super Delegates are gonna become unbound and a NEW face will SUDDENLY APPEAR in the following rounds of voting.. And if the party COMMANDS IT --- most of those super delegates will follow... They EACH represent about 70,000 "human" votes....

MAYBE someone LIKE Duvall Patrick that Obama or Clinton is pushing... Save some Corona Virus survival supplies for THOSE fun evenings....

Not sure about this Patrick obsession
The USA will not go black again for a generation
Though it wouldn't be all bad. The half black guy lost over a thousand elected seats on his watch, how much damage would a full black do?

 

[bluzman61]

leftists are progressives.. They are not liberals because these critters are focused on achieving and maintaining power -- NOT PRINCIPLES.. And I haven't seen Biden do ANYTHING BUT, reverse himself on ANY principles he ever voted for or believed in..

Joe Biden is a " New Democrat" in the mold of Clinton and Obama.

He's supported fiscal conservatism and neoliberal economic polices like NAFTA that have been responsible for millions of middle-class jobs leaving America. During his time in the Senate he was known as the Senator from DuPont.

That should tell you he's as corporate as it gets and he only appears progessive when compared to a fascist like Trump.

Thanks for showing us yet AGAIN that you're an idiot. Well done! And I noticed that like the other libtards that have replied to this thread, you didn't pick one of the two choices. Dreadful.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Uncle Joe please with a really GREAT Veep pick. ABB - Anybody But Bernie .. the Putin propped socialist.

Bernie is the only chance you all have of taking the Senate back. Biden is not bringing out any new voters, there is nobody on the planet excited by the prospect of Biden.

How is Bernie the "only chance" of taking the Senate back? The Democrats took the House in 2018 with the help of Bloomberg money, and look what a clusterfuck that's been: AOC, Ilhan, Tlaib, Pelosi, and the rest of those crazies have caused the most disorganized and unproductive House this country has ever had.

So you're saying that people are actually going to vote for more leftist lunatic Senators because of Bernie? Do you really think the majority of American people are behind what those wacko leftists want to do to this country?

That's as crazy as thinking Sanders even has a chance of winning.

I am saying that Brenie has a following every bit as energized as Trump's, if not more so. He will bring out people that have not voted before, both old and most especially the young. That will help the down ballot people.

Biden bring nothing but boring and "same old same old".

The majority of the country is not behind anyone or anything.

 

[flacaltenn]

leftists are progressives.. They are not liberals because these critters are focused on achieving and maintaining power -- NOT PRINCIPLES.. And I haven't seen Biden do ANYTHING BUT, reverse himself on ANY principles he ever voted for or believed in..

Joe Biden is a " New Democrat" in the mold of Clinton and Obama.

He's supported fiscal conservatism and neoliberal economic polices like NAFTA that have been responsible for millions of middle-class jobs leaving America. During his time in the Senate he was known as the Senator from DuPont.

That should tell you he's as corporate as it gets and he only appears progessive when compared to a fascist like Trump.

No malarkey George????

A NEW Dem?? Or just a recycled "Golden Oldie" compilation set you can buy frrom QVC????

 

[DrLove]

To know how bad the 2020 Democratic candidate is, the Progs have to choose Joe Biden. Biden has to much baggage. And that is to start. He had to be pushed into this. To take this crap.

If baggage was a factor, then Donald wouldn't be president. Just sayin'

 

[DrLove]

Uncle Joe please with a really GREAT Veep pick. ABB - Anybody But Bernie .. the Putin propped socialist.

Bernie is the only chance you all have of taking the Senate back. Biden is not bringing out any new voters, there is nobody on the planet excited by the prospect of Biden.

How is Bernie the "only chance" of taking the Senate back? The Democrats took the House in 2018 with the help of Bloomberg money, and look what a clusterfuck that's been: AOC, Ilhan, Tlaib, Pelosi, and the rest of those crazies have caused the most disorganized and unproductive House this country has ever had.

So you're saying that people are actually going to vote for more leftist lunatic Senators because of Bernie? Do you really think the majority of American people are behind what those wacko leftists want to do to this country?

That's as crazy as thinking Sanders even has a chance of winning.

I am saying that Brenie has a following every bit as energized as Trump's, if not more so. He will bring out people that have not voted before, both old and most especially the young. That will help the down ballot people.

Biden bring nothing but boring and "same old same old".

The majority of the country is not behind anyone or anything.

Valid points worthy of more than a ponder.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

Because he raised his hand when asked if crossing the border illegally should be decriminalized????

Most rational human beings support that policy

Poll: Plurality backs criminal prosecutions for illegal border crossings

So we can conclude the door to your place remains open for anyone who cares to use it. They don't have to leave, because it's just a civil violation. Rational?

 

[JGalt]

Uncle Joe please with a really GREAT Veep pick. ABB - Anybody But Bernie .. the Putin propped socialist.

Bernie is the only chance you all have of taking the Senate back. Biden is not bringing out any new voters, there is nobody on the planet excited by the prospect of Biden.

How is Bernie the "only chance" of taking the Senate back? The Democrats took the House in 2018 with the help of Bloomberg money, and look what a clusterfuck that's been: AOC, Ilhan, Tlaib, Pelosi, and the rest of those crazies have caused the most disorganized and unproductive House this country has ever had.

So you're saying that people are actually going to vote for more leftist lunatic Senators because of Bernie? Do you really think the majority of American people are behind what those wacko leftists want to do to this country?

That's as crazy as thinking Sanders even has a chance of winning.

I am saying that Brenie has a following every bit as energized as Trump's, if not more so. He will bring out people that have not voted before, both old and most especially the young. That will help the down ballot people.

Biden bring nothing but boring and "same old same old".

The majority of the country is not behind anyone or anything.

Bernie has his FreeShit Army cult members, but his rallies are nowhere as big as Trump's. There's alot going on behind the scenes in the DNC that we don't know but one sure thing you can bet on, they're doing everything they can to keep Sanders out of the race.

My bet is that Biden will be the pick. Too many moderate Democrats see him as the second coming of Obama while at the same time, are old enough to know what socialism is.