You may ask "Which Universe Am I In?"

[BackAgain]

They

It is simpler.

Much like the dainty, itself.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Speaking of universes, Ding, what do think of this quote from “Person of Interest”?

- That man has spent everyday of his life believing that there is actually some sort of higher plan. Thats the problem with humans. They just sit around hoping that someone will fix things. But no one will. No one cares. The universe is infinite, chaotic and cold. And there has never been a plan.​

 

[ding]

Speaking of universes, Ding, what do think of this quote from “Person of Interest”?

- That man has spent everyday of his life believing that there is actually some sort of higher plan. Thats the problem with humans. They just sit around hoping that someone will fix things. But no one will. No one cares. The universe is infinite, chaotic and cold. And there has never been a plan.​

I think he sounds like someone who has been defeated by the complexities of life.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

I think he sounds like someone who has been defeated by the complexities of life.

I didn’t mean for it to be personal. Merely a statement on reality.

Here’s another one:

“Schrodinger said at its base level, the universe isn't made up of physical matter, but just shapes. A shape, you know? Nothing firm. What it means is the real world is essentially a simulation anyway. I like that idea. That even if we're not real, we represent a dynamic. A tiny finger tracing a line in the infinite. A shape. And then we're gone. Listen, all I’m saying is that if we're just information, just noise in the system... we might as well be a symphony.”​

 

[ding]

I didn’t mean for it to be personal. Merely a statement on reality.

Here’s another one:

“Schrodinger said at its base level, the universe isn't made up of physical matter, but just shapes. A shape, you know? Nothing firm. What it means is the real world is essentially a simulation anyway. I like that idea. That even if we're not real, we represent a dynamic. A tiny finger tracing a line in the infinite. A shape. And then we're gone. Listen, all I’m saying is that if we're just information, just noise in the system... we might as well be a symphony.”​

I understand, but that's what it sounded like to me. Someone who was defeated by life. I wasn't trying to make it personal either.

I do believe everything is information but I don't think it's a computer simulation though.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

but I don't think it's a computer simulation though.

I’ve sometimes wondered about that. Or a Truman Show type scenario.

 

[ding]

I’ve sometimes wondered about that. Or a Truman Show type scenario.

Both are good analogies. The truth is stranger than fiction.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Both are good analogies. The truth is stranger than fiction.

There’s a CS Lewis quote about the nature of G-d l’m trying to find. But don’t have time, have to rush off.

 

[ding]

There’s a CS Lewis quote about the nature of G-d l’m trying to find. But don’t have time, have to rush off.

If it's the one I am thinking about it's how the Christian view is God is more like Mind.

 

[Dante]

one can skip posts in between these two

Being didactic and a loner, I never did learn to know all the names of all things I was interested in.

So maybe in your genius, you can fill in the blanks _________? :

Richard Feynman - The World from another point of view

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the ultimate constituents of the world in this search Fineman[sic] is a celebrated Maverick who was encouraged by his father a New York Clothing salesman to confront conventional wisdom

"One Sunday all the kids were all walking in little parties with their fathers in the woods. Then the next Monday we were playing in a field, and the kid said to me say what's that bird, what's the name of - do you know the name of that bird? I says I have the slightest idea. He said well it's a brown throated thrush. He says your father doesn't teach you anything, but my father had already taught me about the names of birds.

He once, we walked and he says that's a brown Throated of thrush. He says know what the name of that bird, it's a brown Throated of thrush, in German it's called a Braunkehldrossel, in Chinese it's called A Zōng hóu huàméi, in Japanese a Chairo no nodotsugumi and so on, and it - when you know all the names in every language of that bird you know nothing, but absolutely nothing about the bird. Then we would go on and talk about the pecking and the feathers.

So I had learned already that names don't constitute knowledge, if knowing the name of something -- that's caused me a certain trouble since, because I refuse to learn the name of anything. So when someone comes in and says uh you got any explanation for the F__________ experiment, I says what, what what's that? He says you know that the long lived __________ disintegrates into two _________. Oh, oh yes now. I know but I never know the names of things. What he forgot to tell me was that the knowing the names of things is useful if you want to talk to somebody else, so you tell them what you're talking about.

But the basic principle of knowing about something rather than just knowing its name is something that you stuck to is it?

Yes of course it's you have to learn these are kind of disciplines in the field of science that you have to learn that to know when you know and when you don't know and what it is you know and what it is you don't know and it's uh you got to be very careful not to confuse yourself."

https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/back-to-leon-lederman-and-the-invisible-soccer-ball.1120551/

 

[Dante]

Being a stalker never gets old for the dainty. Born a hapless troll, he/she/it never moved on.

see below:

https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/back-to-leon-lederman-and-the-invisible-soccer-ball.1120551/#post-35154360

 

[BackAgain]

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see below:

https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/back-to-leon-lederman-and-the-invisible-soccer-ball.1120551/#post-35154360

The dainty cannot help but troll and post off topic even in its own thread.

The OCD he displays is matched only by its narcissism and fundamental dishonesty.

At the risk of compelling the troll boi, the dainty, to post on topic in his own shit thread:

The fact that some quantum physicists speculate that we might be just a tiny part of an even more unimaginably massive multiverse does not mean that there IS any other universe.

So the thread headline is kind of silly.

 

[Dante]

The dainty cannot help but troll and post off topic even in its own thread.

The OCD he displays is matched only by its narcissism and fundamental dishonesty.

At the risk of compelling the troll boi, the dainty, to post on topic in his own shit thread:

The fact that some quantum physicists speculate that we might be just a tiny part of an even more unimaginably massive multiverse does not mean that there IS any other universe.

So the thread headline is kind of silly.

BA appears on cue:

It's like being on the old piers, using a drop line fishing for the bottom feeding flounders.

 

[BackAgain]

BA appears on cue:

It's like being on the old piers, using a drop line fishing for the bottom feeding flounders.

Can’t handle any pressure at all. Poor the dainty. Flails and flops and always fails.

Care to get back on topic now, troll boi, the dainty?

 

[scruffy]

“Schrodinger said at its base level, the universe isn't made up of physical matter, but just shapes. A shape, you know? Nothing firm..”​

Schrodinger said a lot of stupid stuff. Like a cat can be both alive and dead. How stupid is that?

That's just fucking dumb.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Like a cat can be both alive and dead. How stupid is that?

Depends which way you look at it.

Lots of humans like that.

 

[scruffy]

Depends which way you look at it.

Lots of humans like that.

Both alive and dead?

You mean like Wisconsin voters?

(snicker)

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Both alive and dead?

You mean like Wisconsin voters?

(snicker)

They’ve got a good music scene going on there. In Madison.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

According to e=mc^2 it would take the energy of 2 billion of our universes to produce it.

I never heard of or realized that!

 

[ding]

I never heard of or realized that!

See the bolded section but Wald's entire discussion is worth reading (see the link below for the full text). He's a Nobel Laureate.

"There is good reason to believe that we are in a universe permeated with life, in which life arises, given enough time, wherever the conditions exist that make it possible. How many such places are there? Arthur Eddington, the great British physicist, gave us a formula: one hundred billion stars make a galaxy, and one hundred billion galaxies make a universe. The lowest estimate I have ever seen of the fraction of them that might possess a planet that could support life is one percent. That means one billion such places in our home galaxy, the Milky Way; and with about one billion such galaxies within reach of our telescopes, the already observed universe should contain at least one billion billion -- 1018 -- places that can support life

So we can take this to be a universe that breeds life; and yet, were any one of a considerable number of physical properties of our universe other than it is -- some of those properties basic, others seeming trivial, almost accidental -- that life, that now appears to be so prevalent, would become impossible, here or anywhere.

I can only sample that story here and, to give this account a little structure, I shall climb the scale of states of organization of matter, from small to great.

But first, a preliminary question: How is it that we have a universe of matter at all?

Our universe is made of four kinds of so-called elementary particles: neutrons, protons, electrons, and photons, which are particles of radiation. (I disregard neutrinos, since they do not interact with other matter; also the host of other particles that appear transiently in the course of high‑energy nuclear interactions.) The only important qualification one need make to such a simple statement is that the first three particles exist also as antiparticles, the particles constituting matter, the anti-particles anti-matter. When matter comes into contact with anti-matter they mutually annihilate each other, and their masses are instantly turned into radiation according to Einstein’s famous equation, E = mc2, in which E is the energy of the radiation, m is the annihilated mass, and c is the speed of light.

The positive and negative electric charges that divide particles from anti-particles are perfectly symmetrical. So the most reasonable expectation is that exactly equal numbers of both particles and anti-particles entered the Big Bang, the cosmic explosion in which our universe is thought to have begun. In that case, however, in the enormous compression of material at the Big Bang, there must have occurred a tremendous storm of mutual annihilation, ending with the conversion of all the particles and anti-particles into radiation. We should have come out of the Big Bang with a universe containing only radiation.

Fortunately for us, it seems that a tiny mistake was made. In 1965, Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson at the Bell Telephone Laboratories in New Jersey discovered a new microwave radiation that fills the universe, coming equally from all directions, wherever one may be. It is by far the dominant radiation in the universe; billions of years of starlight have added to it only negligibly. It is commonly agreed that this is the residue remaining from that gigantic firestorm of mutual annihilation in the Big Bang.

It turns out that there are about one billion photons of that radiation for every proton in the universe. Hence it is thought that what went into the Big Bang were not exactly equal numbers of particles and anti-particles, but that for every billion anti-particles there were one billion and one particles, so that when all the mutual annihilation had happened, there remained over that one particle per billion, and that now contitutes all the matter in the universe -- all the galaxies, the stars and planets, and of course all life..."

George Wald: Life and Mind in the Universe

elijahwald.com