You Don't Own Me

[Dr Grump]

Women constitute more than half of the population. In 2008, 60% of voters were women. It is estimated that 10 million more women than men will vote in this election. Despite this, women make up only 16% of Congress. Women earn only 70 cents to each dollar men make. Women of color and undocumented women make less than white citizens. Mitt Romney and the Republican Party are determined to overturn Roe V. Wade. Romney has not supported equal pay for women (The Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act). Romney has vowed to defund Planned Parenthood. Romney has vowed to repeal the Affordable Care Act. Romney doesn't want health care to cover birth control. Romney says same sex marriage should be banned with a Constitutional Amendment.

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There is now way, no how, health care should cover birth control...no way at all..

 

[jillian]

Women constitute more than half of the population. In 2008, 60% of voters were women. It is estimated that 10 million more women than men will vote in this election. Despite this, women make up only 16% of Congress. Women earn only 70 cents to each dollar men make. Women of color and undocumented women make less than white citizens. Mitt Romney and the Republican Party are determined to overturn Roe V. Wade. Romney has not supported equal pay for women (The Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act). Romney has vowed to defund Planned Parenthood. Romney has vowed to repeal the Affordable Care Act. Romney doesn't want health care to cover birth control. Romney says same sex marriage should be banned with a Constitutional Amendment.

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There is now way, no how, health care should cover birth control...no way at all..

i've had a prescription for birth control my whole life... for medical reasons. why shouldn't my insurance policy cover that.

policies cover viagra. why would we not as a society want birth control to be affordable?

 

[Dr Grump]

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There is now way, no how, health care should cover birth control...no way at all..

i've had a prescription for birth control my whole life... for medical reasons. why shouldn't my insurance policy cover that.

policies cover viagra. why would we not as a society want birth control to be affordable?

If the pill is for medical reasons, then no problems. For birth control? Your problem.

If the viagra is prescribed for what it was originally intended for, no problem. If it is prescribed for a never-ending woodie, your problem.

See, the way I see it, despite the plethora of frigid men and women (like the uber religious right) on this board, I think sex should be for fun and not just procreation. I also like reading books and going to the movies for leisure. Can I put them on my health care, too?

You wanna have fun? Pay for it. Don't increase my premiums for your leisure activities...

 

[buckeye45_73]

Wasn't that a Supreme Court thang?

It's not like Republicans will snap their fingers and *poof* it's gone.

Relax.

really? two rightie justices won't overturn roe?

coulda fooled me.

the GOP has been using our courts to pay back the religious right for their support since reagan.

No they are there to correct the craziness from the 60s-70s wackos...that made life alot easier for criminals, and for women to kill their children, just cuz.......

 

[buckeye45_73]

"You Don't Own Me" PSA on Vimeo

There is now way, no how, health care should cover birth control...no way at all..

i've had a prescription for birth control my whole life... for medical reasons. why shouldn't my insurance policy cover that.

policies cover viagra. why would we not as a society want birth control to be affordable?

Jillian.....no one is arguing that, Viagra and birth control should be available for life issues, not sex ones......just get a prior authorization, that people who use humira get......and if you need it to party....NO....if you need Viagra for heart conditions or birth control for endometriosis...then YES.....how is this difficult to figure out....pleasure should be on YOUR dime....not MINE

 

[RetiredGySgt]

really? two rightie justices won't overturn roe?

coulda fooled me.

the GOP has been using our courts to pay back the religious right for their support since reagan.

Which laws have the SCOTUS created on behalf of the "religious right," Rosie?

None. But she will just ignore you.

 

[jillian]

There is now way, no how, health care should cover birth control...no way at all..

i've had a prescription for birth control my whole life... for medical reasons. why shouldn't my insurance policy cover that.

policies cover viagra. why would we not as a society want birth control to be affordable?

If the pill is for medical reasons, then no problems. For birth control? Your problem.

If the viagra is prescribed for what it was originally intended for, no problem. If it is prescribed for a never-ending woodie, your problem.

See, the way I see it, despite the plethora of frigid men and women (like the uber religious right) on this board, I think sex should be for fun and not just procreation. I also like reading books and going to the movies for leisure. Can I put them on my health care, too?

You wanna have fun? Pay for it. Don't increase my premiums for your leisure activities...

if they don't want it to be covered by insurance, it should be over the counter. you don't need a doctor to write a prescription for the movies.

again, they pay for viagra. and if an insurance company covers prescriptions they should cover all prescriptions.

to be fair, there's also a societal interest in people using birth control. and maybe someone like me can afford the monthly fee (although frankly, my insrance policy costs so much that it covering any and all scripts shouldn't be an issue)... but someone who doesn't have much money can't necessarily afford it. should a person who can afford least to have an unwanted child, not be able to get birth control? and what is better for society? insurance companies doing their job and covering scripts? or us paying for the care of unwanted children?

and remember... the people pushing these things are the very ones who want abortion to be illegal.

just because sex can and should be recreational doesn't make take birth control out of the realm of the medical.

i also note you didn't respond to the issue of viagra being covered.

oh...and insurance companies do, in fact, cover birth control now. the righties want to change that. no one ever complained about it. and insurance companies have the second largest profits of any industry after the oil industry.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Yes and the right are the ones who claim judicial activism by the left.
They are the party of projectionism.

There is more judicial activism from the left than the right.

the two worst cases of judicial activism that i know of were bush v gore and citizen's united.

so you were saying?

Well you must really not like those libs on the Supreme Court since the DECISION that Bush was right was 7 to 2.

 

[jillian]

There is more judicial activism from the left than the right.

the two worst cases of judicial activism that i know of were bush v gore and citizen's united.

so you were saying?

Well you must really not like those libs on the Supreme Court since the DECISION that Bush was right was 7 to 2.

not on the part that mattered. and you know it.

but thanks for perpetuating a fallacy.

 

[Mad Scientist]

I heard when Romney gets elected, he's gonna' repeal womans sufferage via Executive Order. That's in addition to his previous pledge to outlaw tampons.

 

[Si modo]

Spam, spam, spam, spam, spam .....

SPAM.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

undocumented women make less than white citizens

Well thank God we are doing something right! I can't believe someone is actually bitching that illegal aliens don't make as much as US citizens! Holy shit!


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That one is undocumented doesn’t mean he’s ‘illegal,’ many are authorized to work in the United States who have not yet received documentation, such as refugees and aslyees:

If you are granted asylum, you are authorized to work in the United States whether or not you have an Employment Authorization Document (EAD).

USCIS - Benefits and Responsibilities of Asylees

Many employers are ignorant of this fact and often refuse to hire or pay appropriately these undocumented workers.

And in general, undocumented immigrants are entitled to due process and equal protection rights per the 14th Amendment, they are thus presumed innocent of being in the country illegally until that is determined in a court of law.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

really? two rightie justices won't overturn roe?

coulda fooled me.

the GOP has been using our courts to pay back the religious right for their support since reagan.

the chance to appoint right wing supreme court justices is a main reason many are voting for Romney.
Preachers are preaching it.

btw at one time not so many years ago it was determined that women in the USA controlled more money than men did.

and that is the main reason i won't vote for a republican on a federal level.

Understandable.

Republicans, for the most part, have exhibited hostility to privacy rights concerning abortion and contraception, hostility to equal protection rights with regard to same-sex couples’ access to marriage laws, and hostility toward immigrants with regard to their due process rights concerning documentation, work status, and employment compensation.

A Romney administration would indeed appoint judges to the Federal courts, and justices to the High Court, just as hostile to our individual liberties.

 

[bodecea]

Jillie, seriously, what nonsense. If that were true you wouldn't have said rightwing men want to rule your vagina.

I mean, is that legal terminology..or is that you having a tantrum? Cuz it sounds a lot like what you are saying is "only I get to indulge in snotty rhetoric".

So why do you think leftwing men are so committed to killing in utero?

Rosie is a mindless, partisan hack. Her guy is losing. That is the only explanation needed.

Standard Disclaimer: I simply can't envision Jillian as anything other than;

This is fun...can we post what we envision you as?

 

[Dr Grump]

i've had a prescription for birth control my whole life... for medical reasons. why shouldn't my insurance policy cover that.

policies cover viagra. why would we not as a society want birth control to be affordable?

If the pill is for medical reasons, then no problems. For birth control? Your problem.

If the viagra is prescribed for what it was originally intended for, no problem. If it is prescribed for a never-ending woodie, your problem.

See, the way I see it, despite the plethora of frigid men and women (like the uber religious right) on this board, I think sex should be for fun and not just procreation. I also like reading books and going to the movies for leisure. Can I put them on my health care, too?

You wanna have fun? Pay for it. Don't increase my premiums for your leisure activities...

if they don't want it to be covered by insurance, it should be over the counter. you don't need a doctor to write a prescription for the movies.

again, they pay for viagra. and if an insurance company covers prescriptions they should cover all prescriptions.

to be fair, there's also a societal interest in people using birth control. and maybe someone like me can afford the monthly fee (although frankly, my insrance policy costs so much that it covering any and all scripts shouldn't be an issue)... but someone who doesn't have much money can't necessarily afford it. should a person who can afford least to have an unwanted child, not be able to get birth control? and what is better for society? insurance companies doing their job and covering scripts? or us paying for the care of unwanted children?

and remember... the people pushing these things are the very ones who want abortion to be illegal.

just because sex can and should be recreational doesn't make take birth control out of the realm of the medical.

i also note you didn't respond to the issue of viagra being covered.

oh...and insurance companies do, in fact, cover birth control now. the righties want to change that. no one ever complained about it. and insurance companies have the second largest profits of any industry after the oil industry.

I did cover viagra (see bolded part)...

Forgetting the politics (ie the people who are pushing this etc), it may be a societal issue, but it is also one of personal responsibility. You shouldn't create a law to cater for the lowest common denominator. We are supposed to live a relatively free society. the more laws and contraints you put on the society the less free it is. Laws that are put in place to cater for the aforementioned lowest common denominator are the worst kind IMO.

So hassle the insurance companies about their profit margins. That is a different argument to putting birth control for pleasure on the taxpayers dime...

 

[jillian]

the chance to appoint right wing supreme court justices is a main reason many are voting for Romney.
Preachers are preaching it.

btw at one time not so many years ago it was determined that women in the USA controlled more money than men did.

and that is the main reason i won't vote for a republican on a federal level.

Understandable.

Republicans, for the most part, have exhibited hostility to privacy rights concerning abortion and contraception, hostility to equal protection rights with regard to same-sex couples’ access to marriage laws, and hostility toward immigrants with regard to their due process rights concerning documentation, work status, and employment compensation.

A Romney administration would indeed appoint judges to the Federal courts, and justices to the High Court, just as hostile to our individual liberties.

he already said he would.

and his history is such that he vetoed a bill while governor which would have mandated access to the morning after pill

 

[HUGGY]

Wasn't that a Supreme Court thang?

It's not like Republicans will snap their fingers and *poof* it's gone.

Relax.

really? two rightie justices won't overturn roe?

coulda fooled me.

the GOP has been using our courts to pay back the religious right for their support since reagan.

If we elect Mittens and he gets a second term you can bank on the "new" supreme court to overturn R v. W.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

There is more judicial activism from the left than the right.

the two worst cases of judicial activism that i know of were bush v gore and citizen's united.

so you were saying?

Well you must really not like those libs on the Supreme Court since the DECISION that Bush was right was 7 to 2.

The ruling was 5 to 4, straight down ideological/partisan lines.

Bush v. Gore | The Oyez Project at IIT Chicago-Kent College of Law

 

[jillian]

If the pill is for medical reasons, then no problems. For birth control? Your problem.

If the viagra is prescribed for what it was originally intended for, no problem. If it is prescribed for a never-ending woodie, your problem.

See, the way I see it, despite the plethora of frigid men and women (like the uber religious right) on this board, I think sex should be for fun and not just procreation. I also like reading books and going to the movies for leisure. Can I put them on my health care, too?

You wanna have fun? Pay for it. Don't increase my premiums for your leisure activities...

if they don't want it to be covered by insurance, it should be over the counter. you don't need a doctor to write a prescription for the movies.

again, they pay for viagra. and if an insurance company covers prescriptions they should cover all prescriptions.

to be fair, there's also a societal interest in people using birth control. and maybe someone like me can afford the monthly fee (although frankly, my insrance policy costs so much that it covering any and all scripts shouldn't be an issue)... but someone who doesn't have much money can't necessarily afford it. should a person who can afford least to have an unwanted child, not be able to get birth control? and what is better for society? insurance companies doing their job and covering scripts? or us paying for the care of unwanted children?

and remember... the people pushing these things are the very ones who want abortion to be illegal.

just because sex can and should be recreational doesn't make take birth control out of the realm of the medical.

i also note you didn't respond to the issue of viagra being covered.

oh...and insurance companies do, in fact, cover birth control now. the righties want to change that. no one ever complained about it. and insurance companies have the second largest profits of any industry after the oil industry.

I did cover viagra (see bolded part)...

Forgetting the politics (ie the poeole who are pushing this etc), it may be a societal issue, but it is also one of personal responsibility. You shouldn't create a law to cater for the lowest common denominator. We are supposed to live a relatively free society. the more laws and contraints you put on the society the less free it is. The more laws that are put in place to cater for the aforementioned lowest common denominator are the worst kind IMO.

So hassle the insurance companies about their profit margins. That is a different argument to putting birth control for pleasure on the taxpayers dime...

sorry.. missed that. basically, it's for recreation. you know rushbo wasn't taking it to procreate.

see, i think the problem is that you're viewing it as we're demanding special consideration.

as i stated, no insurance companies complained about covering birth control pills. this isn't government paying for it with our tax dollars. it's paid for insurance benefits.

it's the rightwingnut uber radical religious right trying to STOP them from covering contraception... trying to force us to ask permission from our employers to have such insurance (which we've always had).

so it's not that we want something new. they want to take away something we've always had.

 

[kaz]

Women constitute more than half of the population. In 2008, 60% of voters were women. It is estimated that 10 million more women than men will vote in this election. Despite this, women make up only 16% of Congress. Women earn only 70 cents to each dollar men make. Women of color and undocumented women make less than white citizens. Mitt Romney and the Republican Party are determined to overturn Roe V. Wade. Romney has not supported equal pay for women (The Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act). Romney has vowed to defund Planned Parenthood. Romney has vowed to repeal the Affordable Care Act. Romney doesn't want health care to cover birth control. Romney says same sex marriage should be banned with a Constitutional Amendment.

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Once again a good little liberal Chickie Poo runs in and victimizes herself for the good of The Party. How many Obama votes would you need to get you to jump in a pile of cow dung and rub yourself all over in it?