You can't redistribute wealth

[CrusaderFrank]

The reason every Progressive economy is a complete failure no matter the scale is that you cannot redistribute wealth any more than you can redistribute any other ability. You can't give me any of LeBron James basketball ability, you can't give me Steve Vai's guitar playing ability, you can't give me Stephen Ross or Warren Buffett's ability to invest in real estate or businesses; that all belongs to them along with every cent of the million and billions they've each respectively earned.

It's a Fool Errand to take money from the rich and give it to the poor of Spirit and think you've done anyone any good. You've damaged both parties.

You took the efforts of one and gave it to someone who has no idea what he just received and so in almost no time, the receiver will throw the gift away.

The better effort is to teach everyone the meaning of wealth, understand that it's an attitude and approach to life, one that no government can give you because it's something that you must claim for yourself

 

[Agit8r]

I dunno, the northern European countries seem to be doing okay for themselves.

 

[Jughead]

Wealth redistribution is the reason Communist countries like Cuba and North Korea are doing so well (Sarcasm).

 

[expat_panama]

...teach everyone the meaning of wealth, understand that it's an attitude and approach to life...

---while the idea that we can "spread the wealth around" is also an attitude that's the cause of monstrous suffering.

It goes far beyond taking money from the rich. In America the total private wealth tops $77T but most is stuff like real estate and businesses while those total bank deposits are only $9T. Try spreading that $9T around and it crashes the businesses and wrecks the real estate. Spread the wealth around means everyone gets a check for $30K but they starve 'cause all the stores close.

People are diverse so we shouldn't be surprised that there are some folks stupid enough to say "spread the wealth around and we're all better off". What's amazing is that America made one of them president.

 

[oldfart]

The reason every Progressive economy is a complete failure no matter the scale is that you cannot redistribute wealth any more than you can redistribute any other ability. You can't give me any of LeBron James basketball ability, you can't give me Steve Vai's guitar playing ability, you can't give me Stephen Ross or Warren Buffett's ability to invest in real estate or businesses; that all belongs to them along with every cent of the million and billions they've each respectively earned.

It's a Fool Errand to take money from the rich and give it to the poor of Spirit and think you've done anyone any good. You've damaged both parties.

You took the efforts of one and gave it to someone who has no idea what he just received and so in almost no time, the receiver will throw the gift away.

The better effort is to teach everyone the meaning of wealth, understand that it's an attitude and approach to life, one that no government can give you because it's something that you must claim for yourself

I hate to break it to you, but humanitarian motives are about third on the list of reasons to oppose mal-distribution of income and wealth. Number one is to promote economic growth, mal-distribution is the main reason our economy is drifting into permanent stagnation. Number two is political, social, and economic stability. Mal-distribution is the root cause of social unrest and political extremism. Pure altruism is a distant third.

But of course some people would prefer to live in a banana republic garrison state controlled by 400 families and enforced by a repressive military, security, police, intelligence complex with no personal liberties left. They just think they will be part of the 400.

 

[HenryBHough]

The reason every Progressive economy is a complete failure no matter the scale is that you cannot redistribute wealth any more than you can redistribute any other ability. You can't give me any of LeBron James basketball ability, you can't give me Steve Vai's guitar playing ability, you can't give me Stephen Ross or Warren Buffett's ability to invest in real estate or businesses; that all belongs to them along with every cent of the million and billions they've each respectively earned.

Actually you can redistribute ability.

True, you cannot give one person's ability to another. But you CAN produce equality by depriving those with unique abilities of those abilities so they are on a "level playing field" with the "have-nots". For example, make it illegal for LeBron to raise his hands above his waist. Break Ross's fingers and not allow them to be reset properly so he can't hold a pick or even strum. Buffett? A more difficult case but some minor brain surgery should make him equal.

Do you really think that a government big enough to give you everything can't also take everything away......of course fairly, in the interest of equality.

 

[G.T.]

Stupid thread premise.

True, it should not be the intent of the Government to "redistribute wealth;" however, all taxation is a redistribution and so saying "you cant" is just psychobabble.

 

[Immanuel]

Sure you can, Democrats and Republicans have been stealing from the poor/middle class and giving to the rich for decades. Don't tell me you cannot redistribute wealth. They do it quite effectively.

 

[rdean]

You can't redistribute wealth

Sure you can. Republicans did it.

 

[The Rabbi]

I dunno, the northern European countries seem to be doing okay for themselves.

Marked by stagnation, high structural unemployment, low birth rates and a burgeoning Muslim underclass. Yeah, tell us about , Skippy.

 

[The Rabbi]

Stupid thread premise.

True, it should not be the intent of the Government to "redistribute wealth;" however, all taxation is a redistribution and so saying "you cant" is just psychobabble.

All taxation is not redistribution in any meaningful sense. Another gross generalization.

 

[The Rabbi]

The reason every Progressive economy is a complete failure no matter the scale is that you cannot redistribute wealth any more than you can redistribute any other ability. You can't give me any of LeBron James basketball ability, you can't give me Steve Vai's guitar playing ability, you can't give me Stephen Ross or Warren Buffett's ability to invest in real estate or businesses; that all belongs to them along with every cent of the million and billions they've each respectively earned.

It's a Fool Errand to take money from the rich and give it to the poor of Spirit and think you've done anyone any good. You've damaged both parties.

You took the efforts of one and gave it to someone who has no idea what he just received and so in almost no time, the receiver will throw the gift away.

The better effort is to teach everyone the meaning of wealth, understand that it's an attitude and approach to life, one that no government can give you because it's something that you must claim for yourself

I hate to break it to you, but humanitarian motives are about third on the list of reasons to oppose mal-distribution of income and wealth. Number one is to promote economic growth, mal-distribution is the main reason our economy is drifting into permanent stagnation. Number two is political, social, and economic stability. Mal-distribution is the root cause of social unrest and political extremism. Pure altruism is a distant third.

But of course some people would prefer to live in a banana republic garrison state controlled by 400 families and enforced by a repressive military, security, police, intelligence complex with no personal liberties left. They just think they will be part of the 400.

How does taking from talented people and giving to untalented people going to promote economic growth? Oh yeah, the poor tend to spend money so stimulate the economy? Amiright?
Anotehr economic cretin who thinks consumer spending drives the economy.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The reason every Progressive economy is a complete failure no matter the scale is that you cannot redistribute wealth any more than you can redistribute any other ability. You can't give me any of LeBron James basketball ability, you can't give me Steve Vai's guitar playing ability, you can't give me Stephen Ross or Warren Buffett's ability to invest in real estate or businesses; that all belongs to them along with every cent of the million and billions they've each respectively earned.

It's a Fool Errand to take money from the rich and give it to the poor of Spirit and think you've done anyone any good. You've damaged both parties.

You took the efforts of one and gave it to someone who has no idea what he just received and so in almost no time, the receiver will throw the gift away.

The better effort is to teach everyone the meaning of wealth, understand that it's an attitude and approach to life, one that no government can give you because it's something that you must claim for yourself

I hate to break it to you, but humanitarian motives are about third on the list of reasons to oppose mal-distribution of income and wealth. Number one is to promote economic growth, mal-distribution is the main reason our economy is drifting into permanent stagnation. Number two is political, social, and economic stability. Mal-distribution is the root cause of social unrest and political extremism. Pure altruism is a distant third.

But of course some people would prefer to live in a banana republic garrison state controlled by 400 families and enforced by a repressive military, security, police, intelligence complex with no personal liberties left. They just think they will be part of the 400.

Charity is a humanitarian motive; using the power of government to confiscate and redistribute wealth is evil

 

[martybegan]

I dunno, the northern European countries seem to be doing okay for themselves.

They are in the process of breeding themselves out due to stagnation and low birth rates.

 

[martybegan]

Stupid thread premise.

True, it should not be the intent of the Government to "redistribute wealth;" however, all taxation is a redistribution and so saying "you cant" is just psychobabble.

Me paying for fire, sanitation, police, my childrens education and millitrary protection is not redistribution.

Me paying for welfare, handouts, tax cuts and freebies for other people IS redistribution (with the government getting its administrative cut, or course).

 

[JakeStarkey]

You can't redistribute wealth

Go to your market and watch, Frank.

Go to a place of business, a bank, e.g., and watch, Frank.

 

[G.T.]

Then i guess we have different definitions of redistribution.

 

[HelenaHandbag]

The reason every Progressive economy is a complete failure no matter the scale is that you cannot redistribute wealth any more than you can redistribute any other ability. You can't give me any of LeBron James basketball ability, you can't give me Steve Vai's guitar playing ability, you can't give me Stephen Ross or Warren Buffett's ability to invest in real estate or businesses; that all belongs to them along with every cent of the million and billions they've each respectively earned.

It's a Fool Errand to take money from the rich and give it to the poor of Spirit and think you've done anyone any good. You've damaged both parties.

You took the efforts of one and gave it to someone who has no idea what he just received and so in almost no time, the receiver will throw the gift away.

The better effort is to teach everyone the meaning of wealth, understand that it's an attitude and approach to life, one that no government can give you because it's something that you must claim for yourself

I hate to break it to you, but humanitarian motives are about third on the list of reasons to oppose mal-distribution of income and wealth. Number one is to promote economic growth, mal-distribution is the main reason our economy is drifting into permanent stagnation. Number two is political, social, and economic stability. Mal-distribution is the root cause of social unrest and political extremism. Pure altruism is a distant third.

There is nothing humanitarian about taking what belongs to one person and giving it to another, under the duress of the threat of force. If any resources are mal-distributed, it is those that go to the politicians, bureaucrats and tax enforcers who feed first off of the system, before one single scrap goes to the needy.

But of course some people would prefer to live in a banana republic garrison state controlled by 400 families and enforced by a repressive military, security, police, intelligence complex with no personal liberties left. They just think they will be part of the 400.

You just described how every socialist state in history has ended up. Why is it that progressives like you seek to turn America into a banana republic garrison state?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You can't redistribute wealth

Go to your market and watch, Frank.

Go to a place of business, a bank, e.g., and watch, Frank.

Yes, Jake. I'm watching

People doing commerce is NOT Redistribution

 

[regent]

A couple of my Econ 101 textbooks say that one of the functions of government is the redistribution of wealth. Can anyone name a nation that does not have a system for the redistributuion of wealth?