Yet another school shooting

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Seems to me that a lot of people with guns are walking into schools and shooting so not all schools are doing anything to prevent it as you say they are

and how well did those policies work in Parkland or in TX last week?

Don't try telling me every single school has procedures to stop people with guns from entering

And once again .....

You could perhaps create a single entrance with trained ATF personnel and a metal detector at an average cost of probably 20 million per school x 130,000 schools.

I get 2 billion 600 million on retrofits alone plus the cost of 1-2 full time professionals depending on school size.

Ready to stroke that check?

And once again you don't have to do any of that

It doesn't take a trained governemnt monkey to look in a book bag or to have the people entering take off their coats and it's easy enough to designate one entrance no matter how many doors are on a school building you simply tell everyone where to enter and lock all the other doors

Cost $0.00

Try running 4000 kids through one door. Do you want to rebuild schools that have been in existence for 50 years? How much will that cost?

Who is going to man those doors? People cost money.

Why are you constantly doubling down on being a dumbass?

 

[bodecea]

Santa Fe High School shooting: Suspect in custody, assistant principal says - CNN

Details still breaking.

When will this end?

When we get rid of democrat gun free zones, allow armed staff at schools and actually take these shooters seriously, it is already coming out he gave off the traditional warning signs....

Those who put their 2nd A. right before the lives of others are loathsome, hateful, reprehensible and heinous.

And those who put their irrational hate of gun owners before protecting children are vile assholes.....we need to end democrat gun free zones which draw these shooters...we need to arm and train school staff so that these schools are no longer targets...but as long as anti gunners like you need dead children to fool uninformed Americans into giving you power, you will never protect these children.....you need dead children, they are your golden ticket for gun confiscation.

I don't hate you, clearly you are mentally ill. Being so obsessed with guns is not normal and not something all gun owners advertise. As I've written before and will continue to state, the NRA policy on gun control enables mass murder by firearms. That makes it and its supporters culpable for the murders today, the past and the future.

The NRA policy is ireelevant since it has neither the ability nor the authority to pass and uphold any laws whatsoever

$$$$$

 

[Wry Catcher]

I guess we need to ban trench coats. But when we do that, only outlaws will have trench coats!

But you don't seem to have any ideas on how to keep people with rifles and shotguns from walking into a school do you?

I guess of it's not spelled out for you in a lesson plan with step by step instructions you can't do it huh?

Yes, I do know how. Put an armed teacher at the door and stop anyone who looks like they don't belong. At present, the shooter would just pull out a gun and start shooting because nothing that that teacher can do will prevent them from doing so.

All our students at our middle school entered through one door, so anyone older would stick out like a sore thumb!

I just want to know why you think that schools do not have procedures in place and plans on how to react to these active shooter situations after you have been told repeatedly that they do. Columbine was 19 years ago in case you missed it. Are you just stupid or is being an asshole more fun?

Seems to me that a lot of people with guns are walking into schools and shooting so not all schools are doing anything to prevent it as you say they are

and how well did those policies work in Parkland or in TX last week?

Don't try telling me every single school has procedures to stop people with guns from entering

How much will it require to make every school in America a hard target, surrounded by razor wire, equipped with cameras and warning buzzers, single portals with a sally port the only way to enter and exit the walls of a neighborhood school, and in every classroom a steel door, automatically locked when the walls are breached?

How far do we go to protect an archaic 2nd A., which by any measure is the source of mass murder at school, movie theaters, concerts, malls and even military bases?

Common sense has shown prayers and false pathos have proved to be worthless non efforts to come to grips with horrific events which (it has been reported) this year have taken the lives of more kids in schools than deaths in our military service?

Isn't it time for the Congress to review our nation's gun policies, as past members of Congress did after the assassination of JFK, the assassination of MLK and RFK, and the attempt on the life of President Reagan?

In this century alone, we have seen mass murders by gun as the new normal, and even when members of the Republican Party were shot at a ball field, the NRA's hold on that party remains strong.

What is it with you people?

How do you make the gargantuan leap from controlling access and 2 very simple procedures like bag checks and asking people to remove their coats before entering with razor wire, metal detectors and trained G men?

A simple thing such as controlling access to the building needs none of what you describe

And you may think it's archaic to own a firearm for self defense but until you can guarantee that I will never be the victim of a crime I'm going to keep my guns

YOU ALWAYS default to a Straw Man! Why not be honest and admit that I have never been a gun grabber. Why do you lie about this all of the time.? Being a liar does not help your position, it only makes you less credible and your opinions foolish.

One example of this foolish notion, which many do all of the time, is to make the claim "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed", when the fact is laws prevent many types of arms, from small arms to nuclear bombs, to be possessed by "the people".

From Brass knuckles to nunchucks to sawed off shotguns and fully automatic hand and long guns we have seen laws passed and enforced by state legislators and city/county boards of supervisors who outlaw 'arms'. We have seen laws and regulations to restrict some arms, and some require a license to legally own certain arms.

It's time to grow up and support common sense gun regulations and controls. Magical thinking is for young children, and the belief shall not infringe is a fantasy.

 

[MisterBeale]

Santa Fe High School shooting: Suspect in custody, assistant principal says - CNN

Details still breaking.

When will this end?

/----/ when will criminal behavior end? Never.

Yep.... the Disney dwellers sit out there in radioland and think that there is some way we're going to have a day where tragedies don't happen. It's called missing too many memos.

Ah...so we should just get used to it....I agree. School shootings are the new normal in this country. #MAGA!

They have been the norm since we started drugging our kids into zombies that lack the emotion that stops them in the first place.

i do feel there is a huge connection here. in my high school days in the 80s people had shotguns and rifles in their trucks back window on a rack. never an issue.

something in society changed along the way as guns have been a part of it for a long long time.

I was alarmed when I found out that the school actually drugs kids for their parents.

I didn't know this.

When I was raising my son, some of his friends told him that the school would actually administer doses of medicine to them at school . . .

Then, when they didn't like the way my kid was acting at school, they actually wanted his mom and I to start him on their drugs. The STATE creates the problems. Just about all the boys in this neighborhood were being drugged by the school system. Those insane *****. . . . . Usually those drugs lead to starting on anti-depressants, and then, sometimes to bi-polar. . brain chemistry is very tricky, you don't want to mess with it when kids are developing.

Attention Disorder or Not, Pills to Help in School
Attention Disorder or Not, Children Prescribed Pills to Help in School



But it was all bullshit. I did some reading and research, and discovered I needed to improve his diet and make sure he got more exercise. Now he is a straight A student and a starter for the Basketball team. I don't want to tell you what happened to his peers they put on those drugs, let just say, if anyone turned out to be mass shooters in the school system. . . . Just b/c we are poor doesn't mean he needed to be put on drugs.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I guess we need to ban trench coats. But when we do that, only outlaws will have trench coats!

But you don't seem to have any ideas on how to keep people with rifles and shotguns from walking into a school do you?

I guess of it's not spelled out for you in a lesson plan with step by step instructions you can't do it huh?

Yes, I do know how. Put an armed teacher at the door and stop anyone who looks like they don't belong. At present, the shooter would just pull out a gun and start shooting because nothing that that teacher can do will prevent them from doing so.

All our students at our middle school entered through one door, so anyone older would stick out like a sore thumb!

I just want to know why you think that schools do not have procedures in place and plans on how to react to these active shooter situations after you have been told repeatedly that they do. Columbine was 19 years ago in case you missed it. Are you just stupid or is being an asshole more fun?

Seems to me that a lot of people with guns are walking into schools and shooting so not all schools are doing anything to prevent it as you say they are

and how well did those policies work in Parkland or in TX last week?

Don't try telling me every single school has procedures to stop people with guns from entering

Yes, they do. The fact you think they don't is a testament to your idiocy.

Yeah those procedures worked really well in the last 10 school shootings huh?

And you can't admit they have to be changed

Typical mindset of a person who cannot think for himself

I think for myself just fine. You have demonstrated exactly zero ability to find a solution you claim is so easy. I can shoot down every post you make from now into the cows comes home because you are a know-nothing dumbass!

 

[bodecea]

Santa Fe High School shooting: Suspect in custody, assistant principal says - CNN

Details still breaking.

When will this end?

Teachers teaching kids to drown caged animals wtf do ewe libtards expect?

So...that caused the school shooting, eh?

 

[MisterBeale]

Antidepressants and School Shootings, Suicide, Addiction.

 

[Wry Catcher]

/----/ when will criminal behavior end? Never.

Yep.... the Disney dwellers sit out there in radioland and think that there is some way we're going to have a day where tragedies don't happen. It's called missing too many memos.

Ah...so we should just get used to it....I agree. School shootings are the new normal in this country. #MAGA!

They have been the norm since we started drugging our kids into zombies that lack the emotion that stops them in the first place.

i do feel there is a huge connection here. in my high school days in the 80s people had shotguns and rifles in their trucks back window on a rack. never an issue.

something in society changed along the way as guns have been a part of it for a long long time.

I was alarmed when I found out that the school actually drugs kids for their parents.

I didn't know this.

When I was raising my son, some of his friends told him that the school would actually administer doses of medicine to them at school . . .

Then, when they didn't like the way my kid was acting at school, they actually wanted his mom and I to start him on their drugs. The STATE creates the problems. Just about all the boys in this neighborhood were being drugged by the school system. Those insane *****. . . . . Usually those drugs lead to starting on anti-depressants, and then, sometimes to bi-polar. . brain chemistry is very tricky, you don't want to mess with it when kids are developing.

Attention Disorder or Not, Pills to Help in School
Attention Disorder or Not, Children Prescribed Pills to Help in School



But it was all bullshit. I did some reading and research, and discovered I needed to improve his diet and make sure he got more exercise. Now he is a straight A student and a starter for the Basketball team. I don't want to tell you what happened to his peers they put on those drugs, let just say, if anyone turned out to be mass shooters in the school system. . . . Just b/c we are poor doesn't mean he needed to be put on drugs.

I

I call BULLSHIT! At least in CA no school teacher, nurse or administrator can by law give even an aspirin to any student without the knowledge and permission of the parent or guardian.

Ritalin and other drugs*** of this kind are Schedule II drugs, and carefully controlled.

***Examples of Schedule IIN stimulants include: amphetamine (Dexedrine, Adderall), methamphetamine (Desoxyn), and methylphenidate (Ritalin).

Drugs & Medications

 

[Wry Catcher]

Antidepressants and School Shootings, Suicide, Addiction.

Number of kids on meds, and number of kids who shoot and kill large number of peers or commit suicide = what %?

What % not on meds who shoot and kill large numbers of peers or commit suicide = what %?

The medication is the cause of mass shooting in schools is one more effort to blame something other than guns.

 

[MisterBeale]

Yep.... the Disney dwellers sit out there in radioland and think that there is some way we're going to have a day where tragedies don't happen. It's called missing too many memos.

Ah...so we should just get used to it....I agree. School shootings are the new normal in this country. #MAGA!

They have been the norm since we started drugging our kids into zombies that lack the emotion that stops them in the first place.

i do feel there is a huge connection here. in my high school days in the 80s people had shotguns and rifles in their trucks back window on a rack. never an issue.

something in society changed along the way as guns have been a part of it for a long long time.

I was alarmed when I found out that the school actually drugs kids for their parents.

I didn't know this.

When I was raising my son, some of his friends told him that the school would actually administer doses of medicine to them at school . . .

Then, when they didn't like the way my kid was acting at school, they actually wanted his mom and I to start him on their drugs. The STATE creates the problems. Just about all the boys in this neighborhood were being drugged by the school system. Those insane *****. . . . . Usually those drugs lead to starting on anti-depressants, and then, sometimes to bi-polar. . brain chemistry is very tricky, you don't want to mess with it when kids are developing.

Attention Disorder or Not, Pills to Help in School
Attention Disorder or Not, Children Prescribed Pills to Help in School



But it was all bullshit. I did some reading and research, and discovered I needed to improve his diet and make sure he got more exercise. Now he is a straight A student and a starter for the Basketball team. I don't want to tell you what happened to his peers they put on those drugs, let just say, if anyone turned out to be mass shooters in the school system. . . . Just b/c we are poor doesn't mean he needed to be put on drugs.

I

I call BULLSHIT! At least in CA no school teacher, nurse or administrator can by law give even an aspirin to any student without the knowledge and permission of the parent or guardian.

Ritalin and other drugs*** of this kind are Schedule II drugs, and carefully controlled.

***Examples of Schedule IIN stimulants include: amphetamine (Dexedrine, Adderall), methamphetamine (Desoxyn), and methylphenidate (Ritalin).

Drugs & Medications

I didn't say they were doing it with out the permission of parents.

But what idiot parent lets a stranger poison their kid?

Of course they are getting parents on board. It is a terrible state of circumstances where parents think that school personnel know what is better for their own kids than they do.

Awful.

 

[Pop23]

Antidepressants and School Shootings, Suicide, Addiction.

Number of kids on meds, and number of kids who shoot and kill large number of peers or commit suicide = what %?

What % not on meds who shoot and kill large numbers of peers or commit suicide = what %?

The medication is the cause of mass shooting in schools is one more effort to blame something other than guns.

Lets take a look at your questions:

Number of kids on meds, and number of kids who shoot and kill large number of peers or commit suicide = what %?

8,000,000 american children are on these meds daily, the number of of kids that kill large numbers while on the drug are minuscule, but, although still minuscule, the number that commit murder or other violent crime is exponentially higher. They are 50% more likely to Murder or Commit other violent crimes than those not on the drug.

What % not on meds who shoot and kill large numbers of peers or commit suicide = what %?

90% of all school shootings are done by those on these Medications. But since not all school shooters have had these reports released, we can assume it to be higher.

less than 10% then would be those not on these meds.

more than 90% vs, less than 10%

But we can look at another damning statistic. 1000 to 1500 additional teen suicides each year are linked to this class of medication. That is larger than ALL SCHOOL SHOOTINGS COMBINED.

Hope this answered your questions.

 

[Synthaholic]

still you are making claims about the situation you know nothing about

the child in this case is a criminal

how do you know he did not steal the firearms from the dad


you dont

in fact you know none of the facts

you are getting as bad as the libs on this board jumping to fact less conclusions

sad really

carry on

Parents are responsible for the actions of their minor children. It has been reported that he used his father's guns if those guns were secured he wouldn't have been able to take them

This kid lived in the house with his parents he didn't kill his father and steal his guns he walked out of the house with them.

It is a simple thing to secure firearms from minors in a home and it wasn't done.

like I said you dont know any of the facts about the case other then he had his parents firearms

Like I said the fact is he took his father's guns without the father's knowledge/

Even a moron can figure out the guns were not secured

only a moron would make that claim without the facts

FACT The kid took his father's guns and murdered 10 people
FACT the father was unaware that his minor child took his guns
FACT if the guns were secured properly the minor child would not have been able to take them and murder 10 people

FACT He could have just gone to a gun show and bought one, no questions asked.

Aren’t you people the dopes who always claim that laws don’t stop criminals?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Seems to me that a lot of people with guns are walking into schools and shooting so not all schools are doing anything to prevent it as you say they are

and how well did those policies work in Parkland or in TX last week?

Don't try telling me every single school has procedures to stop people with guns from entering

And once again .....

You could perhaps create a single entrance with trained ATF personnel and a metal detector at an average cost of probably 20 million per school x 130,000 schools.

I get 2 billion 600 million on retrofits alone plus the cost of 1-2 full time professionals depending on school size.

Ready to stroke that check?

And once again you don't have to do any of that

It doesn't take a trained governemnt monkey to look in a book bag or to have the people entering take off their coats and it's easy enough to designate one entrance no matter how many doors are on a school building you simply tell everyone where to enter and lock all the other doors

Cost $0.00

Try running 4000 kids through one door. Do you want to rebuild schools that have been in existence for 50 years? How much will that cost?

Who is going to man those doors? People cost money.

Why are you constantly doubling down on being a dumbass?

Once again you demonstrate an inability to problem solve.

Stagger the arrival times.

Some kids will have to get to school a little early. Small price to pay for increased security.

 

[Pop23]

Parents are responsible for the actions of their minor children. It has been reported that he used his father's guns if those guns were secured he wouldn't have been able to take them

This kid lived in the house with his parents he didn't kill his father and steal his guns he walked out of the house with them.

It is a simple thing to secure firearms from minors in a home and it wasn't done.

like I said you dont know any of the facts about the case other then he had his parents firearms

Like I said the fact is he took his father's guns without the father's knowledge/

Even a moron can figure out the guns were not secured

only a moron would make that claim without the facts

FACT The kid took his father's guns and murdered 10 people
FACT the father was unaware that his minor child took his guns
FACT if the guns were secured properly the minor child would not have been able to take them and murder 10 people

FACT He could have just gone to a gun show and bought one, no questions asked.

Aren’t you people the dopes who always claim that laws don’t stop criminals?

He could have just gone to a car lot and bought a car, waited until school was out, and killed just as many.

Did you have a point?

 

[Wry Catcher]

Antidepressants and School Shootings, Suicide, Addiction.

Number of kids on meds, and number of kids who shoot and kill large number of peers or commit suicide = what %?

What % not on meds who shoot and kill large numbers of peers or commit suicide = what %?

The medication is the cause of mass shooting in schools is one more effort to blame something other than guns.

Lets take a look at your questions:

Number of kids on meds, and number of kids who shoot and kill large number of peers or commit suicide = what %?

8,000,000 american children are on these meds daily, the number of of kids that kill large numbers while on the drug are minuscule, but, although still minuscule, the number that commit murder or other violent crime is exponentially higher. They are 50% more likely to Murder or Commit other violent crimes than those not on the drug.

What % not on meds who shoot and kill large numbers of peers or commit suicide = what %?

90% of all school shootings are done by those on these Medications. But since not all school shooters have had these reports released, we can assume it to be higher.

less than 10% then would be those not on these meds.

more than 90% vs, less than 10%

But we can look at another damning statistic. 1000 to 1500 teen additional teen suicides each year are linked to this class of medication. That is larger than ALL SCHOOL SHOOTINGS COMBINED.

Hope this answered your questions.

Well, since there is no credible link, my answer is no, my question was not answered.

In statistics we learned that correlation does not equate to cause, so any study must take into consideration dozens of variables and even then test for the reliability and validity of their conclusions.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Parents are responsible for the actions of their minor children. It has been reported that he used his father's guns if those guns were secured he wouldn't have been able to take them

This kid lived in the house with his parents he didn't kill his father and steal his guns he walked out of the house with them.

It is a simple thing to secure firearms from minors in a home and it wasn't done.

like I said you dont know any of the facts about the case other then he had his parents firearms

Like I said the fact is he took his father's guns without the father's knowledge/

Even a moron can figure out the guns were not secured

only a moron would make that claim without the facts

FACT The kid took his father's guns and murdered 10 people
FACT the father was unaware that his minor child took his guns
FACT if the guns were secured properly the minor child would not have been able to take them and murder 10 people

FACT He could have just gone to a gun show and bought one, no questions asked.

Aren’t you people the dopes who always claim that laws don’t stop criminals?

but this kid didn't do that did he?

He took his father's guns.

Don't confuse this case with one where a criminal breaks into a home that is locked and steals a person's guns

 

[Pop23]

Antidepressants and School Shootings, Suicide, Addiction.

Number of kids on meds, and number of kids who shoot and kill large number of peers or commit suicide = what %?

What % not on meds who shoot and kill large numbers of peers or commit suicide = what %?

The medication is the cause of mass shooting in schools is one more effort to blame something other than guns.

Lets take a look at your questions:

Number of kids on meds, and number of kids who shoot and kill large number of peers or commit suicide = what %?

8,000,000 american children are on these meds daily, the number of of kids that kill large numbers while on the drug are minuscule, but, although still minuscule, the number that commit murder or other violent crime is exponentially higher. They are 50% more likely to Murder or Commit other violent crimes than those not on the drug.

What % not on meds who shoot and kill large numbers of peers or commit suicide = what %?

90% of all school shootings are done by those on these Medications. But since not all school shooters have had these reports released, we can assume it to be higher.

less than 10% then would be those not on these meds.

more than 90% vs, less than 10%

But we can look at another damning statistic. 1000 to 1500 teen additional teen suicides each year are linked to this class of medication. That is larger than ALL SCHOOL SHOOTINGS COMBINED.

Hope this answered your questions.

Well, since there is no credible link, my answer is no, my question was not answered.

In statistics we learned that correlation does not equate to cause, so any study must take into consideration dozens of variables and even then test for the reliability and validity of their conclusions.

I knew your answer before I posted. Denial of the obvious is not a statisticians best attribute.

 

[MisterBeale]

Antidepressants and School Shootings, Suicide, Addiction.

Number of kids on meds, and number of kids who shoot and kill large number of peers or commit suicide = what %?

What % not on meds who shoot and kill large numbers of peers or commit suicide = what %?

The medication is the cause of mass shooting in schools is one more effort to blame something other than guns.

Wow, you are so illogical it is beyond comprehension.



Let's try to think LOGICALLY, shall we?

What has this nation ALWAYS had? GUNS.

And thus, mass shootings have always been extremely rare, so obviously guns are not the cause of mass shootings.

What has this nation NOT ALWAYS had? Drugging our youth to solve it's immediate problems.

I would argue with the passage of the ACA making health care more widely available to perfectly healthy low income youth, teachers and administrators are now more than willing than ever to turn to drugs to solve short term problems in huge over-crowded schools with kids, rather than have these kids do the work and deal with their emotions and work the old fashioned way.

Have a kid that is sad and blue, being bullied, and perhaps lagging behind in his work?

Throw him on some ADHD meds and some bi-polar meds. If he shoots up the school and kills a dozen kids? What the hell. . . just blame the guns.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Antidepressants and School Shootings, Suicide, Addiction.

Number of kids on meds, and number of kids who shoot and kill large number of peers or commit suicide = what %?

What % not on meds who shoot and kill large numbers of peers or commit suicide = what %?

The medication is the cause of mass shooting in schools is one more effort to blame something other than guns.

Lets take a look at your questions:

Number of kids on meds, and number of kids who shoot and kill large number of peers or commit suicide = what %?

8,000,000 american children are on these meds daily, the number of of kids that kill large numbers while on the drug are minuscule, but, although still minuscule, the number that commit murder or other violent crime is exponentially higher. They are 50% more likely to Murder or Commit other violent crimes than those not on the drug.

What % not on meds who shoot and kill large numbers of peers or commit suicide = what %?

90% of all school shootings are done by those on these Medications. But since not all school shooters have had these reports released, we can assume it to be higher.

less than 10% then would be those not on these meds.

more than 90% vs, less than 10%

But we can look at another damning statistic. 1000 to 1500 teen additional teen suicides each year are linked to this class of medication. That is larger than ALL SCHOOL SHOOTINGS COMBINED.

Hope this answered your questions.

Well, since there is no credible link, my answer is no, my question was not answered.

In statistics we learned that correlation does not equate to cause, so any study must take into consideration dozens of variables and even then test for the reliability and validity of their conclusions.

I knew your answer before I posted. Denial of the obvious is not a statisticians best attribute.

A gun is involved in more school mass murder than by knives, cars, bombs, arson, bow and arrows, poisons, cafeteria food and mustard gas. The probability of future mass killings is that a gun will be used, before anyone of these other means of murder are employed.

 

[Pop23]

Antidepressants and School Shootings, Suicide, Addiction.

Number of kids on meds, and number of kids who shoot and kill large number of peers or commit suicide = what %?

What % not on meds who shoot and kill large numbers of peers or commit suicide = what %?

The medication is the cause of mass shooting in schools is one more effort to blame something other than guns.

Lets take a look at your questions:

Number of kids on meds, and number of kids who shoot and kill large number of peers or commit suicide = what %?

8,000,000 american children are on these meds daily, the number of of kids that kill large numbers while on the drug are minuscule, but, although still minuscule, the number that commit murder or other violent crime is exponentially higher. They are 50% more likely to Murder or Commit other violent crimes than those not on the drug.

What % not on meds who shoot and kill large numbers of peers or commit suicide = what %?

90% of all school shootings are done by those on these Medications. But since not all school shooters have had these reports released, we can assume it to be higher.

less than 10% then would be those not on these meds.

more than 90% vs, less than 10%

But we can look at another damning statistic. 1000 to 1500 teen additional teen suicides each year are linked to this class of medication. That is larger than ALL SCHOOL SHOOTINGS COMBINED.

Hope this answered your questions.

Well, since there is no credible link, my answer is no, my question was not answered.

In statistics we learned that correlation does not equate to cause, so any study must take into consideration dozens of variables and even then test for the reliability and validity of their conclusions.

I knew your answer before I posted. Denial of the obvious is not a statisticians best attribute.

A gun is involved in more school mass murder than by knives, cars, bombs, arson, bow and arrows, poisons, cafeteria food and mustard gas. The probability of future mass killings is that a gun will be used, before anyone of these other means of murder are employed.

Wrong, the root of the problem is the Drug that brings the weapon into play in the first place.