Yet another school shooting

[DrLove]

And once again you don't have to do any of that

It doesn't take a trained governemnt monkey to look in a book bag or to have the people entering take off their coats and it's easy enough to designate one entrance no matter how many doors are on a school building you simply tell everyone where to enter and lock all the other doors

Cost $0.00

There are no "doors" on probably a dozen other entrances to the average school. You think a kid with a gun is gonna use the mandated entrance?

Classroom doors? Great - no, if the doors are locked the kids can't get in. What now - fingerprint enabled entry or a coded badge scanner? Great, so the kid who hates his classmates and his teacher opens that door in a flash.

Dude, you're losing it - I'm out

 

[Wry Catcher]

He carried it under his black trench coat in 90 degree weather.

Dustin Severin, a 17-year-old student, told NBC affiliate KPRC that he saw Pagourtzis in the hallway shortly before the bullets started flying — and that he was wearing his usual outfit. "He wears a trenchcoat every day, and it's like 90 degrees out here," Severin said.​

You are failing BIGLY today Skull - DERP ;-)

Gee a trench coat nothing suspicious there

I guess we need to ban trench coats. But when we do that, only outlaws will have trench coats!

But you don't seem to have any ideas on how to keep people with rifles and shotguns from walking into a school do you?

I guess of it's not spelled out for you in a lesson plan with step by step instructions you can't do it huh?

Yes, I do know how. Put an armed teacher at the door and stop anyone who looks like they don't belong. At present, the shooter would just pull out a gun and start shooting because nothing that that teacher can do will prevent them from doing so.

All our students at our middle school entered through one door, so anyone older would stick out like a sore thumb!

I just want to know why you think that schools do not have procedures in place and plans on how to react to these active shooter situations after you have been told repeatedly that they do. Columbine was 19 years ago in case you missed it. Are you just stupid or is being an asshole more fun?

Seems to me that a lot of people with guns are walking into schools and shooting so not all schools are doing anything to prevent it as you say they are

and how well did those policies work in Parkland or in TX last week?

Don't try telling me every single school has procedures to stop people with guns from entering

How much will it require to make every school in America a hard target, surrounded by razor wire, equipped with cameras and warning buzzers, single portals with a sally port the only way to enter and exit the walls of a neighborhood school, and in every classroom a steel door, automatically locked when the walls are breached?

How far do we go to protect an archaic 2nd A., which by any measure is the source of mass murder at school, movie theaters, concerts, malls and even military bases?

Common sense has shown prayers and false pathos have proved to be worthless non efforts to come to grips with horrific events which (it has been reported) this year have taken the lives of more kids in schools than deaths in our military service?

Isn't it time for the Congress to review our nation's gun policies, as past members of Congress did after the assassination of JFK, the assassination of MLK and RFK, and the attempt on the life of President Reagan?

In this century alone, we have seen mass murders by gun as the new normal, and even when members of the Republican Party were shot at a ball field, the NRA's hold on that party remains strong.

 

[JBond]

Obviously....duh.... security at schools need to be made to resemble federal government buildings. Time for people to buckle up their chin straps. Highly trained security. The kids will get used to it. Or we can continue to play makey-uppey let's continue to navigate in Disney.

Went to school overseas 0 mass shooting, heck 0 shooting...God damn it 0 shooting outside school...**** 0 shooting in malls, streets, or public places....you know why? Because it was a gun free country. I dont know anyone who knew anyone who saw a gun. Its doable Merica , it ain't the 1800s.

Pure fantasy. Completely made up.

I know for those who never lived in s gun free country.

Some people want massive illegal immigration. Some want to be able to defend themselves and others. Love legal citizenship.

Please post a factual link about the people who love massive immigration (other than opinions from RW extremists, including Fox news)

Acting obtuse is not helpful. I am sorry you are so poorly informed. Please educate yourself on this topic and then we can talk

 

[DrLove]

How much will it require to make every school in America a hard target, surrounded by razor wire, equipped with cameras and warning buzzers, single portals with a sally port the only way to enter and exit the walls of a neighborhood school, and in every classroom a steel door, automatically locked when the walls are breached?

How far do we go to protect an archaic 2nd A., which by any measure is the source of mass murder at school, movie theaters, concerts, malls and even military bases?

Common sense has shown prayers and false pathos have proved to be worthless non efforts to come to grips with horrific events which (it has been reported) this year have taken the lives of more kids in schools than deaths in our military service?

Isn't it time for the Congress to review our nation's gun policies, as past members of Congress did after the assassination of JFK, the assassination of MLK and RFK, and the attempt on the life of President Reagan?

In this century alone, we have seen mass murders by gun as the new normal, and even when members of the Republican Party were shot at a ball field, the NRA's hold on that party remains strong.

Kind of a shame that some people lack even the most rudimentary ability to use logic and think things through.

 

[JBond]

I will say it again. I wish schools would take security seriously. You do not see mass shootings in courtrooms.

Of course you don't because courthouses are loaded with LEO's either working there or there for a case. Only a dumbass would try to shoot up a courthouse.

They also tightly control entrances and use metal detectors. Multiple layers of security works.

Eight dead and one shooter detained. Another person is also detained. Not sure if that second was involved or not.

Oh yeah and I think they said this one was in a gun free zone.

Another failed gun-free zone, another pissed off public school student, another unprepared public school, and another missed opportunity to ask what these public schools are doing so wrong to their student to cause this.

As long as Big Pharma can make a buck off of turning kids into emotionless killing zombies its a big win on two fronts.

Profits for Big Pharma

Political Points for the left

Win/win unless your a kid. But who the **** cares about them?

Big pharma does not force kids to take mind numbing drugs. Parents and teachers do.

Teachers do not. Correct yourself before you wreck yourself.

I agree. Parents decide if their kids should be on drugs or not.

The teachers sure as hell don't.

I can only speak from experience and my experience may bias my views, but locally teachers push for kids to tested. They recommend who to see for testing. After a positive diagnosis (the big insurance money comes after a positive diagnosis) the school district receives additional federal financing as I have outlined in previous posts. It is similar to programs that pay schools to not report crimes, such as in Florida.

 

[Pop23]

How much will it require to make every school in America a hard target, surrounded by razor wire, equipped with cameras and warning buzzers, single portals with a sally port the only way to enter and exit the walls of a neighborhood school, and in every classroom a steel door, automatically locked when the walls are breached?

How far do we go to protect an archaic 2nd A., which by any measure is the source of mass murder at school, movie theaters, concerts, malls and even military bases?

Common sense has shown prayers and false pathos have proved to be worthless non efforts to come to grips with horrific events which (it has been reported) this year have taken the lives of more kids in schools than deaths in our military service?

Isn't it time for the Congress to review our nation's gun policies, as past members of Congress did after the assassination of JFK, the assassination of MLK and RFK, and the attempt on the life of President Reagan?

In this century alone, we have seen mass murders by gun as the new normal, and even when members of the Republican Party were shot at a ball field, the NRA's hold on that party remains strong.

Kind of a shame that some people lack even the most rudimentary ability to use logic and think things through.

It sure is, but then again, the reality is that none of this would be if we just quit creating these monsters Via prescription drugs.

 

[JBond]

Seems to me that a lot of people with guns are walking into schools and shooting so not all schools are doing anything to prevent it as you say they are

and how well did those policies work in Parkland or in TX last week?

Don't try telling me every single school has procedures to stop people with guns from entering

And once again .....

You could perhaps create a single entrance with trained ATF personnel and a metal detector at an average cost of probably 20 million per school x 130,000 schools.

I get 2 billion 600 million on retrofits alone plus the cost of 1-2 full time professionals depending on school size.

Ready to stroke that check?

And once again you don't have to do any of that

It doesn't take a trained governemnt monkey to look in a book bag or to have the people entering take off their coats and it's easy enough to designate one entrance no matter how many doors are on a school building you simply tell everyone where to enter and lock all the other doors

Cost $0.00

Lots of intellectually dishonest people are using these traumatic events for political points. They are too ******* lazy to address the real problems. They won't even secure the schools. Instead they would rather tear up the Constitution and double down on failed ideas. It is pathetic.

 

[Wry Catcher]

How much will it require to make every school in America a hard target, surrounded by razor wire, equipped with cameras and warning buzzers, single portals with a sally port the only way to enter and exit the walls of a neighborhood school, and in every classroom a steel door, automatically locked when the walls are breached?

How far do we go to protect an archaic 2nd A., which by any measure is the source of mass murder at school, movie theaters, concerts, malls and even military bases?

Common sense has shown prayers and false pathos have proved to be worthless non efforts to come to grips with horrific events which (it has been reported) this year have taken the lives of more kids in schools than deaths in our military service?

Isn't it time for the Congress to review our nation's gun policies, as past members of Congress did after the assassination of JFK, the assassination of MLK and RFK, and the attempt on the life of President Reagan?

In this century alone, we have seen mass murders by gun as the new normal, and even when members of the Republican Party were shot at a ball field, the NRA's hold on that party remains strong.

Kind of a shame that some people lack even the most rudimentary ability to use logic and think things through.

It sure is, but then again, the reality is that none of this would be if we just quit creating these monsters Via prescription drugs.

If all you have is the ability to echo this denial of reality, you really need some psychological intervention. Not only have you shown no ability to think for yourself, you continue to post the same foolishness over and over and over. Do you really expect a different response to your echo? If so, seek the intervention in my first sentence.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Gee a trench coat nothing suspicious there

I guess we need to ban trench coats. But when we do that, only outlaws will have trench coats!

But you don't seem to have any ideas on how to keep people with rifles and shotguns from walking into a school do you?

I guess of it's not spelled out for you in a lesson plan with step by step instructions you can't do it huh?

Yes, I do know how. Put an armed teacher at the door and stop anyone who looks like they don't belong. At present, the shooter would just pull out a gun and start shooting because nothing that that teacher can do will prevent them from doing so.

All our students at our middle school entered through one door, so anyone older would stick out like a sore thumb!

I just want to know why you think that schools do not have procedures in place and plans on how to react to these active shooter situations after you have been told repeatedly that they do. Columbine was 19 years ago in case you missed it. Are you just stupid or is being an asshole more fun?

Seems to me that a lot of people with guns are walking into schools and shooting so not all schools are doing anything to prevent it as you say they are

and how well did those policies work in Parkland or in TX last week?

Don't try telling me every single school has procedures to stop people with guns from entering

How much will it require to make every school in America a hard target, surrounded by razor wire, equipped with cameras and warning buzzers, single portals with a sally port the only way to enter and exit the walls of a neighborhood school, and in every classroom a steel door, automatically locked when the walls are breached?

How far do we go to protect an archaic 2nd A., which by any measure is the source of mass murder at school, movie theaters, concerts, malls and even military bases?

Common sense has shown prayers and false pathos have proved to be worthless non efforts to come to grips with horrific events which (it has been reported) this year have taken the lives of more kids in schools than deaths in our military service?

Isn't it time for the Congress to review our nation's gun policies, as past members of Congress did after the assassination of JFK, the assassination of MLK and RFK, and the attempt on the life of President Reagan?

In this century alone, we have seen mass murders by gun as the new normal, and even when members of the Republican Party were shot at a ball field, the NRA's hold on that party remains strong.

What is it with you people?

How do you make the gargantuan leap from controlling access and 2 very simple procedures like bag checks and asking people to remove their coats before entering with razor wire, metal detectors and trained G men?

A simple thing such as controlling access to the building needs none of what you describe

And you may think it's archaic to own a firearm for self defense but until you can guarantee that I will never be the victim of a crime I'm going to keep my guns

 

[Skull Pilot]

How much will it require to make every school in America a hard target, surrounded by razor wire, equipped with cameras and warning buzzers, single portals with a sally port the only way to enter and exit the walls of a neighborhood school, and in every classroom a steel door, automatically locked when the walls are breached?

How far do we go to protect an archaic 2nd A., which by any measure is the source of mass murder at school, movie theaters, concerts, malls and even military bases?

Common sense has shown prayers and false pathos have proved to be worthless non efforts to come to grips with horrific events which (it has been reported) this year have taken the lives of more kids in schools than deaths in our military service?

Isn't it time for the Congress to review our nation's gun policies, as past members of Congress did after the assassination of JFK, the assassination of MLK and RFK, and the attempt on the life of President Reagan?

In this century alone, we have seen mass murders by gun as the new normal, and even when members of the Republican Party were shot at a ball field, the NRA's hold on that party remains strong.

Kind of a shame that some people lack even the most rudimentary ability to use logic and think things through.

Says the moron who thinks he needs a trained government agent to look inside a book bag

 

[DrLove]

It sure is, but then again, the reality is that none of this would be if we just quit creating these monsters Via prescription drugs.

That is the NRA position - There is evidence to support it and an equal amount to dismiss it as an excuse.

NRA links school violence to Ritalin but experts deny link

 

[DrLove]

How much will it require to make every school in America a hard target, surrounded by razor wire, equipped with cameras and warning buzzers, single portals with a sally port the only way to enter and exit the walls of a neighborhood school, and in every classroom a steel door, automatically locked when the walls are breached?

How far do we go to protect an archaic 2nd A., which by any measure is the source of mass murder at school, movie theaters, concerts, malls and even military bases?

Common sense has shown prayers and false pathos have proved to be worthless non efforts to come to grips with horrific events which (it has been reported) this year have taken the lives of more kids in schools than deaths in our military service?

Isn't it time for the Congress to review our nation's gun policies, as past members of Congress did after the assassination of JFK, the assassination of MLK and RFK, and the attempt on the life of President Reagan?

In this century alone, we have seen mass murders by gun as the new normal, and even when members of the Republican Party were shot at a ball field, the NRA's hold on that party remains strong.

Kind of a shame that some people lack even the most rudimentary ability to use logic and think things through.

Says the moron who thinks he needs a trained government agent to look inside a book bag

You have failed to address the points made by Wry Catcher and myself.

So long

 

[Skull Pilot]

How much will it require to make every school in America a hard target, surrounded by razor wire, equipped with cameras and warning buzzers, single portals with a sally port the only way to enter and exit the walls of a neighborhood school, and in every classroom a steel door, automatically locked when the walls are breached?

How far do we go to protect an archaic 2nd A., which by any measure is the source of mass murder at school, movie theaters, concerts, malls and even military bases?

Common sense has shown prayers and false pathos have proved to be worthless non efforts to come to grips with horrific events which (it has been reported) this year have taken the lives of more kids in schools than deaths in our military service?

Isn't it time for the Congress to review our nation's gun policies, as past members of Congress did after the assassination of JFK, the assassination of MLK and RFK, and the attempt on the life of President Reagan?

In this century alone, we have seen mass murders by gun as the new normal, and even when members of the Republican Party were shot at a ball field, the NRA's hold on that party remains strong.

Kind of a shame that some people lack even the most rudimentary ability to use logic and think things through.

Says the moron who thinks he needs a trained government agent to look inside a book bag

You have failed to address the points made by Wry Catcher and myself.

So long

Then you cannot read.

 

[MisterBeale]

Santa Fe High School shooting: Suspect in custody, assistant principal says - CNN

Details still breaking.

When will this end?

When the truth about psycho-reactive pharmaceuticals on kids is known. But that won't happen, so don't look for it to end.

From Prozac to Parkland: Are Psychiatric Drugs Causing Mass Shootings?
From Prozac to Parkland: Are Psychiatric Drugs Causing Mass Shootings?

Dramatic Increase of Mass Shootings in America: The Role of Prescription Psychiatric Drugs?
Three-fold Increase in Mass Shootings in Step with Increased Psychiatric Drugging
https://www.globalresearch.ca/drama...ole-of-prescription-psychiatric-drugs/5358896

Antidepressants Are a Prescription for Mass Shootings
Antidepressants Are a Prescription for Mass Shootings – Citizens Commission on Human Rights, CCHR

 

[Pop23]

How much will it require to make every school in America a hard target, surrounded by razor wire, equipped with cameras and warning buzzers, single portals with a sally port the only way to enter and exit the walls of a neighborhood school, and in every classroom a steel door, automatically locked when the walls are breached?

How far do we go to protect an archaic 2nd A., which by any measure is the source of mass murder at school, movie theaters, concerts, malls and even military bases?

Common sense has shown prayers and false pathos have proved to be worthless non efforts to come to grips with horrific events which (it has been reported) this year have taken the lives of more kids in schools than deaths in our military service?

Isn't it time for the Congress to review our nation's gun policies, as past members of Congress did after the assassination of JFK, the assassination of MLK and RFK, and the attempt on the life of President Reagan?

In this century alone, we have seen mass murders by gun as the new normal, and even when members of the Republican Party were shot at a ball field, the NRA's hold on that party remains strong.

Kind of a shame that some people lack even the most rudimentary ability to use logic and think things through.

It sure is, but then again, the reality is that none of this would be if we just quit creating these monsters Via prescription drugs.

If all you have is the ability to echo this denial of reality, you really need some psychological intervention. Not only have you shown no ability to think for yourself, you continue to post the same foolishness over and over and over. Do you really expect a different response to your echo? If so, seek the intervention in my first sentence.

I've posted link after link after link. Some to studies performed by the Worlds most prestigious Universities and this^^^^has been you're only rebuttal, time, after, time, after time.

Why? Because you can't stand the idea that you are wrong.

It is increasingly noticeable that you want the killings to continue, you actually appear to relish the thought, just so you can advance a political view.

You will likely get your wish, but that's not a good thing.

 

[Pop23]

It sure is, but then again, the reality is that none of this would be if we just quit creating these monsters Via prescription drugs.

That is the NRA position - There is evidence to support it and an equal amount to dismiss it as an excuse.

NRA links school violence to Ritalin but experts deny link

I expressed my views on this subject, on this board, well ahead of the NRA. Call me a trendsetter, doesn't bother me a bit.

 

[Pop23]

It sure is, but then again, the reality is that none of this would be if we just quit creating these monsters Via prescription drugs.

That is the NRA position - There is evidence to support it and an equal amount to dismiss it as an excuse.

NRA links school violence to Ritalin but experts deny link

Ritalin is not an SSRI antidepressant. You might want to rethink your response. You showed you have ZERO knowledge on the subject.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Targeting schools?

Are you familiar with Marshall County, KY? It's a farming community with only enough population to support one large high school. There are no gangs, drugs or any criminal element, yet there was a school shooting. There is no magic formula. To assume as much just shows why we should not let amateurs like post of this message board be responsible for any decisions that require intelligent thought.

A violent act can occur in any school in the country at any time. I'm suggesting we give the most attention to schools such as John Bowne High School in New York where violent attacks with injuries occurred 53 times last year, 14 the previous. These acts include shootings, stabbing, beatings, and even attacking a teacher with a baseball bat. There're dozens of schools like John Bowne and there're hundreds of schools where a serious attack or killings occur almost every year, and thousands with a long history of violence that goes back many years.

There simple will not be enough resources if we include all schools.

Sounds like a nice school! Only 53 times? I taught at a school where it happened at least once per day!

I taught in an elementary school in Florida for 2 years. It was a Chapter One school in the middle one of the worst areas in the city. You always could tell the kids whose family ran drugs because they were well dressed and often wore jewelry. Guns and drugs were everywhere. Older kids would often bring knives or guns to school. Surprisingly, we didn't have a lot of school violence but it was a horrible place to work even thou the class sizes were small and we had a great principal. They had a small parking lot for staff with a guard. If you didn't get your car in the lot in the morning, the chances were pretty good it would not be intact when you returned. Walking anywhere out of the school was not safe. Parent teacher nights was a real trip. Most of parents really cared about their kids and wanted to help them but some times there were characters that scared the shit out of me. I kept a gun in my car but I would have never brought it into the school because I might get jumped by one of the older kids. A lot of teachers only lasted one year. I made it two before getting transferred.

Sounds pretty typical to inner city schools to me.

And why the hell is that sort of shit allowed? Sounds like a admin that has lost complete control of their school.

The main reason is lawsuits whenever little Johnny feels mistreated.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

He carried it under his black trench coat in 90 degree weather.

Dustin Severin, a 17-year-old student, told NBC affiliate KPRC that he saw Pagourtzis in the hallway shortly before the bullets started flying — and that he was wearing his usual outfit. "He wears a trenchcoat every day, and it's like 90 degrees out here," Severin said.​

You are failing BIGLY today Skull - DERP ;-)

Gee a trench coat nothing suspicious there

I guess we need to ban trench coats. But when we do that, only outlaws will have trench coats!

But you don't seem to have any ideas on how to keep people with rifles and shotguns from walking into a school do you?

I guess of it's not spelled out for you in a lesson plan with step by step instructions you can't do it huh?

Yes, I do know how. Put an armed teacher at the door and stop anyone who looks like they don't belong. At present, the shooter would just pull out a gun and start shooting because nothing that that teacher can do will prevent them from doing so.

All our students at our middle school entered through one door, so anyone older would stick out like a sore thumb!

I just want to know why you think that schools do not have procedures in place and plans on how to react to these active shooter situations after you have been told repeatedly that they do. Columbine was 19 years ago in case you missed it. Are you just stupid or is being an asshole more fun?

Seems to me that a lot of people with guns are walking into schools and shooting so not all schools are doing anything to prevent it as you say they are

and how well did those policies work in Parkland or in TX last week?

Don't try telling me every single school has procedures to stop people with guns from entering

Yes, they do. The fact you think they don't is a testament to your idiocy.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Gee a trench coat nothing suspicious there

I guess we need to ban trench coats. But when we do that, only outlaws will have trench coats!

But you don't seem to have any ideas on how to keep people with rifles and shotguns from walking into a school do you?

I guess of it's not spelled out for you in a lesson plan with step by step instructions you can't do it huh?

Yes, I do know how. Put an armed teacher at the door and stop anyone who looks like they don't belong. At present, the shooter would just pull out a gun and start shooting because nothing that that teacher can do will prevent them from doing so.

All our students at our middle school entered through one door, so anyone older would stick out like a sore thumb!

I just want to know why you think that schools do not have procedures in place and plans on how to react to these active shooter situations after you have been told repeatedly that they do. Columbine was 19 years ago in case you missed it. Are you just stupid or is being an asshole more fun?

Seems to me that a lot of people with guns are walking into schools and shooting so not all schools are doing anything to prevent it as you say they are

and how well did those policies work in Parkland or in TX last week?

Don't try telling me every single school has procedures to stop people with guns from entering

Yes, they do. The fact you think they don't is a testament to your idiocy.

Yeah those procedures worked really well in the last 10 school shootings huh?

And you can't admit they have to be changed

Typical mindset of a person who cannot think for himself