Yet another Fauci Flip-Flop.

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First he said wearing a mask wasn't necessary because we didn't at the time know that asymptomatic and pre symptomatic people were shedding the virus.
Wow, you are a dummy. The fraud said it did not protect from influenza variations and that fingers touching it introduces assorted bacteria and viruses directly to the respiratory system via a disease soaked rag on the face. For literally a hundred years, Western man has known wearing gloves protects against influenza since influenza is transmitted via door handles, etc., not the air.
 

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Times change, with new information on the NOVEL virus...and with these new variations developing that are 7 times more contagious...

Bottom line, we all need N95 masks, the govt should supply them for us.
Start the count now. How many deaths because Quid Pro Dementia Riddled Finger Raping Joe hasn't supplied Americans with N95 masks.
 

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First masks didn't work, then they did, then they didn't...........now you gotta wear 2.

What a clown.

In all fairness to Dr. Fauci, the right way to confront the pandemic is a work in progress.

No one really knows how to handle it.

Ideas come and go.

So it does seem common sense to say that two masks are more effective than one mask.

But nobody really knows at this point.

And I guess that three masks would be more effective than two masks.

In one or two years from now, we will learn that "science" was right on some points and wrong on other points (even terribly wrong?).
 

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If we had our own national supply of medical grade N95 masks the infection and death rate would be a lot lower....but Obama and Biden allowed all of our medical supply manufacturing to move to China after Obamacare placed outrageous taxes on those companies....
They all left and went into the open arms of the Red menace...and China refused to sell us masks in a timely fashion...all while Americans died needlessly....now Biden will reinstitute those taxes ensuring those companies will remain abroad....
Funding for stockpiling of medical supplies is a debate that happens in Congress.


How Tea Party Budget Battles Left the National Emergency Medical Stockpile Unprepared for Coronavirus
Fiscal restraints imposed by Republicans in Congress in the early years of the Obama administration left the U.S. less prepared to respond to the coronavirus pandemic today.

Dire shortages of vital medical equipment in the Strategic National Stockpile that are now hampering the coronavirus response trace back to the budget wars of the Obama years, when congressional Republicans elected on the Tea Party wave forced the White House to accept sweeping cuts to federal spending.

Among the victims of those partisan fights was the effort to keep adequate supplies of masks, ventilators, pharmaceuticals and other medical equipment on hand to respond to a public health crisis. Lawmakers in both parties raised the specter of shortchanging future disaster response even as they voted to approve the cuts.


However if you're insist on blaming the White House. Trump was in office for 3 years and didn't do anything. He was slow to react to procuring supplies as well. Forcing states to go out and bid against other states for large supplies of PPE. Once the federal government did act they started bidding against other states thus making the problem worse.

It's the Tea Partys fault! Hahahahaha.

You cant buy entertainment like this.
 

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If we had our own national supply of medical grade N95 masks the infection and death rate would be a lot lower....but Obama and Biden allowed all of our medical supply manufacturing to move to China after Obamacare placed outrageous taxes on those companies....
They all left and went into the open arms of the Red menace...and China refused to sell us masks in a timely fashion...all while Americans died needlessly....now Biden will reinstitute those taxes ensuring those companies will remain abroad....
Funding for stockpiling of medical supplies is a debate that happens in Congress.


How Tea Party Budget Battles Left the National Emergency Medical Stockpile Unprepared for Coronavirus
Fiscal restraints imposed by Republicans in Congress in the early years of the Obama administration left the U.S. less prepared to respond to the coronavirus pandemic today.

Dire shortages of vital medical equipment in the Strategic National Stockpile that are now hampering the coronavirus response trace back to the budget wars of the Obama years, when congressional Republicans elected on the Tea Party wave forced the White House to accept sweeping cuts to federal spending.

Among the victims of those partisan fights was the effort to keep adequate supplies of masks, ventilators, pharmaceuticals and other medical equipment on hand to respond to a public health crisis. Lawmakers in both parties raised the specter of shortchanging future disaster response even as they voted to approve the cuts.


However if you're insist on blaming the White House. Trump was in office for 3 years and didn't do anything. He was slow to react to procuring supplies as well. Forcing states to go out and bid against other states for large supplies of PPE. Once the federal government did act they started bidding against other states thus making the problem worse.

It's the Tea Partys fault! Hahahahaha.

You cant buy entertainment like this.
It's the GOP in Congress rushed in with the wave of the tea party that didn't fund the national stockpile. They are the ones who voted against it.

If you want to blame presidents then why not add Trump to that list? He was president for 3 years before COVID happened.
 
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If we had our own national supply of medical grade N95 masks the infection and death rate would be a lot lower....but Obama and Biden allowed all of our medical supply manufacturing to move to China after Obamacare placed outrageous taxes on those companies....
They all left and went into the open arms of the Red menace...and China refused to sell us masks in a timely fashion...all while Americans died needlessly....now Biden will reinstitute those taxes ensuring those companies will remain abroad....
Funding for stockpiling of medical supplies is a debate that happens in Congress.


How Tea Party Budget Battles Left the National Emergency Medical Stockpile Unprepared for Coronavirus
Fiscal restraints imposed by Republicans in Congress in the early years of the Obama administration left the U.S. less prepared to respond to the coronavirus pandemic today.

Dire shortages of vital medical equipment in the Strategic National Stockpile that are now hampering the coronavirus response trace back to the budget wars of the Obama years, when congressional Republicans elected on the Tea Party wave forced the White House to accept sweeping cuts to federal spending.

Among the victims of those partisan fights was the effort to keep adequate supplies of masks, ventilators, pharmaceuticals and other medical equipment on hand to respond to a public health crisis. Lawmakers in both parties raised the specter of shortchanging future disaster response even as they voted to approve the cuts.


However if you're insist on blaming the White House. Trump was in office for 3 years and didn't do anything. He was slow to react to procuring supplies as well. Forcing states to go out and bid against other states for large supplies of PPE. Once the federal government did act they started bidding against other states thus making the problem worse.

It's the Tea Partys fault! Hahahahaha.

You cant buy entertainment like this.
It's the GOP in Congress rushed in with the wave of the tea party that didn't fund the national stockpile. They are the ones who voted against it.

If you want to blame presidents then why not add Trump to that list? He was president for 3 years before COVID happened.
They are the ones who voted against it.

Link?
 

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If we had our own national supply of medical grade N95 masks the infection and death rate would be a lot lower....but Obama and Biden allowed all of our medical supply manufacturing to move to China after Obamacare placed outrageous taxes on those companies....
They all left and went into the open arms of the Red menace...and China refused to sell us masks in a timely fashion...all while Americans died needlessly....now Biden will reinstitute those taxes ensuring those companies will remain abroad....
Funding for stockpiling of medical supplies is a debate that happens in Congress.


How Tea Party Budget Battles Left the National Emergency Medical Stockpile Unprepared for Coronavirus
Fiscal restraints imposed by Republicans in Congress in the early years of the Obama administration left the U.S. less prepared to respond to the coronavirus pandemic today.

Dire shortages of vital medical equipment in the Strategic National Stockpile that are now hampering the coronavirus response trace back to the budget wars of the Obama years, when congressional Republicans elected on the Tea Party wave forced the White House to accept sweeping cuts to federal spending.

Among the victims of those partisan fights was the effort to keep adequate supplies of masks, ventilators, pharmaceuticals and other medical equipment on hand to respond to a public health crisis. Lawmakers in both parties raised the specter of shortchanging future disaster response even as they voted to approve the cuts.


However if you're insist on blaming the White House. Trump was in office for 3 years and didn't do anything. He was slow to react to procuring supplies as well. Forcing states to go out and bid against other states for large supplies of PPE. Once the federal government did act they started bidding against other states thus making the problem worse.

It's the Tea Partys fault! Hahahahaha.

You cant buy entertainment like this.
It's the GOP in Congress rushed in with the wave of the tea party that didn't fund the national stockpile. They are the ones who voted against it.

If you want to blame presidents then why not add Trump to that list? He was president for 3 years before COVID happened.
They are the ones who voted against it.

Link?

That is from my link that I already provided.
 
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If we had our own national supply of medical grade N95 masks the infection and death rate would be a lot lower....but Obama and Biden allowed all of our medical supply manufacturing to move to China after Obamacare placed outrageous taxes on those companies....
They all left and went into the open arms of the Red menace...and China refused to sell us masks in a timely fashion...all while Americans died needlessly....now Biden will reinstitute those taxes ensuring those companies will remain abroad....
Funding for stockpiling of medical supplies is a debate that happens in Congress.


How Tea Party Budget Battles Left the National Emergency Medical Stockpile Unprepared for Coronavirus
Fiscal restraints imposed by Republicans in Congress in the early years of the Obama administration left the U.S. less prepared to respond to the coronavirus pandemic today.

Dire shortages of vital medical equipment in the Strategic National Stockpile that are now hampering the coronavirus response trace back to the budget wars of the Obama years, when congressional Republicans elected on the Tea Party wave forced the White House to accept sweeping cuts to federal spending.

Among the victims of those partisan fights was the effort to keep adequate supplies of masks, ventilators, pharmaceuticals and other medical equipment on hand to respond to a public health crisis. Lawmakers in both parties raised the specter of shortchanging future disaster response even as they voted to approve the cuts.


However if you're insist on blaming the White House. Trump was in office for 3 years and didn't do anything. He was slow to react to procuring supplies as well. Forcing states to go out and bid against other states for large supplies of PPE. Once the federal government did act they started bidding against other states thus making the problem worse.

It's the Tea Partys fault! Hahahahaha.

You cant buy entertainment like this.
It's the GOP in Congress rushed in with the wave of the tea party that didn't fund the national stockpile. They are the ones who voted against it.

If you want to blame presidents then why not add Trump to that list? He was president for 3 years before COVID happened.
They are the ones who voted against it.

Link?

That is from my link that I already provided.
You seem confused. I asked for a link to the vote, not an opinion piece.

Since you can't bring one to an actual vote, I will make it easy on you. Your opinion piece claimed they caused "sweeping cuts in federal spending".
Link us up to the year federal spending went down from the previous year under Barry.
 
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Fauci did an interview this morning with NYTs radio.....28 min interview, 24 min spent talking about the Trump administration.

Tell me again how he isn’t a political hack....
 

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If we had our own national supply of medical grade N95 masks the infection and death rate would be a lot lower....but Obama and Biden allowed all of our medical supply manufacturing to move to China after Obamacare placed outrageous taxes on those companies....
They all left and went into the open arms of the Red menace...and China refused to sell us masks in a timely fashion...all while Americans died needlessly....now Biden will reinstitute those taxes ensuring those companies will remain abroad....
Funding for stockpiling of medical supplies is a debate that happens in Congress.


How Tea Party Budget Battles Left the National Emergency Medical Stockpile Unprepared for Coronavirus
Fiscal restraints imposed by Republicans in Congress in the early years of the Obama administration left the U.S. less prepared to respond to the coronavirus pandemic today.

Dire shortages of vital medical equipment in the Strategic National Stockpile that are now hampering the coronavirus response trace back to the budget wars of the Obama years, when congressional Republicans elected on the Tea Party wave forced the White House to accept sweeping cuts to federal spending.

Among the victims of those partisan fights was the effort to keep adequate supplies of masks, ventilators, pharmaceuticals and other medical equipment on hand to respond to a public health crisis. Lawmakers in both parties raised the specter of shortchanging future disaster response even as they voted to approve the cuts.


However if you're insist on blaming the White House. Trump was in office for 3 years and didn't do anything. He was slow to react to procuring supplies as well. Forcing states to go out and bid against other states for large supplies of PPE. Once the federal government did act they started bidding against other states thus making the problem worse.

It's the Tea Partys fault! Hahahahaha.

You cant buy entertainment like this.
It's the GOP in Congress rushed in with the wave of the tea party that didn't fund the national stockpile. They are the ones who voted against it.

If you want to blame presidents then why not add Trump to that list? He was president for 3 years before COVID happened.
They are the ones who voted against it.

Link?

That is from my link that I already provided.
You seem confused. I asked for a link to the vote, not an opinion piece.

Since you can't bring one to an actual vote, I will make it easy on you. Your opinion piece claimed they caused "sweeping cuts in federal spending".
Link us up to the year federal spending went down from the previous year under Barry.
This was the Obama administration's HHS budget request.

Medical Countermeasures: The HHS Medical Countermeasure Review, which was released in August 2010, described a new strategy focused on forging partnerships, minimizing constraints, modernizing regulatory oversight, and supporting transformational technologies. The Budget enhances the initiatives identified in the review. The request includes $665 million for the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, an increase of $345 million over FY 2010, to improve existing and develop new next-generation medical countermeasures to mitigate the medical consequences of potential chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear threats. As recommended in the review, the Budget also includes $100 million to establish a strategic investment corporation that would function as a publicprivate venture capital fund providing companies developing medical countermeasures with the necessary financial capital and business acumen to improve the chances of successful development of new medical countermeasure technologies and products. The Budget includes $70 million for FDA, which builds off of the $170 million request in FY 2011, to establish teams of public health experts to support the review of medical countermeasures and novel manufacturing approaches and examine the legal framework and regulatory and policy approaches. Additionally, NIH will dedicate $55 million towards expanding the Concept Acceleration Program, which individually helps shepherd investigators who have promising, early-stage, medical countermeasure products, but limited product development experience, to more rapidly develop and test their products to the clinical evaluation stages. Finally, the Budget includes $655 million, an increase of $59 million over FY 2010, for the Strategic National Stockpile to replace expiring products, support BioShield acquisitions, and fill gaps in the stockpile inventory.

The Republicans who held the majority in the House didn't put this into the budget to vote for. My link referenced this document, you chose to either not read it or understand it.

Obama administration asked, Republicans who controlled the purse strings said no. That too is referenced in my link:

But efforts to bulk up the stockpile fell apart in tense standoffs between the Obama White House and congressional Republicans, according to administration and congressional officials involved in the negotiations. Had Congress kept funding at the 2010 level through the end of the Obama administration, the stockpile would have benefited from $321 million more than it ended up getting, according to budget documents reviewed by ProPublica. During the Trump administration, Congress started giving the stockpile more than the White House requested.

Obama administration wanted to fund it, Republicans didn't and the Republicans won since they controlled Congress. You're asking for something that doesn't exist, a vote for a specific piece of the budget. I get that you understand none of this.
 
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If we had our own national supply of medical grade N95 masks the infection and death rate would be a lot lower....but Obama and Biden allowed all of our medical supply manufacturing to move to China after Obamacare placed outrageous taxes on those companies....
They all left and went into the open arms of the Red menace...and China refused to sell us masks in a timely fashion...all while Americans died needlessly....now Biden will reinstitute those taxes ensuring those companies will remain abroad....
Funding for stockpiling of medical supplies is a debate that happens in Congress.


How Tea Party Budget Battles Left the National Emergency Medical Stockpile Unprepared for Coronavirus
Fiscal restraints imposed by Republicans in Congress in the early years of the Obama administration left the U.S. less prepared to respond to the coronavirus pandemic today.

Dire shortages of vital medical equipment in the Strategic National Stockpile that are now hampering the coronavirus response trace back to the budget wars of the Obama years, when congressional Republicans elected on the Tea Party wave forced the White House to accept sweeping cuts to federal spending.

Among the victims of those partisan fights was the effort to keep adequate supplies of masks, ventilators, pharmaceuticals and other medical equipment on hand to respond to a public health crisis. Lawmakers in both parties raised the specter of shortchanging future disaster response even as they voted to approve the cuts.


However if you're insist on blaming the White House. Trump was in office for 3 years and didn't do anything. He was slow to react to procuring supplies as well. Forcing states to go out and bid against other states for large supplies of PPE. Once the federal government did act they started bidding against other states thus making the problem worse.

It's the Tea Partys fault! Hahahahaha.

You cant buy entertainment like this.
It's the GOP in Congress rushed in with the wave of the tea party that didn't fund the national stockpile. They are the ones who voted against it.

If you want to blame presidents then why not add Trump to that list? He was president for 3 years before COVID happened.
They are the ones who voted against it.

Link?

That is from my link that I already provided.
You seem confused. I asked for a link to the vote, not an opinion piece.

Since you can't bring one to an actual vote, I will make it easy on you. Your opinion piece claimed they caused "sweeping cuts in federal spending".
Link us up to the year federal spending went down from the previous year under Barry.
This was the Obama administration's HHS budget request.

Medical Countermeasures: The HHS Medical Countermeasure Review, which was released in August 2010, described a new strategy focused on forging partnerships, minimizing constraints, modernizing regulatory oversight, and supporting transformational technologies. The Budget enhances the initiatives identified in the review. The request includes $665 million for the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, an increase of $345 million over FY 2010, to improve existing and develop new next-generation medical countermeasures to mitigate the medical consequences of potential chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear threats. As recommended in the review, the Budget also includes $100 million to establish a strategic investment corporation that would function as a publicprivate venture capital fund providing companies developing medical countermeasures with the necessary financial capital and business acumen to improve the chances of successful development of new medical countermeasure technologies and products. The Budget includes $70 million for FDA, which builds off of the $170 million request in FY 2011, to establish teams of public health experts to support the review of medical countermeasures and novel manufacturing approaches and examine the legal framework and regulatory and policy approaches. Additionally, NIH will dedicate $55 million towards expanding the Concept Acceleration Program, which individually helps shepherd investigators who have promising, early-stage, medical countermeasure products, but limited product development experience, to more rapidly develop and test their products to the clinical evaluation stages. Finally, the Budget includes $655 million, an increase of $59 million over FY 2010, for the Strategic National Stockpile to replace expiring products, support BioShield acquisitions, and fill gaps in the stockpile inventory.

The Republicans who held the majority in the House didn't put this into the budget to vote for. My link referenced this document, you chose to either not read it or understand it.

Obama administration asked, Republicans who controlled the purse strings said no. That too is referenced in my link:

But efforts to bulk up the stockpile fell apart in tense standoffs between the Obama White House and congressional Republicans, according to administration and congressional officials involved in the negotiations. Had Congress kept funding at the 2010 level through the end of the Obama administration, the stockpile would have benefited from $321 million more than it ended up getting, according to budget documents reviewed by ProPublica. During the Trump administration, Congress started giving the stockpile more than the White House requested.

Obama administration wanted to fund it, Republicans didn't and the Republicans won since they controlled Congress. You're asking for something that doesn't exist, a vote for a specific piece of the budget. I get that you understand none of this.
Barry’s budget that year got ZERO votes in the Senate. Not a single Dimwinger voted for it, so tell us again how the Tea Party shot it down, Stupid.

 

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If we had our own national supply of medical grade N95 masks the infection and death rate would be a lot lower....but Obama and Biden allowed all of our medical supply manufacturing to move to China after Obamacare placed outrageous taxes on those companies....
They all left and went into the open arms of the Red menace...and China refused to sell us masks in a timely fashion...all while Americans died needlessly....now Biden will reinstitute those taxes ensuring those companies will remain abroad....
Funding for stockpiling of medical supplies is a debate that happens in Congress.


How Tea Party Budget Battles Left the National Emergency Medical Stockpile Unprepared for Coronavirus
Fiscal restraints imposed by Republicans in Congress in the early years of the Obama administration left the U.S. less prepared to respond to the coronavirus pandemic today.

Dire shortages of vital medical equipment in the Strategic National Stockpile that are now hampering the coronavirus response trace back to the budget wars of the Obama years, when congressional Republicans elected on the Tea Party wave forced the White House to accept sweeping cuts to federal spending.

Among the victims of those partisan fights was the effort to keep adequate supplies of masks, ventilators, pharmaceuticals and other medical equipment on hand to respond to a public health crisis. Lawmakers in both parties raised the specter of shortchanging future disaster response even as they voted to approve the cuts.


However if you're insist on blaming the White House. Trump was in office for 3 years and didn't do anything. He was slow to react to procuring supplies as well. Forcing states to go out and bid against other states for large supplies of PPE. Once the federal government did act they started bidding against other states thus making the problem worse.

It's the Tea Partys fault! Hahahahaha.

You cant buy entertainment like this.
It's the GOP in Congress rushed in with the wave of the tea party that didn't fund the national stockpile. They are the ones who voted against it.

If you want to blame presidents then why not add Trump to that list? He was president for 3 years before COVID happened.
They are the ones who voted against it.

Link?

That is from my link that I already provided.
You seem confused. I asked for a link to the vote, not an opinion piece.

Since you can't bring one to an actual vote, I will make it easy on you. Your opinion piece claimed they caused "sweeping cuts in federal spending".
Link us up to the year federal spending went down from the previous year under Barry.
This was the Obama administration's HHS budget request.

Medical Countermeasures: The HHS Medical Countermeasure Review, which was released in August 2010, described a new strategy focused on forging partnerships, minimizing constraints, modernizing regulatory oversight, and supporting transformational technologies. The Budget enhances the initiatives identified in the review. The request includes $665 million for the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, an increase of $345 million over FY 2010, to improve existing and develop new next-generation medical countermeasures to mitigate the medical consequences of potential chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear threats. As recommended in the review, the Budget also includes $100 million to establish a strategic investment corporation that would function as a publicprivate venture capital fund providing companies developing medical countermeasures with the necessary financial capital and business acumen to improve the chances of successful development of new medical countermeasure technologies and products. The Budget includes $70 million for FDA, which builds off of the $170 million request in FY 2011, to establish teams of public health experts to support the review of medical countermeasures and novel manufacturing approaches and examine the legal framework and regulatory and policy approaches. Additionally, NIH will dedicate $55 million towards expanding the Concept Acceleration Program, which individually helps shepherd investigators who have promising, early-stage, medical countermeasure products, but limited product development experience, to more rapidly develop and test their products to the clinical evaluation stages. Finally, the Budget includes $655 million, an increase of $59 million over FY 2010, for the Strategic National Stockpile to replace expiring products, support BioShield acquisitions, and fill gaps in the stockpile inventory.

The Republicans who held the majority in the House didn't put this into the budget to vote for. My link referenced this document, you chose to either not read it or understand it.

Obama administration asked, Republicans who controlled the purse strings said no. That too is referenced in my link:

But efforts to bulk up the stockpile fell apart in tense standoffs between the Obama White House and congressional Republicans, according to administration and congressional officials involved in the negotiations. Had Congress kept funding at the 2010 level through the end of the Obama administration, the stockpile would have benefited from $321 million more than it ended up getting, according to budget documents reviewed by ProPublica. During the Trump administration, Congress started giving the stockpile more than the White House requested.

Obama administration wanted to fund it, Republicans didn't and the Republicans won since they controlled Congress. You're asking for something that doesn't exist, a vote for a specific piece of the budget. I get that you understand none of this.
Barry’s budget that year got ZERO votes in the Senate. Not a single Dimwinger voted for it, so tell us again how the Tea Party shot it down, Stupid.

The national stockpile funding was killed in the House by Republicans. Do try to keep up.
 

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If we had our own national supply of medical grade N95 masks the infection and death rate would be a lot lower....but Obama and Biden allowed all of our medical supply manufacturing to move to China after Obamacare placed outrageous taxes on those companies....
They all left and went into the open arms of the Red menace...and China refused to sell us masks in a timely fashion...all while Americans died needlessly....now Biden will reinstitute those taxes ensuring those companies will remain abroad....
Funding for stockpiling of medical supplies is a debate that happens in Congress.


How Tea Party Budget Battles Left the National Emergency Medical Stockpile Unprepared for Coronavirus
Fiscal restraints imposed by Republicans in Congress in the early years of the Obama administration left the U.S. less prepared to respond to the coronavirus pandemic today.

Dire shortages of vital medical equipment in the Strategic National Stockpile that are now hampering the coronavirus response trace back to the budget wars of the Obama years, when congressional Republicans elected on the Tea Party wave forced the White House to accept sweeping cuts to federal spending.

Among the victims of those partisan fights was the effort to keep adequate supplies of masks, ventilators, pharmaceuticals and other medical equipment on hand to respond to a public health crisis. Lawmakers in both parties raised the specter of shortchanging future disaster response even as they voted to approve the cuts.


However if you're insist on blaming the White House. Trump was in office for 3 years and didn't do anything. He was slow to react to procuring supplies as well. Forcing states to go out and bid against other states for large supplies of PPE. Once the federal government did act they started bidding against other states thus making the problem worse.

It's the Tea Partys fault! Hahahahaha.

You cant buy entertainment like this.
It's the GOP in Congress rushed in with the wave of the tea party that didn't fund the national stockpile. They are the ones who voted against it.

If you want to blame presidents then why not add Trump to that list? He was president for 3 years before COVID happened.
They are the ones who voted against it.

Link?

That is from my link that I already provided.
You seem confused. I asked for a link to the vote, not an opinion piece.

Since you can't bring one to an actual vote, I will make it easy on you. Your opinion piece claimed they caused "sweeping cuts in federal spending".
Link us up to the year federal spending went down from the previous year under Barry.
This was the Obama administration's HHS budget request.

Medical Countermeasures: The HHS Medical Countermeasure Review, which was released in August 2010, described a new strategy focused on forging partnerships, minimizing constraints, modernizing regulatory oversight, and supporting transformational technologies. The Budget enhances the initiatives identified in the review. The request includes $665 million for the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, an increase of $345 million over FY 2010, to improve existing and develop new next-generation medical countermeasures to mitigate the medical consequences of potential chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear threats. As recommended in the review, the Budget also includes $100 million to establish a strategic investment corporation that would function as a publicprivate venture capital fund providing companies developing medical countermeasures with the necessary financial capital and business acumen to improve the chances of successful development of new medical countermeasure technologies and products. The Budget includes $70 million for FDA, which builds off of the $170 million request in FY 2011, to establish teams of public health experts to support the review of medical countermeasures and novel manufacturing approaches and examine the legal framework and regulatory and policy approaches. Additionally, NIH will dedicate $55 million towards expanding the Concept Acceleration Program, which individually helps shepherd investigators who have promising, early-stage, medical countermeasure products, but limited product development experience, to more rapidly develop and test their products to the clinical evaluation stages. Finally, the Budget includes $655 million, an increase of $59 million over FY 2010, for the Strategic National Stockpile to replace expiring products, support BioShield acquisitions, and fill gaps in the stockpile inventory.

The Republicans who held the majority in the House didn't put this into the budget to vote for. My link referenced this document, you chose to either not read it or understand it.

Obama administration asked, Republicans who controlled the purse strings said no. That too is referenced in my link:

But efforts to bulk up the stockpile fell apart in tense standoffs between the Obama White House and congressional Republicans, according to administration and congressional officials involved in the negotiations. Had Congress kept funding at the 2010 level through the end of the Obama administration, the stockpile would have benefited from $321 million more than it ended up getting, according to budget documents reviewed by ProPublica. During the Trump administration, Congress started giving the stockpile more than the White House requested.

Obama administration wanted to fund it, Republicans didn't and the Republicans won since they controlled Congress. You're asking for something that doesn't exist, a vote for a specific piece of the budget. I get that you understand none of this.
Barry’s budget that year got ZERO votes in the Senate. Not a single Dimwinger voted for it, so tell us again how the Tea Party shot it down, Stupid.

The national stockpile funding was killed in the House by Republicans. Do try to keep up.
Not true....
 

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If we had our own national supply of medical grade N95 masks the infection and death rate would be a lot lower....but Obama and Biden allowed all of our medical supply manufacturing to move to China after Obamacare placed outrageous taxes on those companies....
They all left and went into the open arms of the Red menace...and China refused to sell us masks in a timely fashion...all while Americans died needlessly....now Biden will reinstitute those taxes ensuring those companies will remain abroad....
Funding for stockpiling of medical supplies is a debate that happens in Congress.


How Tea Party Budget Battles Left the National Emergency Medical Stockpile Unprepared for Coronavirus
Fiscal restraints imposed by Republicans in Congress in the early years of the Obama administration left the U.S. less prepared to respond to the coronavirus pandemic today.

Dire shortages of vital medical equipment in the Strategic National Stockpile that are now hampering the coronavirus response trace back to the budget wars of the Obama years, when congressional Republicans elected on the Tea Party wave forced the White House to accept sweeping cuts to federal spending.

Among the victims of those partisan fights was the effort to keep adequate supplies of masks, ventilators, pharmaceuticals and other medical equipment on hand to respond to a public health crisis. Lawmakers in both parties raised the specter of shortchanging future disaster response even as they voted to approve the cuts.


However if you're insist on blaming the White House. Trump was in office for 3 years and didn't do anything. He was slow to react to procuring supplies as well. Forcing states to go out and bid against other states for large supplies of PPE. Once the federal government did act they started bidding against other states thus making the problem worse.

It's the Tea Partys fault! Hahahahaha.

You cant buy entertainment like this.
It's the GOP in Congress rushed in with the wave of the tea party that didn't fund the national stockpile. They are the ones who voted against it.

If you want to blame presidents then why not add Trump to that list? He was president for 3 years before COVID happened.
They are the ones who voted against it.

Link?

That is from my link that I already provided.
You seem confused. I asked for a link to the vote, not an opinion piece.

Since you can't bring one to an actual vote, I will make it easy on you. Your opinion piece claimed they caused "sweeping cuts in federal spending".
Link us up to the year federal spending went down from the previous year under Barry.
This was the Obama administration's HHS budget request.

Medical Countermeasures: The HHS Medical Countermeasure Review, which was released in August 2010, described a new strategy focused on forging partnerships, minimizing constraints, modernizing regulatory oversight, and supporting transformational technologies. The Budget enhances the initiatives identified in the review. The request includes $665 million for the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, an increase of $345 million over FY 2010, to improve existing and develop new next-generation medical countermeasures to mitigate the medical consequences of potential chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear threats. As recommended in the review, the Budget also includes $100 million to establish a strategic investment corporation that would function as a publicprivate venture capital fund providing companies developing medical countermeasures with the necessary financial capital and business acumen to improve the chances of successful development of new medical countermeasure technologies and products. The Budget includes $70 million for FDA, which builds off of the $170 million request in FY 2011, to establish teams of public health experts to support the review of medical countermeasures and novel manufacturing approaches and examine the legal framework and regulatory and policy approaches. Additionally, NIH will dedicate $55 million towards expanding the Concept Acceleration Program, which individually helps shepherd investigators who have promising, early-stage, medical countermeasure products, but limited product development experience, to more rapidly develop and test their products to the clinical evaluation stages. Finally, the Budget includes $655 million, an increase of $59 million over FY 2010, for the Strategic National Stockpile to replace expiring products, support BioShield acquisitions, and fill gaps in the stockpile inventory.

The Republicans who held the majority in the House didn't put this into the budget to vote for. My link referenced this document, you chose to either not read it or understand it.

Obama administration asked, Republicans who controlled the purse strings said no. That too is referenced in my link:

But efforts to bulk up the stockpile fell apart in tense standoffs between the Obama White House and congressional Republicans, according to administration and congressional officials involved in the negotiations. Had Congress kept funding at the 2010 level through the end of the Obama administration, the stockpile would have benefited from $321 million more than it ended up getting, according to budget documents reviewed by ProPublica. During the Trump administration, Congress started giving the stockpile more than the White House requested.

Obama administration wanted to fund it, Republicans didn't and the Republicans won since they controlled Congress. You're asking for something that doesn't exist, a vote for a specific piece of the budget. I get that you understand none of this.
Barry’s budget that year got ZERO votes in the Senate. Not a single Dimwinger voted for it, so tell us again how the Tea Party shot it down, Stupid.

The national stockpile funding was killed in the House by Republicans. Do try to keep up.
Not true....
It is, I just posted the HHS budget proposal that the Republicans in the house didn't take up.

What do you have other than your rhetorical failure?
 

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If we had our own national supply of medical grade N95 masks the infection and death rate would be a lot lower....but Obama and Biden allowed all of our medical supply manufacturing to move to China after Obamacare placed outrageous taxes on those companies....
They all left and went into the open arms of the Red menace...and China refused to sell us masks in a timely fashion...all while Americans died needlessly....now Biden will reinstitute those taxes ensuring those companies will remain abroad....
Funding for stockpiling of medical supplies is a debate that happens in Congress.


How Tea Party Budget Battles Left the National Emergency Medical Stockpile Unprepared for Coronavirus
Fiscal restraints imposed by Republicans in Congress in the early years of the Obama administration left the U.S. less prepared to respond to the coronavirus pandemic today.

Dire shortages of vital medical equipment in the Strategic National Stockpile that are now hampering the coronavirus response trace back to the budget wars of the Obama years, when congressional Republicans elected on the Tea Party wave forced the White House to accept sweeping cuts to federal spending.

Among the victims of those partisan fights was the effort to keep adequate supplies of masks, ventilators, pharmaceuticals and other medical equipment on hand to respond to a public health crisis. Lawmakers in both parties raised the specter of shortchanging future disaster response even as they voted to approve the cuts.


However if you're insist on blaming the White House. Trump was in office for 3 years and didn't do anything. He was slow to react to procuring supplies as well. Forcing states to go out and bid against other states for large supplies of PPE. Once the federal government did act they started bidding against other states thus making the problem worse.

It's the Tea Partys fault! Hahahahaha.

You cant buy entertainment like this.
It's the GOP in Congress rushed in with the wave of the tea party that didn't fund the national stockpile. They are the ones who voted against it.

If you want to blame presidents then why not add Trump to that list? He was president for 3 years before COVID happened.
They are the ones who voted against it.

Link?

That is from my link that I already provided.
You seem confused. I asked for a link to the vote, not an opinion piece.

Since you can't bring one to an actual vote, I will make it easy on you. Your opinion piece claimed they caused "sweeping cuts in federal spending".
Link us up to the year federal spending went down from the previous year under Barry.
This was the Obama administration's HHS budget request.

Medical Countermeasures: The HHS Medical Countermeasure Review, which was released in August 2010, described a new strategy focused on forging partnerships, minimizing constraints, modernizing regulatory oversight, and supporting transformational technologies. The Budget enhances the initiatives identified in the review. The request includes $665 million for the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, an increase of $345 million over FY 2010, to improve existing and develop new next-generation medical countermeasures to mitigate the medical consequences of potential chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear threats. As recommended in the review, the Budget also includes $100 million to establish a strategic investment corporation that would function as a publicprivate venture capital fund providing companies developing medical countermeasures with the necessary financial capital and business acumen to improve the chances of successful development of new medical countermeasure technologies and products. The Budget includes $70 million for FDA, which builds off of the $170 million request in FY 2011, to establish teams of public health experts to support the review of medical countermeasures and novel manufacturing approaches and examine the legal framework and regulatory and policy approaches. Additionally, NIH will dedicate $55 million towards expanding the Concept Acceleration Program, which individually helps shepherd investigators who have promising, early-stage, medical countermeasure products, but limited product development experience, to more rapidly develop and test their products to the clinical evaluation stages. Finally, the Budget includes $655 million, an increase of $59 million over FY 2010, for the Strategic National Stockpile to replace expiring products, support BioShield acquisitions, and fill gaps in the stockpile inventory.

The Republicans who held the majority in the House didn't put this into the budget to vote for. My link referenced this document, you chose to either not read it or understand it.

Obama administration asked, Republicans who controlled the purse strings said no. That too is referenced in my link:

But efforts to bulk up the stockpile fell apart in tense standoffs between the Obama White House and congressional Republicans, according to administration and congressional officials involved in the negotiations. Had Congress kept funding at the 2010 level through the end of the Obama administration, the stockpile would have benefited from $321 million more than it ended up getting, according to budget documents reviewed by ProPublica. During the Trump administration, Congress started giving the stockpile more than the White House requested.

Obama administration wanted to fund it, Republicans didn't and the Republicans won since they controlled Congress. You're asking for something that doesn't exist, a vote for a specific piece of the budget. I get that you understand none of this.
Barry’s budget that year got ZERO votes in the Senate. Not a single Dimwinger voted for it, so tell us again how the Tea Party shot it down, Stupid.

The national stockpile funding was killed in the House by Republicans. Do try to keep up.
Not true....
It is, I just posted the HHS budget proposal that the Republicans in the house didn't take up.

What do you have other than your rhetorical failure?
Look at it again...,.
 

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If we had our own national supply of medical grade N95 masks the infection and death rate would be a lot lower....but Obama and Biden allowed all of our medical supply manufacturing to move to China after Obamacare placed outrageous taxes on those companies....
They all left and went into the open arms of the Red menace...and China refused to sell us masks in a timely fashion...all while Americans died needlessly....now Biden will reinstitute those taxes ensuring those companies will remain abroad....
Funding for stockpiling of medical supplies is a debate that happens in Congress.


How Tea Party Budget Battles Left the National Emergency Medical Stockpile Unprepared for Coronavirus
Fiscal restraints imposed by Republicans in Congress in the early years of the Obama administration left the U.S. less prepared to respond to the coronavirus pandemic today.

Dire shortages of vital medical equipment in the Strategic National Stockpile that are now hampering the coronavirus response trace back to the budget wars of the Obama years, when congressional Republicans elected on the Tea Party wave forced the White House to accept sweeping cuts to federal spending.

Among the victims of those partisan fights was the effort to keep adequate supplies of masks, ventilators, pharmaceuticals and other medical equipment on hand to respond to a public health crisis. Lawmakers in both parties raised the specter of shortchanging future disaster response even as they voted to approve the cuts.


However if you're insist on blaming the White House. Trump was in office for 3 years and didn't do anything. He was slow to react to procuring supplies as well. Forcing states to go out and bid against other states for large supplies of PPE. Once the federal government did act they started bidding against other states thus making the problem worse.

It's the Tea Partys fault! Hahahahaha.

You cant buy entertainment like this.
It's the GOP in Congress rushed in with the wave of the tea party that didn't fund the national stockpile. They are the ones who voted against it.

If you want to blame presidents then why not add Trump to that list? He was president for 3 years before COVID happened.
They are the ones who voted against it.

Link?

That is from my link that I already provided.
You seem confused. I asked for a link to the vote, not an opinion piece.

Since you can't bring one to an actual vote, I will make it easy on you. Your opinion piece claimed they caused "sweeping cuts in federal spending".
Link us up to the year federal spending went down from the previous year under Barry.
This was the Obama administration's HHS budget request.

Medical Countermeasures: The HHS Medical Countermeasure Review, which was released in August 2010, described a new strategy focused on forging partnerships, minimizing constraints, modernizing regulatory oversight, and supporting transformational technologies. The Budget enhances the initiatives identified in the review. The request includes $665 million for the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, an increase of $345 million over FY 2010, to improve existing and develop new next-generation medical countermeasures to mitigate the medical consequences of potential chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear threats. As recommended in the review, the Budget also includes $100 million to establish a strategic investment corporation that would function as a publicprivate venture capital fund providing companies developing medical countermeasures with the necessary financial capital and business acumen to improve the chances of successful development of new medical countermeasure technologies and products. The Budget includes $70 million for FDA, which builds off of the $170 million request in FY 2011, to establish teams of public health experts to support the review of medical countermeasures and novel manufacturing approaches and examine the legal framework and regulatory and policy approaches. Additionally, NIH will dedicate $55 million towards expanding the Concept Acceleration Program, which individually helps shepherd investigators who have promising, early-stage, medical countermeasure products, but limited product development experience, to more rapidly develop and test their products to the clinical evaluation stages. Finally, the Budget includes $655 million, an increase of $59 million over FY 2010, for the Strategic National Stockpile to replace expiring products, support BioShield acquisitions, and fill gaps in the stockpile inventory.

The Republicans who held the majority in the House didn't put this into the budget to vote for. My link referenced this document, you chose to either not read it or understand it.

Obama administration asked, Republicans who controlled the purse strings said no. That too is referenced in my link:

But efforts to bulk up the stockpile fell apart in tense standoffs between the Obama White House and congressional Republicans, according to administration and congressional officials involved in the negotiations. Had Congress kept funding at the 2010 level through the end of the Obama administration, the stockpile would have benefited from $321 million more than it ended up getting, according to budget documents reviewed by ProPublica. During the Trump administration, Congress started giving the stockpile more than the White House requested.

Obama administration wanted to fund it, Republicans didn't and the Republicans won since they controlled Congress. You're asking for something that doesn't exist, a vote for a specific piece of the budget. I get that you understand none of this.
Barry’s budget that year got ZERO votes in the Senate. Not a single Dimwinger voted for it, so tell us again how the Tea Party shot it down, Stupid.

The national stockpile funding was killed in the House by Republicans. Do try to keep up.
Not true....
It is, I just posted the HHS budget proposal that the Republicans in the house didn't take up.

What do you have other than your rhetorical failure?
Look at it again...,.
I did and I bolded the pertinent part
 
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If we had our own national supply of medical grade N95 masks the infection and death rate would be a lot lower....but Obama and Biden allowed all of our medical supply manufacturing to move to China after Obamacare placed outrageous taxes on those companies....
They all left and went into the open arms of the Red menace...and China refused to sell us masks in a timely fashion...all while Americans died needlessly....now Biden will reinstitute those taxes ensuring those companies will remain abroad....
Funding for stockpiling of medical supplies is a debate that happens in Congress.


How Tea Party Budget Battles Left the National Emergency Medical Stockpile Unprepared for Coronavirus
Fiscal restraints imposed by Republicans in Congress in the early years of the Obama administration left the U.S. less prepared to respond to the coronavirus pandemic today.

Dire shortages of vital medical equipment in the Strategic National Stockpile that are now hampering the coronavirus response trace back to the budget wars of the Obama years, when congressional Republicans elected on the Tea Party wave forced the White House to accept sweeping cuts to federal spending.

Among the victims of those partisan fights was the effort to keep adequate supplies of masks, ventilators, pharmaceuticals and other medical equipment on hand to respond to a public health crisis. Lawmakers in both parties raised the specter of shortchanging future disaster response even as they voted to approve the cuts.


However if you're insist on blaming the White House. Trump was in office for 3 years and didn't do anything. He was slow to react to procuring supplies as well. Forcing states to go out and bid against other states for large supplies of PPE. Once the federal government did act they started bidding against other states thus making the problem worse.

It's the Tea Partys fault! Hahahahaha.

You cant buy entertainment like this.
It's the GOP in Congress rushed in with the wave of the tea party that didn't fund the national stockpile. They are the ones who voted against it.

If you want to blame presidents then why not add Trump to that list? He was president for 3 years before COVID happened.
They are the ones who voted against it.

Link?

That is from my link that I already provided.
You seem confused. I asked for a link to the vote, not an opinion piece.

Since you can't bring one to an actual vote, I will make it easy on you. Your opinion piece claimed they caused "sweeping cuts in federal spending".
Link us up to the year federal spending went down from the previous year under Barry.
This was the Obama administration's HHS budget request.

Medical Countermeasures: The HHS Medical Countermeasure Review, which was released in August 2010, described a new strategy focused on forging partnerships, minimizing constraints, modernizing regulatory oversight, and supporting transformational technologies. The Budget enhances the initiatives identified in the review. The request includes $665 million for the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, an increase of $345 million over FY 2010, to improve existing and develop new next-generation medical countermeasures to mitigate the medical consequences of potential chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear threats. As recommended in the review, the Budget also includes $100 million to establish a strategic investment corporation that would function as a publicprivate venture capital fund providing companies developing medical countermeasures with the necessary financial capital and business acumen to improve the chances of successful development of new medical countermeasure technologies and products. The Budget includes $70 million for FDA, which builds off of the $170 million request in FY 2011, to establish teams of public health experts to support the review of medical countermeasures and novel manufacturing approaches and examine the legal framework and regulatory and policy approaches. Additionally, NIH will dedicate $55 million towards expanding the Concept Acceleration Program, which individually helps shepherd investigators who have promising, early-stage, medical countermeasure products, but limited product development experience, to more rapidly develop and test their products to the clinical evaluation stages. Finally, the Budget includes $655 million, an increase of $59 million over FY 2010, for the Strategic National Stockpile to replace expiring products, support BioShield acquisitions, and fill gaps in the stockpile inventory.

The Republicans who held the majority in the House didn't put this into the budget to vote for. My link referenced this document, you chose to either not read it or understand it.

Obama administration asked, Republicans who controlled the purse strings said no. That too is referenced in my link:

But efforts to bulk up the stockpile fell apart in tense standoffs between the Obama White House and congressional Republicans, according to administration and congressional officials involved in the negotiations. Had Congress kept funding at the 2010 level through the end of the Obama administration, the stockpile would have benefited from $321 million more than it ended up getting, according to budget documents reviewed by ProPublica. During the Trump administration, Congress started giving the stockpile more than the White House requested.

Obama administration wanted to fund it, Republicans didn't and the Republicans won since they controlled Congress. You're asking for something that doesn't exist, a vote for a specific piece of the budget. I get that you understand none of this.
Barry’s budget that year got ZERO votes in the Senate. Not a single Dimwinger voted for it, so tell us again how the Tea Party shot it down, Stupid.

The national stockpile funding was killed in the House by Republicans. Do try to keep up.
Not true....
It is, I just posted the HHS budget proposal that the Republicans in the house didn't take up.

What do you have other than your rhetorical failure?
That was part of Barry’s budget that got ZERO votes in the Senate, Stupid.
 

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It's weird that you guys don't get how the response to COVID is going to change as new information is gained.
It's weird how you guys have bitched and moaned since Jan that Trump didn't know exactly what to do from day one.

....and yet you are here defending the latest flip-flop from the "foremost expert on controlling a virus"
No we didn't. We bitched and moaned because Trump rejected Dr. Faucci's advice from the get go and did things that went against science. When you look at other countries which did follow the scientists - New Zealand, Australia, Canada, Germany for example - all had better outcomes, not just with the disease, but with their economies as well.

There is absolutely no defence for the manner in which Donald Trump mishandled the pandemic, from his early denials of the problem, to his failure to do anything in regards to the crisis after the election, while he focused on trying to overturn the results.

Trying to blame Faucci for Trump's clusterfuck is a dog that just won't hunt.
We bitched and moaned because Trump rejected Dr. Faucci's advice from the get go and did things that went against science.

What did Trump reject? Be specific and bring links.

This is where you try to cover your lies with "google it".
Testing & Contact Tracing

Trump didn't want to test because that would make the numbers look worse. Fauci wanted more testing to understand the extent of the virus.

When we found out how and to what extent the virus spreads Fauci and others were for masks. Trump held out, his own townhalls were mask free.

Hydroxychloroquine

It was proven to be less than helpful. Trump wouldn't shut up about it, Fauci knew, after testing that it didn't work. As is noted in this study:


It hasn't gone unnoticed that you haven't provided shit for your argument other than repeating yourself.
Fauci was pimping fear and trying to sell it as his buddy cuomo and others stood to make billions $$$ off the covid scare to which like cuomo, fauci would be getting his kickbacks. Again, the masks don't stop the spread of this virus or any other virus because well virus' are tiny---------very tiny--smaller than even bacteria so masks can't stop them. Thought you should know.

Dem leaders and their brown shirt thugs often were without masks during their riots and looting--------talk about spreading the disease but here you are worried about a bunch of polite respectful trump supporters spreading the virus when he didn't matter. 70% of those that got virus---reported that they wore the masks.
 

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Anyone who still believes there is CV19 in the US is a certifiable sub human invalid.
Hey shit for brains, my daughter recently had it. She still has breathing difficulty. Now, go climb back under that rock from whence you slithered.
The N95 masks are the only ones that work...the CDC and Fauci has said that cotton will not work...but then the dems and lovers of China realized that China had all of the N95 masks because they sent those jobs to China...so when China wouldn't sell us any back they had to switch their message to cotton was ok to use...all of a sudden there were thousands of cotton masks on the shelves and patterns on line to make your own useless mask....
How many times does it have to be explained to you idiots? Masks protect other people from YOU, unless you are wearing your vaunted N95, which protects you.
You should stay inside and hunker down. I haven't worn one not will I start.
How many people did you infect while you were asymptomatic?
Im sorry to hear that and I hope she gets better. My brother in law had it, friends of mine etc. I haven't infected anyone.
So you know what asymptomatic means, dumbass?
yep, made up to make things look bad. yep, this virus is sooooo bad that you can have it and have no symptoms. hahahaahahahahaha getting played by politicians isn't a good look for you Admiral.
 

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Times change, with new information on the NOVEL virus...and with these new variations developing that are 7 times more contagious...

Bottom line, we all need N95 masks, the govt should supply them for us.
prove it
 

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