CDZ Yes, Canada is a National Security threat, debate if you wish

[shockedcanadian]

This was from another post, but I figured I would give it it's own thread as many of you will hear the little tiff between Trudeau and Trump. I would put it in politics, but since there's no link I didn't want it moved.

In all honesty, I think there is plenty of room for Trump to ht back with broader tariffs against Canada until we embrace capitalism and liberty. Anyways, below is what I typed up:

I will challenge anyone to argue that these tactics don't represent a National Security threat to America.

1) Canada allows Third Country Exports across the U.S border, especially from China; as they leverage NAFTA, for Canada and the third nations benefit

2) Canada allows, sometimes in plain site, Intellectual Property theft, abuses. We have entire massive malls here in Toronto where out in the open you can see knock off movies, fashion, high end sunglasses, you name it, that are fake U.S products. They are shyte made in China, sold for full retail price, and they are clearly fake. The question is, knowing how centrally controlled the Canadian economy is, how much does the state of Canada benefit from this, and why are some of these malls who've been around for 20+ years, not shut down?

3) We enter U.S corporations on Canadian soil, tamper with HR depts, spread interest in unions and other nefarious tactics that I know of first hand, they would shock Americans.

4) We have zero enforcement of bribery. In fact, there is an International agency that oversees this that places Canada on the absolte bottom, second worst if Britain.

5) We support supply management and even today in Parliament Trudeau said "I will never stop supporting supply management". This is nothing more than full blown communism of another name.

6) Excessive protectionism. We've had complaints from Australia, NZ and many others. We pretend to be free market, but that's only if your jobs are coming to us, not vice versa.

7) Not so hidden grants to auto companies like GM to the tune of $400M, recently Toyota for $150M more. On top of additional costs which are in effect, tariffs, 13% GST tax, subsidies, barriers to U.S and foreign products and of course, that all encompassing Nation Security which Trump wisely leveraged.

Go back to my posts soon after Trump won, a lengthy post in which I outlined how Canada does all of this to violate NAFTA via National Security, it just not promoted as America has been getting fleeced by everyone, so noone cares.

God Bless America Get 'er done Trump!

$400 million?$150 million? Pikers! US states have dropped $17 billion in subsidies on automakers. Not the federal government - states. Christ, a small town in America will subsidize Walmart to the tune of a few million.

How about the rest of it?

Openly allows intellectual property theft? Bullshit.

Every country that imports, assembles and exports allows 3rd-country-exports. It's not hidden.

Canada requires foreign corporations operating on Canadian soil to follow Canadian HR laws? Oh, say it ain't so. Why don't you let them pay the Burundi minimum wage?

Supply management? That's between you and you. Canadian doesn't manage for any other nation, and the US is involved in Supply management in different ways, including our agricultural supports, and our foreign relations programs.

"Zero enforcement of bribery"? Again, bullshit.

For God's sake, if you love Trump so much, take him with you.

Took me 10 seconds on useless google, I could have posted 20 more, maybe 50 more if I used a beter search engine like duckduckgo

Your opinion on supply management is a huge issue, it impacts all exporters into Canada. This is Communism, plain and simple. America and the West fought communism only to embrace it and trade with those who do?

Canada ranked worst of G7 nations in fighting bribery, corruption
Canada ranked worst of G7 nations in fighting bribery, corruption

Canada coddles counterfeiters
Canada coddles counterfeiters

 

[Penelope]

This was from another post, but I figured I would give it it's own thread as many of you will hear the little tiff between Trudeau and Trump. I would put it in politics, but since there's no link I didn't want it moved.

In all honesty, I think there is plenty of room for Trump to ht back with broader tariffs against Canada until we embrace capitalism and liberty. Anyways, below is what I typed up:

I will challenge anyone to argue that these tactics don't represent a National Security threat to America.

1) Canada allows Third Country Exports across the U.S border, especially from China; as they leverage NAFTA, for Canada and the third nations benefit

2) Canada allows, sometimes in plain site, Intellectual Property theft, abuses. We have entire massive malls here in Toronto where out in the open you can see knock off movies, fashion, high end sunglasses, you name it, that are fake U.S products. They are shyte made in China, sold for full retail price, and they are clearly fake. The question is, knowing how centrally controlled the Canadian economy is, how much does the state of Canada benefit from this, and why are some of these malls who've been around for 20+ years, not shut down?

3) We enter U.S corporations on Canadian soil, tamper with HR depts, spread interest in unions and other nefarious tactics that I know of first hand, they would shock Americans.

4) We have zero enforcement of bribery. In fact, there is an International agency that oversees this that places Canada on the absolte bottom, second worst if Britain.

5) We support supply management and even today in Parliament Trudeau said "I will never stop supporting supply management". This is nothing more than full blown communism of another name.

6) Excessive protectionism. We've had complaints from Australia, NZ and many others. We pretend to be free market, but that's only if your jobs are coming to us, not vice versa.

7) Not so hidden grants to auto companies like GM to the tune of $400M, recently Toyota for $150M more. On top of additional costs which are in effect, tariffs, 13% GST tax, subsidies, barriers to U.S and foreign products and of course, that all encompassing Nation Security which Trump wisely leveraged.

Go back to my posts soon after Trump won, a lengthy post in which I outlined how Canada does all of this to violate NAFTA via National Security, it just not promoted as America has been getting fleeced by everyone, so noone cares.

God Bless America Get 'er done Trump!

$400 million?$150 million? Pikers! US states have dropped $17 billion in subsidies on automakers. Not the federal government - states. Christ, a small town in America will subsidize Walmart to the tune of a few million.

How about the rest of it?

Openly allows intellectual property theft? Bullshit.

Every country that imports, assembles and exports allows 3rd-country-exports. It's not hidden.

Canada requires foreign corporations operating on Canadian soil to follow Canadian HR laws? Oh, say it ain't so. Why don't you let them pay the Burundi minimum wage?

Supply management? That's between you and you. Canadian doesn't manage for any other nation, and the US is involved in Supply management in different ways, including our agricultural supports, and our foreign relations programs.

"Zero enforcement of bribery"? Again, bullshit.

For God's sake, if you love Trump so much, take him with you.

Took me 10 seconds on useless google, I could have posted 20 more, maybe 50 more if I used a beter search engine like duckduckgo

Your opinion on supply management is a huge issue, it impacts all exporters into Canada. This is Communism, plain and simple. America and the West fought communism only to embrace it and trade with those who do?

Canada ranked worst of G7 nations in fighting bribery, corruption
Canada ranked worst of G7 nations in fighting bribery, corruption

Canada coddles counterfeiters
Canada coddles counterfeiters

Corruption in the USA: The difference a year makes

 

[joaquinmiller]

This was from another post, but I figured I would give it it's own thread as many of you will hear the little tiff between Trudeau and Trump. I would put it in politics, but since there's no link I didn't want it moved.

In all honesty, I think there is plenty of room for Trump to ht back with broader tariffs against Canada until we embrace capitalism and liberty. Anyways, below is what I typed up:

I will challenge anyone to argue that these tactics don't represent a National Security threat to America.

1) Canada allows Third Country Exports across the U.S border, especially from China; as they leverage NAFTA, for Canada and the third nations benefit

2) Canada allows, sometimes in plain site, Intellectual Property theft, abuses. We have entire massive malls here in Toronto where out in the open you can see knock off movies, fashion, high end sunglasses, you name it, that are fake U.S products. They are shyte made in China, sold for full retail price, and they are clearly fake. The question is, knowing how centrally controlled the Canadian economy is, how much does the state of Canada benefit from this, and why are some of these malls who've been around for 20+ years, not shut down?

3) We enter U.S corporations on Canadian soil, tamper with HR depts, spread interest in unions and other nefarious tactics that I know of first hand, they would shock Americans.

4) We have zero enforcement of bribery. In fact, there is an International agency that oversees this that places Canada on the absolte bottom, second worst if Britain.

5) We support supply management and even today in Parliament Trudeau said "I will never stop supporting supply management". This is nothing more than full blown communism of another name.

6) Excessive protectionism. We've had complaints from Australia, NZ and many others. We pretend to be free market, but that's only if your jobs are coming to us, not vice versa.

7) Not so hidden grants to auto companies like GM to the tune of $400M, recently Toyota for $150M more. On top of additional costs which are in effect, tariffs, 13% GST tax, subsidies, barriers to U.S and foreign products and of course, that all encompassing Nation Security which Trump wisely leveraged.

Go back to my posts soon after Trump won, a lengthy post in which I outlined how Canada does all of this to violate NAFTA via National Security, it just not promoted as America has been getting fleeced by everyone, so noone cares.

God Bless America Get 'er done Trump!

$400 million?$150 million? Pikers! US states have dropped $17 billion in subsidies on automakers. Not the federal government - states. Christ, a small town in America will subsidize Walmart to the tune of a few million.

How about the rest of it?

Openly allows intellectual property theft? Bullshit.

Every country that imports, assembles and exports allows 3rd-country-exports. It's not hidden.

Canada requires foreign corporations operating on Canadian soil to follow Canadian HR laws? Oh, say it ain't so. Why don't you let them pay the Burundi minimum wage?

Supply management? That's between you and you. Canadian doesn't manage for any other nation, and the US is involved in Supply management in different ways, including our agricultural supports, and our foreign relations programs.

"Zero enforcement of bribery"? Again, bullshit.

For God's sake, if you love Trump so much, take him with you.

Took me 10 seconds on useless google, I could have posted 20 more, maybe 50 more if I used a beter search engine like duckduckgo

Your opinion on supply management is a huge issue, it impacts all exporters into Canada. This is Communism, plain and simple. America and the West fought communism only to embrace it and trade with those who do?

Canada ranked worst of G7 nations in fighting bribery, corruption
Canada ranked worst of G7 nations in fighting bribery, corruption

Canada coddles counterfeiters
Canada coddles counterfeiters

America and the West have mixed capitalist/socialist economies. We do business with communist countries, but no one is embracing communism. Get a grip.

Congratulations about the bribery thing. You have laws, enforced at least at times. Maybe you're just darned good people!

There are permanent 'flea markets' in the southeastern U.S. Most, if not all, offer a selection of counterfeit, or seemingly-counterfeit knockoffs. That's hardly unique to Canada. In a different vein, in some Miami neighborhoods, it's not uncommon to come upon a "truckload" sale of real or counterfeit clothing and purses. People never know when they'll get lucky.

 

[Penelope]

Corruption Perceptions Index 2017

with map. Looks like Canada is not as corruptible as the US, but still better than most, AT THIS time.

 

[joaquinmiller]

Corruption Perceptions Index 2017

with map. Looks like Canada is not as corruptible as the US.

At best, Canada is US-Lite when it comes to corruption.

 

[shockedcanadian]

This was from another post, but I figured I would give it it's own thread as many of you will hear the little tiff between Trudeau and Trump. I would put it in politics, but since there's no link I didn't want it moved.

In all honesty, I think there is plenty of room for Trump to ht back with broader tariffs against Canada until we embrace capitalism and liberty. Anyways, below is what I typed up:

I will challenge anyone to argue that these tactics don't represent a National Security threat to America.

1) Canada allows Third Country Exports across the U.S border, especially from China; as they leverage NAFTA, for Canada and the third nations benefit

2) Canada allows, sometimes in plain site, Intellectual Property theft, abuses. We have entire massive malls here in Toronto where out in the open you can see knock off movies, fashion, high end sunglasses, you name it, that are fake U.S products. They are shyte made in China, sold for full retail price, and they are clearly fake. The question is, knowing how centrally controlled the Canadian economy is, how much does the state of Canada benefit from this, and why are some of these malls who've been around for 20+ years, not shut down?

3) We enter U.S corporations on Canadian soil, tamper with HR depts, spread interest in unions and other nefarious tactics that I know of first hand, they would shock Americans.

4) We have zero enforcement of bribery. In fact, there is an International agency that oversees this that places Canada on the absolte bottom, second worst if Britain.

5) We support supply management and even today in Parliament Trudeau said "I will never stop supporting supply management". This is nothing more than full blown communism of another name.

6) Excessive protectionism. We've had complaints from Australia, NZ and many others. We pretend to be free market, but that's only if your jobs are coming to us, not vice versa.

7) Not so hidden grants to auto companies like GM to the tune of $400M, recently Toyota for $150M more. On top of additional costs which are in effect, tariffs, 13% GST tax, subsidies, barriers to U.S and foreign products and of course, that all encompassing Nation Security which Trump wisely leveraged.

Go back to my posts soon after Trump won, a lengthy post in which I outlined how Canada does all of this to violate NAFTA via National Security, it just not promoted as America has been getting fleeced by everyone, so noone cares.

God Bless America Get 'er done Trump!

$400 million?$150 million? Pikers! US states have dropped $17 billion in subsidies on automakers. Not the federal government - states. Christ, a small town in America will subsidize Walmart to the tune of a few million.

How about the rest of it?

Openly allows intellectual property theft? Bullshit.

Every country that imports, assembles and exports allows 3rd-country-exports. It's not hidden.

Canada requires foreign corporations operating on Canadian soil to follow Canadian HR laws? Oh, say it ain't so. Why don't you let them pay the Burundi minimum wage?

Supply management? That's between you and you. Canadian doesn't manage for any other nation, and the US is involved in Supply management in different ways, including our agricultural supports, and our foreign relations programs.

"Zero enforcement of bribery"? Again, bullshit.

For God's sake, if you love Trump so much, take him with you.

Took me 10 seconds on useless google, I could have posted 20 more, maybe 50 more if I used a beter search engine like duckduckgo

Your opinion on supply management is a huge issue, it impacts all exporters into Canada. This is Communism, plain and simple. America and the West fought communism only to embrace it and trade with those who do?

Canada ranked worst of G7 nations in fighting bribery, corruption
Canada ranked worst of G7 nations in fighting bribery, corruption

Canada coddles counterfeiters
Canada coddles counterfeiters

America and the West have mixed capitalist/socialist economies. We do business with communist countries, but no one is embracing communism. Get a grip.

Congratulations about the bribery thing. You have laws, enforced at least at times. Maybe you're just darned good people!

There are permanent 'flea markets' in the southeastern U.S. Most, if not all, offer a selection of counterfeit, or seemingly-counterfeit knockoffs. That's hardly unique to Canada. In a different vein, in some Miami neighborhoods, it's not uncommon to come upon a "truckload" sale of real or counterfeit clothing and purses. People never know when they'll get lucky.

Congratulations? According to those stats Canada had a total of 2 bribery charges over a 15 year period, America was first in the world with over 250, and they went after Big Dogs, not just small fish.

Do your homework. Canada and it's police agencies are not allies to the U.S. Period.

 

[Mac1958]

IT'S THAT LOUSY BEER I TELL YOU

 

[Rambunctious]

Maybe now Canada will attack us. If this keeps up, they wont loan us any steel. We are treating our neighbors like shit since Trump took office. Do you treat your neighbors that way?

Have you ever taken the time to look up all of the ever changing outrageous tariffs Canada places on our goods?
We need to produce our own steel...period...if you and Canada don't like it
too Bad!...

 

[Rambunctious]

I once got paid in Canadian for a project I did up there years ago.

It was the darndest thing

Amazing that can earn a paycheck from anyone with your weak response....

 

[joaquinmiller]

God Bless America Get 'er done Trump!

Trump is corrupt to the core. You don't know that hush money is a bribe? Not illegal in every case, but a bribe all the same.

 

[rightwinger]

Canada is massed at our border waiting to invade

We need a wall

They invade Florida annually.

Florida is a dry run

Soon they will invade North Dakota while nobody is looking

 

[Penelope]

$400 million?$150 million? Pikers! US states have dropped $17 billion in subsidies on automakers. Not the federal government - states. Christ, a small town in America will subsidize Walmart to the tune of a few million.

How about the rest of it?

Openly allows intellectual property theft? Bullshit.

Every country that imports, assembles and exports allows 3rd-country-exports. It's not hidden.

Canada requires foreign corporations operating on Canadian soil to follow Canadian HR laws? Oh, say it ain't so. Why don't you let them pay the Burundi minimum wage?

Supply management? That's between you and you. Canadian doesn't manage for any other nation, and the US is involved in Supply management in different ways, including our agricultural supports, and our foreign relations programs.

"Zero enforcement of bribery"? Again, bullshit.

For God's sake, if you love Trump so much, take him with you.

Took me 10 seconds on useless google, I could have posted 20 more, maybe 50 more if I used a beter search engine like duckduckgo

Your opinion on supply management is a huge issue, it impacts all exporters into Canada. This is Communism, plain and simple. America and the West fought communism only to embrace it and trade with those who do?

Canada ranked worst of G7 nations in fighting bribery, corruption
Canada ranked worst of G7 nations in fighting bribery, corruption

Canada coddles counterfeiters
Canada coddles counterfeiters

America and the West have mixed capitalist/socialist economies. We do business with communist countries, but no one is embracing communism. Get a grip.

Congratulations about the bribery thing. You have laws, enforced at least at times. Maybe you're just darned good people!

There are permanent 'flea markets' in the southeastern U.S. Most, if not all, offer a selection of counterfeit, or seemingly-counterfeit knockoffs. That's hardly unique to Canada. In a different vein, in some Miami neighborhoods, it's not uncommon to come upon a "truckload" sale of real or counterfeit clothing and purses. People never know when they'll get lucky.

Congratulations? According to those stats Canada had a total of 2 bribery charges over a 15 year period, America was first in the world with over 250, and they went after Big Dogs, not just small fish.

Do your homework. Canada and it's police agencies are not allies to the U.S. Period.

Canada has less pop than CA and maybe people are more honest in Canada.

 

[Penelope]

Maybe now Canada will attack us. If this keeps up, they wont loan us any steel. We are treating our neighbors like shit since Trump took office. Do you treat your neighbors that way?

Have you ever taken the time to look up all of the ever changing outrageous tariffs Canada places on our goods?
We need to produce our own steel...period...if you and Canada don't like it
too Bad!...

No what were they in 1016. We have a surplus trade with Canada.

These US industries would suffer most in a trade war with Canada

 

[Penelope]

Trump is sure good at beating up the little nations, that is why he is trying to get rid of the UN and is all for the demise of the EU.

 

[Rambunctious]

Maybe now Canada will attack us. If this keeps up, they wont loan us any steel. We are treating our neighbors like shit since Trump took office. Do you treat your neighbors that way?

Have you ever taken the time to look up all of the ever changing outrageous tariffs Canada places on our goods?
We need to produce our own steel...period...if you and Canada don't like it
too Bad!...

No what were they in 1016. We have a surplus trade with Canada.

These US industries would suffer most in a trade war with Canada

So your link deny's that fair trade is a good thing? If every other nation imposes tariffs on the US we should do same...or we end up with 10% unemployment like we had under Obama....

 

[Penelope]

Maybe now Canada will attack us. If this keeps up, they wont loan us any steel. We are treating our neighbors like shit since Trump took office. Do you treat your neighbors that way?

Have you ever taken the time to look up all of the ever changing outrageous tariffs Canada places on our goods?
We need to produce our own steel...period...if you and Canada don't like it
too Bad!...

No what were they in 1016. We have a surplus trade with Canada.

These US industries would suffer most in a trade war with Canada

So your link deny's that fair trade is a good thing? If every other nation imposes tariffs on the US we should do same...or we end up with 10% unemployment like we had under Obama....

You can blame it on Clinton is you want, but they didn't join till 2001, and the Rep congress were holding impeachment over his head. Nafta was Bush Sr. (Clinton just signed it) Cafta was Bush Jr.
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THE CHINA TRADE VOTE: A CLINTON TRIUMPH; HOUSE, IN 237-197 VOTE, APPROVES NORMAL TRADE RIGHTS FOR CHINA

By ERIC SCHMITT and JOSEPH KAHNMAY 25, 2000

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· In a stunning victory for the Clinton administration and corporate America, the House today swept aside economic restrictions on China that were part of anti-Communist policy for two decades.

By a surprisingly wide margin, 237 to 197, lawmakers voted to give Beijing permanent normal trading privileges after months of fierce lobbying that pitted business against organized labor. A larger-than-expected Republican majority delivered President Clinton's top remaining legislative priority: three out of four Republicans voted in favor; two out of three Democrats voted against.

The vote virtually assures the end of the annual Congressional review of China's trade status, a ritual for 20 years that Beijing considers humiliating but that opponents argue is a lever for improving human rights. Congress has approved the trade status every year. The Senate is expected to endorse the permanent measure as early as next month, but may question some of the amendments the House added to the bill.

With his time in office winding down, Mr. Clinton threw the powers of the presidency behind passing the measure, which he considers a crowning foreign policy triumph. He met with more than 100 lawmakers face to face or in groups, called scores more by phone, and traveled to Congressional districts in the Midwest and California to rally support.

''The House of Representatives has taken an historic step toward continued prosperity in America, reform in China and peace in the world,'' Mr. Clinton said in a Rose Garden ceremony.

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The agreement slashes Chinese tariffs on a wide range of farm and industrial products and removes some barriers to American service providers, like banks and telecommunications companies. And it puts the United States and China on equal footing as China enters the World Trade Organization, the 135-member trade group that sets the rules for global commerce.

Gov. George W. Bush of Texas, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee who has often voiced support for the legislation, hailed the vote. ''Passage of this legislation will mean a stronger American economy, as well as more opportunity for liberty and freedom in China,'' Mr. Bush said in a statement.

Vice President Al Gore, who has walked a political tightrope between his labor allies and President Clinton, also voiced support for the bill today, but qualified it by saying that more had to be done to guarantee American workers' rights. ''We must continue our efforts to assure that workers will succeed in a global economy,'' he said in a statement.

https://www.nytimes.com/2000/05/25/world/china-trade-vote-clinton-triumph-house-237-197-vote-approves-normal-trade-rights.html


https://web.archive.org/web/20110515133508/http://edition.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/east/04/05/china.WTO/

April 6, 2001
Web posted at: 4:25 AM EDT (0825 GMT)

In April this year in Geneva, China's accession into the WTO is up for discussion and one of the main sticking points has been agricultural subsidies. China wants to be classified as a developing nation, which would allow it to keep farm subsidies for ten years after WTO membership.

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While Bush backs China's WTO entry, he is not climbing down on the subsidy issue.

He told the American Society of Newspaper Editors Annual Convention, "China ought to be a trading partner of ours. I think it is in our economic interests to open up the Chinese markets to U.S. products, to U.S. agricultural products.”

However, bilateral trade flows became increasingly imbalanced over the decade of the 1990s. By 2000 the U.S. bilateral deficit reached $84 billion and for the first time exceeded the bilateral deficit with Japan. (me-even then he wanted China to enter the WTO)

Issues in China’s WTO Accession

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The corps and businesses took jobs away and now they get rewarded by lower taxes. LOL

 

[joaquinmiller]

Maybe now Canada will attack us. If this keeps up, they wont loan us any steel. We are treating our neighbors like shit since Trump took office. Do you treat your neighbors that way?

Have you ever taken the time to look up all of the ever changing outrageous tariffs Canada places on our goods?
We need to produce our own steel...period...if you and Canada don't like it
too Bad!...

No what were they in 1016. We have a surplus trade with Canada.

These US industries would suffer most in a trade war with Canada

So your link deny's that fair trade is a good thing? If every other nation imposes tariffs on the US we should do same...or we end up with 10% unemployment like we had under Obama....

10%? Did you know that under George Bush, the average height of each of the Twin Towers was 55 floors? Under Obama, the average height was zero. Obviously, Bush did a better job with respect to the Twin Towers.

When Obama left office, unemployment was 4.8% and dropping, on the strength of 75 consecutive months of job growth. The economy is doing well - with NAFTA in place - despite the wailing and hair-pulling. Obama handed off a strong economy to Trump. Give the tax cuts and tariffs time to saturate the system, and then we'll know more about President Hush Money's economy.

 

[Syriusly]

This was from another post, but I figured I would give it it's own thread as many of you will hear the little tiff between Trudeau and Trump. I would put it in politics, but since there's no link I didn't want it moved.

In all honesty, I think there is plenty of room for Trump to ht back with broader tariffs against Canada until we embrace capitalism and liberty. Anyways, below is what I typed up:

I will challenge anyone to argue that these tactics don't represent a National Security threat to America.

1) Canada allows Third Country Exports across the U.S border, especially from China; as they leverage NAFTA, for Canada and the third nations benefit

And? That statement begs two questions
a) Is Canada violating any laws to do so?
b) How is that a threat to the United States?

Here is a real life example.

Container from China is unloaded in Vancouver- in bond- and moved by rail to Chicago- crossing the border and filing all required Customs papers both in Canada and the United States.

I say that the only threat to the United States there is that some longshoremen in Seattle didn't get paid to unload that container.

 

[Rambunctious]

The economy is doing well - with NAFTA in place

Not if you are a machinist or a seat and airbag installer or a coal miner or a commercial fishermen...you people that have cushy snuggley jobs that did well under the Obama presidency are only looking at your self for your outlook on those days....
Sure if your job was unaffected by NAFTA you would think it was working fine...but it wasn't working for millions of blue collar workers....How do you think Trump won over the union democrats?

 

[Syriusly]

This was from another post, but I figured I would give it it's own thread as many of you will hear the little tiff between Trudeau and Trump. I would put it in politics, but since there's no link I didn't want it moved.

In all honesty, I think there is plenty of room for Trump to ht back with broader tariffs against Canada until we embrace capitalism and liberty. Anyways, below is what I typed up:

I will challenge anyone to argue that these tactics don't represent a National Security threat to America.



2) Canada allows, sometimes in plain site, Intellectual Property theft, abuses. We have entire massive malls here in Toronto where out in the open you can see knock off movies, fashion, high end sunglasses, you name it, that are fake U.S products. They are shyte made in China, sold for full retail price, and they are clearly fake. The question is, knowing how centrally controlled the Canadian economy is, how much does the state of Canada benefit from this, and why are some of these malls who've been around for 20+ years, not shut down?!

Okay- so here you are just spouting your own speculation- not any facts. Or how that is a threat to the United States.

Let alone what that has to do with steel or aluminum made in Canada.