Yep, it's escalating

I will definitely vote yes....california has a huge potential to go on Its own. We give more than we take, why should I pay for other midevil backward thinking hillbillies ?



Don't just talk about it, do it. All you lefties do is talk and talk and talk and you do absolutely nothing but cry. So get off your butt and do something. And you won't you just complain, you told us you don't vote, you get what you get and you too lazy to vote shouldn't complain about what we got.

And how big is California's economy compared to yours?
And the US as a whole is two times worse BTW....we can do much better leaving the useless red states behind.


That too...you know most states and developed countries have debt right?

You mean like get yourself out of debt?

Not 1.3 trillion in debt they don't. That's ten times the amount we have in Ohio.

And just where would you turn to when your government can no longer borrow anymore money?
 
Looks like Trump has his hands full. We do as well.

The latest tactic brought to you by the liberal elite: Demonstrators Pull Down Confederate Monument in Durham

Did you notice this statue was put on the court house in 1924? 60 years AFTER the Civil War ended?

In fact most of these statues were erected decades after the civil war. In fact North Carolina put up 30 new monuments since 2000. So what are these statues "honoring"? We have memorials for the dead all over the south--in large battlegrounds like Gettysburg.
Confederate monuments, more than 700 across USA, aren't budging

So the only other conclusion is:

1. They were erected to intimidate.

2. They're celebrating their dark history of slavery.
3. They're there for the Alt Right & White Supremacists to rally around.

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We defeated Hitler during WW2 and you'll note there are no statues of him in any public park or institution. These Civil war statues belong in Museums not public parks and government institutions.


I don't equate Hitler and Nazis with those that fought for the South in the Civil War.

People want statues, I see no issue. If they want them down, I think it's a public decision and it should be voted on by those in their community. I am not going to tell a community I don't live in, to leave or take down their statue or put it in museum. That is their decision.

Well what do you think the South and these statues represent to blacks in this country? If you put yourselves in their shoes--walking up to a government building that is there to service them also, they get to look at a statue that reminds them of slavery and oppression. As would someone who is Jewish who would be looking at statues of Hitler, and would also remind all Americans of the brutally of his mass killings.

Sometimes to understand the "whole" picture you have to look at it through someone else's eyes. I can understand why they don't want them in public places--(where they are forced to look at them.) I don't think they should be destroyed but rather in a Civil War Museum where they belong.

Sorry not the same and most blacks in this country don't really care, it is the guilt ridden whites.

Lee doesn't invoke the same fear in blacks that Hitler invokes in Jews and most Americans. You are way off comparing the two.

That is why both the left and rights use Hitler to invoke fear among the populous.


If you'll look at the picture it's blacks tearing down this statue---:badgrin: Obviously they do mind.

Many of these statues were erected during the civil rights movement of the 1960's--100 years AFTER the civil war ended.
Some of these monuments have become rallying points for white nationalists and other far-right groups, including Southern neo-secessionists.The establishment of Confederate monuments, which crested between 1900 and 1930 and again during the Civil Rights Movement in the 1960s, didn’t end with the 20th century. In North Carolina, for instance, 35 monuments have been added since 2000.
Confederate monuments, more than 700 across USA, aren't budging

There's another one they want to tear down on Stone Mountain--that is actually used for a meeting place for the KKK.

Stone Mountain is a quartz monzonite dome monadnock and the site of Stone Mountain Park in Stone Mountain, Georgia. At its summit, the elevation is 1,686 feet (514 m) MSL and 825 feet (251 m) above the surrounding area. Stone Mountain is well-known not only for its geology, but also for the enormous rock relief on its north face, the largest bas-relief in the world.[1] The carving depicts three Confederate figures during the Civil War: Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson. Stone Mountain was once owned by the Venable Brothers and was the site of the founding of the second Ku Klux Klan in 1915. It was purchased by the State of Georgia in 1958.
And apparently they have scheduled another KKK rally at this site in October of this year.
Candidate for Governor Calls for Removal of Stone Mountain Carving - American Renaissance

Since many were erected during the Civil rights movement of the 1960's they were done for one reason only. To intimidate--and to show the world that the South has no humility or shame regarding slavery and or the Civil War.

Now if there's anyone that is a history buff, I am, and the Civil War is one of my interests in History. But I also understand the anxiety these statues represent to Black Americans & I have no problems with moving these statues into Civil War Museums. Furthermore, if they did that, they could not be symbolized or used as a rallyiing cry for White Supremacists & Neo Nazi's.

Again, the majority of blacks polled don't mind.

Again to compare the South with Hitler is plain moronic.

I don't care if they are torn in down, it is for the local people to decide, not you or me. I don't care if they make it to a museum or not. Not my area of the country.

So play it the way you want, the facts I just laid out are the facts.
 
You certainly are an ignorant bigot. If it wasn't for several western states California would have not have enough power for the citizens. Several corporations would leave California because they would be an unstable economy. California would need to raise taxes and form their own currency based on what?

It's always to claim a state should does this or that however this country realizes as do all sane Americans that every state is important, even the middle and you left wing nuts are just as moronic and stupid as those idiots in Texas that talk succession.

I will definitely vote yes....california has a huge potential to go on Its own. We give more than we take, why should I pay for other midevil backward thinking hillbillies ?



Don't just talk about it, do it. All you lefties do is talk and talk and talk and you do absolutely nothing but cry. So get off your butt and do something. And you won't you just complain, you told us you don't vote, you get what you get and you too lazy to vote shouldn't complain about what we got.

And how big is California's economy compared to yours?
And the US as a whole is two times worse BTW....we can do much better leaving the useless red states behind.


That too...you know most states and developed countries have debt right?

You mean like get yourself out of debt?

Not 1.3 trillion in debt they don't. That's ten times the amount we have in Ohio.
 
They're looking more like ISIS everyday. Course some maniac may have intentionally mowed people down with his car, who might ID himself as conservative, but that aint the big picture.

Looking like ISIS? Oh, now you'll stop at nothing to try and tarnish, hey?

Don't be so ridiculous.



No, the people you hold in such high reguards are doing fine with the "tarnish" them selves.

Houston man accused of trying to bomb Confederate statue


And by default, since your okay with the bombs, there is a huge bit of white privlage involved to. Libtards are such hypocrites. It would be funny if it wasn't so serious.
 
You certainly are an ignorant bigot. If it wasn't for several western states California would have not have enough power for the citizens. Several corporations would leave California because they would be an unstable economy. California would need to raise taxes and form their own currency based on what?

It's always to claim a state should does this or that however this country realizes as do all sane Americans that every state is important, even the middle and you left wing nuts are just as moronic and stupid as those idiots in Texas that talk succession.

I will definitely vote yes....california has a huge potential to go on Its own. We give more than we take, why should I pay for other midevil backward thinking hillbillies ?



Don't just talk about it, do it. All you lefties do is talk and talk and talk and you do absolutely nothing but cry. So get off your butt and do something. And you won't you just complain, you told us you don't vote, you get what you get and you too lazy to vote shouldn't complain about what we got.

And how big is California's economy compared to yours?
And the US as a whole is two times worse BTW....we can do much better leaving the useless red states behind.


That too...you know most states and developed countries have debt right?

Not 1.3 trillion in debt they don't. That's ten times the amount we have in Ohio.


Power ? They can't even play in the sprinklers in California. The state is run so badlands they have to BUY water! Electricity is rthe least of their worries considering how much agricultural shit pays the bills there.
 
I said overwhelmingly, now I live iba city of immigrants and I know none who likes Trump. Are there those who do like him sure....but the data is here minorities overwhelmingly voted against him and they vote mostly for Dems. Every single minority group from blacks to Muslims, to natives to Asians to Jews. I wonder why :)

You are correct. That's how the Democrat party became the anti-white party. Their goal is to flood this country with minorities to make whites the minority for the first time in our history. Then they can create a one--party government forever.
This is the cause of their fury today. The democrats thought their goal had been reached. They were happily talking about Texas going blue and voting for hillary.
 
Same way the US as a whole and most countries do.
I will definitely vote yes....california has a huge potential to go on Its own. We give more than we take, why should I pay for other midevil backward thinking hillbillies ?



Don't just talk about it, do it. All you lefties do is talk and talk and talk and you do absolutely nothing but cry. So get off your butt and do something. And you won't you just complain, you told us you don't vote, you get what you get and you too lazy to vote shouldn't complain about what we got.

And how big is California's economy compared to yours?
And the US as a whole is two times worse BTW....we can do much better leaving the useless red states behind.


That too...you know most states and developed countries have debt right?

Not 1.3 trillion in debt they don't. That's ten times the amount we have in Ohio.

And just where would you turn to when your government can no longer borrow anymore money?
 
So now I'm a bigot?
California is a progressive state, it doesn't share the bigoted views as some other states that voted in the biggest bigot and racist as a president. And don't worry about US....we will do just fine without the rest of you.

You certainly are an ignorant bigot. If it wasn't for several western states California would have not have enough power for the citizens. Several corporations would leave California because they would be an unstable economy. California would need to raise taxes and form their own currency based on what?

It's always to claim a state should does this or that however this country realizes as do all sane Americans that every state is important, even the middle and you left wing nuts are just as moronic and stupid as those idiots in Texas that talk succession.

I will definitely vote yes....california has a huge potential to go on Its own. We give more than we take, why should I pay for other midevil backward thinking hillbillies ?



Don't just talk about it, do it. All you lefties do is talk and talk and talk and you do absolutely nothing but cry. So get off your butt and do something. And you won't you just complain, you told us you don't vote, you get what you get and you too lazy to vote shouldn't complain about what we got.

And how big is California's economy compared to yours?
And the US as a whole is two times worse BTW....we can do much better leaving the useless red states behind.


That too...you know most states and developed countries have debt right?

Not 1.3 trillion in debt they don't. That's ten times the amount we have in Ohio.
 
Never said that other groups can't be racists, of course they can. We are talking parties here and the one that appeals to racists more,is the GOP.

Issa explains you cannot be racist if "you're a minority", and declares it life experience.

Here's two of MANY examples of active racism, and you know, they're pretty much all conservatives:


this has redefined stupidity.

most assholes i meet are liberals, ergo, all liberals are assholes.

your logic. but i bet it falls short suddenly.
 
You certainly are an ignorant bigot. If it wasn't for several western states California would have not have enough power for the citizens. Several corporations would leave California because they would be an unstable economy. California would need to raise taxes and form their own currency based on what?

It's always to claim a state should does this or that however this country realizes as do all sane Americans that every state is important, even the middle and you left wing nuts are just as moronic and stupid as those idiots in Texas that talk succession.

I will definitely vote yes....california has a huge potential to go on Its own. We give more than we take, why should I pay for other midevil backward thinking hillbillies ?



Don't just talk about it, do it. All you lefties do is talk and talk and talk and you do absolutely nothing but cry. So get off your butt and do something. And you won't you just complain, you told us you don't vote, you get what you get and you too lazy to vote shouldn't complain about what we got.

And how big is California's economy compared to yours?
And the US as a whole is two times worse BTW....we can do much better leaving the useless red states behind.


Not 1.3 trillion in debt they don't. That's ten times the amount we have in Ohio.


Power ? They can't even play in the sprinklers in California. The state is run so badlands they have to BUY water! Electricity is rthe least of their worries considering how much agricultural shit pays the bills there.
Our sprinklers are on , and we feed most of you too....be thankful.
 
Look up what a bigot is, when I called you a bigot, you made an ignorant inflammatory comment about a group of people. California has it's own bigotry, like thinking they are superior to other states and people in the United States. Lefties like yourself are an embarrassment to the country.

California would never make it on its own, and it will never happen. Silly lefties aren't brave enough to go it alone. However, your ignorance is pretty funny.


So now I'm a bigot?
California is a progressive state, it doesn't share the bigoted views as some other states that voted in the biggest bigot and racist as a president. And don't worry about US....we will do just fine without the rest of you.

You certainly are an ignorant bigot. If it wasn't for several western states California would have not have enough power for the citizens. Several corporations would leave California because they would be an unstable economy. California would need to raise taxes and form their own currency based on what?

It's always to claim a state should does this or that however this country realizes as do all sane Americans that every state is important, even the middle and you left wing nuts are just as moronic and stupid as those idiots in Texas that talk succession.

I will definitely vote yes....california has a huge potential to go on Its own. We give more than we take, why should I pay for other midevil backward thinking hillbillies ?



Don't just talk about it, do it. All you lefties do is talk and talk and talk and you do absolutely nothing but cry. So get off your butt and do something. And you won't you just complain, you told us you don't vote, you get what you get and you too lazy to vote shouldn't complain about what we got.

And how big is California's economy compared to yours?
And the US as a whole is two times worse BTW....we can do much better leaving the useless red states behind.


Not 1.3 trillion in debt they don't. That's ten times the amount we have in Ohio.
 
You certainly are an ignorant bigot. If it wasn't for several western states California would have not have enough power for the citizens. Several corporations would leave California because they would be an unstable economy. California would need to raise taxes and form their own currency based on what?

It's always to claim a state should does this or that however this country realizes as do all sane Americans that every state is important, even the middle and you left wing nuts are just as moronic and stupid as those idiots in Texas that talk succession.

I will definitely vote yes....california has a huge potential to go on Its own. We give more than we take, why should I pay for other midevil backward thinking hillbillies ?



Don't just talk about it, do it. All you lefties do is talk and talk and talk and you do absolutely nothing but cry. So get off your butt and do something. And you won't you just complain, you told us you don't vote, you get what you get and you too lazy to vote shouldn't complain about what we got.

And how big is California's economy compared to yours?
And the US as a whole is two times worse BTW....we can do much better leaving the useless red states behind.


Power ? They can't even play in the sprinklers in California. The state is run so badlands they have to BUY water! Electricity is rthe least of their worries considering how much agricultural shit pays the bills there.
Our sprinklers are on , and we feed most of you too....be thankful.

California produces 11% of fruits, grains and vegetables. Sixty percent of Southern California's water comes from out of state. California imports a third of it's energy from other states.

California uses more water per day than most Americans 181 gallons a person and uses more electricity than average Americans.

Top 10 problems in California today:
Can you imagine the left leaving the union and not trusting their government. LOL!!
 
You certainly are an ignorant bigot. If it wasn't for several western states California would have not have enough power for the citizens. Several corporations would leave California because they would be an unstable economy. California would need to raise taxes and form their own currency based on what?

It's always to claim a state should does this or that however this country realizes as do all sane Americans that every state is important, even the middle and you left wing nuts are just as moronic and stupid as those idiots in Texas that talk succession.

I will definitely vote yes....california has a huge potential to go on Its own. We give more than we take, why should I pay for other midevil backward thinking hillbillies ?



Don't just talk about it, do it. All you lefties do is talk and talk and talk and you do absolutely nothing but cry. So get off your butt and do something. And you won't you just complain, you told us you don't vote, you get what you get and you too lazy to vote shouldn't complain about what we got.


Power ? They can't even play in the sprinklers in California. The state is run so badlands they have to BUY water! Electricity is rthe least of their worries considering how much agricultural shit pays the bills there.
Our sprinklers are on , and we feed most of you too....be thankful.

California produces 11% of fruits, grains and vegetables. Sixty percent of Southern California's water comes from out of state. California imports a third of it's energy from other states.

California uses more water per day than most Americans 181 gallons a person and uses more electricity than average Americans.

Top 10 problems in California today:
Can you imagine the left leaving the union and not trusting their government. LOL!!

How nice citing only the negatives, very objective.
I'll give you few minutes to Google the strengths of California and it's importance to the other useless states before I do so.
And for the millionth time I'm not a leftie.
 
You certainly are an ignorant bigot. If it wasn't for several western states California would have not have enough power for the citizens. Several corporations would leave California because they would be an unstable economy. California would need to raise taxes and form their own currency based on what?

It's always to claim a state should does this or that however this country realizes as do all sane Americans that every state is important, even the middle and you left wing nuts are just as moronic and stupid as those idiots in Texas that talk succession.

I will definitely vote yes....california has a huge potential to go on Its own. We give more than we take, why should I pay for other midevil backward thinking hillbillies ?


Power ? They can't even play in the sprinklers in California. The state is run so badlands they have to BUY water! Electricity is rthe least of their worries considering how much agricultural shit pays the bills there.
Our sprinklers are on , and we feed most of you too....be thankful.

California produces 11% of fruits, grains and vegetables. Sixty percent of Southern California's water comes from out of state. California imports a third of it's energy from other states.

California uses more water per day than most Americans 181 gallons a person and uses more electricity than average Americans.

Top 10 problems in California today:
Can you imagine the left leaving the union and not trusting their government. LOL!!

How nice citing only the negatives, very objective.
I'll give you few minutes to Google the strengths of California and it's importance to the other useless states before I do so.
And for the millionth time I'm not a leftie.


Cali is important to Cali and Mexico. **** them.
 
You certainly are an ignorant bigot. If it wasn't for several western states California would have not have enough power for the citizens. Several corporations would leave California because they would be an unstable economy. California would need to raise taxes and form their own currency based on what?

It's always to claim a state should does this or that however this country realizes as do all sane Americans that every state is important, even the middle and you left wing nuts are just as moronic and stupid as those idiots in Texas that talk succession.


Power ? They can't even play in the sprinklers in California. The state is run so badlands they have to BUY water! Electricity is rthe least of their worries considering how much agricultural shit pays the bills there.
Our sprinklers are on , and we feed most of you too....be thankful.

California produces 11% of fruits, grains and vegetables. Sixty percent of Southern California's water comes from out of state. California imports a third of it's energy from other states.

California uses more water per day than most Americans 181 gallons a person and uses more electricity than average Americans.

Top 10 problems in California today:
Can you imagine the left leaving the union and not trusting their government. LOL!!

How nice citing only the negatives, very objective.
I'll give you few minutes to Google the strengths of California and it's importance to the other useless states before I do so.
And for the millionth time I'm not a leftie.


Cali is important to Cali and Mexico. **** them.

Mexico is one of the fastest growing economies, great country and great people we glad we work together to better millions of people's life.
 
You certainly are an ignorant bigot. If it wasn't for several western states California would have not have enough power for the citizens. Several corporations would leave California because they would be an unstable economy. California would need to raise taxes and form their own currency based on what?

It's always to claim a state should does this or that however this country realizes as do all sane Americans that every state is important, even the middle and you left wing nuts are just as moronic and stupid as those idiots in Texas that talk succession.

I will definitely vote yes....california has a huge potential to go on Its own. We give more than we take, why should I pay for other midevil backward thinking hillbillies ?


Power ? They can't even play in the sprinklers in California. The state is run so badlands they have to BUY water! Electricity is rthe least of their worries considering how much agricultural shit pays the bills there.
Our sprinklers are on , and we feed most of you too....be thankful.

California produces 11% of fruits, grains and vegetables. Sixty percent of Southern California's water comes from out of state. California imports a third of it's energy from other states.

California uses more water per day than most Americans 181 gallons a person and uses more electricity than average Americans.

Top 10 problems in California today:
Can you imagine the left leaving the union and not trusting their government. LOL!!

How nice citing only the negatives, very objective.
I'll give you few minutes to Google the strengths of California and it's importance to the other useless states before I do so.
And for the millionth time I'm not a leftie.

You claim you aren't a lefty but most of your stances are to the left, so yes you are a lefty. Only far lefties are buying in to California leaving the union, the rest of us know better.

You made a claim how California supplies most of the US its fruits, vegetables, grains, I proved you wrong... Again!

All you post are positive things about California, "very objective" of you. California is part of a 50 member team, that will never be allowed to leave the union, so you are just blowing hot air. So really you got nothing. California needs the other 49 states.
 
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Power ? They can't even play in the sprinklers in California. The state is run so badlands they have to BUY water! Electricity is rthe least of their worries considering how much agricultural shit pays the bills there.
Our sprinklers are on , and we feed most of you too....be thankful.

California produces 11% of fruits, grains and vegetables. Sixty percent of Southern California's water comes from out of state. California imports a third of it's energy from other states.

California uses more water per day than most Americans 181 gallons a person and uses more electricity than average Americans.

Top 10 problems in California today:
Can you imagine the left leaving the union and not trusting their government. LOL!!

How nice citing only the negatives, very objective.
I'll give you few minutes to Google the strengths of California and it's importance to the other useless states before I do so.
And for the millionth time I'm not a leftie.


Cali is important to Cali and Mexico. **** them.

Mexico is one of the fastest growing economies, great country and great people we glad we work together to better millions of people's life.

Mexico is not even in the top 20 fastest growing countries. Quit making stupid crap up.
 
Our sprinklers are on , and we feed most of you too....be thankful.

California produces 11% of fruits, grains and vegetables. Sixty percent of Southern California's water comes from out of state. California imports a third of it's energy from other states.

California uses more water per day than most Americans 181 gallons a person and uses more electricity than average Americans.

Top 10 problems in California today:
Can you imagine the left leaving the union and not trusting their government. LOL!!

How nice citing only the negatives, very objective.
I'll give you few minutes to Google the strengths of California and it's importance to the other useless states before I do so.
And for the millionth time I'm not a leftie.


Cali is important to Cali and Mexico. **** them.

Mexico is one of the fastest growing economies, great country and great people we glad we work together to better millions of people's life.

Mexico is not even in the top 20 fastest growing countries. Quit making stupid crap up.

let me rephrase it....Mexico has one of the largest economies, has everything to take to the next level and be recognized as a developed country. it's clearly moving to the right direction adn before you know it will be a very influencial state economically and politically on world stage.
Just because your gardner or a dishwasher in your local restaurant is a Mexican, means the country is in ruins.
 
You certainly are an ignorant bigot. If it wasn't for several western states California would have not have enough power for the citizens. Several corporations would leave California because they would be an unstable economy. California would need to raise taxes and form their own currency based on what?

It's always to claim a state should does this or that however this country realizes as do all sane Americans that every state is important, even the middle and you left wing nuts are just as moronic and stupid as those idiots in Texas that talk succession.


Power ? They can't even play in the sprinklers in California. The state is run so badlands they have to BUY water! Electricity is rthe least of their worries considering how much agricultural shit pays the bills there.
Our sprinklers are on , and we feed most of you too....be thankful.

California produces 11% of fruits, grains and vegetables. Sixty percent of Southern California's water comes from out of state. California imports a third of it's energy from other states.

California uses more water per day than most Americans 181 gallons a person and uses more electricity than average Americans.

Top 10 problems in California today:
Can you imagine the left leaving the union and not trusting their government. LOL!!

How nice citing only the negatives, very objective.
I'll give you few minutes to Google the strengths of California and it's importance to the other useless states before I do so.
And for the millionth time I'm not a leftie.

You claim you aren't a lefty but most of your stances are to the left, so yes you are a lefty. Only far lefties are buying in to California leaving the union, the rest of us know better.

You made a claim how California supplies most of the US its fruits, vegetables, grains, I proved you wrong... Again!

All you post are positive things about California, "very objective" of you. California is part of a 50 member team, that will never be allowed to leave the union, so you are just blowing hot air. So really you got nothing. California needs the other 49 states.

No i'm not, i AM not a lefty....i'm independent and i don't care for the racism, bigotry and backwardness coming from the right.

And yes no other state feeds americans than we do. Almonds, Nuts, Milk, Kiwis, Pistachios,Vegetables,....you name it. It's a donor state, food basket, technology hub, and the list goes on.
 
California produces 11% of fruits, grains and vegetables. Sixty percent of Southern California's water comes from out of state. California imports a third of it's energy from other states.

California uses more water per day than most Americans 181 gallons a person and uses more electricity than average Americans.

Top 10 problems in California today:
Can you imagine the left leaving the union and not trusting their government. LOL!!

How nice citing only the negatives, very objective.
I'll give you few minutes to Google the strengths of California and it's importance to the other useless states before I do so.
And for the millionth time I'm not a leftie.


Cali is important to Cali and Mexico. **** them.

Mexico is one of the fastest growing economies, great country and great people we glad we work together to better millions of people's life.

Mexico is not even in the top 20 fastest growing countries. Quit making stupid crap up.

let me rephrase it....Mexico has one of the largest economies, has everything to take to the next level and be recognized as a developed country. it's clearly moving to the right direction adn before you know it will be a very influencial state economically and politically on world stage.
Just because your gardner or a dishwasher in your local restaurant is a Mexican, means the country is in ruins.

Your last comment is pretty puzzling, where in the hell did I say it was in ruins? Oh wait, I never did, it is just you making crap up again. Again your bigotry is at play ASSuming you know what I am thinking because I lean right.
 
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