Yeah..Canada gun crime going up, funny obama didn't mention this,they have more gun control than us.

[2aguy]

Yes...funny that obama didn't mention that Canada...that paradise of gun control laws....has seen a spike in gun crime and gun murder......even though they have strict gun control...funny how our democrat controlled media failed to point this out....

Toronto's gun crime stats have spiked



TORONTO - Welcome to Toronto’s Summer of the Gun 2015.

It’s a headline neither Toronto Police nor city hall want to see.

There is no question statistics can be made to look a lot of different ways, but some statistics are just plain ugly.

Scary, actually.

For example, 36 more people have been shot so far this year in Toronto than at this point last year.

Toronto Police statistics show a 90% increase in people wounded by gunfire and a 48% increase in shootings (135 compared to 91).

And there have been 106 more shooting victims (those hit by gunfire, as well as those victimized by it).

In fact, the 227 shooting victims so far this year is 31 more than the total for all of 2014.

It’s true not all shooting victims have been hit by gunfire, but as Deputy Chief Peter Sloly points out, every gun shot, whether into the air or a tree, is one that could ricochet and strike an innocent victim like we saw in 2012 when a two-year-old was hit.

If you add the death and injury statistics, Toronto has seen 88 dead or wounded by gunfire in 2015 compared to 53 at this time last year. That’s a 66% increase.

It’s a big spike.

Shocking, horrifying numbers that seem to have just snuck up on us.

Many seem worried about the controversial carding issue, but these scary stats aren’t getting the same media attention. It doesn’t feel like a particularly violent summer, but the stats indicate otherwise.

 

[2aguy]

Oh.....and this story about it...I guess obama didn't get the word....

Toronto gun crime hits three-year high, police stats show

Despite the presence of security guards and police officers, gunfire erupted at Muzik nightclub early Tuesday morning in Toronto's latest fatal shooting, which left two people dead and three others injured. Peter Sloly, the deputy police chief, said the shooting at the crowded nightclub is indicative of the trend gripping the city.

• Toronto police seek 2 persons of interest in deadly Muzik shooting
  
• Police launch new crime reporting app
  

"The brazen criminals we have in gangs, they're getting younger, they're more willing to use their guns in public spaces and crowded spaces," Sloly said.

Police have not determined if the Muzik shooting is gang related, but did announce they're searching for two men in their twenties who are considered persons of interest in the case.

Police statistics show there have been 147 shootings so far this year, a number that's already eclipsed the total from 2013 and 2014. In 2012, there were 155 shootings, a figure that will likely be surpassed as well.

Whily Sloly insists Toronto is a safe city, he admits the string of gun violence is dredging up memories of 2005, the so-called "summer of the gun."

As it did in the wake of those shootings, Toronto's police force is focusing its efforts in areas where gun crime has been prevalent, including 31 Division, where police have launched Project Lion.

 

[TheOldSchool]

What's Canada's murder rate?

 

[Searcher44]

Yes...funny that obama didn't mention that Canada...that paradise of gun control laws....has seen a spike in gun crime and gun murder......even though they have strict gun control...funny how our democrat controlled media failed to point this out....

Toronto's gun crime stats have spiked



TORONTO - Welcome to Toronto’s Summer of the Gun 2015.

It’s a headline neither Toronto Police nor city hall want to see.

There is no question statistics can be made to look a lot of different ways, but some statistics are just plain ugly.

Scary, actually.

For example, 36 more people have been shot so far this year in Toronto than at this point last year.

Toronto Police statistics show a 90% increase in people wounded by gunfire and a 48% increase in shootings (135 compared to 91).

And there have been 106 more shooting victims (those hit by gunfire, as well as those victimized by it).

In fact, the 227 shooting victims so far this year is 31 more than the total for all of 2014.

It’s true not all shooting victims have been hit by gunfire, but as Deputy Chief Peter Sloly points out, every gun shot, whether into the air or a tree, is one that could ricochet and strike an innocent victim like we saw in 2012 when a two-year-old was hit.

If you add the death and injury statistics, Toronto has seen 88 dead or wounded by gunfire in 2015 compared to 53 at this time last year. That’s a 66% increase.

It’s a big spike.

Shocking, horrifying numbers that seem to have just snuck up on us.

Many seem worried about the controversial carding issue, but these scary stats aren’t getting the same media attention. It doesn’t feel like a particularly violent summer, but the stats indicate otherwise.

You are pathetic. Grasping at straws. That's about one city chump, not the whole country. We're doing pretty good thank you.

And;

Canada also introduced tougher gun control measures, following the École Polytechnique Massacre in 1989. Tougher screening processes were introduced for all gun purchases including risk assessments, background checks and firearms registration. Later, further classes of firearms “not reasonably used in hunting” (prohibiting semi-automatic assault weapons) became restricted.
The new measures appeared to accelerate a downward trend in gun violence involving long weapons (rifles and shotguns) but also revealed a shift to handguns as criminal weapons of choice, as Canada also experienced an upsurge in street-gang problems. Tighter controls on handguns have also followed, having some positive impact over the past five years although, in this regard, Canada’s efforts are rather undermined by the lax gun laws of its neighbour to the south. An overwhelming number of criminal handguns intercepted by the police in Canada are illegally sourced from the US.

 

[Mr. H.]

Yes...funny that obama didn't mention that Canada...that paradise of gun control laws....has seen a spike in gun crime and gun murder......even though they have strict gun control...funny how our democrat controlled media failed to point this out....

Toronto's gun crime stats have spiked



TORONTO - Welcome to Toronto’s Summer of the Gun 2015.

It’s a headline neither Toronto Police nor city hall want to see.

There is no question statistics can be made to look a lot of different ways, but some statistics are just plain ugly.

Scary, actually.

For example, 36 more people have been shot so far this year in Toronto than at this point last year.

Toronto Police statistics show a 90% increase in people wounded by gunfire and a 48% increase in shootings (135 compared to 91).

And there have been 106 more shooting victims (those hit by gunfire, as well as those victimized by it).

In fact, the 227 shooting victims so far this year is 31 more than the total for all of 2014.

It’s true not all shooting victims have been hit by gunfire, but as Deputy Chief Peter Sloly points out, every gun shot, whether into the air or a tree, is one that could ricochet and strike an innocent victim like we saw in 2012 when a two-year-old was hit.

If you add the death and injury statistics, Toronto has seen 88 dead or wounded by gunfire in 2015 compared to 53 at this time last year. That’s a 66% increase.

It’s a big spike.

Shocking, horrifying numbers that seem to have just snuck up on us.

Many seem worried about the controversial carding issue, but these scary stats aren’t getting the same media attention. It doesn’t feel like a particularly violent summer, but the stats indicate otherwise.

You are pathetic. Grasping at straws. That's about one city chump, not the whole country. We're doing pretty good thank you.

And;

Canada also introduced tougher gun control measures, following the École Polytechnique Massacre in 1989. Tougher screening processes were introduced for all gun purchases including risk assessments, background checks and firearms registration. Later, further classes of firearms “not reasonably used in hunting” (prohibiting semi-automatic assault weapons) became restricted.
The new measures appeared to accelerate a downward trend in gun violence involving long weapons (rifles and shotguns) but also revealed a shift to handguns as criminal weapons of choice, as Canada also experienced an upsurge in street-gang problems. Tighter controls on handguns have also followed, having some positive impact over the past five years although, in this regard, Canada’s efforts are rather undermined by the lax gun laws of its neighbour to the south. An overwhelming number of criminal handguns intercepted by the police in Canada are illegally sourced from the US.

Listen up. If we want factual historical data, we'll ask for it.

Get lost, loser.

 

[Searcher44]

What's Canada's murder rate?

I'ts +/- . 5/100,000. That's .5 compared to America's 3.2. This guy accused me of lying about something (I'm not sure what) in another thread. I'd say this framing he's trying out, including dragging Obama into his phony narrative, amounts to an obvious lie.

 

[Searcher44]

Yes...funny that obama didn't mention that Canada...that paradise of gun control laws....has seen a spike in gun crime and gun murder......even though they have strict gun control...funny how our democrat controlled media failed to point this out....

Toronto's gun crime stats have spiked



TORONTO - Welcome to Toronto’s Summer of the Gun 2015.

It’s a headline neither Toronto Police nor city hall want to see.

There is no question statistics can be made to look a lot of different ways, but some statistics are just plain ugly.

Scary, actually.

For example, 36 more people have been shot so far this year in Toronto than at this point last year.

Toronto Police statistics show a 90% increase in people wounded by gunfire and a 48% increase in shootings (135 compared to 91).

And there have been 106 more shooting victims (those hit by gunfire, as well as those victimized by it).

In fact, the 227 shooting victims so far this year is 31 more than the total for all of 2014.

It’s true not all shooting victims have been hit by gunfire, but as Deputy Chief Peter Sloly points out, every gun shot, whether into the air or a tree, is one that could ricochet and strike an innocent victim like we saw in 2012 when a two-year-old was hit.

If you add the death and injury statistics, Toronto has seen 88 dead or wounded by gunfire in 2015 compared to 53 at this time last year. That’s a 66% increase.

It’s a big spike.

Shocking, horrifying numbers that seem to have just snuck up on us.

Many seem worried about the controversial carding issue, but these scary stats aren’t getting the same media attention. It doesn’t feel like a particularly violent summer, but the stats indicate otherwise.

You are pathetic. Grasping at straws. That's about one city chump, not the whole country. We're doing pretty good thank you.

And;

Canada also introduced tougher gun control measures, following the École Polytechnique Massacre in 1989. Tougher screening processes were introduced for all gun purchases including risk assessments, background checks and firearms registration. Later, further classes of firearms “not reasonably used in hunting” (prohibiting semi-automatic assault weapons) became restricted.
The new measures appeared to accelerate a downward trend in gun violence involving long weapons (rifles and shotguns) but also revealed a shift to handguns as criminal weapons of choice, as Canada also experienced an upsurge in street-gang problems. Tighter controls on handguns have also followed, having some positive impact over the past five years although, in this regard, Canada’s efforts are rather undermined by the lax gun laws of its neighbour to the south. An overwhelming number of criminal handguns intercepted by the police in Canada are illegally sourced from the US.

Listen up. If we want factual historical data, we'll ask for it.

Get lost, loser.

Did I pee in your punch or something, eh?

 

[TheOldSchool]

What's Canada's murder rate?

I'ts +/- . 5/100,000. That's .5 compared to America's 3.2. This guy accused me of lying about something (I'm not sure what) in another thread. I'd say this framing he's trying out, including dragging Obama into his phony narrative, amounts to an obvious lie.

2aguy is dum az fuq bruh

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Yes...funny that obama didn't mention that Canada...that paradise of gun control laws....has seen a spike in gun crime and gun murder......even though they have strict gun control...funny how our democrat controlled media failed to point this out....

Toronto's gun crime stats have spiked



TORONTO - Welcome to Toronto’s Summer of the Gun 2015.

It’s a headline neither Toronto Police nor city hall want to see.

There is no question statistics can be made to look a lot of different ways, but some statistics are just plain ugly.

Scary, actually.

For example, 36 more people have been shot so far this year in Toronto than at this point last year.

Toronto Police statistics show a 90% increase in people wounded by gunfire and a 48% increase in shootings (135 compared to 91).

And there have been 106 more shooting victims (those hit by gunfire, as well as those victimized by it).

In fact, the 227 shooting victims so far this year is 31 more than the total for all of 2014.

It’s true not all shooting victims have been hit by gunfire, but as Deputy Chief Peter Sloly points out, every gun shot, whether into the air or a tree, is one that could ricochet and strike an innocent victim like we saw in 2012 when a two-year-old was hit.

If you add the death and injury statistics, Toronto has seen 88 dead or wounded by gunfire in 2015 compared to 53 at this time last year. That’s a 66% increase.

It’s a big spike.

Shocking, horrifying numbers that seem to have just snuck up on us.

Many seem worried about the controversial carding issue, but these scary stats aren’t getting the same media attention. It doesn’t feel like a particularly violent summer, but the stats indicate otherwise.

You are pathetic. Grasping at straws. That's about one city chump, not the whole country. We're doing pretty good thank you.

And;

Canada also introduced tougher gun control measures, following the École Polytechnique Massacre in 1989. Tougher screening processes were introduced for all gun purchases including risk assessments, background checks and firearms registration. Later, further classes of firearms “not reasonably used in hunting” (prohibiting semi-automatic assault weapons) became restricted.
The new measures appeared to accelerate a downward trend in gun violence involving long weapons (rifles and shotguns) but also revealed a shift to handguns as criminal weapons of choice, as Canada also experienced an upsurge in street-gang problems. Tighter controls on handguns have also followed, having some positive impact over the past five years although, in this regard, Canada’s efforts are rather undermined by the lax gun laws of its neighbour to the south. An overwhelming number of criminal handguns intercepted by the police in Canada are illegally sourced from the US.

The graph goes through 2012...that's a bit out of date.

 

[Care4all]

What's Toronto's gun laws?

 

[Dragonlady]

If you look at the statistics, 2014 was had much fewer shootings and deaths by shooting, than the previous two years. Gun violence was down by about 30% from 2013, and 2013 had fewer shootings than 2012. This years' numbers are substantially higher than last year, and about the same as 2012.

 

[Searcher44]

What's Toronto's gun laws?

I've never owned a gun but I don't think Toronto's laws are different than Canada's as a whole. Our gun laws are almost totally federal with a few Provincial exceptions. Below will give you an overview.

Acquiring a gun;
1. The applicant and one other person who has known the applicant for at least 1 year must sign a statement confirming that an accompanying photo (of the applicant) accurately identifies the applicant.
2. Two people (other than a spouse) must sign a statement confirming that they have known the applicant for at least three years and to the best of their knowledge and belief:
the information in the application is true;
the applicant does not pose a threat to public safety.
3. The applicant must provide the name, current address and telephone number of every spouse or common-law partner with whom the applicant has lived during the past two years. If their whereabouts are unknown, the applicant must make a written statement (on the form) to that effect. (Spouses and common-law partners will be notified about the application.)
4. There is a minimum 28-day waiting period unless the applicant has a valid FAC or licence.
5. Applicants must show proof that safety course requirements have been met.
There are additional requirements for restricted and prohibited firearms.
The Criminal Code states that a prohibited firearm is:
a handgun with a barrel length of 105 mm (4.1 inches) or less;
a handgun designed or adapted to discharge 25 or 32 calibre ammunition;
a rifle or shotgun that has been altered to make it less than 660 mm (26 inches) in overall length;
a rifle or shotgun that has been altered to make the barrel length less than 457 mm (18 inches) where the overall firearm length is 660 mm (26 inches) or more;
an automatic firearm and a converted automatic firearm;
any firearm prescribed as prohibited.
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Under the Criminal Code, handguns require an "authorization to carry."
The number of "authorizations to carry" issued averages 8,169 per year.
Most authorizations go to armoured car guards and people working in remote wilderness areas.
Very few authorizations are made under the protection of life category. These would mostly include cases where there is an active police file and a verifiable threat as well as police confirmation that they cannot provide adequate protection for that person.

Section 117 of the Criminal Code of Canada exempts on-duty police officers, members of the Canadian Forces, peace officers and persons training to be become police or peace officers from the restrictions on carrying handguns.
There are also provincial regulations that cover who may or may not legally carry a handgun. For example, Alberta regulations set out two levels of peace officers, with different weapons authorizations.
There are also laws and regulations that apply to shooting ranges, guns shows and transporting handguns to them.

That gives you a general idea. I live in one of Canada's major cities (Vancouver) and I've never seen a "gun shop" here. There may be but I've never noticed one. And if you saw a person carrying any kind of gun on the street you would immediately dial 911.

 

[2aguy]

What's Canada's murder rate?

Yeah....doesn't matter....it is going up because.....gun control doesn't work...it shouldn't be going up at all since Canada has strict gun control laws...right? and yet it is....why...because some of their criminals have decided they need guns because they want to shoot people....so they got guns and they shot people.......even with all of Canada's gun control laws.....

 

[2aguy]

Yes...funny that obama didn't mention that Canada...that paradise of gun control laws....has seen a spike in gun crime and gun murder......even though they have strict gun control...funny how our democrat controlled media failed to point this out....

Toronto's gun crime stats have spiked



TORONTO - Welcome to Toronto’s Summer of the Gun 2015.

It’s a headline neither Toronto Police nor city hall want to see.

There is no question statistics can be made to look a lot of different ways, but some statistics are just plain ugly.

Scary, actually.

For example, 36 more people have been shot so far this year in Toronto than at this point last year.

Toronto Police statistics show a 90% increase in people wounded by gunfire and a 48% increase in shootings (135 compared to 91).

And there have been 106 more shooting victims (those hit by gunfire, as well as those victimized by it).

In fact, the 227 shooting victims so far this year is 31 more than the total for all of 2014.

It’s true not all shooting victims have been hit by gunfire, but as Deputy Chief Peter Sloly points out, every gun shot, whether into the air or a tree, is one that could ricochet and strike an innocent victim like we saw in 2012 when a two-year-old was hit.

If you add the death and injury statistics, Toronto has seen 88 dead or wounded by gunfire in 2015 compared to 53 at this time last year. That’s a 66% increase.

It’s a big spike.

Shocking, horrifying numbers that seem to have just snuck up on us.

Many seem worried about the controversial carding issue, but these scary stats aren’t getting the same media attention. It doesn’t feel like a particularly violent summer, but the stats indicate otherwise.

You are pathetic. Grasping at straws. That's about one city chump, not the whole country. We're doing pretty good thank you.

And;

Canada also introduced tougher gun control measures, following the École Polytechnique Massacre in 1989. Tougher screening processes were introduced for all gun purchases including risk assessments, background checks and firearms registration. Later, further classes of firearms “not reasonably used in hunting” (prohibiting semi-automatic assault weapons) became restricted.
The new measures appeared to accelerate a downward trend in gun violence involving long weapons (rifles and shotguns) but also revealed a shift to handguns as criminal weapons of choice, as Canada also experienced an upsurge in street-gang problems. Tighter controls on handguns have also followed, having some positive impact over the past five years although, in this regard, Canada’s efforts are rather undermined by the lax gun laws of its neighbour to the south. An overwhelming number of criminal handguns intercepted by the police in Canada are illegally sourced from the US.

Yeah.....the article is from 2015...dipstick...

Posted: Aug 04, 2015 8:34 PM ETLast Updated: Aug 04, 2015 8:34 PM ET


And the other article....

JULY 15, 2015 08:35 PM EDT | UPDATED: WEDNESDAY, JULY 15, 2015 08:38 PM EDT

 

[charwin95]

What's Canada's murder rate?

Yeah....doesn't matter....it is going up because.....gun control doesn't work...it shouldn't be going up at all since Canada has strict gun control laws...right? and yet it is....why...because some of their criminals have decided they need guns because they want to shoot people....so they got guns and they shot people.......even with all of Canada's gun control laws.....

Yes it does matter because canadian thugs are buying them from US. And you have to drag Obama with your racist bullshit. It's good for you because you can sell more guns.

 

[2aguy]

Hmmm...and another Canadian city......

UPDATED: Why does Moncton have such high gun-crime rates?



Note: Updated with further analysis Sunday, June 8, 2014

The fatal, terrifying rampage of a shooter tearing through Moncton Wednesday and Thursday was rare.

But in this Maritime municipality gun crime, relatively speaking, is not.

Ownership isn’t unusually high: There were about 50 firearm licences per 1,000 in Moncton in 2010, on par with Fredericton (but higher than Halifax).

But Moncton has one of the highest rates of violent crime of any Canadian city.

• And, along with Halifax, it boasted the highest rate of firearm-related violent crime among Canadian cities in 2012, according to Statistics Canada. That year, Moncton had a rate of 39 violent, firearm-related incidents per 100,000 people. And almost 80 per cent of victims involved in gun-related crime in Moncton that year were shot by handguns.

Violent gun crime involving rifles of the kind Justin Bourque’s accused of using to shoot three RCMP officers to death accounted for under six per cent of the city’s gun-related violent incidents that year. (13 per cent of violent crime involving firearms involved a “firearm-like weapon” such as flare or pellet guns)

But.....I thought Canada had strict gun control laws......

funny we didn't hear about that shooting down here.......or the gun crimes happening in Canada.......

 

[2aguy]

What's Canada's murder rate?

Yeah....doesn't matter....it is going up because.....gun control doesn't work...it shouldn't be going up at all since Canada has strict gun control laws...right? and yet it is....why...because some of their criminals have decided they need guns because they want to shoot people....so they got guns and they shot people.......even with all of Canada's gun control laws.....

Yes it does matter because canadian thugs are buying them from US. And you have to drag Obama with your racist bullshit. It's good for you because you can sell more guns.

Sorry.....anti gunners say gun control doesn't work in Mexico because it isn't first world...even though they have strict gun control laws and don't allow their people to have guns...and yes....I know on paper they do....but no, they don't allow their people to have guns...

And Canada is a first world country with first world police forces and strict gun control laws, so it doesn't matter if the U.S. has guns.....Canada's strict gun control is allegedly keeping guns out of Canada's criminal class....but as we see, that too is a lie......criminals get guns when they want or need them no matter how many gun control laws you pass....

 

[2aguy]

What's Canada's murder rate?

I'ts +/- . 5/100,000. That's .5 compared to America's 3.2. This guy accused me of lying about something (I'm not sure what) in another thread. I'd say this framing he's trying out, including dragging Obama into his phony narrative, amounts to an obvious lie.

2aguy is dum az fuq bruh

2aguy is dum az fuq bruh

Allow me to translate from "left wing anti gun talk"

Translation begins:

Uh oh........Canada was one of those countries we throw in the faces of 2nd Amendment supporters.....we need Canada to not have gun crime because we say gun control laws work...even though we know they don't, but we need the uninformed Americans to just buy the crap we are selling about gun control....

And once again....2aguy has shown that we are lying....or just stupid....sometimes I don't even know which one we are....I am going for both...we lie and we are stupid...but we can't let the 2nd Amendment supporters know that.....well...they already know that...but we can't let the rest of the U.S. know that...we have to ban guns.....they are scary .....

End Translation.

 

[2aguy]

What's Canada's murder rate?

Not relevant......we are told that Canada's gun control laws keep guns out of the hands of criminals in Canada...you nuts are very specific about that.....and it isn't true.....as I keep pointing out, criminals will get guns no matter how many laws you pass....and they will use them when they want to use them....

That Canadian criminals use guns less than our inner city gangs do is a cultural issue...the fact that they can get guns whenever they want them despite Canada's gun laws is a factual issue.......

 

[rightwinger]

Let's experiment by adopting Canada's gun rules and see what happens to our murder rate