Would you support this law?

[M14 Shooter]

Because for the vast majority...when you hit 66 you're physically done

You cannot demonstrate this to be true.

And even if you are right... so?

Soc Sec is an insurance program, to pay benefits should people survive to old age.
When created, "old age" was set as 3 years past expected life expectancy.
You cannot present a sound argument as to why that standard should change.

 

[M14 Shooter]

But according to the reprehensible right, it’s the 66-year old’s ‘fault’ for having ‘failed’ to pursue another career that wasn’t physically demanding.

^^^^
This fails as a straw man fallacy.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

^^^^
This fails as a straw man fallacy.

The right’s contempt for working Americans is well-documented – from conservatives’ hostility to labor unions to their unwarranted opposition to minimum wage increases.

Social Security and Medicare is no different, with conservatives blaming working Americans for ‘failing’ to earn enough to save for retirement.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The right’s contempt for working Americans is well-documented

^^^^
Proof you know your statement is a strawman.

You -know- "the right" does not argue "it’s the 66-year old’s ‘fault’ for having failed to pursue another career that wasn’t physically demanding"; if "the right" actually did so, you could provide an example.

You know -- just like we do when you lie about Democrats not wanting to ban guns.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Uh no. What matters is the here and now.

And here and now it is Republicans who want to do damage to social security and Dems who are trying to protect and strengthen it.

Regardless of your total bullshit

Exactly.

And let’s be clear – Republicans seek to end Social Security and Medicare; to advocate for ‘privatizing’ Social Security and Medicare, or to advocate for ‘sunsetting’ Social Security and Medicare, or to allow working Americans to ‘opt out’ of paying into the programs is to seek to end Social Security and Medicare.

Americans shouldn’t be deceived by Republicans’ Orwellian double-speak.

What Republicans have actually said about cuts to Social Security and Medicare

President Biden drew a raucous response from Republicans during his State of the Union address on Tuesday night when he said some GOP lawmakers want to cut Social Security and Medicare. “Anybody wh…

thehill.com

 

[Patriot01]

Exactly.

And let’s be clear – Republicans seek to end Social Security and Medicare; to advocate for ‘privatizing’ Social Security and Medicare, or to advocate for ‘sunsetting’ Social Security and Medicare, or to allow working Americans to ‘opt out’ of paying into the programs is to seek to end Social Security and Medicare.

Americans shouldn’t be deceived by Republicans’ Orwellian double-speak.

What Republicans have actually said about cuts to Social Security and Medicare

President Biden drew a raucous response from Republicans during his State of the Union address on Tuesday night when he said some GOP lawmakers want to cut Social Security and Medicare. “Anybody wh…

thehill.com

You mean they want to fund it?

 

[M14 Shooter]

And let’s be clear – Republicans seek to end Social Security and Medicare;

^^^^
This fails as a strawman fallacy

 

[M14 Shooter]

... to advocate for ‘privatizing’ Social Security and Medicare, or to advocate for ‘sunsetting’ Social Security and Medicare, or to allow working Americans to ‘opt out’ of paying into the programs is to seek to end Social Security and Medicare.

^^^
This fails as a false equivalence fallacy.

 

[Delldude]

Uh no. What matters is the here and now.

And here and now it is Republicans who want to do damage to social security and Dems who are trying to protect and strengthen it.

Regardless of your total bullshit

Dude, you are being used......Dem's toss this crap out all the time and the useful idiots fall in line to scream it from the highest mountains.

You ever stop and think how these dastardly republicans will get their evil changes through the senate?

Didn't think so..............keep on screaming.

You'll love this, this what was actually said by Rick Scott:

And then Scott added this: "All federal legislation sunsets in five years. If a law is worth keeping, Congress can pass it again." To which Democrats immediately screamed: All legislation? That would include Medicare and Social Security! Look! Republicans want to kill Medicare and Social Security!
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So when Scott proposed a five-year sunset on legislation, and Democrats began yelling that that must surely include Medicare and Social Security, nearly all Republicans began to run away from Scott — including Scott himself, who loudly proclaimed that he had no intention of cutting Medicare and Social Security. "No one that I know of wants to sunset Medicare or Social Security," Scott said. Senate Minority leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) repeatedly told the press that Republicans most emphatically did not support Scott's plan. In addition, the Washington Post fact-checker gave the Democratic charge "Four Pinocchios," which the paper defined as a "whopper."

Nevertheless, Democrats kept up the attack because accusing Republicans of wanting to kill Medicare and Social Security is what they do. So no one was surprised when Biden did what he did in the State of the Union.
________________________________
It was a perfect Washington BS moment. But here's the thing. Everybody knows that Congress will have to make significant changes to Medicare and Social Security for those programs to remain solvent. And the government can't just keep spending more and more on the programs lest they someday consume the entire federal budget.

http://click1.trk-washingtonexaminer.com/ViewMessage.do;jsessionid=C8422619118334732D28527672BAFCEB

 

[M14 Shooter]

Dude, you are being used....

Shhhh...
Most useful idiots don't know they're useful idiots - and don't want to.

 

[struth]

The right’s contempt for working Americans is well-documented – from conservatives’ hostility to labor unions to their unwarranted opposition to minimum wage increases.

Social Security and Medicare is no different, with conservatives blaming working Americans for ‘failing’ to earn enough to save for retirement.

hahhaha working Americans aren't unions...unions are a political organization...working Americans are people.....and you are right, the right is not concerned with min wages for working americans....we are concerned with max wages....the left is only concerned with min wages because they want to keep people poor and paid a minium, not a max.....and they want them to be forced to join a union, and take part of their wages to fund their party....

horrible

 

[Lesh]

Dude, you are being used......Dem's toss this crap out all the time and the useful idiots fall in line to scream it from the highest mountains.

You ever stop and think how these dastardly republicans will get their evil changes through the senate?

Didn't think so..............keep on screaming.

You'll love this, this what was actually said by Rick Scott:

And then Scott added this: "All federal legislation sunsets in five years. If a law is worth keeping, Congress can pass it again." To which Democrats immediately screamed: All legislation? That would include Medicare and Social Security! Look! Republicans want to kill Medicare and Social Security!
_________________________________
So when Scott proposed a five-year sunset on legislation, and Democrats began yelling that that must surely include Medicare and Social Security, nearly all Republicans began to run away from Scott — including Scott himself, who loudly proclaimed that he had no intention of cutting Medicare and Social Security. "No one that I know of wants to sunset Medicare or Social Security," Scott said. Senate Minority leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) repeatedly told the press that Republicans most emphatically did not support Scott's plan. In addition, the Washington Post fact-checker gave the Democratic charge "Four Pinocchios," which the paper defined as a "whopper."

Nevertheless, Democrats kept up the attack because accusing Republicans of wanting to kill Medicare and Social Security is what they do. So no one was surprised when Biden did what he did in the State of the Union.
________________________________
It was a perfect Washington BS moment. But here's the thing. Everybody knows that Congress will have to make significant changes to Medicare and Social Security for those programs to remain solvent. And the government can't just keep spending more and more on the programs lest they someday consume the entire federal budget.

http://click1.trk-washingtonexaminer.com/ViewMessage.do;jsessionid=C8422619118334732D28527672BAFCEB

Your defense is that Dems in the Senate will prevent GOP efforts to damage or destroy Social Security?

Really?

 

[Delldude]

Your defense is that Dems in the Senate will prevent GOP efforts to damage or destroy Social Security?

Really?

No, that the dem mantra is and has been bullshit all along, even called out by WAPO.

And you've proven yourself to be one of the many useful idiots.

 

[struth]

Your defense is that Dems in the Senate will prevent GOP efforts to damage or destroy Social Security?

Really?

Sounds like the defense is the Demafascist got caught lying again....In addition, the Washington Post fact-checker gave the Democratic charge "Four Pinocchios," which the paper defined as a "whopper."

 

[Lesh]

No, that the dem mantra is and has been bullshit all along, even called out by WAPO.

And you've proven yourself to be one of the many useful idiots.

You’re the one claiming that the GOP can’t get this bullshit through the Dem Senate

 

[Delldude]

You’re the one claiming that the GOP can’t get this bullshit through the Dem Senate

No, that was pointing out something that you hadn't thought of during your 'I Hate The GOP' rant.

I see it still is flying over your head.

WAPO.....four pinochios.....priceless