Would you allow everyone to own a fully auto M4 carbine?

[Crepitus]

Nothing in there says anything about the right being conditioned on actual membership in a particular militia. All it says is that a militia is necessary for the security of a free state. And, because it is necessary, FedGov will not infringe on the right of the people.

We can have everything the military has because "shall not be infringed" means no restrictions of any kind.

You can dick suck your way around the words all you want. Any other way you try to spin it is nonsense and deviates from the plain meaning of the text.

You don't like it? AMEND, YOU BUTTFUCKING PIECE OF SHIT!!!

It actually specifies that the right applies to militia membership and was interpreted that way until activist judges got ahold of it in 2008.

Do you think the meaning changed after being interpreted one way for well over 200 years? Or do you think the supreme court and many other courts at all levels were wrong for over 200 years?

 

[westwall]

On that note, which well regulated militia are you a member of?

The GENERAL militia. That which is made up of every able bodied male between the ages of 18 and 65.

Though I am now 75. I am in good shape.

 

[Crepitus]

It was NEVER even questioned

Because it was understood. Nobody had reason to change it, everyone knew what it meant.

 

[Crepitus]

The GENERAL militia. That which is made up of every able bodied male between the ages of 18 and 65.

Though I am now 75. I am in good shape.

Ah, this thing you made up in your head.

Cool, I guess. Don't forget to wear your helmet.

 

[Colin norris]

Would you allow everyone to own a fully auto capable M4 carbine?

If everyone was a responsible gun owner who never committed crimes? If somehow we could filter out the irresponsible gun owners?

There is no test for everyone being responsible. It's an assumption. It cannot be anything else when they all say they need a gun to protect themselves when that scenario never happens.

Filtering is a form of gun control. Isn't that what you all protest against?
Do you ever read what you write?
It's people like you and your idiotic statements which is why you should have nnohing other than a water pistol.

 

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[progressive hunter]

It actually specifies that the right applies to militia membership and was interpreted that way until activist judges got ahold of it in 2008.

Do you think the meaning changed after being interpreted one way for well over 200 years? Or do you think the supreme court and many other courts at all levels were wrong for over 200 years?

how does,, "THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE" mean militia members???

wouldnt it say "right of militia members" instead??

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Would you allow everyone to own a fully auto capable M4 carbine?

If everyone was a responsible gun owner who never committed crimes? If somehow we could filter out the irresponsible gun owners?

Yes

 

[AZrailwhale]

Why?

They can do huge amounts of damage in a very short time, why do you need it?

You obviously have never shot an automatic weapon. On full auto the first round goes where you are aiming. the second, a foot or so higher, the third a foot or so higher than that and the rest of the rounds go above the target. So a fully automatic weapon (a machine gun or Assault Weapon/Rifle) actually does less damage than a semi automatic one. That's why the military got rid of full auto on it's rifles and went to three round bursts.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Because otherwise it would take all day to get to Lincoln from here.

Next?

Why do you NEED to go to Lincoln? I'm sure a text, phone call or email would accomplish your ends as well as wasting valuable resources and putting yourself and other people in danger by actually driving there.

 

[westwall]

Ah, this thing you made up in your head.

Cool, I guess. Don't forget to wear your helmet.

Nope, it's codified. Not that you would ever admit to it.

 

[AZrailwhale]

"Shall not be infringed" doesn't specify. Do you want your neighbor to have a nuclear bomb?

You know, I honestly don't care what my neighbor owns as long as he uses it in a legal manner. Jet fighter, fine, B-52 bomber, fine, M-1 Tank, go for it. Personally I can't see where anyone would want to own any of them, but it's a free country, so go for it.

 

[AZrailwhale]

On that note, which well regulated militia are you a member of?"

"The whole of the people"

 

[fncceo]

Would you allow everyone to own a fully auto capable M4 carbine?

ONLY ... if it came with the grenade launcher.

 

[AZrailwhale]

It actually specifies that the right applies to militia membership and was interpreted that way until activist judges got ahold of it in 2008.

Do you think the meaning changed after being interpreted one way for well over 200 years? Or do you think the supreme court and many other courts at all levels were wrong for over 200 years?

No it doesn't. The framers saw the entire body of white adult males to be the militia. read their letters. or the Federalist Papers some time. They specifically address the point multiple times.

 

[Pete7469]

Would you allow everyone to own a fully auto capable M4 carbine?

If everyone was a responsible gun owner who never committed crimes? If somehow we could filter out the irresponsible gun owners?

If a person can not be trusted to be free among the population with an M4, then they should not be loose in public.

If we never began trying to disarm criminals, and instead encouraged or even armed the population en masse we would not have an abundance of criminals in the first place. We would also not have so many leftist lunatics. We may have had a lot more killing going on 100 years ago, but it would have resulted in a lot less people being born generations ago that are causing more problems than they're worth today.


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[Pete7469]

No it doesn't. The framers saw the entire body of white adult males to be the militia. read their letters. or the Federalist Papers some time. They specifically address the point multiple times.

Crappyass is far too stupid to grasp anything written by the founders.


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[Ordinary Guy]

who needs a M4 when they have a Barret 50 and Armalite 308

 

[Otis Mayfield]

You obviously have never shot an automatic weapon. On full auto the first round goes where you are aiming. the second, a foot or so higher, the third a foot or so higher than that and the rest of the rounds go above the target. So a fully automatic weapon (a machine gun or Assault Weapon/Rifle) actually does less damage than a semi automatic one. That's why the military got rid of full auto on it's rifles and went to three round bursts.

Some of the submachineguns are very accurate on full auto.

 

[Pete7469]

You obviously have never shot an automatic weapon. On full auto the first round goes where you are aiming. the second, a foot or so higher, the third a foot or so higher than that and the rest of the rounds go above the target. So a fully automatic weapon (a machine gun or Assault Weapon/Rifle) actually does less damage than a semi automatic one. That's why the military got rid of full auto on it's rifles and went to three round bursts.

Although for the most part you're correct, some of us had the ammo budget and training required that at 25m we could put a full 30rnd mag of 5.56mm into a man sized target in a single trigger pull.

Still, the best results are semi-auto fire on target. Auto fire is just for suppressing return fire. Besides that, the 3 shot burst triggers sucked. That's why the M4A1 is now the standard.


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