With Roe On Life Support: How The F%^& Did We Get Here?

[daveman]

This is my own understanding of the text of the constitution. I don't understand the focus on claiming one's rights rather than doing one's duty. It is the only thing that seems to be going on. Doing one's duty would be much better for the general welfare. It is only through doing one's duty that anyone has any rights.

You have to earn your rights?

No. Rights are innate, inborn. Says so in the Constitution. Read it again.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

What happened? Evangelicals began to get into politics … because of desegregation. When public schools were desegregated in the 1950s, white Evangelicals and even some Catholics left in droves, the Evangelicals especially sending their kids to so-called “segregation academies,” religious schools that only admitted white people. (Jerry Falwell ran one.) At the same time as Roe was being argued, those academies were found to be illegal, even though white Christians protested that their religious beliefs compelled them to keep the races separated.

Conservative Evangelicals and Catholics had tended to avoid the mess of politics, and rarely agreed with one another. But with courts forcing white Christians to go to school with Black kids, that changed, and in the late 1970s, the Christian right was born. Yet there was a problem: preserving segregation was no longer an effective unifying issue. And so, Paul Weyrich, Falwell, and other founders of the Christian right — in a history meticulously documented by Randall Balmer — seized on abortion instead.

Abortion was perfect. Support for abortion overlapped with support for desegregation, women’s rights, gay rights, and the sexual revolution. If you fought one, you could fight the others too. Plus abortion was an emotional issue that was easily used to whip up anger and indignation, as well as to drive people to the polls (and to donate money).

The gambit worked. The Christian right got Ronald Reagan elected in 1980, and since then, opposition to abortion has been a defining issue of the Republican Party. And for the last 45 years, the Christian right has been methodically, meticulously planning for this very moment. Christian fundamentalists only supported politicians who were “Pro-Life,” driving moderate Republicans out of the party. They made being “Pro-Life” central to their religious identity. Despite the obvious history, and the total lack of Biblical support, they made “life begins at conception” into dogma.

And they worked to transform the judiciary. Judges and justices began to be vetted for their stances on abortion rights, usually in code. With a newly minted philosophy called “originalism,” legal scholars and judges said that only rights that were “part of our Nation’s history and tradition” were covered by the constitution’s guarantees. No one believed this preposterous idea fifty years ago, but now five Supreme Court justices do.

The Supreme Court Just Overturned Roe v. Wade. How The Fuck Did We Get Here?

Abortion is as old as sex — especially non-consensual sex. But it was not usually something governments cared about.

www.rollingstone.com

Jerry Falwell. One of the biggest pieces of shit to ever exist on this planet.

If it's overturned the most innocent of all win

 

[Blackrook]

Planned Parenthood was founded by Margaret Sanger, who promoted birth control as a way to control the population of poor people and minorities. Planned Parenthood clinics are built in minority neighborhoods to make it easy for minority women to get abortions. Minorities have abortions at a much higher rate than whites.

Given these facts, it's quite strange to accuse pro-lifers of being the racists on this issue.

 

[eagle1462010]

We got here because of Blue States, Planned Parenthood, and their disregard for life.

Roe V. Wade ALLOWED States to pass laws against abortion after VIABILITY......which they quoted at 24 weeks.

Most Blue states allow ABORTION ON DEMAND.........and after 24 weeks.........and say we don't give a damn about the Childs VIABILITY......And have the right to murder that baby whenever they please.

In all actuality they are in VIOLATION OF ROE V WADE for doing so.

 

[22lcidw]

What happened? Evangelicals began to get into politics … because of desegregation. When public schools were desegregated in the 1950s, white Evangelicals and even some Catholics left in droves, the Evangelicals especially sending their kids to so-called “segregation academies,” religious schools that only admitted white people. (Jerry Falwell ran one.) At the same time as Roe was being argued, those academies were found to be illegal, even though white Christians protested that their religious beliefs compelled them to keep the races separated.

Conservative Evangelicals and Catholics had tended to avoid the mess of politics, and rarely agreed with one another. But with courts forcing white Christians to go to school with Black kids, that changed, and in the late 1970s, the Christian right was born. Yet there was a problem: preserving segregation was no longer an effective unifying issue. And so, Paul Weyrich, Falwell, and other founders of the Christian right — in a history meticulously documented by Randall Balmer — seized on abortion instead.

Abortion was perfect. Support for abortion overlapped with support for desegregation, women’s rights, gay rights, and the sexual revolution. If you fought one, you could fight the others too. Plus abortion was an emotional issue that was easily used to whip up anger and indignation, as well as to drive people to the polls (and to donate money).

The gambit worked. The Christian right got Ronald Reagan elected in 1980, and since then, opposition to abortion has been a defining issue of the Republican Party. And for the last 45 years, the Christian right has been methodically, meticulously planning for this very moment. Christian fundamentalists only supported politicians who were “Pro-Life,” driving moderate Republicans out of the party. They made being “Pro-Life” central to their religious identity. Despite the obvious history, and the total lack of Biblical support, they made “life begins at conception” into dogma.

And they worked to transform the judiciary. Judges and justices began to be vetted for their stances on abortion rights, usually in code. With a newly minted philosophy called “originalism,” legal scholars and judges said that only rights that were “part of our Nation’s history and tradition” were covered by the constitution’s guarantees. No one believed this preposterous idea fifty years ago, but now five Supreme Court justices do.

The Supreme Court Just Overturned Roe v. Wade. How The Fuck Did We Get Here?

Abortion is as old as sex — especially non-consensual sex. But it was not usually something governments cared about.

www.rollingstone.com

Jerry Falwell. One of the biggest pieces of shit to ever exist on this planet.

Tere are a lot of pieces of shit. Progs infecting the system over the many decades has caused this. Overkill in agendas that will never end because utopia does not exist. But resources to pay for them are finite.

 

[petro]

Less abortions means more future liberals.
Be careful what you wish for.

 

[eagle1462010]

Less abortions means more future liberals.
Be careful what you wish for.

It will change nothing in Blue States...........It just takes the Fed out of it for Red States.........

The challenge now is 15 weeks..........Roe v Wade set the milestone at 24 weeks and questionably to 22 weeks with a 10% viability rate.

In essence the left is going postal that they CAN'T TELL RED STATES how to live.....Only in Red States are they challenging when life begins......this is about FEDERAL POWER and them wanting to DICTATE TO ALL STATES THEIR VIEWS.

Red States are telling them to GO TO HELL HERE. About time.

 

[PoliticalChic]

As aways, we must begin any discussion of truth with this proviso: Democrats lie about everything.



1.Quite a hullabaloo over the Supremes reviewing the case for Roe. Why?

The only document that Americans have agreed to be governed by is the Constitution. It is written in English….no ‘interpretation’ is required. It is a binding contract between the Founders and the American people, to be enforced as written, unless amended.

There is not a single reference or word in the Constitution about abortion. Article 1, section 8 lists the powers authorized to the federal government. The list has naught to do with abortion…and certainly not to the latest Democrat demand, infanticide.

TENTH AMENDMENT
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
10th Amendment US Constitution--Reserved Powers - Govinfo ...
https://www.govinfo.gov › GPO-CONAN-1992-10-11



2. Is abortion killing? You betcha’ it is.

Killing: an act of causing death, especially deliberately. (Google)

"An individual human life begins at conception when a sperm cell from the father fuses with an egg cell from the mother, to form a new cell, the zygote, the first embryonic stage. The zygote grows and divides into two daughter cells, each of which grows and divides into two grand-daughter cells, and this cell growth/division process continues on, over and over again. The zygote is the start of a biological continuum that automatically grows and develops, passing gradually and sequentially through the stages we call foetus, baby, child, adult, old person and ending eventually in death. The full genetic instructions to guide the development of the continuum, in interaction with its environment, are present in the zygote. Every stage along the continuum is biologically human and each point along the continuum has the full human properties appropriate to that point." - Dr. William Reville, University College Cork, Ireland



3. “It’s my body, my choice.”

False. No, the unborn is not a part of the mother's body....it has a unique DNA component.

A mother breast feeding her new born is just as nourishing and just as necessary to that organism....but you want the a "right" to kill that one too.



4. “It’s about the life of that mother!”

OK….let’s abort. But in every other case, let’s forbid it….m’kay?

Nearly every abortion is based on convenience, that’s 98.5%.....Convenience, as in having your groceries delivered rather than having to walk across the street to pick them up.....this level of consideration in deciding to execute the child you've created.



5. “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” Thomas Jefferson.


And based on the above, every American is pro-life.
Time and again we find that Democrats are not Americans.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

"Democrats played pure and lost".

ROTFLOL!!!!

 

[eagle1462010]

Less abortions means more future liberals.
Be careful what you wish for.

Changes nothing for them........their laws will still be barbaric.

 

[Moonglow]

Democrats lie about everything.

Which is an illogical deduction which is an opinion and not fact since you failed to prove every single Democrat in the world lies.

 

[PoliticalChic]

As aways, we must begin any discussion of truth with this proviso: Democrats lie about everything.



1.Quite a hullabaloo over the Supremes reviewing the case for Roe. Why?

The only document that Americans have agreed to be governed by is the Constitution. It is written in English….no ‘interpretation’ is required. It is a binding contract between the Founders and the American people, to be enforced as written, unless amended.

There is not a single reference or word in the Constitution about abortion. Article 1, section 8 lists the powers authorized to the federal government. The list has naught to do with abortion…and certainly not to the latest Democrat demand, infanticide.

TENTH AMENDMENT

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Con- stitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

10th Amendment US Constitution--Reserved Powers - Govinfo ...

https://www.govinfo.gov › GPO-CONAN-1992-10-11



2. Is abortion killing? You betcha’ it is.

Killing: an act of causing death, especially deliberately. (Google)

"An individual human life begins at conception when a sperm cell from the father fuses with an egg cell from the mother, to form a new cell, the zygote, the first embryonic stage. The zygote grows and divides into two daughter cells, each of which grows and divides into two grand-daughter cells, and this cell growth/division process continues on, over and over again. The zygote is the start of a biological continuum that automatically grows and develops, passing gradually and sequentially through the stages we call foetus, baby, child, adult, old person and ending eventually in death. The full genetic instructions to guide the development of the continuum, in interaction with its environment, are present in the zygote. Every stage along the continuum is biologically human and each point along the continuum has the full human properties appropriate to that point." - Dr. William Reville, University College Cork, Ireland



3. “It’s my body, my choice.”

False. No, the unborn is not a part of the mother's body....it has a unique DNA component.

A mother breast feeding her new born is just as nourishing and just as necessary to that organism....but you want the a "right" to kill that one too.



4. “It’s about the life of that mother!”

OK….let’s abort. But in every other case, let’s forbid it….m’kay?

Nearly every abortion is based on convenience, that’s 98.5%.....Convenience, as in having your groceries delivered rather than having to walk across the street to pick them up.....this level of consideration in deciding to execute the child you've created.



5. “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” Thomas Jefferson.


And based on the above, every American is pro-life.
Time and again we find that Democrats are not Americans.


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Democrats to Americans: "We love death more than you love life."



Kinda explains their fascination with Islamofascists, too, doesn't it.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

It's very easy to kill another when you dehumanize that life by calling that life nothing more than a tumor.

*****SAD SMILE*****

 

[PoliticalChic]

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It's very easy to kill another when you dehumanize that life by calling that life nothing more than a tumor.

*****SAD SMILE*****

They lie about everything, don't they.

 

[eagle1462010]

::Issues4Life Foundation | Judgment At Nuremberg

The Issues4Life Foundation is dedicated to addressing the issues surrounding the inviolability or sanctity of human life in the African-American community.

www.issues4life.org

On Monday, January 22nd, 1973 the United States Supreme Court decided Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 and simultaneously with a companion case, Doe v. Bolton regarding the issue of abortion. The Court ruled 7–2 that a right to privacy "somewhere" under the due process clause of the 14th Amendment extended to a woman's decision to have an abortion, but that this right must be balanced against the state's two (2) legitimate interests in regulating abortions and protecting women's health and ultimately the protection the potentiality of human life. Importantly, the United States Supreme Court never declared abortion itself to be a constitutional right. Rather, the Supreme Court said: "We need not resolve the difficult question of when life begins … the judiciary at this point in the development of man's knowledge, is not in a position to speculate as to the answer." Then, in the very text of the Roe v. Wade decision, the High Court made a key admission:

"The appellee and certain amici argue that the fetus is a "person" within the language and meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment. In support of this, they outline at length and in detail the well-known facts of fetal development. If this suggestion of personhood is established, the appellant's case, of course, collapses, [410 U.S. 113, 157] for the fetus' right to life would then be guaranteed specifically by the Amendment."1

In my opinion, the United States Supreme Court needed to "resolve the difficult question of when life begins … " before rendering judgment on the death of the only product of a human male and a human female, that is a human being. Below are clips from the 1961 movie Judgment at Nuremburg. In light of the fact that not one (1) of the seven (7) Supreme Court justices that made up the majority for 1973 Roe v. Wade decision are alive today, you can be the judge. Top

FindLaw's United States Supreme Court case and opinions.

FindLaw's searchable database of United States Supreme Court decisions since

caselaw.findlaw.com

Abortion Policy: Gestational Limits and Exceptions | KFF

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[PoliticalChic]

This is the benefit of having control of the media, that informational dominance.

They simply define the unborn out of life, just as they have defined Asians out of 'people of color.'



"Whenever liberals are in a tight spot, they adopt the scorched-earth policy of argumentation. With no answer, they start demanding that you define words: What do you mean “liberal”? What do you mean “democracy”? What do you mean “patriotism”?

They retreat from argument, burning the English language as they go. - Ann Coulter

 

[Moonglow]

Democrats to Americans: "We love death more than you love life."



Kinda explains their fascination with Islamofascists, too, doesn't it.

Prove only Democrats have abortions and that only Democrats support abortion.
Some 63% of respondents, including 78% of Democrats and 49% of Republicans, said they were more likely to support candidates who support abortion rights in the Nov. 8 election that will determine control of Congress for the next two years.

Majority of Americans prefer political candidates who support abortion: Reuters/Ipsos poll

Nearly two-thirds of Americans said they are more likely to back candidates who support the right to abortion in the November midterm elections, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted on Tuesday.

www.reuters.com

 

[eagle1462010]

Riddle me this..............If Roe V Wade was overturned today.

Would it change any law in New York? Would it ban Abortion there?

 

[eagle1462010]

Prove only Democrats have abortions and that only Democrats support abortion.
Some 63% of respondents, including 78% of Democrats and 49% of Republicans, said they were more likely to support candidates who support abortion rights in the Nov. 8 election that will determine control of Congress for the next two years.

Majority of Americans prefer political candidates who support abortion: Reuters/Ipsos poll

Nearly two-thirds of Americans said they are more likely to back candidates who support the right to abortion in the November midterm elections, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted on Tuesday.

www.reuters.com

Moonbat chimes in trying to change what the op said by telling others look what she said............But she didn't. Kinda like drink Bleach routine from the Clowns like MOONBAT MOONER here.......

But blue states have allowed abortion on demand for decades upon decades after the 24 week viable life ruling of Roe v Wade.

Shows us leftist can ONLY LIE to fake outrage over their LIES.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You have to earn your rights?

No. Rights are innate, inborn. Says so in the Constitution. Read it again.

He sounds like he crossed the border and was given amnesty.