Wisconsin Giving Tax Surplus to the People!

[Antares]

You lie.

Please explain the lie, The Bush tax cuts were for everyone, that is why Congress had a battle over them when Obama came into office, and the timing of the recession, it made it difficult for the Democrats to repeal.

After a Democratic majority accepted the tax cuts as per Obama's request, they became Obama's tax cuts.

Our debt is doubled up and Democrats are on record as voting for the wars.

No seeing the lie, you claim.

You fucking liar Carb....

Senate Democratic votes for the Iraq War

If you remember that day, it was a day of speeches. And at least out among the Littles, the final count wasn’t known until the roll was called. Here are your brave warrior Dems, those who voted Yes, covered in testosterone (or confusion) and glory. I’ve highlighted a few names to note:

YEAs — 77
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Breaux (D-LA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carnahan (D-MO)
Carper (D-DE)
Cleland (D-GA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Daschle (D-SD)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Edwards (D-NC)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA) Hollings (D-SC)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Miller (D-GA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Schumer (D-NY)
Torricelli (D-NJ)

No asshole, even the asshole who originally lied about the debt has admitted he lied. That makes you an asshole's asshole.

And no the Democrats did not vote for the Iraq war. They voted against it. 147 - 111.

The Iraq War: Who voted for it, why you should still care (hint: Iran)

 

[Antares]

You lie.

I see no "lies" NY...though maybe one minor correction is in order.

Bush did indeed cut taxes for all taxpayers and they continue under the current administration. Further, it is true that lots of Dems voted to authorize war...couldn't have passed without them.

The correction I would make is that debt has not YET doubled under Obama.

On January 20, 2009, the day Mr. Obama took office, the debt stood at $10.626 trillion. Today, the debt stands at $17.338 trillion. So, it has not yet doubled but it CERTAINLY WILL by the time he leaves office.

Is that the "lie" you were referring to NY?

So you admit you lied about the amount of the debt. Why did you lie?

Nor did Democrats vote for the Iraq war. They voted against it.

Nor does Obama control how much debt we have.

That's 3 lies in one short sprint. You really are a reprehensible piece of human garbage.

Just a partial list you lying asshole.

107 29379 13 14 NEW YOR D MALONEY 38 547 0.931 79.000 YES
107 29348 21 4 ILLINOI D GUTIERREZ 45 503 0.911 83.000 NO
107 14039 3 9 MASSACH D MOAKLEY 2 47 0.957 83.000
107 14421 34 3 MISSOUR D GEPHARDT 43 523 0.918 83.000 YES
107 29720 22 10 INDIANA D CARSON 36 526 0.932 83.000 NO
107 13035 13 15 NEW YOR D RANGEL CHA 38 533 0.929 83.000 NO
107 14248 13 29 NEW YOR D LAFALCE 57 539 0.894 86.500 NO
107 15023 21 17 ILLINOI D EVANS LANE 43 550 0.922 86.500 NO
107 29358 3 5 MASSACH D MEEHAN 28 527 0.947 89.000 YES
107 15442 24 14 OHIO D SAWYER 23 548 0.958 89.000 NO
107 15616 3 2 MASSACH D NEAL RICHA 39 535 0.927 89.000 NO
107 15245 82 1 HAWAII D ABERCROMBIE 84 532 0.842 91.500 NO
107 29316 71 30 CALIFOR D BECERRA 30 507 0.941 91.500 NO
107 2605 23 16 MICHIGA D DINGELL 62 524 0.882 93.500 NO
107 29715 43 19 FLORIDA D WEXLER 30 503 0.940 93.500 YES
107 29709 71 46 CALIFOR D SANCHEZ 61 540 0.887 95.500 NO
107 20136 5 2 RHODE I D LANGEVIN 58 554 0.895 95.500 NO
107 29586 71 37 CALIFOR D MILLENDER-M 20 505 0.960 97.500 NO
107 14837 71 12 CALIFOR D LANTOS 29 535 0.946 97.500 YES
107 29903 71 34 CALIFOR D NAPOLITANO 28 538 0.948 99.000 NO
107 29716 21 5 ILLINOI D BLAGOJEVICH 41 478 0.914 101.500 YES
107 15603 13 17 NEW YOR D ENGEL 31 524 0.941 101.500 YES
107 29533 33 6 MINNESO D LUTHER 40 527 0.924 101.500 YES
107 29926 13 9 NEW YOR D WEINER ANT 35 548 0.936 101.500 YES
107 29535 34 5 MISSOUR D MCCARTHY 36 547 0.934 104.500 NO
107 15612 13 18 NEW YOR D LOWEY 23 545 0.958 104.500 YES
107 29937 73 1 WASHING D INSLEE JAY 44 549 0.920 106.000 NO
107 15005 71 26 CALIFOR D BERMAN 32 519 0.938 108.000 YES
107 14280 71 29 CALIFOR D WAXMAN 26 507 0.949 108.000 YES
107 29750 72 5 OREGON D HOOLEY 54 551 0.902 108.000 NO
107 15000 13 5 NEW YOR D ACKERMAN 35 516 0.932 110.500 YES
107 20108 71 49 CALIFOR D DAVIS 40 554 0.928 110.500 NO
107 29771 49 28 TEXAS D RODRIGUEZ 44 537 0.918 113.500 NO
107 29742 12 9 NEW JER D ROTHMAN 41 517 0.921 113.500 YES
107 29312 71 14 CALIFOR D ESHOO 47 540 0.913 113.500 NO
107 15082 25 4 WISCONS D KLECZKA 45 546 0.918 113.500 NO
107 29707 71 24 CALIFOR D SHERMAN 34 555 0.939 116.500 YES
107 29109 1 3 CONNECT D DELAURO 25 554 0.955 116.500 NO
107 29330 43 5 FLORIDA D THURMAN 52 550 0.905 119.000 YES
107 29728 2 1 MAINE D ALLEN 36 540 0.933 119.000 NO
107 39307 40 3 VIRGINI D SCOTT 53 549 0.903 119.000 NO
107 29934 14 13 PENNSYL D HOEFFEL JO 31 551 0.944 121.000 YES
107 15008 14 3 PENNSYL D BORSKI 88 543 0.838 122.000 YES
107 29335 43 20 FLORIDA D DEUTSCH 41 523 0.922 124.000 YES
107 29922 65 1 NEVADA D BERKLEY SH 53 551 0.904 124.000 YES
107 29774 71 22 CALIFOR D CAPPS LOIS 31 550 0.944 124.000 NO
107 15438 47 4 NORTH C D PRICE DAVI 38 551 0.931 126.000 NO
107 29908 1 1 CONNECT D LARSON JOH 45 541 0.917 127.000 NO
107 29741 12 8 NEW JER D PASCRELL 52 552 0.906 128.500 YES
107 14649 71 5 CALIFOR D MATSUI 30 551 0.946 128.500 NO
107 29101 61 2 ARIZONA D PASTOR 48 554 0.913 130.500 NO
107 39304 49 29 TEXAS D GREEN GENE 64 551 0.884 130.500 YES
107 39301 48 6 SOUTH C D CLYBURN 57 549 0.896 133.500 NO
107 29334 43 17 FLORIDA D MEEK 45 497 0.909 133.500 NO
107 29328 43 3 FLORIDA D BROWN CORR 35 531 0.934 133.500 NO
107 29776 13 6 NEW YOR D MEEKS GREG 36 515 0.930 133.500 NO
107 15033 23 12 MICHIGA D LEVIN SAND 24 552 0.957 136.500 NO

 

[AvgGuyIA]

The soon to be indicted (liberals tell us this) Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker announced a plan for returning almost a billion dollars to the taxpayers.

Give the surplus back to Wisconsin taxpayers

How much this must hurt the liberals and the collective bargaining unions.

I was listening to the turnaround of Wisconsin because of Walkers polices, but haven't had the opportunity to look into it. Seems he turned a 6 billion dollar deficit into a surplus in 3 years. Not bad at all.

Don't you know that Conservative policies just don't work?

 

[AvgGuyIA]

The soon to be indicted (liberals tell us this) Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker announced a plan for returning almost a billion dollars to the taxpayers.

Give the surplus back to Wisconsin taxpayers

How much this must hurt the liberals and the collective bargaining unions.

Kind of depends.

How much more will Wisconsin's schools suck because they are underfunded.

How much will the quality of state services drop?

I mean, I have property in Wisconsin, I'll happily take the tax cut even though I don't live there.

They are not underfunded. Another canard.
But if the best the left can do against Walker is the bleating of Joe-Never-Held-A-Real-Job then Walker is a shoo-in for president.

The Unions are underfunded.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Notice how right wingers don't even question where the surplus came from?

If you cut a billion from education, it's remarkable how easy it is to end up with a billion dollar surplus.

Course, you end up with a failed southern state. Perhaps it's Republicans doing what they do best. Keeping people ignorant while they ruin the economy.

Schools create the surplus for the State? It's people's taxes funding the State. Surplus taxes is where the surplus came from. Governor Walker made sure the State spent it wisely and is now in a position to refund the surplus to the people who pay the taxes.

 

[eflatminor]

I see no "lies" NY...though maybe one minor correction is in order.

Bush did indeed cut taxes for all taxpayers and they continue under the current administration. Further, it is true that lots of Dems voted to authorize war...couldn't have passed without them.

The correction I would make is that debt has not YET doubled under Obama.

On January 20, 2009, the day Mr. Obama took office, the debt stood at $10.626 trillion. Today, the debt stands at $17.338 trillion. So, it has not yet doubled but it CERTAINLY WILL by the time he leaves office.

Is that the "lie" you were referring to NY?

So you admit you lied about the amount of the debt. Why did you lie?

Uh...It wasn't my post genius. That said, I would say that Redfish didn't actually lie because it is a 100% guarantee that our debt will have at least doubled by the end of the Obama administration. I simply pointed out that it has not yet doubled.



Now THAT is a lie! The 'Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002' was passed with 82 Democrat votes in the House and 29 in the Senate. We could not have authorized that war without those Dem votes.

Nor does Obama control how much debt we have.

Of course, I never said the President is solely responsible for the debt did I? Can't be a lie if I didn't say it.

That's 3 lies in one short sprint. You really are a reprehensible piece of human garbage.

Well, no. That's one misstatement from another person that I corrected, one thing I never said, and one lie from you.

Does that now make you a reprehensible piece of human garbage???

Let's go with "Yes it does"!

 

[paulitician]

Walker has done Wisconsin proud. The Communists will go on hating him, but that doesn't matter. If the Communists hate you, you must be doing something right. All Governors should adopt Walker's policies. Period, end of story.

 

[Jarlaxle]

don't forget NYC's infamous posts where he gave obama all the credit for wisconsin's surplus.

it still cracks me up.

Because you people said that Obama owned this economy.

I don't hear anyone retracting that claim.

Are you STONED?

 

[Antares]

don't forget NYC's infamous posts where he gave obama all the credit for wisconsin's surplus.

it still cracks me up.

Because you people said that Obama owned this economy.

I don't hear anyone retracting that claim.

Are you STONED?

Carb is damaged mentally.

 

[eflatminor]

don't forget NYC's infamous posts where he gave obama all the credit for wisconsin's surplus.

it still cracks me up.

Because you people said that Obama owned this economy.

I don't hear anyone retracting that claim.

Are you STONED?

Maybe she's experimenting with TM's favorite drug of choice, vodka and paint chips???

 

[kiwiman127]

Walker has done Wisconsin proud. The Communists will go on hating him, but that doesn't matter. If the Communists hate you, you must be doing something right. All Governors should adopt Walker's policies. Period, end of story.

But not a good as Wisconsin's neighboring state, Minnesota. Democrat Mark Dayton inherited a $6.2 billion deficit at the same time Walker inherited a $3.3 billion deficit, now Minnesota has a $1.1 surplus versus Wisconsin's 912 million. The unemployment rate in Minny is 4.6, Wisconsin 6.2 and Minnesota ranked 15th for new jobs, Wisconsin 37th.
So what say you?

 

[The Rabbi]

Walker has done Wisconsin proud. The Communists will go on hating him, but that doesn't matter. If the Communists hate you, you must be doing something right. All Governors should adopt Walker's policies. Period, end of story.

But not a good as Wisconsin's neighboring state, Minnesota. Democrat Mark Dayton inherited a $6.2 billion deficit at the same time Walker inherited a $3.3 billion deficit, now Minnesota has a $1.1 surplus versus Wisconsin's 912 million. The unemployment rate in Minny is 4.6, Wisconsin 6.2 and Minnesota ranked 15th for new jobs, Wisconsin 37th.
So what say you?

Doubtless the results of policies of his predecessor, Tim Pawlenty.

 

[kiwiman127]

Walker has done Wisconsin proud. The Communists will go on hating him, but that doesn't matter. If the Communists hate you, you must be doing something right. All Governors should adopt Walker's policies. Period, end of story.

But not a good as Wisconsin's neighboring state, Minnesota. Democrat Mark Dayton inherited a $6.2 billion deficit at the same time Walker inherited a $3.3 billion deficit, now Minnesota has a $1.1 surplus versus Wisconsin's 912 million. The unemployment rate in Minny is 4.6, Wisconsin 6.2 and Minnesota ranked 15th for new jobs, Wisconsin 37th.
So what say you?

Doubtless the results of policies of his predecessor, Tim Pawlenty.

The 6.2 billion deficit? You are correct.

 

[The Rabbi]

But not a good as Wisconsin's neighboring state, Minnesota. Democrat Mark Dayton inherited a $6.2 billion deficit at the same time Walker inherited a $3.3 billion deficit, now Minnesota has a $1.1 surplus versus Wisconsin's 912 million. The unemployment rate in Minny is 4.6, Wisconsin 6.2 and Minnesota ranked 15th for new jobs, Wisconsin 37th.
So what say you?

Doubtless the results of policies of his predecessor, Tim Pawlenty.

The 6.2 billion deficit? You are correct.

No, dumbass. The recovery. The deficit was the result of Obama's policies.

 

[NYcarbineer]

don't forget NYC's infamous posts where he gave obama all the credit for wisconsin's surplus.

it still cracks me up.

Because you people said that Obama owned this economy.

I don't hear anyone retracting that claim.

Are you STONED?

Does Obama own this economy or not?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Walker took office in Jan. 2011,

right at the time the Obama 2 year payroll tax cut began. Any of you in the camp that tax cuts caused the recovery owe Obama the credit,

not Walker.

 

[kiwiman127]

Doubtless the results of policies of his predecessor, Tim Pawlenty.

The 6.2 billion deficit? You are correct.

No, dumbass. The recovery. The deficit was the result of Obama's policies.

Let's see, I gave Walker credit for Wisconsin's recovery because unlike you, I'm not a political hack. In the same breath, I give Dayton credit.
But in your extremely biased mind, you give Walker credit for his accomplishment during the same time frame Dayton turned Minnesota around. But you want to credit Dayton's predecessor for Minnesota's recovery because he was a Republican and a moderate one at that! Hilarious!
And you call me a "dumbass"? Got a mirror? You are consistent at being inconsistent!

 

[Jarlaxle]

Because you people said that Obama owned this economy.

I don't hear anyone retracting that claim.

Are you STONED?

Does Obama own this economy or not?

Do you or do you not understand the difference between FEDERAL and STATE government? If not, there is no point in continuing this discussion.

 

[Antares]

Walker took office in Jan. 2011,

right at the time the Obama 2 year payroll tax cut began. Any of you in the camp that tax cuts caused the recovery owe Obama the credit,

not Walker.

Sure, and not ONE Dem voted for the Iraq war.
Be gone before someone drops a house on you.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Are you STONED?

Does Obama own this economy or not?

Do you or do you not understand the difference between FEDERAL and STATE government? If not, there is no point in continuing this discussion.

Go ahead. tell us what part of Wisconsin's economic is not counted as part of the national economy.

Does Obama own this economy or not?