Will Trump Chicken Out?

[kyzr]

...you serious?

Yes, if Iran restarts their nuclear program we bomb the sh!t out of them again.

 

[rightwinger]

Iran was two months away from being able to make 11 bombs before Midnight Hammer.
Now Iran may give up nukes permanently, that's a win.

Trump told us that
He also told us that he had obliterated Irans nuclear capability
He also told us that he would get a better deal than Obama

 

[kyzr]

Trump told us that
He also told us that he had obliterated Iran's nuclear capability

That was true a year ago, but Iran can dig out the enriched uranium unless its removed.

He also told us that he would get a better deal than Obama

Anyone can get a better deal than Obama.
He gave Iran $56,000,000,000 for only a 10 year delay, which they used to enrich uranium.
We need to wait and see what Trump's final deal looks like.

 

[rightwinger]

That was true a year ago, but Iran can dig out the enriched uranium unless its removed.

Anyone can get a better deal than Obama.
He gave Iran $56,000,000,000 for only a 10 year delay, which they used to enrich uranium.
We need to wait and see what Trump's final deal looks like.

Obama got Iran to surrender 95 percent of their enriched uranium without the Strait being closed

They have been able to enrich uranium because Trump cancelled the deal

 

[kyzr]

Obama got Iran to surrender 95 percent of their enriched uranium without the Strait being closed
They have been able to enrich uranium because Trump cancelled the deal

Iran has been able to enrich uranium above 3.67% because they want nuclear weapons, no other reason.
The JCPOA did not prevent anything, it guaranteed that Iran could enrich and develop nukes after the JCPOA expired.

 

[rightwinger]

Iran has been able to enrich uranium above 3.67% because they want nuclear weapons, no other reason.
The JCPOA did not prevent anything, it guaranteed that Iran could enrich and develop nukes after the JCPOA expired.

They have been able to do so because Trump removed all the inspectors and allowed them to do so.

Obama offered the carrot for Iran to abandon its nuclear program. Abandon your nukes and we will open up economic opportunities with the west.

Trump used the stick. Bomb the shit out of them, strangle them economically, threaten the citizens, kill their leaders.
Trump has given them a reason why they need to develop nuclear weapons

 

[kyzr]

They have been able to do so because Trump removed all the inspectors and allowed them to do so.

Iran would be developing nukes with or without Trump's withdrawal. Nothing would stop them except Trump.

Obama offered the carrot for Iran to abandon its nuclear program. Abandon your nukes and we will open up economic opportunities with the west.

LOL. I hear the tourism industry is booming in Iran, especially to see the public hangings and how to shoot protesters in the head.

Trump used the stick. Bomb the shit out of them, strangle them economically, threaten the citizens, kill their leaders.
Trump has given them a reason why they need to develop nuclear weapons

What part of "IRAN ALWAYS WANTED NUCLEAR WEAPONS" (since 2003) don't you understand?
Do you know how many tunnels and weapons programs Iran has?
Nuclear weapons aside, Iran spent most of its oil revenue on advanced weapons systems, this did NOT start in 2018

A summary by Copilot shows:​

1. Iran ​

U.S. intelligence, the IAEA, and Israeli‑seized nuclear archives all confirm that Iran ran a structured weapons program (“AMAD Plan”) until 2003.After 2003, Iran continued research, but not weaponization work.
This supports the idea that Iran wanted the option of nuclear weapons.

2. Iran accepted the JCPOA in 2015 because sanctions were crushing its economy​

Iran regained access to:

• $50–56 billion in frozen assets
• International banking
• Oil exports
• Foreign investment

This part of your interpretation is correct:Iran needed economic relief badly.

3. During JCPOA (2015–2018), Iran expanded non‑nuclear military programs​

This is also true. Iran accelerated:

• Ballistic missile development
• Drone programs
• Underground tunnel networks
• Proxy arming (Hezbollah, Houthis, Iraqi militias)

These programs were not restricted by the JCPOA.
So yes — Iran used the JCPOA period to strengthen its conventional and asymmetric military power.

​

“Iran took the JCPOA to prepare for the end of the deal and then build nuclear weapons.”​

This is a strategic theory, not an established fact.

• Iran kept all nuclear knowledge and infrastructure intact.
• Iran built massive underground facilities (Natanz, Fordow expansions).
• Iran accelerated missile development — essential for nuclear delivery.
• Iran resumed high‑level enrichment almost immediately after 2018.
• Iranian officials often speak of “strategic patience” and long‑term planning.

This suggests Iran may have viewed JCPOA as a temporary pause, not a permanent renunciation.

 

[rightwinger]

Iran would be developing nukes with or without Trump's withdrawal. Nothing would stop them except Trump

Iran stopped developing nukes until Trump let them do it

 

[rightwinger]

LOL. I hear the tourism industry is booming in Iran, especially to see the public hangings and how to shoot protesters in the head.

Obama moderated relations with Iran and offered improved trade with the west in return for abandoning their nuclear program
Trump killed the ayatollah but left in place everything you complain about

 

[Zincwarrior]

It's pretty much over.

Hurricanes pass too. Are we winning yet?

 

[dblack]

Hurricanes pass too. Are we winning yet?

SO much winning!

 

[kyzr]

Iran stopped developing nukes until Trump let them do it

Bullsh!t.​

1. Iran ​

U.S. intelligence, the IAEA, and Israeli‑seized nuclear archives all confirm that Iran ran a structured weapons program (“AMAD Plan”) until 2003.After 2003, Iran continued research, but not weaponization work.
This supports the idea that Iran wanted the option of nuclear weapons.

2. Iran accepted the JCPOA in 2015 because sanctions were crushing its economy​

Iran regained access to:

• $50–56 billion in frozen assets
• International banking
• Oil exports
• Foreign investment

This part of your interpretation is correct:Iran needed economic relief badly.

3. During JCPOA (2015–2018), Iran expanded non‑nuclear military programs​

This is also true. Iran accelerated:

• Ballistic missile development
• Drone programs
• Underground tunnel networks
• Proxy arming (Hezbollah, Houthis, Iraqi militias)

These programs were not restricted by the JCPOA.
So yes — Iran used the JCPOA period to strengthen its conventional and asymmetric military power.

​

4. “Iran took the JCPOA to prepare for the end of the deal and then build nuclear weapons.”​

This is a strategic theory, not an established fact.

• Iran kept all nuclear knowledge and infrastructure intact.
• Iran built massive underground facilities (Natanz, Fordow expansions).
• Iran accelerated missile development — essential for nuclear delivery.
• Iran resumed high‑level enrichment almost immediately after 2018.
• Iranian officials often speak of “strategic patience” and long‑term planning.

This suggests Iran may have viewed JCPOA as a temporary pause, not a permanent renunciation.

Obama moderated relations with Iran and offered improved trade with the west in return for abandoning their nuclear program
Trump killed the ayatollah but left in place everything you complain about

Trump put a crimp in their nuclear weapons program, and the US blockade put a crimp in their oil revenue.
Obama never got Iran to "abandon" its nuclear weapons program, Obama gave Iran $56,000,000,000 for the JCPOA to delay its nuclear weapons program, while it used the time to develop tunnel systems and non-nuclear weapons.

 

[rightwinger]

Bullsh!t.​

1. Iran ​

U.S. intelligence, the IAEA, and Israeli‑seized nuclear archives all confirm that Iran ran a structured weapons program (“AMAD Plan”) until 2003.After 2003, Iran continued research, but not weaponization work.
This supports the idea that Iran wanted the option of nuclear weapons.

2. Iran accepted the JCPOA in 2015 because sanctions were crushing its economy​

Iran regained access to:

• $50–56 billion in frozen assets
• International banking
• Oil exports
• Foreign investment

This part of your interpretation is correct:Iran needed economic relief badly.

3. During JCPOA (2015–2018), Iran expanded non‑nuclear military programs​

This is also true. Iran accelerated:

• Ballistic missile development
• Drone programs
• Underground tunnel networks
• Proxy arming (Hezbollah, Houthis, Iraqi militias)

These programs were not restricted by the JCPOA.
So yes — Iran used the JCPOA period to strengthen its conventional and asymmetric military power.

​

4. “Iran took the JCPOA to prepare for the end of the deal and then build nuclear weapons.”​

This is a strategic theory, not an established fact.

• Iran kept all nuclear knowledge and infrastructure intact.
• Iran built massive underground facilities (Natanz, Fordow expansions).
• Iran accelerated missile development — essential for nuclear delivery.
• Iran resumed high‑level enrichment almost immediately after 2018.
• Iranian officials often speak of “strategic patience” and long‑term planning.

This suggests Iran may have viewed JCPOA as a temporary pause, not a permanent renunciation.

Trump put a crimp in their nuclear weapons program, and the US blockade put a crimp in their oil revenue.
Obama never got Iran to "abandon" its nuclear weapons program, Obama gave Iran $56,000,000,000 for the JCPOA to delay its nuclear weapons program, while it used the time to develop tunnel systems and non-nuclear weapons.

That doesn’t show Iran developing nukes during the deal
They were in compliance

During JCPOA (2015–2018), Iran expanded non‑nuclear military programs​

 

[JLW]

That was true a year ago, but Iran can dig out the enriched uranium unless its removed.

Anyone can get a better deal than Obama.
He gave Iran $56,000,000,000 for only a 10 year delay, which they used to enrich uranium.
We need to wait and see what Trump's final deal looks like.

Trump’s War of choice in Iran has cost the US in military spending alone $27,000,000,000.00 and cost the US consumer $100,000, 000,000.00 as of now. This does not include the trillion or so to the world economy. Obama’s Iranian strategy in hindsight was brilliant next to the idiocy of Donald Trump.

 

[kyzr]

Trump’s War of choice in Iran has cost the US in military spending alone $27,000,000,000.00 and cost the US consumer $100,000, 000,000.00 as of now.

Link please.

This does not include the trillion or so to the world economy. Obama’s Iranian strategy in hindsight was brilliant next to the idiocy of Donald Trump.

Obama gave Iran $56,000,000,000 to develop advanced weapons of choice and dig tunnels for what they knew was coming. Iran is a terrorist state. Giving them $56b and 10 years helped their nuclear ambitions. Read my Post #72 again please.

 

[August West]

You're so full of it. Khrag is dangerous and they should be wiped out. The ones in charge of their regime anyways.

Travel halfway around the world to blow up people who we`re afraid of and call it "self defense." How un-Christlike can you get? Iraq was supposed to have massive stockpiles of WMDs and in reality, they didn`t have shit. Why shouldn`t we pay reparations to our victims?

 

[JLW]

Link please.

Obama gave Iran $56,000,000,000 to develop advanced weapons of choice and dig tunnels for what they knew was coming. Iran is a terrorist state. Giving them $56b and 10 years helped their nuclear ambitions. Read my Post #72 again please.

Study Says Iran War Has Cost U.S. Households $100 Billion

A new study reveals the staggering cost of Donald Trump’s war in Iran on U.S. households. Trump started the war in February without congressional approval. Since then, energy prices have spiked, and the war has no end in sight. According to Moody’s Analytics, the war has cost U.S. households...

finance.yahoo.com

 

[kyzr]

Link to the DailyBeast

If you multiply the 135m US households by the $760/yr you get $100b, but that means nothing unless you look at each family. Start with the $760/yr, that translates to $63/month.
Not a big deal for most US families. Using the low number of $570/yr, that translates to $47.50/month. Not a big deal, especially when compared to Biden's inflation, see below...

State Inflation Data: Families’ Costs Rose $700 More Under Biden Than Over the Same Period Under Trump - State Inflation Data: Families’ Costs Rose $700 More Under Biden Than Over the Same Period Under Trump - U.S. Congress Joint Economic Committee

www.jec.senate.gov

State Inflation Data: Families’ Costs Rose $700 More Under Biden Than Over the Same Period Under Trump​

 

[eagle1462010]

Yes, if Iran restarts their nuclear program we bomb the sh!t out of them again.

As long as Trumps there.

Dems just hand them other peoples money or Launder it.

 

[eagle1462010]

Bullsh!t.​

1. Iran ​

U.S. intelligence, the IAEA, and Israeli‑seized nuclear archives all confirm that Iran ran a structured weapons program (“AMAD Plan”) until 2003.After 2003, Iran continued research, but not weaponization work.
This supports the idea that Iran wanted the option of nuclear weapons.

2. Iran accepted the JCPOA in 2015 because sanctions were crushing its economy​

Iran regained access to:

• $50–56 billion in frozen assets
• International banking
• Oil exports
• Foreign investment

This part of your interpretation is correct:Iran needed economic relief badly.

3. During JCPOA (2015–2018), Iran expanded non‑nuclear military programs​

This is also true. Iran accelerated:

• Ballistic missile development
• Drone programs
• Underground tunnel networks
• Proxy arming (Hezbollah, Houthis, Iraqi militias)

These programs were not restricted by the JCPOA.
So yes — Iran used the JCPOA period to strengthen its conventional and asymmetric military power.

​

4. “Iran took the JCPOA to prepare for the end of the deal and then build nuclear weapons.”​

This is a strategic theory, not an established fact.

• Iran kept all nuclear knowledge and infrastructure intact.
• Iran built massive underground facilities (Natanz, Fordow expansions).
• Iran accelerated missile development — essential for nuclear delivery.
• Iran resumed high‑level enrichment almost immediately after 2018.
• Iranian officials often speak of “strategic patience” and long‑term planning.

This suggests Iran may have viewed JCPOA as a temporary pause, not a permanent renunciation.

Trump put a crimp in their nuclear weapons program, and the US blockade put a crimp in their oil revenue.
Obama never got Iran to "abandon" its nuclear weapons program, Obama gave Iran $56,000,000,000 for the JCPOA to delay its nuclear weapons program, while it used the time to develop tunnel systems and non-nuclear weapons.

The U.S. Department of Defense estimates that approximately $7.1 billion in U.S.-funded defense equipment remained in Afghanistan following the 2021 withdrawal. This arsenal, largely consisting of gear provided to the former Afghan National Defense and Security Forces (ANDSF), includes: [1, 2, 3, 4]

• Aircraft: Over $923 million worth, including nearly 80 aircraft left at Hamid Karzai International Airport in Kabul. Most were demilitarized and rendered inoperable before departure.
• Vehicles: $4.13 billion in military vehicles, including over 40,000 trucks and 12,000 Humvees.
• Weapons and Munitions: Roughly 350,000 rifles, over 180,000 air-to-ground missiles, and extensive communications

Bin Biden left all that for the Talban.

The DEMS ARE A FCKING JOKE