Zone1 Will this War Prepare the Way for the Rebuilding of the Temple?

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that's you and the jews and - their temple is really not theirs as they, islam broke into the not really abandoned by judaism land as taken from them by the yet to be holy roman empire - christian boy's future daddy ... what about them christian boy, you gonna show them.

you desert trash can have aqsa all three of you, peas in a pod, enjoy yourselves.

I'm still trying to figure out what your religion is and what your religion has done that makes you think you are better than everyone else.

Did you attend Hobelim University?

 

[JohnDB]

I have read the Koran in three English translations. Jerusalem is never mentioned in the Koran.

You seem to be conflating two holy sites. There is the Temple of Jerusalem, where the Dome of the Rock is, and there is the burial site of Jesus.

Christians worshiped at the burial site of Jesus until Emperor Hadrian built a temple to Venus there. Constantine's mother had the temple to Venus torn down, and The Church of the Holy Sepulcher was built there instead. The Church f the Holy Sepulcher is still there. Years ago, I read an article in the Biblical Archaeology Review that said that the Church of the Holy Sepulcher probably is the burial site of Jesus.

Protestant Fundamentalists think the Garden Tomb is the burial site of Jesus. The article said that Biblical archaeologists think it is an older burial site.

The history you are relating is not in line with what I'm remembering learning years ago.

Wildly divergent.
Where yes, Constantine was not exactly the guy the Catholics make him out to be he is not the evil guy the 7th Day Adventist make him out to be either....nor was He or his family who the Muslims make him out to be either.

Which is a massive problem. Everyone tells the story differently with a goal of achieving desired modern results. The truth is no longer relevant and instead only individual opinions matter any longer. And THAT is the problem in Israel. Why the riots at the Tomb of the Holy Sepulcher happen, why the Muslims and Jews fight, why the Christians fight the Muslims and Jews. (And if the Palestinians hadn't run off the Christians they might actually have a REAL friend in their current fight....but they are bloodthirsty savages at this point.)

The Palestinians are NOT a solution to the Dome of the Rock issue. What? You think that they, after 80 years of being insurgents in the WHOLE Middle East they are going to suddenly become peaceful, industrious, and create economic opportunities for everyone?
Yeah....that's never going to happen.

If the Jews gain it....it will be like any of their other lands. The Christians won't fight the Jews....they much prefer infighting...just like the Jews.

BTW....
Mary, the Mother of Jesus, was Jewish, not Muslim.She was born in Herodian Judea, not Palestine.She raised Her Son in Galilee, not Jund al-Urdunn.She spoke Galilean Aramaic and Hebrew, not Arabic.During the Crucifixion, she was in Jerusalem, not Al-Quds

 

[BULLDOG]

I'm still trying to figure out what your religion is and what your religion has done that makes you think you are better than everyone else.

Did you attend Hobelim University?

Every religion thinks they are better than everyone else.

 

[Ace Nova]

that's you and the jews and - their temple is really not theirs as they, islam broke into the not really abandoned by judaism land as taken from them by the yet to be holy roman empire - christian boy's future daddy ... what about them christian boy, you gonna show them.

you desert trash can have aqsa all three of you, peas in a pod, enjoy yourselves.

Show who, what?

The Temple Mount in Jerusalem is one of the few places on Earth that both Jews and Muslims respect each other. practice their faiths in harmony and both consider the area "Holy Ground" - meaning it is an "untouchable" area - even when it comes to war. The Catholic Church and other Christian sects also consider the site as being "Holy Ground".

So not sure how a Christian is supposed to do anything about it and to who? All three faiths consider it Holy Ground and untouchable.

 

[JohnDB]

Show who, what?

The Temple Mount in Jerusalem is one of the few places on Earth that both Jews and Muslims respect each other. practice their faiths in harmony and both consider the area "Holy Ground" - meaning it is an "untouchable" area - even when it comes to war. The Catholic Church and other Christian sects also consider the site as being "Holy Ground".

So not sure how a Christian is supposed to do anything about it and to who? All three faiths consider it Holy Ground and untouchable.

This is not true.
Christians revere it but it's not "holy" as in touching it will kill you. Muslims don't as well. Only Jews are fearful about touching the mount. (With good reasons)

When deciding WHO ultimately is holding and controlling the Temple Mount one has to consider the entire result.

The "Palestinians" have been and the results have been disastrous to say the least about it. Most of the Muslim world never visits the place.
The Christians would have nonstop internal infighting worse than they do about the Tomb of the Holy Sepulcher. It would be open to the public between the bouts of fighting.

The Jews would also have infighting but also nonstop barbecues of sacrificial animals and grain.

There is only ONE place of worship for them.
However.....

If the Jews were to rebuild the Temple the Entire Muslim world would be in chaos. Because both Muslims and Jews alike share in the belief that a prophet must be 100% accurate or else is a false prophet. And if the Temple is rebuilt....Mohammed was a false prophet and the Koran is toilet paper.

 

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That they claimed it after Judaism had claimed it 2,000 years earlier, yes.

But I'm repeatedly told the Torah is nothing but fairy tales.

 

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Every religion thinks they are better than everyone else.

And that is especially true for the religion of militant atheism.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

But I'm repeatedly told the Torah is nothing but fairy tales.

Who told you?

 

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Who told you?

Militant atheists.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Militant atheists.

I’m none the wiser.

 

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I’m none the wiser.

Were you expecting a roll call?

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Were you expecting a roll call?

Not really.

 

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Not really.

Great, then militant atheists should make you the wiser on who makes the claim that Genesis is a fairy tale which would include the section on God carving out the lands for Israel.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Great, then militant atheists should make you the wiser on who makes the claim that Genesis is a fairy tale which would include the section on God carving out the lands for Israel.

You think so?

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Actually, it was called The Land of Canaan.

 

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Actually, it was called The Land of Canaan.

Yes, according to the Torah - or according to militant atheists the book of fairytales - God gave the land of Canaan to the Israelites or as I said Israel.

 

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You think so?

Yes, because it's my answer to the question you asked.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Yes, because it's my answer to the question you asked.

Your usual metaphysics.

 

[BreezeWood]

The Temple Mount in Jerusalem is one of the few places on Earth that both Jews and Muslims respect each other. practice their faiths in harmony and both consider the area "Holy Ground"

In fact, Al Aqsa was a largely abandoned, weed choked vacant lot until Muslims thought The Jews were interested in it.

if you say so ace - it's a love fest for all three religions and why not they all three have the same preamble ...

- isn't aqsa the temple mount the to be holy roman empire burnt to the ground after the jews crucified jesus ... as predicted and the heavenly retribution so exacted - and the christians now lavish with the jews for its return. funny that.

 

[BreezeWood]

Every religion thinks they are better than everyone else.

do you reside in the desert ...