Will the USA go to war with NATO nations?

[Independent thinker]

Then why is Trump threatening all of those things? Are they empty threats, that will make him look weak if he does not carry out the consequences he threatens?

I don't give a damn what comes out of Trump's mouth. I ignore it and judge him by how the country is actually running, and not by how dems or their bought and paid for legacy media tell us how the country is running.

 

[DennisPTate]

Will the USA go to war with NATO nations?
Trump threatens to use the military to take Greenland.
Many NATO nations are sending troops to Greenland.
Will we use our military against Iran to support the protesters. Will we put troops on the ground?
Will we be forced to send troops to Venzuela to enforce our control of the country?
What about Russia and the Ukraine.
What about an economy that is no better in 2025 than it was in 2024? In fact in some ways worse. Unemployment is up. Manufacturing jobs were lost in 2025.

European allies dispatch military reinforcements to Greenland

A White House meeting produced plans for a U.S.-Denmark working group, but no change to Trump's designs on the island.

www.defenseone.com

Canada's Prime Minister and several other world leaders on the surface seem to be encouraging Iran and all of Iran's proxy terrorist organizations to feel encouraged that perhaps Iran and Iran's financed groups might just be able to finish what Adolf Hitler began back in the 1930's?

In my opinion Canada's Prime Minister and the other world leaders who on the surface seem to be on the side of Iran....... and against keeping Israel with borders that can be defended...... are taking quite a risk to be so obviously against the goals that the USA President Trump administration has for the Middle East?

Thread 'P. M. Mark Carney vs Prime Minister Stephen Harper on Canada - Israel relations?'

Nov 20, 2025

Who do you think approached the Israeli - Palestinian crisis with the greatest level of wisdom and understanding of the Big Picture?

I personally feel that Prime Minister Stephen Harper did a vastly better job at the G-8 meetings in 2011 than Prime Minister Mark Carney is doing now.

I believe that Prime Minister Mark Carney very likely felt "forced or pressured" into his approach to the Israeli - Palestinian conflict by young, idealistic, angry, but terribly biased Atheists and Agnostics in Canada's Liberal Party who have an approach to life much like the twenty young Atheists who...

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[ElmerMudd]

Canada's Prime Minister and several other world leaders on the surface seem to be encouraging Iran and all of Iran's proxy terrorist organizations to feel encouraged that perhaps Iran and Iran's financed groups might just be able to finish what Adolf Hitler began back in the 1930's?

In my opinion Canada's Prime Minister and the other world leaders who on the surface seem to be on the side of Iran....... and against keeping Israel with borders that can be defended...... are taking quite a risk to be so obviously against the goals that the USA President Trump administration has for the Middle East?

Thread 'P. M. Mark Carney vs Prime Minister Stephen Harper on Canada - Israel relations?'

Nov 20, 2025

Who do you think approached the Israeli - Palestinian crisis with the greatest level of wisdom and understanding of the Big Picture?

I personally feel that Prime Minister Stephen Harper did a vastly better job at the G-8 meetings in 2011 than Prime Minister Mark Carney is doing now.

I believe that Prime Minister Mark Carney very likely felt "forced or pressured" into his approach to the Israeli - Palestinian conflict by young, idealistic, angry, but terribly biased Atheists and Agnostics in Canada's Liberal Party who have an approach to life much like the twenty young Atheists who...

• DennisPTate
• Replies: 7
• Forum: Canada

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There is not a chance in hell what you say is true.

 

[ElmerMudd]

I don't give a damn what comes out of Trump's mouth. I ignore it and judge him by how the country is actually running, and not by how dems or their bought and paid for legacy media tell us how the country is running.

How can other nations believe anything he says if he does not carry through with wgat he says.
He has a TACO reputation.

 

[Independent thinker]

How can other nations believe anything he says if he does not carry through with wgat he says.
He has a TACO reputation.

As I said, I only judge Trump by how the country is running and the country is running great. And, we are making the world safer by peace through strength and I don't give a damn if that hurts other leader's feelings. And, your thread is ridiculous. We aren't going to war against NATO countries and they aren't going to war against us. Your thread is totally stupid.

But, the bottom line is, in the end, Greenland and it's resources will be more available to the US and it will be used more to limit Russia's expansion, which is a win for the entire world. So, by NATO sending a bunch of troops to Greenland to protect it from Trump, what Trump is really doing is forcing NATO to protect Greenland from Russia.

 

[ElmerMudd]

As I said, I only judge Trump by how the country is running and the country is running great. And, we are making the world safer by peace through strength and I don't give a damn if that hurts other leader's feelings.

The economy has not changed since he took office. The results of Venzuela, Greenland and Iran remains to be determined. We could end up with another Iraq or Afghanistan. The nation has never been more divided.
Unemployment is up.
He has stopped illegals coming into the USA.

 

[Crepitus]

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Nice hat, kid.

 

[DennisPTate]

There is not a chance in hell what you say is true.

But what I am talking about is appearances that are perceived by a percentage of the leaders in Iran, and in Hamas and in Hezbollah?

Statement by Prime Minister Carney on Canada’s recognition of the State of Palestine​

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September 21, 2025
Ottawa, Ontario


“Since 1947, it has been the policy of every Canadian government to support a two-state solution for lasting peace in the Middle East. This envisioned the creation of a sovereign, democratic, and viable State of Palestine building its future in peace and security alongside the State of Israel.

Over many decades, Canada’s commitment to this goal was premised on the expectation that this outcome would be eventually achieved as part of a negotiated settlement. Regrettably, this possibility has been steadily and gravely eroded, including by:

• The pervasive threat of Hamas terrorism to Israel and its people, culminating in the heinous terrorist attack of October 7, 2023, and Hamas’ longstanding violent rejection of Israel’s right to exist and a two-state solution.
• The accelerated settlement building across the West Bank and East Jerusalem, while settler violence against Palestinians has soared.
• Actions such as the E1 Settlement Plan and this year’s vote by the Knesset calling for the annexation of the West Bank.
• The Israeli government’s contribution to the humanitarian disaster in Gaza, including by impeding access to food and other essential humanitarian supplies.

Hamas has terrorized the people of Israel and oppressed the people of Gaza, wreaking horrific suffering. It is imperative that Hamas release all hostages, fully disarm, and play no role in the future governance of Palestine. Hamas has stolen from the Palestinian people, cheated them of their life and liberty, and can in no way dictate their future.

The current Israeli government is working methodically to prevent the prospect of a Palestinian state from ever being established. It has pursued an unrelenting policy of settlement expansion in the West Bank, which is illegal under international law. Its sustained assault in Gaza has killed tens of thousands of civilians, displaced well over one million people, and caused a devastating and preventable famine in violation of international law. It is now the avowed policy of the current Israeli government that ‘there will be no Palestinian state’.

It is in this context that Canada recognises the State of Palestine and offers our partnership in building the promise of a peaceful future for both the State of Palestine and the State of Israel. Canada does so as part of a co-ordinated international effort to preserve the possibility of a two-state solution. While Canada is under no illusions that this recognition is a panacea, this recognition is firmly aligned with the principles of self-determination and fundamental human rights reflected in the United Nations Charter, and the consistent policy of Canada for generations.

Recognising the State of Palestine, led by the Palestinian Authority, empowers those who seek peaceful coexistence and the end of Hamas. This in no way legitimises terrorism, nor is it any reward for it. Furthermore, it in no way compromises Canada’s steadfast support for the State of Israel, its people, and their security – security that can only ultimately be guaranteed through the achievement of a comprehensive two-state solution.

The Palestinian Authority has provided direct commitments to Canada and the international community on much-needed reforms, including to fundamentally reform its governance, to hold general elections in 2026 in which Hamas can play no part, and to demilitarize the Palestinian state. Canada will intensify efforts to support the Palestinian Authority’s implementation of this reform agenda, on which progress has already been made. With our international partners, Canada supports the development of a credible peace plan, democratic governance and clear security arrangements for Palestine, and the sustained, large-scale delivery of humanitarian aid into and throughout Gaza.”

Statement by Prime Minister Carney on Canada’s recognition of the State of Palestine

Since 1947, it has been the policy of every Canadian government to support a two-state solution for lasting peace in the Middle East.

www.pm.gc.ca

Could Prime Minister Mark Carney of Canada and several other world leaders be supporting a plan that could lead to Israel having borders that cannot be defended against modern missile technology and even drones?

Would President Trump and his team be likely to be pleased with P. M. Mark Carney for such a move?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Do you think it is funny to joke about sexual abuse and rape. Sick but part of the MAGA culture.

I’m just utilizing ridiculous allegations the same way you are

 

[tahuyaman]

Will the USA go to war with NATO nations?
Trump threatens to use the military to take Greenland.
Many NATO nations are sending troops to Greenland….

Of course not.

Lol. France sent 15 personnel. Germany sent 13 and withdrew them just hours later. Norway and Finland each sent 2. None of which are combat soldiers.

 

[tahuyaman]

But what I am talking about is appearances that are perceived by a percentage of the leaders in Iran, and in Hamas and in Hezbollah?






Could Prime Minister Mark Carney of Canada and several other world leaders be supporting a plan that could lead to Israel having borders that cannot be defended against modern missile technology and even drones?

Would President Trump and his team be likely to be pleased with P. M. Mark Carney for such a move?

The prime minister of Canada and others can’t order Israel to have undefended borders. What is wrong with these people?

 

[justoffal]

Of course not.

Lol. France sent 15 personnel. Germany sent 13 and withdrew them just hours later. Norway and Finland each sent 2. None of which are combat soldiers.

Bwahahaha

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The US should tell NATO they're on their own.

Watch them grovel

 

[badbob85037]

Will the USA go to war with NATO nations?
Trump threatens to use the military to take Greenland.
Many NATO nations are sending troops to Greenland.
Will we use our military against Iran to support the protesters. Will we put troops on the ground?
Will we be forced to send troops to Venzuela to enforce our control of the country?
What about Russia and the Ukraine.
What about an economy that is no better in 2025 than it was in 2024? In fact in some ways worse. Unemployment is up. Manufacturing jobs were lost in 2025.

European allies dispatch military reinforcements to Greenland

A White House meeting produced plans for a U.S.-Denmark working group, but no change to Trump's designs on the island.

www.defenseone.com

The only one worth their dirt is Polland and I haven't heard them sniveling, whining, and blubbering about our logical plan.

 

[badbob85037]

Will the USA go to war with NATO nations?
Trump threatens to use the military to take Greenland.
Many NATO nations are sending troops to Greenland.
Will we use our military against Iran to support the protesters. Will we put troops on the ground?
Will we be forced to send troops to Venzuela to enforce our control of the country?
What about Russia and the Ukraine.
What about an economy that is no better in 2025 than it was in 2024? In fact in some ways worse. Unemployment is up. Manufacturing jobs were lost in 2025.

European allies dispatch military reinforcements to Greenland

A White House meeting produced plans for a U.S.-Denmark working group, but no change to Trump's designs on the island.

www.defenseone.com

 

[ElmerMudd]

The only one worth their dirt is Polland and I haven't heard them sniveling, whining, and blubbering about our logical plan.

You are very uninformed on world politics. Stupidity has consequences.
Educate yourself.

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• Strong transatlantic backlash: European leaders have openly warned that U.S. attempts to force control of Greenland could deeply harm relations with NATO allies — even threatening the existence of NATO itself if the U.S. were to attack a territory of an ally.
• European criticism & diplomatic strain: Germany, France, other NATO capitals, and Danish/Greenland leaders have condemned coercive tactics, viewing them as undermining trust and commitments within the alliance.

Impact on U.S. standing:
Damaging NATO — the cornerstone of U.S. security policy since WWII — would weaken Washington’s leadership role in Western defense and could push European states toward strategic autonomy or alternative alliances.

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• Violates fundamental norms: Forcible acquisition of territory from a sovereign state runs counter to the UN Charter’s prohibition on the threat or use of force against territorial integrity.
• Undermines U.S. credibility: Historically, the U.S. has championed sovereignty and self-determination. Ignoring these principles for territorial gain would erode U.S. moral authority and make Washington appear hypocritical.

Impact on U.S. standing:
This would weaken U.S. influence in global institutions, reduce its ability to shape norms on territorial integrity, and embolden revisionist powers (like Russia and China) to push their agendas.

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• Broad global condemnation: Public protests in Denmark and Greenland (“Greenland is not for sale”) reflect strong local opposition.
• Scholars and analysts warn that such actions could harm U.S. soft power — the ability to attract and persuade rather than coerce.

Impact on U.S. standing:
A reputation for imperialism or coercion would weaken America’s ability to form coalitions, mediate conflicts, or promote democratic values worldwide.

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• Trade disruptions: Tariff threats tied to a Greenland dispute have already provoked concerns about a transatlantic trade conflict.
• Investor wariness: Analysts suggest escalating geopolitical tensions over Greenland contribute to market instability, with rising yields and weakened confidence in U.S. assets.

Impact on U.S. standing:
Economic instability and damaged trade relations reduce global confidence in U.S. leadership and the strength of international markets anchored to the U.S. economy.

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• Opportunity for rivals: Undermining alliances could let Russia and China fill diplomatic and strategic spaces previously shaped by U.S. leadership.
• Nations uncomfortable with U.S. unilateralism might seek alternative partnerships or blocs.

Impact on U.S. standing:
A geopolitical landscape with fewer reliable allies and more regional blocs weakens U.S. influence and complicates coordinated responses to global challenges.

 

[ElmerMudd]

In the ash heap of failed countries are those with leaders who over estimate their strength and importance.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Will the USA go to war with NATO nations?
Trump threatens to use the military to take Greenland.
Many NATO nations are sending troops to Greenland.
Will we use our military against Iran to support the protesters. Will we put troops on the ground?
Will we be forced to send troops to Venzuela to enforce our control of the country?
What about Russia and the Ukraine.
What about an economy that is no better in 2025 than it was in 2024? In fact in some ways worse. Unemployment is up. Manufacturing jobs were lost in 2025.

European allies dispatch military reinforcements to Greenland

A White House meeting produced plans for a U.S.-Denmark working group, but no change to Trump's designs on the island.

www.defenseone.com

A war? France did send 15 soldiers to defend Greenland. Sounds more like we can send one seal team and just have a bar room brawl for it.

 

[BluesLegend]

Will the USA go to war with NATO nations?

No dumb ass. God we need to get some Dems around here who are not complete retards.