Will Saddam’s WMDs Fall into the Hands of Al Qaeda?

[Truthmatters]

oh, and this -
Sarin-loaded bomb explodes in Iraq - World news - Mideast/N. Africa - Conflict in Iraq | NBC News

did you read that article of 2004?


it was VERY small and UNCONFIRMED

 

[Truthmatters]

stop lying you fucking tool.

 

[depotoo]

uh, suddenly the line changes from 'no wmd's' to 'they were small'.

Give it up boys, you were fooled, or found out. Depending on who you are.

 

[BlindBoo]

Fucking hilarious.

First the conz claim that the Dems lied about the WMD in Iraq then they use Democrats quotes to prove that they were saying Iraq had them. Fact of the matter is Saddam did aquire Chemical WMD in the 80's. We know this because it was the West who supplied him. However after the first Gulf war he never was able to restart any of the programs. Nearly all of his stockpiles were destroyed. In fact only a small percent of precusor chemicals were never accounted for. All chemical weapons found in Iraq after the blunderous Bush invasion were from the pre-Gulf War era. Some of those old shell may have fallen into their hand but they probably don't know it.

 

[Warrior102]

First the conz claim that the Dems lied about the WMD in Iraq then they use Democrats quotes to prove that they were saying Iraq had them.

Actual quotes that any idiot, you would think, should comprehend.
Are you not an ordinary idiot?

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

 

[Paulie]

Will Saddam’s WMDs Fall into the Hands of Al Qaeda?​

By: Daniel Greenfield
12-9-2012 |

Probably one of the most despicable lies perpetrated by the Democratic Party was the claim that Saddam Hussein had no WMDs. It was a lie of political convenience by a party whose top politicians had asserted the exact opposite until it became more convenient for them to jump on a new bandwagon.

After all that there would be a certain historical irony if Saddam’s WMDs were indeed finally found, but by Islamist terrorists into whose hands they fell after almost a decade of liberal political malfeasance culminating in their irresponsible support for the Sunni side in the Syrian Civil War.

Let’s map what that would look like

1. The Democrats sabotaged the Iraq War by preventing any enforcement action against the Syrian origin of the suicide bombers and terror squads in the early days of the post-war period. Meanwhile Syrian WMDs had been smuggled into Syria.

2. The Democrats took power and then backed an Arab Spring that put Syria into the crosshairs of the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda, exposing the WMDs to those terrorists.

3. Either the terrorists get their hands on the WMDs, in which case the likelihood of them being used on the US or Israel is very high.

4. Alternatively Syria turns them over to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard which ships them to Iran.

But back to the story…

As the regime of Bashar Assad disintegrates, the security of his chemical arsenal is in jeopardy. The No. 2 general in Saddam Hussein’s air force says they were the WMDs we didn’t find in Iraq.

In 2006, former Iraqi general Georges Sada, second in command of the Iraqi Air Force who served under Saddam Hussein before he defected, wrote a comprehensive book, “Saddam’s Secrets.”

It details how the Iraqi Revolutionary Guard moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria in advance of the U.S.-led action to eliminate Hussein’s WMD threat.

As Sada told the New York Sun, two Iraqi Airways Boeings were converted to cargo planes by removing the seats, and special Republican Guard units loaded the planes with chemical weapons materials.

There were 56 flights disguised as a relief effort after a 2002 Syrian dam collapse.





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Will Saddam’s WMDs Fall into the Hands of Al Qaeda?

So maybe we shouldn't be arming and supporting Al-Qaeda in Syria then huh?

 

[Truthmatters]

Fucking hilarious.

First the conz claim that the Dems lied about the WMD in Iraq then they use Democrats quotes to prove that they were saying Iraq had them. Fact of the matter is Saddam did aquire Chemical WMD in the 80's. We know this because it was the West who supplied him. However after the first Gulf war he never was able to restart any of the programs. Nearly all of his stockpiles were destroyed. In fact only a small percent of precusor chemicals were never accounted for. All chemical weapons found in Iraq after the blunderous Bush invasion were from the pre-Gulf War era. Some of those old shell may have fallen into their hand but they probably don't know it.

Its why they have to keep trying to rewrite history and spit on education and try so hard to defund it.

 

[BlindBoo]

And just where did he get those big bad shells?

Oh yeah..Donald Rumsfeld.

Who probably personally blessed them before he used the ones that actually worked against Iran.

The origin of a WMD does not make it any less dangerous.

Again, the statement that no WMDs were found is a false statement.

as well as this -

IRAQI GOVERNMENT
500 tons of uranium shipped from Iraq, Pentagon says

July 07, 2008 | From Brianna Keilar and Larry Shaughnessy CNN

500 tons of uranium shipped from Iraq, Pentagon says - CNN

If you check into this, you'll quickly find that the uranium a) was not weapons grade and b) was well known to the UN and IAEA and was being stored legally by Saddam's government. It was legally in Iraq according to international law.

 

[Warrior102]

If you check into this, you'll quickly find that the uranium a) was not weapons grade and b) was well known to the UN and IAEA and was being stored legally by Saddam's government. It was legally in Iraq according to international law.

So why did Clinton bomb Iraq?

 

[Sallow]

Well, then the WaPo lied and so did the DoD when they testified in Congress about them.


WMDs were found in Iraq post-invasion. Do catch up.

The bottom line is..Iraq was a war crime.

The Bush administration illegally invaded, destroyed and conquered a nation that had not, by OUR OWN LAWS, justified such an act.

It's the continued shame of this country that the right wing doesn't recognize that.

The bottom line is it is untrue that there were no WMDs in Iraq.

And that's total and unmitigated bullshit.

When Bush was describing "WMDs" in his case for the run up to the war..they were implying Nuclear Weapons.

After NONE were found..not even a rudimentary program to develop weapons grade material, the goalposts were moved to the point where a pencil was considered a WMD.


The Invasion, Conquering and Destruction of Iraq was a war crime.

Simple.

 

[Sallow]

If you check into this, you'll quickly find that the uranium a) was not weapons grade and b) was well known to the UN and IAEA and was being stored legally by Saddam's government. It was legally in Iraq according to international law.

So why did Clinton bomb Iraq?

Distract from Monica.

Iraq's been this nation's whipping boy for quite some time.

 

[BlindBoo]

First the conz claim that the Dems lied about the WMD in Iraq then they use Democrats quotes to prove that they were saying Iraq had them.

Actual quotes that any idiot, you would think, should comprehend.
Are you not an ordinary idiot?

Hey fudgepacker(ette). "Probably one of the most despicable lies perpetrated by the Democratic Party was the claim that Saddam Hussein had no WMDs."

Somebody is lying. According to what you posted it's the author of the above quote, Comprehend?

 

[BlindBoo]

If you check into this, you'll quickly find that the uranium a) was not weapons grade and b) was well known to the UN and IAEA and was being stored legally by Saddam's government. It was legally in Iraq according to international law.

So why did Clinton bomb Iraq?

Which time?

 

[Sallow]

If you check into this, you'll quickly find that the uranium a) was not weapons grade and b) was well known to the UN and IAEA and was being stored legally by Saddam's government. It was legally in Iraq according to international law.

So why did Clinton bomb Iraq?

Which time?

Doesn't matter..he was wrong to do it.

It was a move to make nice with the PNAC republicans, who wanted to invade and to distract from a plethora of personal issues that were surfacing and threating his Presidency.

Didn't work, by the way.

 

[Si modo]

First the conz claim that the Dems lied about the WMD in Iraq then they use Democrats quotes to prove that they were saying Iraq had them.

Actual quotes that any idiot, you would think, should comprehend.
Are you not an ordinary idiot?

Hey fudgepacker(ette). "Probably one of the most despicable lies perpetrated by the Democratic Party was the claim that Saddam Hussein had no WMDs."

Somebody is lying. According to what you posted it's the author of the above quote, Comprehend?

WMDs were found in Iraq post invasion.

 

[GHook93]

Will Saddam’s WMDs Fall into the Hands of Al Qaeda?​

By: Daniel Greenfield
12-9-2012 |

Probably one of the most despicable lies perpetrated by the Democratic Party was the claim that Saddam Hussein had no WMDs. It was a lie of political convenience by a party whose top politicians had asserted the exact opposite until it became more convenient for them to jump on a new bandwagon.

After all that there would be a certain historical irony if Saddam’s WMDs were indeed finally found, but by Islamist terrorists into whose hands they fell after almost a decade of liberal political malfeasance culminating in their irresponsible support for the Sunni side in the Syrian Civil War.

Let’s map what that would look like

1. The Democrats sabotaged the Iraq War by preventing any enforcement action against the Syrian origin of the suicide bombers and terror squads in the early days of the post-war period. Meanwhile Syrian WMDs had been smuggled into Syria.

2. The Democrats took power and then backed an Arab Spring that put Syria into the crosshairs of the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda, exposing the WMDs to those terrorists.

3. Either the terrorists get their hands on the WMDs, in which case the likelihood of them being used on the US or Israel is very high.

4. Alternatively Syria turns them over to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard which ships them to Iran.

But back to the story…

As the regime of Bashar Assad disintegrates, the security of his chemical arsenal is in jeopardy. The No. 2 general in Saddam Hussein’s air force says they were the WMDs we didn’t find in Iraq.

In 2006, former Iraqi general Georges Sada, second in command of the Iraqi Air Force who served under Saddam Hussein before he defected, wrote a comprehensive book, “Saddam’s Secrets.”

It details how the Iraqi Revolutionary Guard moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria in advance of the U.S.-led action to eliminate Hussein’s WMD threat.

As Sada told the New York Sun, two Iraqi Airways Boeings were converted to cargo planes by removing the seats, and special Republican Guard units loaded the planes with chemical weapons materials.

There were 56 flights disguised as a relief effort after a 2002 Syrian dam collapse.





[Excerpt]

Read more:
Will Saddam’s WMDs Fall into the Hands of Al Qaeda?

in which case the likelihood of them being used on the US or Israel is very high.


Really? Just how do you suppose these WMDs will be delivered and deployed in the U S?

That probability is rediculous. As far as Israel.. who cares? They made their bed..let em lay in it. It really isn't our problem. They do not think it is important to treat Arabs with dignity. Perhaps they need to be shown a reason they can't bullshit and lie their way around.

Very true it is our probably, I just hope when Israel retaliates by killing millions of useless Arabs, pussies like you don't cry foul. If Syria uses WMDs against Israel, then Israel should nuke Every city in Syria and Lebanon, and expel every Arab from the Israel, Gaza, Judea and Samaria!

 

[Truthmatters]

so you think Obama "should shock and awe" syria?

 

[Truthmatters]

Actual quotes that any idiot, you would think, should comprehend.
Are you not an ordinary idiot?

Hey fudgepacker(ette). "Probably one of the most despicable lies perpetrated by the Democratic Party was the claim that Saddam Hussein had no WMDs."

Somebody is lying. According to what you posted it's the author of the above quote, Comprehend?

WMDs were found in Iraq post invasion.

Did they find all that yellow cake that Rummy said was EVERYWHERE arround tikrit?

 

[BlindBoo]

Actual quotes that any idiot, you would think, should comprehend.
Are you not an ordinary idiot?

Hey fudgepacker(ette). "Probably one of the most despicable lies perpetrated by the Democratic Party was the claim that Saddam Hussein had no WMDs."

Somebody is lying. According to what you posted it's the author of the above quote, Comprehend?

WMDs were found in Iraq post invasion.

As posted previously, what was found did not constitute the WMD programs (you know production facilities, massive stockpiles) the Bush administration tried to legitized the invasion and occupation with.

 

[Si modo]

Hey fudgepacker(ette). "Probably one of the most despicable lies perpetrated by the Democratic Party was the claim that Saddam Hussein had no WMDs."

Somebody is lying. According to what you posted it's the author of the above quote, Comprehend?

WMDs were found in Iraq post invasion.

As posted previously, what was found did not constitute the WMD programs (you know production facilities, massive stockpiles) the Bush administration tried to legitized the invasion and occupation with.

I'd call 500+ 155mm binary shells of sarin significant. And, yes, laboratories were found, as well.

What a stockpile is and isn't would be in the eye of the beholder. One shell is enough to kill thousands in a very nasty manner and any who don't die would wish they had.