Will Republicans end social security?

[jc456]

What if instead of the GW Bush tax cuts to the rich, he put that Clinton Surplus into social security?

what tax cuts to the rich?

 

[healthmyths]

If Republicans win in November, they're coming for your Social Security and Medicare

If the Republicans tell you they have Social Security and Medicare in their sights, believe them.

www.msnbc.com

Before you roll your eyes and say that Republicans wont’ really end those two beloved federal programs, remember how many of us dismissed the GOP when for years they vowed to overturn Roe v. Wade. Many viewed their words as simply red meat for their base. It wasn’t.

We need to admit that GOP leaders mean what they say. They will doggedly work toward their goal of dismantling Social Security and Medicare, especially if they regain control of Congress and the White House.

Hmmm... Dismantling 36% revenue to the Federal government... in 2021 the Federal government About :

• 50 percent of federal revenue comes from individual income taxes,
• 7 percent from corporate income taxes, and another
• 36 percent from payroll taxes that fund social insurance programs (figure 1).
• 7 percent from a mix of sources.

What are the sources of revenue for the federal government?

TOTAL REVENUES The federal government collected revenues of $4.9 trillion in 2022—equal to 19.6 percent of gross domestic product (GDP) (figure 2). Over the past...

www.taxpolicycenter.org

You really think that would happen? But if it did what would that mean to the economy?
The total federal revenue in 2021 of the U.S. government revenue totaled more than $4 trillion.

Comparing U.S. Federal Spending with Revenue

The U.S. deficit hit $2.7 trillion in 2021, the second highest on record. Here's a look at U.S. federal spending compared to revenue last year.

www.visualcapitalist.com

So $1.4 Trillion would be available for spending!!!! Companies will save 6.2% which they spend on SS/Medicare payments.
The general public working would have 6.2% added to their check books. And the gigantic wasteful spending by the government GONE!
Health insurance would be so cheap! Actual federal taxes will increase due to increased spending. What a great IDEA!!

 

[jc456]

Hmmm... Dismantling 36% revenue to the Federal government... in 2021 the Federal government About :

• 50 percent of federal revenue comes from individual income taxes,
• 7 percent from corporate income taxes, and another
• 36 percent from payroll taxes that fund social insurance programs (figure 1).
• 7 percent from a mix of sources.

What are the sources of revenue for the federal government?

TOTAL REVENUES The federal government collected revenues of $4.9 trillion in 2022—equal to 19.6 percent of gross domestic product (GDP) (figure 2). Over the past...

www.taxpolicycenter.org

You really think that would happen? But if it did what would that mean to the economy?
The total federal revenue in 2021 of the U.S. government revenue totaled more than $4 trillion.

Comparing U.S. Federal Spending with Revenue

The U.S. deficit hit $2.7 trillion in 2021, the second highest on record. Here's a look at U.S. federal spending compared to revenue last year.

www.visualcapitalist.com

So $1.4 Trillion would be available for spending!!!! Companies will save 6.2% which they spend on SS/Medicare payments.
The general public working would have 6.2% added to their check books. And the gigantic wasteful spending by the government GONE!
Health insurance would be so cheap! Actual federal taxes will increase due to increased spending. What a great IDEA!!

yep. Demofks are so stupid.

 

[miketx]

At least you admit it. The majority of you lie or sugar coat your real goal. Just like you all did all these years with abortion. Now you are telling us you believe abortion is murder and you want to outlaw it?

Heck, I don't even think you guys are fully admitting that yet. Are you? RIght now, "it's a states rights issue". But you are lying. If you get control of the House, Senate and White House, you'll outlaw it.

And you'll end social security. A very popular program most Americans rely on. You'll give us all some tough love.

Then the next month you'll give billionaires more tax breaks.

What a lying scumbag.

 

[jc456]

What a lying scumbag.

he does that as well. It's all demofks do, they just say you lied to coax one down a rat hole. and play peewee herman with you.

I know you are, but what am I. wash, rinse, repeat.

 

[Unkotare]

Wow!!! You have a far left media site Opinion piece, well then it must be true! lol!

MSNBC - Bias and Credibility

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mediabiasfactcheck.com

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You believe opinions on far left websites? How about Breitbart, do you believe what they say or do you only seek out those that agree with you? lol!

Give me a break, you can't be this dumb.

democrats view hypocrisy as a virtue when they exercise it.

 

[jc456]

democrats view hypocrisy as a virtue when they exercise it.

That’s hourly

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Enemy democrats say this every presidential election. Remember Al Gore's lock box?

 

[Papageorgio]

Killing or murdering? I'll give you she's killing the seed but it's not murder.

No it's not a ponzi scheme. Think of all the people who pay in and die before they collect one dime. They pay for the people who live to be 100. It's a great program. We need to strengthen it not cut it. We came up with the money to fight Iraq and Afganistan. What if we just put that money into the social security trust fund?


What if politicians didn't borrow from the fund?

What if instead of the GW Bush tax cuts to the rich, he put that Clinton Surplus into social security?

Clinton and the Republican Congress had a budget surplus however even in the best of times the debt grew under Clinton and the Republican Congress.

The best scenario for our country is a Democratic President and a Republican Congress. There is better fiscal responsibility.

 

[initforme]

Truth is those two programs cost very little.

 

[22lcidw]

As Scott, chair of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, writes in his “11-Point Plan to Rescue America,” “If a law is worth keeping, Congress can pass it again.” That means if our notoriously gridlocked Congress couldn’t agree on the terms of what Social Security and Medicare should look like every five years, those programs would end.

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For decades, Republicans have been saying they are coming for these programs, two of the Democratic Party’s proudest achievements.

In fact, many Republicans actively campaigned against Medicare. George H.W. Bush, who was running for U.S. Senate in 1964, called Medicare “socialized medicine.” A few years before that, Ronald Reagan had claimed that Medicare would lead to Americans “telling our children and our children’s children what it once was like in America when men were free.”

In the recent political era, however, the GOP hasn’t just spoken negatively about the programs, but used their power to try to undermine them. In 1994, when Republicans, led by Rep. Newt Gingrich of Georgia, took control of the House for the first time in 40 years, one of their top priorities was gutting Medicare. And the next year, with Republicans in control of the House and the Senate, they voted to cut $270 billion in Medicare funding to finance a tax cut that would primarily benefit upper income taxpayers. Experts said the budget cut would push 500,000 seniors into poverty, and President Bill Clinton, who vetoed the measure, accused the Republicans of trying to “eviscerate the health system for our older Americans."

After Donald Trump was elected president in 2016, then-Speaker of the House GOP Rep. Paul Ryan re-upped his plan to change Medicare into something unrecognizable. Instead of Medicare guaranteeing coverage to those over 65 years of age, Ryan wanted to create in essence a “voucher” program where Americans would have subsidies to buy private health insurance. The result would have been the shrinking of Medicare and seniors covering more of their medical bills. In response, the head of AARP slammed Ryan’s proposal as “a clear downgrade of the Medicare benefits people have earned throughout their working lives,” adding that “seniors will be asked to bear more risk at greater personal cost.”

During his 2016 campaign, Trump promised not to cut Medicare, but the 2020 budget he proposed called for an approximately $800 billion dollar cut over 10 years. That didn’t happen because Democrats controlled the House, but Trump’s budget was another example of the GOP signaling to the country that, if given the chance, they will gut or even end guaranteed health care for more than 60 million seniors.

in 2005, President George W. Bush attempted to essentially privatize Social Security, claiming that it was in a “crisis” and that it needed significant reforms to avoid “bankruptcy.” Despite Republicans in Congress being on board, the public overwhelmingly rejected Bush’s proposal. As Talking Points Memo founder Josh Marshall has said, Bush’s plan “was taking something that was working and making it something that was very risky, inherently risky and could have very negative consequences for individual people.”

The GOP’s efforts to end Social Security and Medicare

You do know there are Progs including Obama who are not advocates of the system. People were used to pay for it all their lives and most of the money has been put into the general fund for all our social programs. What was put into the social security fund were IOU's. When it was fixed back in the 1980's with a massive increase in taxes and increased age before collecting it was guaranteed to last into the 2070's before having any problems. The CBO I believe predicated that on 4% annual growth which we have not come near.

 

[Uncensored2008]

If Republicans win in November, they're coming for your Social Security and Medicare

If the Republicans tell you they have Social Security and Medicare in their sights, believe them.

www.msnbc.com

Before you roll your eyes and say that Republicans wont’ really end those two beloved federal programs, remember how many of us dismissed the GOP when for years they vowed to overturn Roe v. Wade. Many viewed their words as simply red meat for their base. It wasn’t.

We need to admit that GOP leaders mean what they say. They will doggedly work toward their goal of dismantling Social Security and Medicare, especially if they regain control of Congress and the White House.

You're melting down.

You know you're going to get creamed in the midterms so you spewing every lie you think might frighten voters into supporting your filthy Reich. This in itself shows that you have no confidence in the ability of the Reich to rig the election this cycle.

Notice that you don't engage in in these sorts of absurd scare tactics in 2020 - you knew election fraud would carry the day. But now you know that election integrity laws in 17 states make that type of fraud no longer possible.

So you wildly fling shit in hopes of creating fear, uncertainty, and doubt.

Here is reality. You lose both houses of congress in November. Joe Biden gets impeached before summer 2023. But won't be removed. He announces that he won't run in 2024 and possibly resigns (I actually had expected him to resign by now)

 

[Uncensored2008]

Truth is those two programs cost very little.

Yeah, I mean Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid combined exceed all other federal expenditures combined.

Very little.....

Current U.S. Federal Government Spending

U.S. federal government spending for FY 2021 is $4.829 trillion. The most expensive programs are Social Security, Defense, and Medicare. How are you affected?

www.thebalancemoney.com

 

[jc456]

You do know there are Progs including Obama who are not advocates of the system. People were used to pay for it all their lives and most of the money has been put into the general fund for all our social programs. What was put into the social security fund were IOU's. When it was fixed back in the 1980's with a massive increase in taxes and increased age before collecting it was guaranteed to last into the 2070's before having any problems. The CBO I believe predicated that on 4% annual growth which we have not come near.

Bernie madoff

 

[sealybobo]

why not privatize it and they can't.

Too risky. People would cash them out and do drugs? LOL

SS is a great program that is very popular. You trust Republicans and Healthcare companies too much dummy.

 

[jc456]

Too risky. People would cash them out and do drugs? LOL

SS is a great program that is very popular. You trust Republicans and Healthcare companies too much dummy.

cash them out like the politicians are doing? hahahahahaahahah you didn't write that with a straight face did you?

 

[jc456]

Truth is those two programs cost very little.

how much do they cost?

Like the Martha Vineyard snotty residence virtue signaled support for Venezuelans?

Don't virtue signal me you fkwad.

 

[sealybobo]

cash them out like the politicians are doing? hahahahahaahahah you didn't write that with a straight face did you?

Look at the raise you got this year. Did you increase your 401K or are you now just spending the extra money you are pulling in?

How about the Trump tax break. Did you save more those 4 years? Bullshit.

 

[sealybobo]

Clinton and the Republican Congress had a budget surplus however even in the best of times the debt grew under Clinton and the Republican Congress.

The best scenario for our country is a Democratic President and a Republican Congress. There is better fiscal responsibility.

Democratic White House and Senate is best with a Republican House.

 

[jc456]

Look at the raise you got this year. Did you increase your 401K or are you now just spending the extra money you are pulling in?

How about the Trump tax break. Did you save more those 4 years? Bullshit.

don't project your shit my way!!! Go take care of the Venezuelan's in the cages at MV.