Will Lebanon Disappear in 2014

[Hollie]

Lebanon is already in this mess. Deep in the Syrian mud. every day you hear of Hezbollah and Al-Quaeda bombing one another, killing many Lebanese civilians in the process.

And it's not going to be stopped any-time soon.

Why are you confused about who is responsible for this mess when Wesley Clark answered that question in 2003?

"In Clark's book, Winning Modern Wars, published in 2003, he describes his conversation with a military officer in the Pentagon shortly after 9/11 regarding a plan to attack seven Middle Eastern countries in five years: 'As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more.

"'This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia,Sudan and finishing off Iran.'"

Regime change has already come to Iraq and Libya.
Syria and Lebanon are next.
The US and NATO and Israel are redrawing the hundred-year old borders of the Middle East to accommodate 21st century capitalism.
Millions more Muslims will be maimed, murdered, and displaced in order to accomplish the current Masters of Mankind Vile Maxim: all for ourselves and nothing for others.

Wesley Clark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is now the fourth time you have spammed the board with cut and paste?

 

[Sally]

Lebanon is already in this mess. Deep in the Syrian mud. every day you hear of Hezbollah and Al-Quaeda bombing one another, killing many Lebanese civilians in the process.

And it's not going to be stopped any-time soon.

Why are you confused about who is responsible for this mess when Wesley Clark answered that question in 2003?

"In Clark's book, Winning Modern Wars, published in 2003, he describes his conversation with a military officer in the Pentagon shortly after 9/11 regarding a plan to attack seven Middle Eastern countries in five years: 'As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more.

"'This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia,Sudan and finishing off Iran.'"

Regime change has already come to Iraq and Libya.
Syria and Lebanon are next.
The US and NATO and Israel are redrawing the hundred-year old borders of the Middle East to accommodate 21st century capitalism.
Millions more Muslims will be maimed, murdered, and displaced in order to accomplish the current Masters of Mankind Vile Maxim: all for ourselves and nothing for others.

Wesley Clark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You're spamming again, Mr. George. How many times do you think the readers want to see "Westley Clark" once again in your posts. You must have posted this Wesley Clark stuff well over a hundred times by now. Why not report to us what is going on in a Middle East country at the moment. This is the Middle East forum, and there are many Middle Eastern countries where different things are going on all the time. What's happening in Yemen at this time? What's happening in Saudi Arabia? What's happening in the Emirates? You really don't have to show the readers all the time that you hate the U.S. and Israel. I think they realize it by now.

 

[georgephillip]

Lebanon is already in this mess. Deep in the Syrian mud. every day you hear of Hezbollah and Al-Quaeda bombing one another, killing many Lebanese civilians in the process.

And it's not going to be stopped any-time soon.

Why are you confused about who is responsible for this mess when Wesley Clark answered that question in 2003?

"In Clark's book, Winning Modern Wars, published in 2003, he describes his conversation with a military officer in the Pentagon shortly after 9/11 regarding a plan to attack seven Middle Eastern countries in five years: 'As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more.

"'This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia,Sudan and finishing off Iran.'"

Regime change has already come to Iraq and Libya.
Syria and Lebanon are next.
The US and NATO and Israel are redrawing the hundred-year old borders of the Middle East to accommodate 21st century capitalism.
Millions more Muslims will be maimed, murdered, and displaced in order to accomplish the current Masters of Mankind Vile Maxim: all for ourselves and nothing for others.

Wesley Clark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is now the fourth time you have spammed the board with cut and paste?

"Forum spam consists of posts on Internet forums that contain unrelated advertisements, links to malicious websites, and abusive or otherwise unwanted information. Forum spam is usually posted onto message boards by automated spambots or manually with unscrupulous intentions with one idea in mind: to get the spam in front of readers who would not otherwise have anything to do with it intentionally."

You know less about spam than you know about Palestine.
Lipush may well be unaware of Wesley's 2003 warning.
Many US citizens are entirely ignorant of it.
Since the fact that the US was planning to overthrow the governments of seven sovereign states within weeks of 911 seems relevant to many of today's events in Syria, Palestine, and Lebanon, I'll continue to use the information whenever I feel it's appropriate.
If you have a big problem with that, move to a country unencumbered with a First Amendment, like Syria, Lebanon, or Israel.

Forum spam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Forum spam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[georgephillip]

Jaisal Noor of TRNN interviews Vijay Prashad concerning the spate of recent car bombings in Lebanon:

"NOOR: So, Vijay, you're in Beirut right now. We know there's been a lot of violence and a few bombings that have happened there recently, in the last few weeks. You have an upcoming piece coming out in The Hindu about what's been going on there. Can you please fill us in?

"PRASHAD: Well, you know, there have been two major bombings within a week, one that took place in downtown Beirut, which killed a former Lebanese ambassador to the United States, a Lebanese finance minister, Mohamad Chatah. Then there was a bombing just yesterday in the southern suburbs of Beirut, which killed about four or five people, wounded about 80 people..."

"NOOR: And I know there's been pro-Syrian forces--Hezbollah has been targeted in some of these attacks, but also anti-Syrian leaders have also been targeted. Can you talk about the causes of this violence and how much of this perhaps is a spillover from what's happening in Syria right now?

PRASHAD: Well, as I say, it's very hard to precisely say which bombing is related to what particular political tendency specifically, but there are some general themes that I think can be brought out.

"For instance, it is the case that there is at least two sets of major fights going on around Beirut--around Lebanon, in fact.

"One is a fight inside Lebanon about the question of political legitimacy.

"There are two main political blocs: the March 14 bloc, which is backed largely by Saudi Arabia, and the March 8 bloc, which is dominated largely by Hezbollah and its allies.

"So these two blocs have been jockeying for political power in a very complicated system for several months.

"There's been an interim government.

"They've had a hard time creating a cabinet.

"And behind all this is deals being made over the possibility of offshore natural gas and oil fields."

Story

 

[aris2chat]

Jaisal Noor of TRNN interviews Vijay Prashad concerning the spate of recent car bombings in Lebanon:

"NOOR: So, Vijay, you're in Beirut right now. We know there's been a lot of violence and a few bombings that have happened there recently, in the last few weeks. You have an upcoming piece coming out in The Hindu about what's been going on there. Can you please fill us in?

"PRASHAD: Well, you know, there have been two major bombings within a week, one that took place in downtown Beirut, which killed a former Lebanese ambassador to the United States, a Lebanese finance minister, Mohamad Chatah. Then there was a bombing just yesterday in the southern suburbs of Beirut, which killed about four or five people, wounded about 80 people..."

"NOOR: And I know there's been pro-Syrian forces--Hezbollah has been targeted in some of these attacks, but also anti-Syrian leaders have also been targeted. Can you talk about the causes of this violence and how much of this perhaps is a spillover from what's happening in Syria right now?

PRASHAD: Well, as I say, it's very hard to precisely say which bombing is related to what particular political tendency specifically, but there are some general themes that I think can be brought out.

"For instance, it is the case that there is at least two sets of major fights going on around Beirut--around Lebanon, in fact.

"One is a fight inside Lebanon about the question of political legitimacy.

"There are two main political blocs: the March 14 bloc, which is backed largely by Saudi Arabia, and the March 8 bloc, which is dominated largely by Hezbollah and its allies.

"So these two blocs have been jockeying for political power in a very complicated system for several months.

"There's been an interim government.

"They've had a hard time creating a cabinet.

"And behind all this is deals being made over the possibility of offshore natural gas and oil fields."

Story

He makes it sound so sane when it is anything but.
As for the oil and gas.... they can't even negotiate drilling rights with Israel over the field because of hezbullah.

 

[georgephillip]

Jaisal Noor of TRNN interviews Vijay Prashad concerning the spate of recent car bombings in Lebanon:

"NOOR: So, Vijay, you're in Beirut right now. We know there's been a lot of violence and a few bombings that have happened there recently, in the last few weeks. You have an upcoming piece coming out in The Hindu about what's been going on there. Can you please fill us in?

"PRASHAD: Well, you know, there have been two major bombings within a week, one that took place in downtown Beirut, which killed a former Lebanese ambassador to the United States, a Lebanese finance minister, Mohamad Chatah. Then there was a bombing just yesterday in the southern suburbs of Beirut, which killed about four or five people, wounded about 80 people..."

"NOOR: And I know there's been pro-Syrian forces--Hezbollah has been targeted in some of these attacks, but also anti-Syrian leaders have also been targeted. Can you talk about the causes of this violence and how much of this perhaps is a spillover from what's happening in Syria right now?

PRASHAD: Well, as I say, it's very hard to precisely say which bombing is related to what particular political tendency specifically, but there are some general themes that I think can be brought out.

"For instance, it is the case that there is at least two sets of major fights going on around Beirut--around Lebanon, in fact.

"One is a fight inside Lebanon about the question of political legitimacy.

"There are two main political blocs: the March 14 bloc, which is backed largely by Saudi Arabia, and the March 8 bloc, which is dominated largely by Hezbollah and its allies.

"So these two blocs have been jockeying for political power in a very complicated system for several months.

"There's been an interim government.

"They've had a hard time creating a cabinet.

"And behind all this is deals being made over the possibility of offshore natural gas and oil fields."

Story

He makes it sound so sane when it is anything but.
As for the oil and gas.... they can't even negotiate drilling rights with Israel over the field because of hezbullah.

The Saudis are apparently calling for Hezbollah to disarm:

"So, you know, this political tension, the inability to make any kind of deal inside the country, has been linked to the fact that the March 14 bloc, the bloc that is close to Saudi Arabia, has wanted Hezbollah to in a sense demilitarize, to put its fighters under the authority of the Lebanese military, or indeed to disband entirely.

"And so this is one major fight inside Lebanon, the question of Hezbollah's militia, the question of who gets sovereignty over force.

"Linked to that is the second set of issues, which is the support that these two blocs have provided to the fight in Syria.

"Largely, although not entirely, the March 14 bloc backs the opposition in Syria.

"And, again, largely, but not entirely, the March 8 bloc backs the Assad regime.

"It has to be said that people in Hezbollah don't say they back the Assad regime.

"What they say is, we have terrible choices, and this is the choice we have to make."

Terrible choices that are only likely to get worse if the economic roots of the New Middle East don't get more discussion

Story

 

[aris2chat]

Jaisal Noor of TRNN interviews Vijay Prashad concerning the spate of recent car bombings in Lebanon:

"NOOR: So, Vijay, you're in Beirut right now. We know there's been a lot of violence and a few bombings that have happened there recently, in the last few weeks. You have an upcoming piece coming out in The Hindu about what's been going on there. Can you please fill us in?

"PRASHAD: Well, you know, there have been two major bombings within a week, one that took place in downtown Beirut, which killed a former Lebanese ambassador to the United States, a Lebanese finance minister, Mohamad Chatah. Then there was a bombing just yesterday in the southern suburbs of Beirut, which killed about four or five people, wounded about 80 people..."

"NOOR: And I know there's been pro-Syrian forces--Hezbollah has been targeted in some of these attacks, but also anti-Syrian leaders have also been targeted. Can you talk about the causes of this violence and how much of this perhaps is a spillover from what's happening in Syria right now?

PRASHAD: Well, as I say, it's very hard to precisely say which bombing is related to what particular political tendency specifically, but there are some general themes that I think can be brought out.

"For instance, it is the case that there is at least two sets of major fights going on around Beirut--around Lebanon, in fact.

"One is a fight inside Lebanon about the question of political legitimacy.

"There are two main political blocs: the March 14 bloc, which is backed largely by Saudi Arabia, and the March 8 bloc, which is dominated largely by Hezbollah and its allies.

"So these two blocs have been jockeying for political power in a very complicated system for several months.

"There's been an interim government.

"They've had a hard time creating a cabinet.

"And behind all this is deals being made over the possibility of offshore natural gas and oil fields."

Story

He makes it sound so sane when it is anything but.
As for the oil and gas.... they can't even negotiate drilling rights with Israel over the field because of hezbullah.

The Saudis are apparently calling for Hezbollah to disarm:

"So, you know, this political tension, the inability to make any kind of deal inside the country, has been linked to the fact that the March 14 bloc, the bloc that is close to Saudi Arabia, has wanted Hezbollah to in a sense demilitarize, to put its fighters under the authority of the Lebanese military, or indeed to disband entirely.

"And so this is one major fight inside Lebanon, the question of Hezbollah's militia, the question of who gets sovereignty over force.

"Linked to that is the second set of issues, which is the support that these two blocs have provided to the fight in Syria.

"Largely, although not entirely, the March 14 bloc backs the opposition in Syria.

"And, again, largely, but not entirely, the March 8 bloc backs the Assad regime.

"It has to be said that people in Hezbollah don't say they back the Assad regime.

"What they say is, we have terrible choices, and this is the choice we have to make."

Terrible choices that are only likely to get worse if the economic roots of the New Middle East don't get more discussion

Story

When the civil war ended all factions were supposed to disarm. Hezbullah did not. It has been responsible for several assassination and since instigated a war with Israel. Now it is moving missiles from syria into Lebanon further endangering Lebanon.

 

[SAYIT]

Jaisal Noor of TRNN interviews Vijay Prashad concerning the spate of recent car bombings in Lebanon:

"NOOR: So, Vijay, you're in Beirut right now. We know there's been a lot of violence and a few bombings that have happened there recently, in the last few weeks. You have an upcoming piece coming out in The Hindu about what's been going on there. Can you please fill us in?

"PRASHAD: Well, you know, there have been two major bombings within a week, one that took place in downtown Beirut, which killed a former Lebanese ambassador to the United States, a Lebanese finance minister, Mohamad Chatah. Then there was a bombing just yesterday in the southern suburbs of Beirut, which killed about four or five people, wounded about 80 people..."

"NOOR: And I know there's been pro-Syrian forces--Hezbollah has been targeted in some of these attacks, but also anti-Syrian leaders have also been targeted. Can you talk about the causes of this violence and how much of this perhaps is a spillover from what's happening in Syria right now?

PRASHAD: Well, as I say, it's very hard to precisely say which bombing is related to what particular political tendency specifically, but there are some general themes that I think can be brought out.

"For instance, it is the case that there is at least two sets of major fights going on around Beirut--around Lebanon, in fact.

"One is a fight inside Lebanon about the question of political legitimacy.

"There are two main political blocs: the March 14 bloc, which is backed largely by Saudi Arabia, and the March 8 bloc, which is dominated largely by Hezbollah and its allies.

"So these two blocs have been jockeying for political power in a very complicated system for several months.

"There's been an interim government.

"They've had a hard time creating a cabinet.

"And behind all this is deals being made over the possibility of offshore natural gas and oil fields."

Story

Whoa! An entire conversation about Arab Mideast violence and no one blamed Israel or da Jooos?

 

[georgephillip]

He makes it sound so sane when it is anything but.
As for the oil and gas.... they can't even negotiate drilling rights with Israel over the field because of hezbullah.

The Saudis are apparently calling for Hezbollah to disarm:

"So, you know, this political tension, the inability to make any kind of deal inside the country, has been linked to the fact that the March 14 bloc, the bloc that is close to Saudi Arabia, has wanted Hezbollah to in a sense demilitarize, to put its fighters under the authority of the Lebanese military, or indeed to disband entirely.

"And so this is one major fight inside Lebanon, the question of Hezbollah's militia, the question of who gets sovereignty over force.

"Linked to that is the second set of issues, which is the support that these two blocs have provided to the fight in Syria.

"Largely, although not entirely, the March 14 bloc backs the opposition in Syria.

"And, again, largely, but not entirely, the March 8 bloc backs the Assad regime.

"It has to be said that people in Hezbollah don't say they back the Assad regime.

"What they say is, we have terrible choices, and this is the choice we have to make."

Terrible choices that are only likely to get worse if the economic roots of the New Middle East don't get more discussion

Story

When the civil war ended all factions were supposed to disarm. Hezbullah did not. It has been responsible for several assassination and since instigated a war with Israel. Now it is moving missiles from syria into Lebanon further endangering Lebanon.

How many times has Hezbolla invaded and occupied Israel?
Israel constantly violates its cease fire agreement with Lebanon by overflights of Lebanese air space and violations of Lebanon's coastal waters. Any Hezbolla missiles aimed at Israel is a defensive measure well justified by repeated Israeli invasions of Lebanon.

 

[SAYIT]

The Saudis are apparently calling for Hezbollah to disarm:

"So, you know, this political tension, the inability to make any kind of deal inside the country, has been linked to the fact that the March 14 bloc, the bloc that is close to Saudi Arabia, has wanted Hezbollah to in a sense demilitarize, to put its fighters under the authority of the Lebanese military, or indeed to disband entirely.

"And so this is one major fight inside Lebanon, the question of Hezbollah's militia, the question of who gets sovereignty over force.

"Linked to that is the second set of issues, which is the support that these two blocs have provided to the fight in Syria.

"Largely, although not entirely, the March 14 bloc backs the opposition in Syria.

"And, again, largely, but not entirely, the March 8 bloc backs the Assad regime.

"It has to be said that people in Hezbollah don't say they back the Assad regime.

"What they say is, we have terrible choices, and this is the choice we have to make."

Terrible choices that are only likely to get worse if the economic roots of the New Middle East don't get more discussion

Story

When the civil war ended all factions were supposed to disarm. Hezbullah did not. It has been responsible for several assassination and since instigated a war with Israel. Now it is moving missiles from syria into Lebanon further endangering Lebanon.

How many times has Hezbolla invaded and occupied Israel?

They would if they could.

 

[Shaarona]

He makes it sound so sane when it is anything but.
As for the oil and gas.... they can't even negotiate drilling rights with Israel over the field because of hezbullah.

The Saudis are apparently calling for Hezbollah to disarm:

"So, you know, this political tension, the inability to make any kind of deal inside the country, has been linked to the fact that the March 14 bloc, the bloc that is close to Saudi Arabia, has wanted Hezbollah to in a sense demilitarize, to put its fighters under the authority of the Lebanese military, or indeed to disband entirely.

"And so this is one major fight inside Lebanon, the question of Hezbollah's militia, the question of who gets sovereignty over force.

"Linked to that is the second set of issues, which is the support that these two blocs have provided to the fight in Syria.

"Largely, although not entirely, the March 14 bloc backs the opposition in Syria.

"And, again, largely, but not entirely, the March 8 bloc backs the Assad regime.

"It has to be said that people in Hezbollah don't say they back the Assad regime.

"What they say is, we have terrible choices, and this is the choice we have to make."

Terrible choices that are only likely to get worse if the economic roots of the New Middle East don't get more discussion

Story

When the civil war ended all factions were supposed to disarm. Hezbullah did not. It has been responsible for several assassination and since instigated a war with Israel. Now it is moving missiles from syria into Lebanon further endangering Lebanon.

Oh please Israel has been tormenting Lebanon since 1950.. Read Moshe Dayan. They wanted more land and water.

Even when they withdrew from Lebanon, they set thousands of mines... most small farmers can't go back because some guy plowing his fields gets blown to bits.

Hezbollah is the result... of not leaving Lebanon alone. Even now they fly low and deep into Lebanon as far north as Sidon.. scaring the wits out of the populous... and violating Lebanese airspace.

Having said that.. I agree with KSA that Hezbollah should disarm for the sake of Lebanon..


Forget Wesly Clark.. he's a floorflusher.

 

[georgephillip]

When the civil war ended all factions were supposed to disarm. Hezbullah did not. It has been responsible for several assassination and since instigated a war with Israel. Now it is moving missiles from syria into Lebanon further endangering Lebanon.

How many times has Hezbolla invaded and occupied Israel?

They would if they could.

They didn't expel a hundred thousand Jews from their homes, businesses, and bank accounts in 1948:

"Over 100,000 refugees of the 1948 Nakba fled north into Lebanon, populating 16 UNRWA refugee camps, including Sabra and Shatila where terrible massacres later occurred. Palestinian resistance groups formed and conducted resistance operations against Israel, drawing Israeli retaliation into Lebanon."

If all the citizens of Mandate Palestine in 1948 had decided their own course of self-determination at the ballot box (instead of the UN), there would have been no need for armed struggle on the scale we are seeing today from Beirut to Basra.

al-Nakba: the Palestinian "Catastrophe"

 

[georgephillip]

The Saudis are apparently calling for Hezbollah to disarm:

"So, you know, this political tension, the inability to make any kind of deal inside the country, has been linked to the fact that the March 14 bloc, the bloc that is close to Saudi Arabia, has wanted Hezbollah to in a sense demilitarize, to put its fighters under the authority of the Lebanese military, or indeed to disband entirely.

"And so this is one major fight inside Lebanon, the question of Hezbollah's militia, the question of who gets sovereignty over force.

"Linked to that is the second set of issues, which is the support that these two blocs have provided to the fight in Syria.

"Largely, although not entirely, the March 14 bloc backs the opposition in Syria.

"And, again, largely, but not entirely, the March 8 bloc backs the Assad regime.

"It has to be said that people in Hezbollah don't say they back the Assad regime.

"What they say is, we have terrible choices, and this is the choice we have to make."

Terrible choices that are only likely to get worse if the economic roots of the New Middle East don't get more discussion

Story

When the civil war ended all factions were supposed to disarm. Hezbullah did not. It has been responsible for several assassination and since instigated a war with Israel. Now it is moving missiles from syria into Lebanon further endangering Lebanon.

Oh please Israel has been tormenting Lebanon since 1950.. Read Moshe Dayan. They wanted more land and water.

Even when they withdrew from Lebanon, they set thousands of mines... most small farmers can't go back because some guy plowing his fields gets blown to bits.

Hezbollah is the result... of not leaving Lebanon alone. Even now they fly low and deep into Lebanon as far north as Sidon.. scaring the wits out of the populous... and violating Lebanese airspace.

Having said that.. I agree with KSA that Hezbollah should disarm for the sake of Lebanon..


Forget Wesly Clark.. he's a floorflusher.

Wesley Clark is a corporate tool in the mold of Bill and Hill and Barry and Dubya; however, he also a former West Point class valedictorian who has been proven to be essentially correct about a plan hatched in the Pentagon in late 2001 to invade and destabilize seven Muslim states over five years time.

The timeline wasn't accurate, but it would be hard to convince Saddam and Gaddafi that Clark hasn't been proven to be a prophet, regardless of his many character defects.

 

[Shaarona]

When the civil war ended all factions were supposed to disarm. Hezbullah did not. It has been responsible for several assassination and since instigated a war with Israel. Now it is moving missiles from syria into Lebanon further endangering Lebanon.

Oh please Israel has been tormenting Lebanon since 1950.. Read Moshe Dayan. They wanted more land and water.

Even when they withdrew from Lebanon, they set thousands of mines... most small farmers can't go back because some guy plowing his fields gets blown to bits.

Hezbollah is the result... of not leaving Lebanon alone. Even now they fly low and deep into Lebanon as far north as Sidon.. scaring the wits out of the populous... and violating Lebanese airspace.

Having said that.. I agree with KSA that Hezbollah should disarm for the sake of Lebanon..


Forget Wesly Clark.. he's a floorflusher.

Wesley Clark is a corporate tool in the mold of Bill and Hill and Barry and Dubya; however, he also a former West Point class valedictorian who has been proven to be essentially correct about a plan hatched in the Pentagon in late 2001 to invade and destabilize seven Muslim state over five years time.

The timeline wasn't accurate, but it would be hard to convince Saddam and Gaddafi that Clark hasn't been proven to be a prophet, regardless of his many character defects.

Clark is attention seeking.. The Pentagon prepares for all sorts of scenarios.. Overthrowing ME countries in succession would disastrous for the US and Europe.

 

[georgephillip]

Oh please Israel has been tormenting Lebanon since 1950.. Read Moshe Dayan. They wanted more land and water.

Even when they withdrew from Lebanon, they set thousands of mines... most small farmers can't go back because some guy plowing his fields gets blown to bits.

Hezbollah is the result... of not leaving Lebanon alone. Even now they fly low and deep into Lebanon as far north as Sidon.. scaring the wits out of the populous... and violating Lebanese airspace.

Having said that.. I agree with KSA that Hezbollah should disarm for the sake of Lebanon..


Forget Wesly Clark.. he's a floorflusher.

Wesley Clark is a corporate tool in the mold of Bill and Hill and Barry and Dubya; however, he also a former West Point class valedictorian who has been proven to be essentially correct about a plan hatched in the Pentagon in late 2001 to invade and destabilize seven Muslim state over five years time.

The timeline wasn't accurate, but it would be hard to convince Saddam and Gaddafi that Clark hasn't been proven to be a prophet, regardless of his many character defects.

Clark is attention seeking.. The Pentagon prepares for all sorts of scenarios.. Overthrowing ME countries in succession would disastrous for the US and Europe.

It is happening before your eyes:

"You know, since perhaps the last two years, with the Syrian war in full flush, in parts of Iraq a group has emerged called the Islamic State for Iraq and al-Sham, the ISIS.

"You know, they come out of different formations inside Iraq, part of it perhaps drawing from the so-called al-Qaeda of Iraq group that had made its appearance during the American occupation.

"Some parts of it have drawn from the so-called Sunni Awakening groups that were formed by the U.S. government to tackle al-Qaeda.

"You know, different formations have fueled the people or funneled their people into this ISIS grouping.

"In July, over the summer, June and July, ISIS did a bunch of very daring prison breaks, including one in July in Abu Ghraib Prison, where they broke out about 500 hardened fighters. And they have used these, you know, these jailbreaks to replenish their ranks with very tough people who are used to battle.

"And it's with these people that ISIS has essentially taken control of the road that runs from Baghdad, but really from Ramadi, which is a main city in Anbar Province, all the way out to Raqqah, which is in northern Syria.

"And that road, which goes along the Syrian desert, is essentially in ISIS hands."

Story

 

[Shaarona]

Wesley Clark is a corporate tool in the mold of Bill and Hill and Barry and Dubya; however, he also a former West Point class valedictorian who has been proven to be essentially correct about a plan hatched in the Pentagon in late 2001 to invade and destabilize seven Muslim state over five years time.

The timeline wasn't accurate, but it would be hard to convince Saddam and Gaddafi that Clark hasn't been proven to be a prophet, regardless of his many character defects.

Clark is attention seeking.. The Pentagon prepares for all sorts of scenarios.. Overthrowing ME countries in succession would disastrous for the US and Europe.

It is happening before your eyes:

"You know, since perhaps the last two years, with the Syrian war in full flush, in parts of Iraq a group has emerged called the Islamic State for Iraq and al-Sham, the ISIS.

"You know, they come out of different formations inside Iraq, part of it perhaps drawing from the so-called al-Qaeda of Iraq group that had made its appearance during the American occupation.

"Some parts of it have drawn from the so-called Sunni Awakening groups that were formed by the U.S. government to tackle al-Qaeda.

"You know, different formations have fueled the people or funneled their people into this ISIS grouping.

"In July, over the summer, June and July, ISIS did a bunch of very daring prison breaks, including one in July in Abu Ghraib Prison, where they broke out about 500 hardened fighters. And they have used these, you know, these jailbreaks to replenish their ranks with very tough people who are used to battle.

"And it's with these people that ISIS has essentially taken control of the road that runs from Baghdad, but really from Ramadi, which is a main city in Anbar Province, all the way out to Raqqah, which is in northern Syria.

"And that road, which goes along the Syrian desert, is essentially in ISIS hands."

Story

Real News? You're kidding.. Its a bloody blog.

 

[Phoenall]

How many times has Hezbolla invaded and occupied Israel?

They would if they could.

They didn't expel a hundred thousand Jews from their homes, businesses, and bank accounts in 1948:

"Over 100,000 refugees of the 1948 Nakba fled north into Lebanon, populating 16 UNRWA refugee camps, including Sabra and Shatila where terrible massacres later occurred. Palestinian resistance groups formed and conducted resistance operations against Israel, drawing Israeli retaliation into Lebanon."

If all the citizens of Mandate Palestine in 1948 had decided their own course of self-determination at the ballot box (instead of the UN), there would have been no need for armed struggle on the scale we are seeing today from Beirut to Basra.

al-Nakba: the Palestinian "Catastrophe"

So how about we in the UK are given the chance to vote on what should happen in filastn because we have a much greater claim to the land than the muslims ever had. How about the 1 million Jews forced from their homes and beaten as they fled their property in 1948 ?

 

[Shaarona]

They would if they could.

They didn't expel a hundred thousand Jews from their homes, businesses, and bank accounts in 1948:

"Over 100,000 refugees of the 1948 Nakba fled north into Lebanon, populating 16 UNRWA refugee camps, including Sabra and Shatila where terrible massacres later occurred. Palestinian resistance groups formed and conducted resistance operations against Israel, drawing Israeli retaliation into Lebanon."

If all the citizens of Mandate Palestine in 1948 had decided their own course of self-determination at the ballot box (instead of the UN), there would have been no need for armed struggle on the scale we are seeing today from Beirut to Basra.

al-Nakba: the Palestinian "Catastrophe"

So how about we in the UK are given the chance to vote on what should happen in filastn because we have a much greater claim to the land than the muslims ever had. How about the 1 million Jews forced from their homes and beaten as they fled their property in 1948 ?

Forced from their homes in Europe.. not in Palestine... nor anywhere else in the ME.

They left in small numbers dribbling out in 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973.. They numbered less than 650,000.

See what I mean about blind hate and research?

 

[SAYIT]

They didn't expel a hundred thousand Jews from their homes, businesses, and bank accounts in 1948:

"Over 100,000 refugees of the 1948 Nakba fled north into Lebanon, populating 16 UNRWA refugee camps, including Sabra and Shatila where terrible massacres later occurred. Palestinian resistance groups formed and conducted resistance operations against Israel, drawing Israeli retaliation into Lebanon."

If all the citizens of Mandate Palestine in 1948 had decided their own course of self-determination at the ballot box (instead of the UN), there would have been no need for armed struggle on the scale we are seeing today from Beirut to Basra.

al-Nakba: the Palestinian "Catastrophe"

So how about we in the UK are given the chance to vote on what should happen in filastn because we have a much greater claim to the land than the muslims ever had. How about the 1 million Jews forced from their homes and beaten as they fled their property in 1948 ?

Forced from their homes in Europe.. not in Palestine... nor anywhere else in the ME.

They left in small numbers dribbling out in 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973.. They numbered less than 650,000.

See what I mean about blind hate and research?

I notice the lack of substantiation for your claims and the following from Wiki says you are wrong about where they came from and how many and includes sources:

From the onset of the 1948 Arab–Israeli War until the early 1970s, 800,000–1,000,000 Jews left, fled, or were expelled from their homes in Arab countries. Some place the emigration peak to a slightly earlier time window of 1944 to 1964, when some 700,000 Jews moved to Israel from Arab countries and were dispossessed of nearly their entire property.[2] 260,000 Jews from Arab countries had immigrated to Israel between 1948 and 1951 and amounted for 56% of the total immigration to the newly founded State of Israel.[3] 600,000 Jews from Arab and Muslim countries had reached Israel by 1972.[4][5][6] By the Yom Kippur War of 1973, most of the Jewish communities throughout the Arab World, as well as Pakistan and Afghanistan, were practically non-existent.

Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim countries - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Shaarona]

So how about we in the UK are given the chance to vote on what should happen in filastn because we have a much greater claim to the land than the muslims ever had. How about the 1 million Jews forced from their homes and beaten as they fled their property in 1948 ?

Forced from their homes in Europe.. not in Palestine... nor anywhere else in the ME.

They left in small numbers dribbling out in 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973.. They numbered less than 650,000.

See what I mean about blind hate and research?

I notice the lack of substantiation for your claims and the following from Wiki says you are wrong about where they came from and how many and includes sources:

From the onset of the 1948 Arab–Israeli War until the early 1970s, 800,000–1,000,000 Jews left, fled, or were expelled from their homes in Arab countries. Some place the emigration peak to a slightly earlier time window of 1944 to 1964, when some 700,000 Jews moved to Israel from Arab countries and were dispossessed of nearly their entire property.[2] 260,000 Jews from Arab countries had immigrated to Israel between 1948 and 1951 and amounted for 56% of the total immigration to the newly founded State of Israel.[3] 600,000 Jews from Arab and Muslim countries had reached Israel by 1972.[4][5][6] By the Yom Kippur War of 1973, most of the Jewish communities throughout the Arab World, as well as Pakistan and Afghanistan, were practically non-existent.

Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim countries - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why don't you look at Jewish populations BY Country? For instance ... Libya, Yemen, Iran, Iraq, Morocco, Lebanon.. instead of depending on Wiki.