Zone1 Will America be in big trouble when they try to divide the Holy Land?

[DennisPTate]

Here is a warning from over a decade ago that needs to be put all over the internet again because if America tries to divide Israel,
the consequences could be huge!

I believe that President Trump is very pro-Israel and wants to assist Israelis to have peace but,
he could go too far and the consequences could be catastrophic for America?

The relevant prediction of an earthquake in America is after the nineteen minute mark in this video.

Shane Warren 1 on It's Supernatural with Sid Roth - Future of America​

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Order the 7-CD set through the following link! http://bit.ly/Md78p4This week on Sid Roth's It's Supernatural, prophecy is being fulfilled everyday! Wars and rumors of wars. The shaking of the economy. Muslim extremism. But you can have God's favor even as America comes under judgment. Are you ready to thrive?

Here is the most relevant part of the transcript:

[Shane Warren] :

it came back to the Anchor he said
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ladies and gentlemen another tragedy has
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hit America he said right in the
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heartland of America on the new MRI
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fault a major earthquake has just hit
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and immediately pictures of Devastation
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show began to pop up all over America
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the heartland of America along the New
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Madrid fault as earthquakes caus entire
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cities to to crumble and while I was
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sitting there I heard a booming voice in
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behind my ear that said
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they have divided my land now I will
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divide their land and Leviticus says
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that Israel is God's land he actually
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says this is my
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land and the word of God goes on to
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prophesy in Joel I believe it is that if
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we divide his land that God will divide
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our land I I never realized the the
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prophetic implications of that but I
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knew immediately in my dream or in this
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Vision that he was speak speaking about
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Israel and specifically Jerusalem and
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all that's going on right now which
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tells me that this dream that I've had
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and all of the issues that are going on
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with Israel and Jerusalem that's taking
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place right now said it tells me that
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this dream that I had is about to unfold
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uh because I heard that and uh I saw I
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saw the incredible uh changes in the
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prices of currency I saw silver not gold
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but I saw silver begin to dress ically
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uh increase in value not gold but silver
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which to me is is against my natural
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thinking I don't really fully I'm not an
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economist I'm a preacher uh well I can
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tell you this 20 years ago I had a dream

 

[Zebra]

why should it?

 

[DennisPTate]

why should it?

In my opinion, President Donald J. Trump is the most pro-Israel President of the USA since President Ronald Reagan but.....

President Trump CANNOT feel that what he thinks and plans......

is the same thing as the will of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus who apparently is now resurrecting people who were in a coma for forty four hours and whose brain was destroyed by oxygen deprivation!?????

I believe that the Christian Advisors who President Trump had from 2015 to 2020 were far less than well informed when it came to truly massive issues where assisting Americans and serving our Creator the G-d of Abraham would fit together nicely.

President Trump needs to fear the warning that was given to Christian author and visionary Rick Joyner that became the book "The Final Quest," "The Call" and "The Torch and the Sword."


America is headed into something that can be compared with The Civil War but President Trump's advisors from his first term are lacking understanding of how serious all of this really is.

"The Lord is now preparing courageous leaders who
will be willing to fight a spiritual civil war in order to set men free.
The main issue, as in the American Civil War, will be slavery versus
freedom. The secondary issue, which will be the primary issue for some,
will be money.

Just as the American Civil War at time looked like it would destroy the entire
nation, that which is coming upon the church will sometimes appear as if it will
bring the end of the church. However, just as the United States not only
survived but went on to become the most powerful nation on earth, the same
is going to happen to the church. The church will not be destroyed, but the institutions
and doctrines that have kept men in spiritual slavery will be" (Rick Joyner, The Vision, page 39)

My belief is that Pastor Rick Joyner and a member of his family along with near death experiencer Robert and Carol Marshall would be far better on any big question than all four hundred of the Christian Advisors who President Trump had during his first term.


You can find more information about the modern "Lazarus" Robert Marshall here:

Zone1 Thread 'New information on "Old Earth Creationism" and on "Theistic Evolutionary Theory?"'

Nov 26, 2025

As of last year new information came out related to Old Earth Creationism. Near death experiencer Robert Marshall was brain dead for ninety minutes and in a coma for forty four hours. During the last forty three hours and twenty eight minutes, he claims that Jesus filled him in on astonishing details such as"
1. The earth itself is three point six BILLION years old
2. Satan BEGAN to fall roughly seventy million years ago.
3. Satan had fully fallen by about sixty five million years ago.

I believe that this information is highly relevant to Pope Leo and I would suggest to Pope Leo that he...

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[Zebra]

that he ..... ?

 

[Invisibleflash]

Here is a warning from over a decade ago that needs to be put all over the internet again because if America tries to divide Israel,
the consequences could be huge!

I believe that President Trump is very pro-Israel and wants to assist Israelis to have peace but,
he could go too far and the consequences could be catastrophic for America?

The relevant prediction of an earthquake in America is after the nineteen minute mark in this video.

Shane Warren 1 on It's Supernatural with Sid Roth - Future of America​

Here is the most relevant part of the transcript:

Didn't vote. No idea.

But from what I can tell, no one will stop America and the Jews from taking over the Middle East and exterminating whomever they want to.

 

[DennisPTate]

that he ..... ?

I believe that President Donald J. Trump and his children and grandchildren can solve all issues facing the United States from up here in Canada.

I believe that President Donald J. Trump has already set up the Premier of Alberta to be more influential on the world scene than Prime Minister Mark Carney will be.

Premier Danielle Smith would be very unlikely to turn down an invitation to speak with retired Prime Minister Stephen Harper who handled the G-8 meetings of 2011 BRILLIANTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thread 'P. M. Mark Carney vs Prime Minister Stephen Harper on Canada - Israel relations?'

Nov 20, 2025

Who do you think approached the Israeli - Palestinian crisis with the greatest level of wisdom and understanding of the Big Picture?

I personally feel that Prime Minister Stephen Harper did a vastly better job at the G-8 meetings in 2011 than Prime Minister Mark Carney is doing now.

I believe that Prime Minister Mark Carney very likely felt "forced or pressured" into his approach to the Israeli - Palestinian conflict by young, idealistic, angry, but terribly biased Atheists and Agnostics in Canada's Liberal Party who have an approach to life much like the twenty young Atheists who...

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[The Irish Ram]

Joel 3:2 I will gather all the nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat, and I will enter into judgment with them there, on behalf of my people and my heritage Israel, because they have scattered them among the nations, and have divided up my land.

 

[DennisPTate]

Joel 3:2 I will gather all the nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat, and I will enter into judgment with them there, on behalf of my people and my heritage Israel, because they have scattered them among the nations, and have divided up my land.

On one level I do believe that the God of Abraham, the Creator of heaven and earth, is setting up a series of reality films plus semi-reality science fiction film series where many of us postulate how history could have been rewritten if certain people had decided to act in a more humble and prayerful manner.

 

[sparky]

'holy' land.....??? ~S~

 

[DennisPTate]

'holy' land.....??? ~S~

Good question, the "Holy Land" looks like it is being taken over by the dark side of the force more and more and more but once the Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple is built and put into use then Ezekiel chapter forty seven will be fulfilled literally and allegorically and the Holy Land will indeed become a place where it is obvious that the Creator of heaven and earth is beginning to intervene.

 

[DennisPTate]

why should it?

Rabbi Jonathan Cahn gives some interesting details about modern history where he goes to India and even Cuba. He also verifies the tradition that the disciple Thomas went to India and was martyred there.

It is shocking how anti-Semitism is rising up in most nations, and could even rise up in America.

An important part of the problem can be traced back to a policy that was formalized in Russia in 1972.

In a August 24, 2006 article entitled, "Russian Footprints", Ion Mihai Pacepa writes:

By the end of the 1960s, the KGB was deeply involved in mass terrorism against Jews, carried out by various Palestinian client organizations. Here are some terrorist actions for which the KGB took credit while I was still in Romania: November 1969, armed attack on the El Al office in Athens, leaving 1 dead and 14 wounded; May 30, 1972, Ben Gurion Airport attack, leaving 22 dead and 76 wounded; December 1974, Tel Aviv movie theater bomb, leaving 2 dead and 66 wounded; March 1975, attack on a Tel Aviv hotel, leaving 25 dead and 6 wounded; May 1975, Jerusalem bomb, leaving 1 dead and 3 wounded; July 4, 1975, bomb in Zion Square, Jerusalem, leaving 15 dead and 62 wounded; April 1978, Brussels airport attack, leaving 12 wounded; May 1978, attack on an El Al plane in Paris, leaving 12 wounded. ... In 1972, the Kremlin decided to turn the whole Islamic world against Israel and the U.S. As KGB chairman Yury Andropov told me, a billion adversaries could inflict far greater damage on America than could a few millions. We needed to instill a Nazi-style hatred for the Jews throughout the Islamic world, and to turn this weapon of the emotions into a terrorist bloodbath against Israel and its main supporter, the United States. No one within the American/Zionist sphere of influence should any longer feel safe.

• 1970 - Yasser Arafat, the father of modern terrorism:
  
  In 1970 the Kremlin became interested in an obscure Arab construction engineer and collector of racecars, named Rahman al-Qudwa. Evidence shows, contrary to later claims, that this "construction engineer" was an Egyptian, born in Cairo during the summer of 1929. Rahman graduated from the University of Cairo and served as an officer in the Egyptian Army during the 1956 Suez campaign. Later he set up a business in Kuwait and made a fortune. He then entered politics, founding a hopelessly small terrorist organization.... According to the former head of Romanian intelligence, Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa, one of the highest ranking communist defectors of all time, Rahman al-Qudwa became an important political ally of the communist bloc following the death of Egypt's president, Gamal Abdul Nasser, in 1970. Gen. Pacepa's account of Rahman's intimate relations with the communist bloc is related in a book entitled "Red Horizons."... Rahman al-Qudwa is better known as Yasser Arafat, the chairman of the PLO since 1968 and the president of the Palestinian Authority -- which is now at war with Israel. According to Gen. Pacepa's account, communist dictator Nicolae Ceausescu ordered his people to bring Arafat over to Romania. In late 1970 the chief of Romanian intelligence in Egypt, Gen. Constantine Munteanu, arrived in Bucharest with Arafat in tow. Munteanu had gathered an extensive file on Arafat, which characterized the PLO leader as "so much cleverness, blood, and filth all together in one man." Pacepa says that this was Munteanu's "standard definition of Arafat."
  Given Gen. Munteanu's extensive file, Arafat could not exactly refuse the communist's "friendly" overtures. There is little question that Arafat is fanatically devoted to destroying Israel, and would sell his soul to the devil to gain his devilish ends. Therefore, a compact between Arafat and the Soviet Union via communist Romania was not something that violated any sacred Islamic rule in Arafat's heart. Arafat is no Moslem. His fanaticism is completely secular. But since he operates within the Islamic world, he must sometimes appear as a would-be Muslim liberator. (“Kremlin puppets and how they work,” J.R. Nyquist, October 19, 2000) (read also Our Lady of the Roses prophecy about one who would come out of Egypt...)
  
• 1972 - According to Ion Mihai Pacepa, “In 1972, the Kremlin decided to turn the whole Islamic world against Israel and the U.S. As KGB chairman Yury Andropov … [said], a billion adversaries could inflict far greater damage on America than could a few millions. We needed to instill Nazi-style hatred for the Jews throughout the Islamic world, and to turn this weapon … against Israel and its main supporter, the United States.”
  
• 1973 - Soviet statements and preparations for an attack against Israel led the Pentagon to order U.S. nuclear forces to the highest state of peacetime readiness. The Joint Chiefs of Staff ordered the 82nd Airborne Division to prepare to head to the Middle East, and additional U.S. naval forces -- including American aircraft carriers -- moved into the Mediterranean, all out of a real and rising concern that the Soviets were about to make an unprecedented military move against Israel.
  
• 1982 - Israeli forces battling PLO terrorists in southern Lebanon unexpectedly uncovered a secret but massive cache of Soviet weaponry in deep underground cellars and tunnels. The storehouses contained some 4,000 tons of ammunition, 144 armored vehicles and tanks, 12,500 pieces of small arms, and 515 heavy weapons. Then-Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin said that the Russians had prepositioned enough weapons to "equip not five brigades, but five or six [Soviet] divisions," adding that "we shall need literally thousands of trucks to evacuate these weapons from Lebanon."

Unconverted Russia and its influence on the Mideast

Osama bin Laden's deputy issued a worldwide call today for Muslims to rise up in holy war against Israel and join the fighting in Lebanon and Gaza, until Islam reigns from "Spain to Iraq". Ayman al-Zawahiri warned that al-Qaida would not stand "idly by, humiliated", as Israeli "shells burn our...

www.tldm.org

A Prophetic Warning for America – Jonathan Cahn Reveals What’s Coming

 

[Mashmont]

Here is a warning from over a decade ago that needs to be put all over the internet again because if America tries to divide Israel,
the consequences could be huge!

I believe that President Trump is very pro-Israel and wants to assist Israelis to have peace but,
he could go too far and the consequences could be catastrophic for America?

The relevant prediction of an earthquake in America is after the nineteen minute mark in this video.

Shane Warren 1 on It's Supernatural with Sid Roth - Future of America​

Here is the most relevant part of the transcript:

I think the godlessness and immorality of the left is more likely to cause disaster. Sister Lucia, the last surviving Fatima visionary predicted doom back in 1957, citing immorality. Today we think it was a lot better in 1957 when there were at least societal sanctions against sex outside marriage and homosexual acts. How much worse it is now. We must really be in for it.

 

[DennisPTate]

I think the godlessness and immorality of the left is more likely to cause disaster. Sister Lucia, the last surviving Fatima visionary predicted doom back in 1957, citing immorality. Today we think it was a lot better in 1957 when there were at least societal sanctions against sex outside marriage and homosexual acts. How much worse it is now. We must really be in for it.

I have felt exactly the same thing since hearing this prediction back in 2012 but it is still theoretically possible that a deal could be presented to President Trump and his team that looks to be really, really, really good and that Middle East Shalom Deal could seem on the surface to be win, win, win, win but if it meant that President Trump divided the Holy Land then their could be negative consequences.

Near death experiencer Robert Mendelson on the other hand was given "God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land" that is a ONE STATE solution with a somewhat legally separate sub - state that might remind some of us of the already existing relationship between the Canadian province of Quebec with Ottawa and all of Canada? [Canada may soon have to write up an even better deal for the Canadian province of Alberta or Canada could well lose Alberta or Alberta+?

Thread 'God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land by near death experiencer Robert Mendelson.'

Dec 23, 2025

God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land by near death experiencer Robert Mendelson has already been translated into both Arabic as well as Hebrew from the original English.

I have spoken to Robert by phone and he speaks and writes like somebody who has multiple doctoral degrees. For example he could debate History, Economics, Spirituality, Philosophy and the subject of bringing Shalom to the Middle East with doctoral level professionals in all of those fields.

http://godspeaceplan.org/books-download-page/

Book DownloadsGod's Peace Plan for the Holy Land and Others...

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[BreezeWood]

- the "Holy Land" looks like it is being taken over by the dark side of the force more and more and more but once the Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple is built and put into use ...

the 1st century events in fact culminated in 70ce by the blessings of the heavens - it is the crucifiers that reinstalled the false prophets into their 4th century bible as the religion of apartheid and their false commandments ... and are those responsible again their betrayal of jesus to give credence to the war of genocide conducted in the middleast presently and the consequences of despotism it attempts to enshrine.

 

[DennisPTate]

the 1st century events in fact culminated in 70ce by the blessings of the heavens - it is the crucifiers that reinstalled the false prophets into their 4th century bible as the religion of apartheid and their false commandments ... and are those responsible again their betrayal of jesus to give credence to the war of genocide conducted in the middleast presently and the consequences of despotism it attempts to enshrine.

To what degree do you personally think that a few relevant points may have been made here:


" Yes, President Trump came up with the term "Washington Swamp" but there is also an "Ottawa Swamp" and if my memory of history serves me properly Sir Winston Churchill termed the "London Swamp" "The High Cabal!"

The industrial base of the USA was DELIBERATELY sold to China by traitors in the Washington Swamp who carried out the rather brilliant but predatory plans of China over the past decades!
....

If you would like to understand what is behind The Washington Swamp then I would suggest the documentary "Why Big Oil Conquered the World?"

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In this documentary you will find out that one of Mr. Al Gore's professors was part of a group that wanted to link the price and supply of oil to the fiat currencies of the world's leading economies. Believe it or not a Carbon Tax accomplishes exactly that at the same time that it APPEARS to go against what you would think are the objectives of Big Oil, but...... Big Oil is actually going after a DEPOPULATED world and less demand on oil so that they can extend their real power over centuries, rather than merely decades!

You need to understand "Neo-Malthusianism" and the move to DEPOPULATE THE WORLD in order to begin to catch onto how bad things really are at the top!

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Post in thread 'Those feigning outrage at Trump re: Greenland/Venezuela/Iran as "disrupting international rules based order", for decades let China/U.N do just that'

Jan 16, 2026

Wow!

Yes, President Trump came up with the term "Washington Swamp" but there is also an "Ottawa Swamp" and if my memory of history serves me properly Sir Winston Churchill termed the "London Swamp" "The High Cabal!"

The industrial base of the USA was DELIBERATELY sold to China by traitors in the Washington Swamp who carried out the rather brilliant but predatory plans of China over the past decades!




If you would like to understand what is behind The Washington Swamp then I would suggest the documentary "Why Big Oil Conquered the World?"

Why Big Oil Conquered the...

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[BreezeWood]

" Yes, President Trump came up with the term "Washington Swamp" but there is also an "Ottawa Swamp" and if my memory of history serves me properly Sir Winston Churchill termed the "London Swamp" "The High Cabal!"

you do realize they voted churchill out of office, they fooled only themself as is the british custom ...

your heroes - trump and reagan - who they really are.

you have a serious calling to make, accusation jesus of being a rabbi - those that murdered him ... you are one of the few i would not offer - glad tidings.

 

[DennisPTate]

you do realize they voted churchill out of office, they fooled only themself as is the british custom ...

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your heroes - trump and reagan - who they really are.

you have a serious calling to make, accusation jesus of being a rabbi - those that murdered him ... you are one of the few i would not offer - glad tidings.

What do you think of the idea that people and groups who attempt to curse the descendants of Abraham will be in serious trouble?

And the Lord said to Abram: Go forth out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and out of thy father's house, and come into the land which I shall shew thee. 2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and magnify thy name, and thou shalt be blessed. 3 I will bless them that bless thee, and curse them that curse thee, and IN THEE shall all the kindred of the earth be blessed:
[Genesis 12 verses one to three]

Douay-Rheims Bible, Genesis Chapter 12

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The phrase "bless Abraham will be blessed" comes from God's covenant promise to Abram (later Abraham) in Genesis 12:1-3, stating God would make him a great nation, bless him, and make him a blessing, and that all peoples on earth would be blessed through him, a promise fulfilled through faith in Jesus Christ for all believers. This promise signifies that God's blessing on Abraham extends beyond physical lineage to a spiritual blessing for all who believe, making them spiritual descendants.

Key aspects of the blessing:

• Divine Call: God called Abram to leave his home for a land He would show him, promising to make him a great nation and bless him.
• A Source of Blessing: God declared, "you will be a blessing," meaning Abraham would be a channel for blessing others.
• Blessing and Cursing: God promised to bless those who bless Abraham and curse those who curse him.
• Universal Scope: "In you all the families of the earth shall be blessed" signifies that the blessing isn't limited to Israel but reaches all nations through faith.
• Spiritual Fulfillment: New Testament writers, like Paul, explain that this blessing is inherited not by physical descent but by faith in Jesus Christ, making believers true spiritual descendants of Abraham

 

[BreezeWood]

What do you think of the idea that people and groups who attempt to curse the descendants of Abraham will be in serious trouble?

those who betray the heavens for their own personal gain ...

provide the proof any of abraham or moses et al were ever spoken to by the heavens.

... their religion of apartheid, false commandments, heavenly persuasions that never occurred.

 

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those who betray the heavens for their own personal gain ...

provide the proof any of abraham or moses et al were ever spoken to by the heavens.

... their religion of apartheid, false commandments, heavenly persuasions that never occurred.

The claims that Judaism is a "religion of apartheid" and based on "phony commandments of servitude and denial" are not supported by the core religious, ethical, and historical tenets of the faith. These descriptions reflect long-standing anti-Semitic tropes rather than the reality of Jewish theology or practice.

• Core Tenets and Ethics: Judaism is fundamentally focused on social justice, the sanctity of human life, and ethical living (often summarized as Tikkun Olam or "repairing the world"). Its foundational principles emphasize empathy, charity (Tzedakah), and kindness toward the stranger, rooted in the biblical command to love one's neighbor.
• Commandments (Mitzvot): The 613 commandments in the Torah are not considered "phony" by practitioners, but rather a guide for establishing a moral society and fostering a connection with the divine. While there are laws regarding servants in the ancient, historical context of the Torah, modern Judaism and its interpretations overwhelmingly focus on human dignity, equality, and liberation, citing the Exodus from Egypt as a primary, defining narrative.
• Distinction from Politics: It is crucial to distinguish between Judaism (the religion) and Zionism or the actions of the State of Israel (political ideologies and actions). While critics often accuse Israeli policies in the occupied territories of resembling apartheid, this is a modern political charge against a nation-state, not a description of the Jewish religion itself. Many Jewish people and organizations actively oppose the occupation and discrimination.
• Anti-Semitic Tropes: Phrases describing Judaism as a religion of "servitude and denial" are recognized as dangerous stereotypes that have historically been used to promote hatred. Such claims often reduce a diverse, global population of millions to a monolith, wrongly attributing political actions to a religious group.

In summary, Judaism teaches that all human beings are created in the divine image, emphasizing, not denying, the worth of all people.

 

[BreezeWood]

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provide the proof any of abraham or moses et al were ever spoken to by the heavens.

... their religion of apartheid, false commandments, heavenly persuasions that never occurred.