GreatestIam
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Will almighty Jesus/Yahweh say that he saved us all, or just some?
As a Gnostic Christian and Universalist when speaking of the supernatural Jesus/Yahweh, I see Jesus as able to save us all. This is not to say that we believe in the supernatural. We do not.
Most Christians though seem to think that many are called but few take the narrow path to heaven while the vast majority, as scriptures say, will take the wide road to hell. I disagree with the bible on this and offer the quotes as to why I do so.
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
If Jesus/Yahweh is all powerful, that would include an all-powerful power of persuasion.
If Jesus would report to Yahweh that he could only save some and not all as scriptures suggest he desires to do, then that would negate being all-powerful and God not being able to do his will, which of course should be ridiculous to theists as God always end in fulfilling his will. So they say.
What do you think Jesus will report? Success in saving us all, as God desires, or failure to do so which would have God unable to do his will?
Regards
DL
As a Gnostic Christian and Universalist when speaking of the supernatural Jesus/Yahweh, I see Jesus as able to save us all. This is not to say that we believe in the supernatural. We do not.
Most Christians though seem to think that many are called but few take the narrow path to heaven while the vast majority, as scriptures say, will take the wide road to hell. I disagree with the bible on this and offer the quotes as to why I do so.
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
If Jesus/Yahweh is all powerful, that would include an all-powerful power of persuasion.
If Jesus would report to Yahweh that he could only save some and not all as scriptures suggest he desires to do, then that would negate being all-powerful and God not being able to do his will, which of course should be ridiculous to theists as God always end in fulfilling his will. So they say.
What do you think Jesus will report? Success in saving us all, as God desires, or failure to do so which would have God unable to do his will?
Regards
DL