Wikileaks reveals WMDs

Karl Rove has said that Bush would not have invaded. No WMDs were found. The evidence for removal to Syria is unverifiable, merely the whinings of people trying to save their lives, and no one of creditability in Israeli intelligence said any such thing based on solid evidence.

The truth, as always, is not in the neo-cons.

Duh. Hussein had months to get rid of the weapons since the US made it pretty clear that they were going to invade.

Also, there were WMD found in Iraq.

Report: Hundreds of WMDs Found in Iraq - U.S. Senate - FOXNews.com

Reading from a declassified portion of a report by the National Ground Intelligence Center, a Defense Department intelligence unit, Santorum said: "Since 2003, coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent. Despite many efforts to locate and destroy Iraq's pre-Gulf War chemical munitions, filled and unfilled pre-Gulf War chemical munitions are assessed to still exist."
 
No, CMike, you are a wierdo neo-con who has lost this argument years ago. You sound like a ninny. Let it go.
 
That he would not have invaded has been documented.

You don't like it, neo-con weirdos: who cares? Truth is truth, and you don't have it.




All you have are insults. Have fun blabbering to yourself.
 
Let's face it, the US invaded iraq because any other country would have kicked its arse. No wait! That happened anyways.
 
Let's take it slow so even Jakey could understand.

This is President's Bush's own words of why we went into Iraq.

1) By breaking every pledge — be his deceptions, and by his cruelties — Saddam Hussein has made the case again himself.

2) Last year, the U.N. Commission on Human rights found that Iraq continues to commit "extremely grave violations" of human rights and that the regime's repression is "all pervasive."

3) In 1991, the U.N. Security Council, through Resolutions 686 and 687, demanded that Iraq return all prisoners from Kuwait and other lands. Iraq's regime agreed. It broke its promise

4) Iraq continues to shelter and support terrorist organization that direct violence against Iran, Israel, and Western governments. Iraqi dissidents abroad are targeted for murder. In 1993, Iraq attempted to assassinate the Emir of Kuwait and a former American President. Iraq's government openly praised the attacks of September 11th. And al-Qaida terrorists escaped from Afghanistan are known to be in Iraq.

5) In 1991, the Iraqi regime agreed to destroy and stop developing all weapons of mass destruction and long-range missiles, and to prove to the world it has done so by complying with rigorous inspections. Iraq has broken every aspect of this fundamental pledge.

6) After a senior official in its weapons program defected and exposed this lie, the regime admitted to producing tens of thousands of liters of anthrax and other deadly biological agents for use with Scud warheads, aerial bombs, and aircraft spray tanks. U.N. inspectors believe Iraq has produced two to four times the amount of biological agents it declared, and has failed to account for more than three metric tons of material that could be used to produce biological weapons. Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons.

7) United Nations inspections also reveal that Iraq likely maintains stockpiles of VX, mustard, and other chemical agents, and that the regime is rebuilding and expanding facilities capable of producing chemical weapons.

8) Iraq finally admitted it had a crash nuclear weapons program prior to the Gulf War. We know now, were it not for that war, the regime in Iraq would likely have possessed a nuclear weapon no later than 1993.

9) Today, Iraq continues to withhold important information about its unclear program — weapons design, procurement logs, experiment data, an accounting of nuclear materials, and documentation of foreign assistance.

10) In 1991, Iraq promised U.N. inspectors immediate and unrestricted access to verify Iraq's commitment to rid itself of weapons of mass destruction and long-range missiles. Iraq broke this promise, spending seven years deceiving, evading and harassing U.N.

11) Saddam Hussein's regime is a grave and gathering danger. To suggest otherwise is to hope against the evidence. To assume this regime's good faith is to bet the lives of millions and the peace of the world in a reckless gamble. And this is a risk we must not take

There are 11 reasons that Pres. Bush gave of why we went into Iraq.

Also, the reports are that they were moved to Syria, looted, and there were WMD found, which I have shown.
 
Show me where the Bush administration agreed with you before it left office. Show me where Rove said that Bush would not have invaded Iraq if he had know that it did not have WMDs.

Do those two things.
 
I don't care what Rove said or didn't say.

I posted the speech that gave the reasons that we invaded Iraq.

No where in the speech did Pres Bush say that if WMD were not found he wouldn't have invaded as you said.
 
CMike, history is ongoing. It does not stop. History invalidates your conclusions. Thanks for getting it out there; I appreciate it.
 
CMike, history is ongoing. It does not stop. History invalidates your conclusions. Thanks for getting it out there; I appreciate it.
yet you still dont get it
you are totally batshit crazy insane delusional
 
The fact is that history disproves CMike's thesis and divecon's support. Guys, faith does not outweigh works, and in this case the work of history moves CMike's argument over the cliff of despair into the lake of forgotten.
 
I stated the facts in context you chose to ignore it...again.:cuckoo::eusa_liar::eusa_hand::eusa_drool:
 
The fact is that history disproves CMike's thesis and divecon's support. Guys, faith does not outweigh works, and in this case the work of history moves CMike's argument over the cliff of despair into the lake of forgotten.
wrong again
and its "faith without works is dead"
you are dead inside
 
CMike, et al,

These judgments were made (back then) on either 10 year old intelligence, fraudulent information, or faked claims. The logic was based on a broken National Security Decision Making process which corrupted the Military Decision Making Processes.

Let's take it slow so even Jakey could understand.

This is President's Bush's own words of why we went into Iraq.

1) By breaking every pledge — be his deceptions, and by his cruelties — Saddam Hussein has made the case again himself.

2) Last year, the U.N. Commission on Human rights found that Iraq continues to commit "extremely grave violations" of human rights and that the regime's repression is "all pervasive."

3) In 1991, the U.N. Security Council, through Resolutions 686 and 687, demanded that Iraq return all prisoners from Kuwait and other lands. Iraq's regime agreed. It broke its promise

4) Iraq continues to shelter and support terrorist organization that direct violence against Iran, Israel, and Western governments. Iraqi dissidents abroad are targeted for murder. In 1993, Iraq attempted to assassinate the Emir of Kuwait and a former American President. Iraq's government openly praised the attacks of September 11th. And al-Qaida terrorists escaped from Afghanistan are known to be in Iraq.

5) In 1991, the Iraqi regime agreed to destroy and stop developing all weapons of mass destruction and long-range missiles, and to prove to the world it has done so by complying with rigorous inspections. Iraq has broken every aspect of this fundamental pledge.

6) After a senior official in its weapons program defected and exposed this lie, the regime admitted to producing tens of thousands of liters of anthrax and other deadly biological agents for use with Scud warheads, aerial bombs, and aircraft spray tanks. U.N. inspectors believe Iraq has produced two to four times the amount of biological agents it declared, and has failed to account for more than three metric tons of material that could be used to produce biological weapons. Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons.

7) United Nations inspections also reveal that Iraq likely maintains stockpiles of VX, mustard, and other chemical agents, and that the regime is rebuilding and expanding facilities capable of producing chemical weapons.

8) Iraq finally admitted it had a crash nuclear weapons program prior to the Gulf War. We know now, were it not for that war, the regime in Iraq would likely have possessed a nuclear weapon no later than 1993.

9) Today, Iraq continues to withhold important information about its unclear program — weapons design, procurement logs, experiment data, an accounting of nuclear materials, and documentation of foreign assistance.

10) In 1991, Iraq promised U.N. inspectors immediate and unrestricted access to verify Iraq's commitment to rid itself of weapons of mass destruction and long-range missiles. Iraq broke this promise, spending seven years deceiving, evading and harassing U.N.

11) Saddam Hussein's regime is a grave and gathering danger. To suggest otherwise is to hope against the evidence. To assume this regime's good faith is to bet the lives of millions and the peace of the world in a reckless gamble. And this is a risk we must not take

There are 11 reasons that Pres. Bush gave of why we went into Iraq.

Also, the reports are that they were moved to Syria, looted, and there were WMD found, which I have shown.
(COMMENT)

The decade old rumors and innuendoes that Saddam sent his best weapons agains an Allied Invasion to Syria just doesn't make any sense at all and completely defeated the purpose of the weapons if they had them.

The fact that we found some degraded, non-lethal remnants for the Iran-Iraq War is immaterial. Information Fog used by WMD Supporters to justify the military intervention.

The humanitarian arguments are merely propaganda dressing. The US never considered that as a "reason" to invade.

The reasons were much simpler than this complex subterfuge.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
15th post
What he said. :lol: Divecon and CMike, are you wrong, flatly. Admit it, and let's move on.
 
CMike, et al,

These judgments were made (back then) on either 10 year old intelligence, fraudulent information, or faked claims. The logic was based on a broken National Security Decision Making process which corrupted the Military Decision Making Processes.

Let's take it slow so even Jakey could understand.

This is President's Bush's own words of why we went into Iraq.

1) By breaking every pledge — be his deceptions, and by his cruelties — Saddam Hussein has made the case again himself.

2) Last year, the U.N. Commission on Human rights found that Iraq continues to commit "extremely grave violations" of human rights and that the regime's repression is "all pervasive."

3) In 1991, the U.N. Security Council, through Resolutions 686 and 687, demanded that Iraq return all prisoners from Kuwait and other lands. Iraq's regime agreed. It broke its promise

4) Iraq continues to shelter and support terrorist organization that direct violence against Iran, Israel, and Western governments. Iraqi dissidents abroad are targeted for murder. In 1993, Iraq attempted to assassinate the Emir of Kuwait and a former American President. Iraq's government openly praised the attacks of September 11th. And al-Qaida terrorists escaped from Afghanistan are known to be in Iraq.

5) In 1991, the Iraqi regime agreed to destroy and stop developing all weapons of mass destruction and long-range missiles, and to prove to the world it has done so by complying with rigorous inspections. Iraq has broken every aspect of this fundamental pledge.

6) After a senior official in its weapons program defected and exposed this lie, the regime admitted to producing tens of thousands of liters of anthrax and other deadly biological agents for use with Scud warheads, aerial bombs, and aircraft spray tanks. U.N. inspectors believe Iraq has produced two to four times the amount of biological agents it declared, and has failed to account for more than three metric tons of material that could be used to produce biological weapons. Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons.

7) United Nations inspections also reveal that Iraq likely maintains stockpiles of VX, mustard, and other chemical agents, and that the regime is rebuilding and expanding facilities capable of producing chemical weapons.

8) Iraq finally admitted it had a crash nuclear weapons program prior to the Gulf War. We know now, were it not for that war, the regime in Iraq would likely have possessed a nuclear weapon no later than 1993.

9) Today, Iraq continues to withhold important information about its unclear program — weapons design, procurement logs, experiment data, an accounting of nuclear materials, and documentation of foreign assistance.

10) In 1991, Iraq promised U.N. inspectors immediate and unrestricted access to verify Iraq's commitment to rid itself of weapons of mass destruction and long-range missiles. Iraq broke this promise, spending seven years deceiving, evading and harassing U.N.

11) Saddam Hussein's regime is a grave and gathering danger. To suggest otherwise is to hope against the evidence. To assume this regime's good faith is to bet the lives of millions and the peace of the world in a reckless gamble. And this is a risk we must not take

There are 11 reasons that Pres. Bush gave of why we went into Iraq.

Also, the reports are that they were moved to Syria, looted, and there were WMD found, which I have shown.
(COMMENT)

The decade old rumors and innuendoes that Saddam sent his best weapons agains an Allied Invasion to Syria just doesn't make any sense at all and completely defeated the purpose of the weapons if they had them.

The fact that we found some degraded, non-lethal remnants for the Iran-Iraq War is immaterial. Information Fog used by WMD Supporters to justify the military intervention.

The humanitarian arguments are merely propaganda dressing. The US never considered that as a "reason" to invade.

The reasons were much simpler than this complex subterfuge.

Most Respectfully,
R
you are massively wrong
 
For some reason they think that their own opinion is proof:cuckoo:

Prove that the 11 points are incorrect.

Prove that the chief of Israeli counterintelligence and Sada were wrong.

Prove that the 500 chemical weapons found in Iraq were not WMD.

Opinion is not proof .
 
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