Wikileak'd video shows eager-to-kill troops firing on Reuters reporters and children

[geauxtohell]

Oh well if you say so.........lol.

You just saw it too, didn't you?

BTW, the pilots requested, and were cleared, to fire upon seeing the AK-47. Whatever their ROE was, it allowed for that.

It wasn't until they saw what they thought was an RPG (but was most likely a camera lens) that the issue became urgent.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Now do the painfully predictable and ignore the fact the pilots killed unarmed civilians.

Guess what dipshit? Those unarmed civilians were in the company of armed insurgents in an area that was being cleared by infantry troops who had been receiving small arms fire and was supported by 2 attack helicopters. Too bad for them that they wanted to run with the bad boys that day. It's called war and if you are going to be that stupid then pay the consequences. Can you understand S H I T - H A P P E N S ?

You can paint it and twist it and spin it any way you want but the group was armed with offensive weapons.

There isn't a single weapon visible in the video. The only shooting happening is the pilots killing unarmed civilians.

Now my eyes may not be as sharp as they used to be but I saw weapons in the video, and weapons were reported found among the bodies by the infantry troops who cleared the area. So again twist it and spin it any way you want, you are wrong.
And everyone on this thread knows that you are wrong.

 

[geauxtohell]

Now my eyes may not be as sharp as they used to be but I saw weapons in the video, and weapons were reported found among the bodies by the infantry troops who cleared the area. So again twist it and spin it any way you want, you are wrong.
And everyone on this thread knows that you are wrong.

It's impossible to miss the guys with AK 47s in the beginning of the video (right after the camera is highlighted on the reporter).

Even the untrained eye can easily spot them. I can even tell the guy is carrying it by the handle with the muzzle pointed at his foot.

Bentdick, no doubt, sees them too. But admitting that you are wrong is painful on the internet.

 

[RadiomanATL]

You don't have to use the report button *****. Did you ever figure out your missing footage or are you still hoping you can use that to hide behind the fact the pilots killed unarmed civilians?

So backed into putting up proof or shutting the **** up, you decide to backpedal like a ************. Figures you lying sack of shit.

I proved that there was missing footage repeatedly. Putting your fingers in your ears and denying it does not constitute counter-proof. You lose. Again.

Lol....I didn't backpedal on anything you whiny *****.

Bullshit. You complained about me going and whining to the mods. I said prove it, you have yet to do so because it has never happened.

Keep backpedaling you dumb shit.

 

[geauxtohell]

So backed into putting up proof or shutting the **** up, you decide to backpedal like a ************. Figures you lying sack of shit.

I proved that there was missing footage repeatedly. Putting your fingers in your ears and denying it does not constitute counter-proof. You lose. Again.

Lol....I didn't backpedal on anything you whiny *****.

Bullshit. You complained about me going and whining to the mods. I said prove it, you have yet to do so because it has never happened.

Keep backpedaling you dumb shit.

Wow. Now bentdick has reduced himself to lying about lying. That's like a lie^2.

 

[RadiomanATL]

Lol....I didn't backpedal on anything you whiny *****.

Bullshit. You complained about me going and whining to the mods. I said prove it, you have yet to do so because it has never happened.

Keep backpedaling you dumb shit.

Wow. Now bentdick has reduced himself to lying about lying. That's like a lie^2.

The dumbshit lies about lying so much that he can't keep straight what he hasn't lied about which lies he has lied about.

 

[geauxtohell]

Bullshit. You complained about me going and whining to the mods. I said prove it, you have yet to do so because it has never happened.

Keep backpedaling you dumb shit.

Wow. Now bentdick has reduced himself to lying about lying. That's like a lie^2.

The dumbshit lies about lying so much that he can't keep straight what he hasn't lied about which lies he has lied about.

I am not a big fan of cheering sections, but it's been a long time since I've seen someone get so assed up in a thread.

It would take a normal person a special sort of talent to keep this kind of idiocy running.

 

[RadiomanATL]

I would take a normal person a special sort of talent to keep this kind of idiocy running.

CL isn't normal.

He'll keep the stupidity coming, no fear. He doesn't know when to shut up and bow out.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

At 53 seconds into this video.

YouTube - WikiLeaks raw US Apache footage

The pilots ID'd it too, you know those guys whose job you think you can do a better job than?

In fact, you can see two people with AKs. If you can't see it, then you need to get your eyes checked.

That would tend to support what the guys on the ground found.



Hey, jackass, you can't have it both ways. You can't claim "I am only going to go with what's on the video!" and then mock people for pointing out what is on the video to you.



Only it does. I can't ID an RPG in the video clearly, but you can clearly see Ak-47s.

Of course, it only makes sense that you'd dismiss the Army report as a conspiracy.

53 seconds in...irrefutable proof there is an AK 47 folder...no doubt.

Oh well if you say so.........lol.

Radioasswipe and crimsoncunt has been whining endlessly about the video being edited. After they post some evidence of missing footage they fail to address the fact the break in the video doesn't happen until long after the civilians had already been shot and killed.

So tell us you fuxxing **** whiners....what does missing footage have to do with the civilians being shot since the video doesn't break until after 15 minutes of Bravo company walking around their dead bodies?

Yes I say so.....and I'm right. Thanks for agreeing finally.

 

[DiveCon]

YouTube - Wikileaks video shows eager-to-kill troops firing on Reuters reporters and children

Sorry, but that looked to me like a successful engagement of insurgents. It sucks that the reporter was killed and it sucks even worse that they were trying to remove bodies and weapons in a hot zone with kids in the car. But when you bring your kids to war, what do you expect?

I feel for the guys that had to pull the trigger. They laughed in the video, but keep in mind where their adrenaline level was at that moment. They were pumped up. They have to be to pull the trigger. The problems start when they come down. I feel for these guys for they had to do. It is despicable, yes, but necessary.

BTW, I bet that douchenozzle armchair warrior in your video has the high score on Call of Duty 4.

thats Alex Jones

 

[CurveLight]

So backed into putting up proof or shutting the **** up, you decide to backpedal like a ************. Figures you lying sack of shit.

I proved that there was missing footage repeatedly. Putting your fingers in your ears and denying it does not constitute counter-proof. You lose. Again.

Lol....I didn't backpedal on anything you whiny *****.

Bullshit. You complained about me going and whining to the mods. I said prove it, you have yet to do so because it has never happened.

Keep backpedaling you dumb shit.

You proved it in your first response you dumfuk. It's sad you are too stoopid to even realize you did it.

So tell us what difference the missing footage makes since the break in the video wasn't until after the civilians were killed? Surely there must be something really important about it since you spent so much time whining. So what is it dumfuk? What's the big tamale?

 

[CurveLight]

Now my eyes may not be as sharp as they used to be but I saw weapons in the video, and weapons were reported found among the bodies by the infantry troops who cleared the area. So again twist it and spin it any way you want, you are wrong.
And everyone on this thread knows that you are wrong.

It's impossible to miss the guys with AK 47s in the beginning of the video (right after the camera is highlighted on the reporter).

Even the untrained eye can easily spot them. I can even tell the guy is carrying it by the handle with the muzzle pointed at his foot.

Bentdick, no doubt, sees them too. But admitting that you are wrong is painful on the internet.

Did you do the measurements you dumfuk? Do you even know how to do that? Of course not. You can lie and whine you see an ak and you've got no shortage of dumfuk liars in your ilk but that doesn't change the fact there is not a single weapon visible in the video. (gee...it will be so shocking when the responses will be nothing but name calling and accusations of lying....but that's what punks like you love to do)

 

[geauxtohell]

Did you do the measurements you dumfuk? Do you even know how to do that? Of course not.

Is this more mystical military magic that only you know how to do? Were you trained in it? Strange that the Corps would train you in something that you would never do, since your job gave you zero blade time.

What do your magical measurements tell you they are? Let me guess: camera tripods.

I think I'll go with what I see and the pilot's trained eyes on the matter.

You can lie and whine you see an ak and you've got no shortage of dumfuk liars in your ilk but that doesn't change the fact there is not a single weapon visible in the video.

Oh, so now it's a "lie". Sorry jerkoff, I know what a ******* AK looks like. If you don't see two AKs, you need to get your ******* eyes fixed. Or your brain, as I suspect that's where the defect lies.

(gee...it will be so shocking when the responses will be nothing but name calling and accusations of lying....but that's what punks like you love to do)

You lost any high ground on name calling a long time ago, so stop whining about it now you ******* pogue.

No one on here takes anything you say seriously. Frankly, I have no clue what your position is anymore. First it was that this was a slaughter, then it was that "well, they had guns, but 75% of the people they engaged were innocent!" and now it's I never saw any guns on the video, that means their were no guns!" I honestly don't think you give a **** about the incident at large, you are just one of those people that can't admit fault or being wrong in any degree.

You are a ******* joke. Like I said, thank God you aren't in a position to get soldiers and Marines ******* killed with you dumb-assed notions.

BTW, notice how this incident has died down? I suspect that the journalists started to investigate the entire thing (and not just the tape) and realized that this was a legitimate engagement.

 

[CurveLight]

Did you do the measurements you dumfuk? Do you even know how to do that? Of course not.

Is this more mystical military magic that only you know how to do? Were you trained in it? Strange that the Corps would train you in something that you would never do, since your job gave you zero blade time.

What do your magical measurements tell you they are? Let me guess: camera tripods.

I think I'll go with what I see and the pilot's trained eyes on the matter.

You can lie and whine you see an ak and you've got no shortage of dumfuk liars in your ilk but that doesn't change the fact there is not a single weapon visible in the video.

Oh, so now it's a "lie". Sorry jerkoff, I know what a ******* AK looks like. If you don't see two AKs, you need to get your ******* eyes fixed. Or your brain, as I suspect that's where the defect lies.

(gee...it will be so shocking when the responses will be nothing but name calling and accusations of lying....but that's what punks like you love to do)

You lost any high ground on name calling a long time ago, so stop whining about it now you ******* pogue.

No one on here takes anything you say seriously. Frankly, I have no clue what your position is anymore. First it was that this was a slaughter, then it was that "well, they had guns, but 75% of the people they engaged were innocent!" and now it's I never saw any guns on the video, that means their were no guns!" I honestly don't think you give a **** about the incident at large, you are just one of those people that can't admit fault or being wrong in any degree.

You are a ******* joke. Like I said, thank God you aren't in a position to get soldiers and Marines ******* killed with you dumb-assed notions.

BTW, notice how this incident has died down? I suspect that the journalists started to investigate the entire thing (and not just the tape) and realized that this was a legitimate engagement.

You're a stoopid whiny dishonest ****. What I said was "even if it is correct there were weapons......" Predictably pathetic you would ignore that to try and score points you ate up dikwad.

The measurements can be done with common sense but since you don't know how then you hype up a strawman to compensate for your stoopidity. Your pic matches perfectly with your whiny posts and we regularly ***** slapped punks like you for a hobby because you always needed a babysitter. Keep on lying, keep on whining, and keep on pretending you know my experiences strictly from my mos you fuxxing useless ****.

 

[geauxtohell]

You're a stoopid whiny dishonest ****. What I said was "even if it is correct there were weapons......" Predictably pathetic you would ignore that to try and score points you ate up dikwad.

Blah, blah, ******* blah.

The measurements can be done with common sense but since you don't know how then you hype up a strawman to compensate for your stoopidity.

Oh, so is this a real thing or just another military tactic that you made up but the pilots should have done? By my eye, the weapon looks to be the exact shape and measurement of an AK-47 without a stock being held be the handle.

Your pic matches perfectly with your whiny posts and we regularly ***** slapped punks like you for a hobby because you always needed a babysitter. Keep on lying, keep on whining, and keep on pretending you know my experiences strictly from my mos you fuxxing useless ****.

Who is the "we"? You already gave us your MOS. We already know you were a REMF. Nothing more needs to be said about the matter. You conveniently backed off given any information about "similar situations" that you were in.

 

[CurveLight]

You're a stoopid whiny dishonest ****. What I said was "even if it is correct there were weapons......" Predictably pathetic you would ignore that to try and score points you ate up dikwad.

Blah, blah, ******* blah.

The measurements can be done with common sense but since you don't know how then you hype up a strawman to compensate for your stoopidity.

Oh, so is this a real thing or just another military tactic that you made up but the pilots should have done? By my eye, the weapon looks to be the exact shape and measurement of an AK-47 without a stock being held be the handle.

Your pic matches perfectly with your whiny posts and we regularly ***** slapped punks like you for a hobby because you always needed a babysitter. Keep on lying, keep on whining, and keep on pretending you know my experiences strictly from my mos you fuxxing useless ****.

Who is the "we"? You already gave us your MOS. We already know you were a REMF. Nothing more needs to be said about the matter. You conveniently backed off given any information about "similar situations" that you were in.

Are you late for a tampon change *****? Arrogant punks like you are a fuxxing joke. You've never addressed basic facts like the EOF nor the situation itself. You're paralyzed by fear which is why dickheads like you can watch unarmed people being needlessly killed because you don't have the courage to look at the situation and say "We totally fucked up." You actually blame iraqi for being in iraq for being killed by extremely poor judgment calls. You look at this shit then wonder why the US has had such a hard time settling into a semi-fucked up occupation.

 

[Nonelitist]

They were armed.

Army investigation found multiple weapons.

Innocents sometimes die in war

pilots had no idea children were in van

you are an idiot.

 

[germanguy]

Perhaps just step back everybody:

After watching the video I can say the following:

1. What you see is - more or less - a gunship opening fire on people on the ground.
2. What you not see is the situation on the ground and the background of the whole situation.

Conclusion:
We see what we want:
Either a slaughter of trigger-happy GIs or the responsible use of gunpower in a dangerous suurounding.

The whole problem is and will ever be in any military operation against combattants without any regular military structure, that you can not properly separate friend and foe.
Therefore any anti-terror operation will never smell of roses.

We either accept this, or shall shut up and go home and let other people do this kind of job.

The other side is, that we have to expect, that we do not send our sons and daughters in unhonorable wars.

Or to put it otherwise: Are we doing the right thing and are we doing the right thing right.

Regards
ze germanguy

 

[SFC Ollie]

You're a stoopid whiny dishonest ****. What I said was "even if it is correct there were weapons......" Predictably pathetic you would ignore that to try and score points you ate up dikwad.

Blah, blah, ******* blah.



Oh, so is this a real thing or just another military tactic that you made up but the pilots should have done? By my eye, the weapon looks to be the exact shape and measurement of an AK-47 without a stock being held be the handle.

Your pic matches perfectly with your whiny posts and we regularly ***** slapped punks like you for a hobby because you always needed a babysitter. Keep on lying, keep on whining, and keep on pretending you know my experiences strictly from my mos you fuxxing useless ****.

Who is the "we"? You already gave us your MOS. We already know you were a REMF. Nothing more needs to be said about the matter. You conveniently backed off given any information about "similar situations" that you were in.

Are you late for a tampon change *****? Arrogant punks like you are a fuxxing joke. You've never addressed basic facts like the EOF nor the situation itself. You're paralyzed by fear which is why dickheads like you can watch unarmed people being needlessly killed because you don't have the courage to look at the situation and say "We totally fucked up." You actually blame iraqi for being in iraq for being killed by extremely poor judgment calls. You look at this shit then wonder why the US has had such a hard time settling into a semi-fucked up occupation.

 

[CurveLight]

Perhaps just step back everybody:

After watching the video I can say the following:

1. What you see is - more or less - a gunship opening fire on people on the ground.
2. What you not see is the situation on the ground and the background of the whole situation.

Conclusion:
We see what we want:
Either a slaughter of trigger-happy GIs or the responsible use of gunpower in a dangerous suurounding.

The whole problem is and will ever be in any military operation against combattants without any regular military structure, that you can not properly separate friend and foe.
Therefore any anti-terror operation will never smell of roses.

We either accept this, or shall shut up and go home and let other people do this kind of job.

The other side is, that we have to expect, that we do not send our sons and daughters in unhonorable wars.

Or to put it otherwise: Are we doing the right thing and are we doing the right thing right.

Regards
ze germanguy

The pilots did not follow EOF.

Our troops were not under fire.

The only shooters were the pilots.

The civilians made no hostile moves at all.

There were other options available but were ignored because of trigger happy pilots. Ie. One pilot was begging to engage....