Why the Second Amendment may be losing relevance in gun debate

[westwall]

Incorrect and based on fantasy.

Wind the clock back to1776, that would have been the first war America would have lost because as America was losing, America needed the French to step in, so get your history right. The second thing is, 1776 wasn't over guns.

America's police shoot so many citizens because the 2nd Amendment has created a violent culture, so if it moves or farts, shoot 350 bullets then ask questions.

Those with guns who are willing to shoot their neighbour are the irresponsible ones and anyone who believes their government will go tyrannical etc.. needs locked up in a padded institution for their safety.

You are still pissed you can't tax us to death, and use us up in your foreign wars!


DURRRRRR

 

[Captain Caveman]

You are still passed you can't tax us to death, and use us up in your foreign wars!


DURRRRRR

Passed? Are you pissed!! lol

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It's under the heading, "More shootings in the asylum"

 

[westwall]

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It's under the heading, "More shootings in the asylum"

Good. How about your mass shootings going on in jolly old England?

Seems you have had a raft of them. And every anti gun law on the books too.

DURRRRRR

 

[Captain Caveman]

westwall , In Jolly England? Heavens, we have less in decades than America has in a week or two.

I've been to Jolly America a number of times, have you been to Jolly England?

 

[Rigby5]

Stop electing Republicans.

Democrats are just as abusive, such as Hillary pushing her Arab Spring, invasion of Iraq, murder of Qaddafi, attacks on Assad, etc.
Bill Clinton is guilty of the Federal Crime Act, with the War on Drugs, 3 strikes, and many other illegal crimes.
Johnson has Vietnam.

 

[Rigby5]

Lots of problems with our criminal justice system, but your accusation of murdering political prisoners is, like most of your crap, batshit crazy.

Shooting a Black person who is unarmed, is murdering political prisoners
Are you going to claim the police don't do that any more?

 

[Rigby5]

Incorrect and based on fantasy.

Wind the clock back to1776, that would have been the first war America would have lost because as America was losing, America needed the French to step in, so get your history right. The second thing is, 1776 wasn't over guns.

America's police shoot so many citizens because the 2nd Amendment has created a violent culture, so if it moves or farts, shoot 350 bullets then ask questions.

Those with guns who are willing to shoot their neighbour are the irresponsible ones and anyone who believes their government will go tyrannical etc.. needs locked up in a padded institution for their safety.

Wrong.
The American Revolution in 1776 was not over guns, but if not for the gun nuts, we would have lost.
The French helped, but only for naval blockade so Cornwallis could not escape by ship.

The police shooting so many people has nothing at all to do with the number of guns.
The police routinely shoot and kill unarmed people trying to escape.
It is entirely the fault of the police themselves.
The police entirely cause all the crime by their illegal War on Drugs, which not only entices people into crime, but ensures such large amounts of cash that gun violence is ensured, just like Prohibition caused a huge spike in the number of guns and murders.

Gun culture people make it safer for police because they do not need to get called nearly as often, and gun nuts never attack police.

Anyone who does not realize ALL governments always go tyrannical, is just incredibly ignorant of history.

 

[westwall]

westwall , In Jolly England? Heavens, we have less in decades than America has in a week or two.

I've been to Jolly America a number of times, have you been to Jolly England?

Yeah, but you are catching up. Bigly. Other than gun crimes you guys are waaaay more violent than we are.

 

[Cecilie1200]

What's going to allow gun control is that few of young men hunt or shoot these days. They're all playing video games.

58% of NRA membership is over retirement age. Give it another 20-30 years and gun rights won't disappear with a bang, they'll disappear with a whimper.

I think you need to get a lot more current on what's happening with gun rights and gun ownership in America. That whole "Gun rights is all about hunters and the NRA" crap is so badly out-of-date, I'm just flabbergasted that someone is out-of-touch enough to still be prattling it.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

You're nuts. Gun nuttery is a recent malady. It will eventually pass like bell bottom pants.

We should certainly hope so.

The vast majority of gunowners are mature, responsible adults, unlike the childish conservatives posting their lies and demagoguery in this thread.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Democrats are just as abusive, such as Hillary pushing her Arab Spring, invasion of Iraq, murder of Qaddafi, attacks on Assad, etc.
Bill Clinton is guilty of the Federal Crime Act, with the War on Drugs, 3 strikes, and many other illegal crimes.
Johnson has Vietnam.

The neo-fascist authoritarian right presents the greatest threat to our rights and protected liberties – not the Federal government.

Or more precisely, it’s Republican elected officials who are fomenting government tyranny.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Passed? Are you pissed!! lol

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It's under the heading, "More shootings in the asylum"

Hey, you can sit and piss and moan that your country became irrelevant without bothering your betters with it. Try that.

 

[BULLDOG]

Shooting a Black person who is unarmed, is murdering political prisoners
Are you going to claim the police don't do that any more?

Of course they do it, but it's not political.

 

[westwall]

The neo-fascist authoritarian right presents the greatest threat to our rights and protected liberties – not the Federal government.

Or more precisely, it’s Republican elected officials who are fomenting government tyranny.

Says the idiot fascist.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Says the idiot fascist.

Soon a conservative, Republican appointed Supreme Court will rule to increase the authority of the state at the expense of individual liberty.

And when that happens, Republican elected officials will enact measures to further violate the rights and protected liberties of the people.

The neo-fascist authoritarian right presents the greatest threat to our rights and protected liberties – not the Federal government.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Wrong.
The American Revolution in 1776 was not over guns, but if not for the gun nuts, we would have lost.
The French helped, but only for naval blockade so Cornwallis could not escape by ship.

The police shooting so many people has nothing at all to do with the number of guns.
The police routinely shoot and kill unarmed people trying to escape.
It is entirely the fault of the police themselves.
The police entirely cause all the crime by their illegal War on Drugs, which not only entices people into crime, but ensures such large amounts of cash that gun violence is ensured, just like Prohibition caused a huge spike in the number of guns and murders.

Gun culture people make it safer for police because they do not need to get called nearly as often, and gun nuts never attack police.

Anyone who does not realize ALL governments always go tyrannical, is just incredibly ignorant of history.

As I've previously said, 1776 wasn't over guns, and irrelevant if you had gun nuts or not, the French saved your arses. And what's more, those pre 1776 are grateful you are personally taking credit

American cops are gun crazy because the public are gun crazy, it's that simple. If people are trying to escape, then they're not a threat, why shoot them? Because American cops and citizens are gun crazy.

Gun culture people do not make it safer because they're willing to shoot their neighbour, you can't get more opposite than safe than that!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You tell me, since 1776, which government in the US and UK have gone tyrannical?

 

[westwall]

As I've previously said, 1776 wasn't over guns, and irrelevant if you had gun nuts or not, the French saved your arses. And what's more, those pre 1776 are grateful you are personally taking credit

American cops are gun crazy because the public are gun crazy, it's that simple. If people are trying to escape, then they're not a threat, why shoot them? Because American cops and citizens are gun crazy.

Gun culture people do not make it safer because they're willing to shoot their neighbour, you can't get more opposite than safe than that!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You tell me, since 1776, which government in the US and UK have gone tyrannical?

Both have. It has taken the USA longer to get to where the UK already is.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Both have. It has taken the USA longer to get to where the UK already is.

If you understand the subject, you would know that only North Korea, Iran, Cuba, Myanmar, and Belarus are Tyrannical governments.

 

[westwall]

If you understand the subject, you would know that only North Korea, Iran, Cuba, Myanmar, and Belarus are Tyrannical governments.

Wrong. Those are simply the worst examples, but all governments are tyrannical to a degree.

They have to be.

The problems arise when the leaders get too greedy for wealth and power.

As we are seeing worldwide.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Wrong. Those are simply the worst examples, but all governments are tyrannical to a degree.

They have to be.

The problems arise when the leaders get too greedy for wealth and power.

As we are seeing worldwide.

Greedy is not the criteria to what makes a government tyrannical.