Why the left wing embraces radical muslim terrorists....

[Tommy Tainant]

It's almost cute watching them fall all over themselves to perform in exactly the ways as described and then immediately deny they have just done so.

If not for the fact there are so many of them and they are rank and file members of a major political party, they WOULD be cute. As is, they are merely dangerous subversives undermining western liberalism.

It happens all the time. They know what they're doing and they understandably get angry when that mirror is shoved in their face.

So, as we see on this thread, the distortions, misrepresentations and personal attacks begin.

Once they've identified a group as "oppressed", this is what happens.

They think they're "defending" the "oppressed". And they will do it regardless of the consequences.
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Have you noticed the personal attacks in posts coming from your own side? Distortions? Misrepresentations? So we are now dangerous subversives?

What's my side?

And I've said you're "dangerous subversives"?

Come on. Maybe react to stuff I actually say. This is silly.
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Well you pointed out how the insults and personal attacks start coming from the left in a general way.

The proponents of your view seem to be doing the same....”moronic usefull idiots”really?

I get tired of constantly seeing what I say deliberately misrepresented as supporting terrorists, killing gays and abusing women. It effectively ends discourse doesn’t it?

Of course, both ends love to distort and misrepresent. Hence the first line of my sig.

I'm in another conversation right now with right wingers who refuse to admit what happened in the Meltdown of 2008 for purely partisan political reasons, and they're getting personal too. Opposite sides of the same coin. I'm just not required to either participate or enable.
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You make claims and cant back them up. How can that be misrepresented ?

 

[Mac1958]

It happens all the time. They know what they're doing and they understandably get angry when that mirror is shoved in their face.

So, as we see on this thread, the distortions, misrepresentations and personal attacks begin.

Once they've identified a group as "oppressed", this is what happens.

They think they're "defending" the "oppressed". And they will do it regardless of the consequences.
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Have you noticed the personal attacks in posts coming from your own side? Distortions? Misrepresentations? So we are now dangerous subversives?

What's my side?

And I've said you're "dangerous subversives"?

Come on. Maybe react to stuff I actually say. This is silly.
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Well you pointed out how the insults and personal attacks start coming from the left in a general way.

The proponents of your view seem to be doing the same....”moronic usefull idiots”really?

I get tired of constantly seeing what I say deliberately misrepresented as supporting terrorists, killing gays and abusing women. It effectively ends discourse doesn’t it?

Of course, both ends love to distort and misrepresent. Hence the first line of my sig.

I'm in another conversation right now with right wingers who refuse to admit what happened in the Meltdown of 2008 for purely partisan political reasons, and they're getting personal too. Opposite sides of the same coin. I'm just not required to either participate or enable.
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You make claims and cant back them up. How can that be misrepresented ?

If you want to pretend that I can't back them up, great. Whatever works for you.

The fact is that I don't bother, because I know how the game is played. I'll be happy to provide the graphical representation that I provided earlier of how the game is played, if you'd like.

You can keep whining about it, or just deal with it.
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[Tommy Tainant]

Have you noticed the personal attacks in posts coming from your own side? Distortions? Misrepresentations? So we are now dangerous subversives?

What's my side?

And I've said you're "dangerous subversives"?

Come on. Maybe react to stuff I actually say. This is silly.
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l
Well you pointed out how the insults and personal attacks start coming from the left in a general way.

The proponents of your view seem to be doing the same....”moronic usefull idiots”really?

I get tired of constantly seeing what I say deliberately misrepresented as supporting terrorists, killing gays and abusing women. It effectively ends discourse doesn’t it?

Of course, both ends love to distort and misrepresent. Hence the first line of my sig.

I'm in another conversation right now with right wingers who refuse to admit what happened in the Meltdown of 2008 for purely partisan political reasons, and they're getting personal too. Opposite sides of the same coin. I'm just not required to either participate or enable.
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You make claims and cant back them up. How can that be misrepresented ?

If you want to pretend that I can't back them up, great. Whatever works for you.

The fact is that I don't bother, because I know how the game is played. I'll be happy to provide the graphical representation that I provided earlier of how the game is played, if you'd like.

You can keep whining about it, or just deal with it.
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Im not whining. I am enjoying watching you squirm.

 

[Mac1958]

What's my side?

And I've said you're "dangerous subversives"?

Come on. Maybe react to stuff I actually say. This is silly.
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l
Well you pointed out how the insults and personal attacks start coming from the left in a general way.

The proponents of your view seem to be doing the same....”moronic usefull idiots”really?

I get tired of constantly seeing what I say deliberately misrepresented as supporting terrorists, killing gays and abusing women. It effectively ends discourse doesn’t it?

Of course, both ends love to distort and misrepresent. Hence the first line of my sig.

I'm in another conversation right now with right wingers who refuse to admit what happened in the Meltdown of 2008 for purely partisan political reasons, and they're getting personal too. Opposite sides of the same coin. I'm just not required to either participate or enable.
.

You make claims and cant back them up. How can that be misrepresented ?

If you want to pretend that I can't back them up, great. Whatever works for you.

The fact is that I don't bother, because I know how the game is played. I'll be happy to provide the graphical representation that I provided earlier of how the game is played, if you'd like.

You can keep whining about it, or just deal with it.
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Im not whining. I am enjoying watching you squirm.

Great, run with that.
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[Tommy Tainant]

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Well you pointed out how the insults and personal attacks start coming from the left in a general way.

The proponents of your view seem to be doing the same....”moronic usefull idiots”really?

I get tired of constantly seeing what I say deliberately misrepresented as supporting terrorists, killing gays and abusing women. It effectively ends discourse doesn’t it?

Of course, both ends love to distort and misrepresent. Hence the first line of my sig.

I'm in another conversation right now with right wingers who refuse to admit what happened in the Meltdown of 2008 for purely partisan political reasons, and they're getting personal too. Opposite sides of the same coin. I'm just not required to either participate or enable.
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You make claims and cant back them up. How can that be misrepresented ?

If you want to pretend that I can't back them up, great. Whatever works for you.

The fact is that I don't bother, because I know how the game is played. I'll be happy to provide the graphical representation that I provided earlier of how the game is played, if you'd like.

You can keep whining about it, or just deal with it.
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Im not whining. I am enjoying watching you squirm.

Great, run with that.
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Will do. Going to tell all the lads down at the Regressive Club later.

 

[Lastamender]

Again......show me where Jesus said....."go ahead, murder gays." Since he never said that, anyone who advocates for that is not following Christ's Teachings and is not a Christian....

Moron....

Oh, I see. So it is possible that some people claiming to belong to a particular religion are not REAL members of that religion?

Huh!

But apparently it is also possible that someone who knows fuck-all about a different religion pretend they do, based on shit they parrot from their propaganda outlets.

I wonder then...in his fevered mind...who the real Muslims are?
The ones that go out and blow themselves up and murder innocent people...or those that don't?

The tards think the refugees who are fleeing the terrorists are the bad guys. These tards are no different than the fuckwads who turned away the Jews fleeing Hitler.

So they clearly believe the terrorists are the real Muslims.

You know, like these guys are the true Christians:

Those are democrats....Christians don't hate.....many democrats pretend to be Christians to get votes...but their hatred, jealousy and greed clearly show they are not Christians in any sense of the word....

Anyone can hate.

Anyone can accuse someone of that to end the conversation. That is what you do. If you ever summon the fortitude to discuss Islam honestly, let us know. Until then you are an apologist, and a piss poor one at that.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Oh, I see. So it is possible that some people claiming to belong to a particular religion are not REAL members of that religion?

Huh!

But apparently it is also possible that someone who knows fuck-all about a different religion pretend they do, based on shit they parrot from their propaganda outlets.

I wonder then...in his fevered mind...who the real Muslims are?
The ones that go out and blow themselves up and murder innocent people...or those that don't?

The tards think the refugees who are fleeing the terrorists are the bad guys. These tards are no different than the fuckwads who turned away the Jews fleeing Hitler.

So they clearly believe the terrorists are the real Muslims.

You know, like these guys are the true Christians:

Those are democrats....Christians don't hate.....many democrats pretend to be Christians to get votes...but their hatred, jealousy and greed clearly show they are not Christians in any sense of the word....

Anyone can hate.

Anyone can accuse someone of that to end the conversation. That is what you do. If you ever summon the fortitude to discuss Islam honestly, let us know. Until then you are an apologist, and a piss poor one at that.

I dont think that you understand the meaning of the word "apologist".

 

[Lastamender]

I wonder then...in his fevered mind...who the real Muslims are?
The ones that go out and blow themselves up and murder innocent people...or those that don't?

The tards think the refugees who are fleeing the terrorists are the bad guys. These tards are no different than the fuckwads who turned away the Jews fleeing Hitler.

So they clearly believe the terrorists are the real Muslims.

You know, like these guys are the true Christians:

Those are democrats....Christians don't hate.....many democrats pretend to be Christians to get votes...but their hatred, jealousy and greed clearly show they are not Christians in any sense of the word....

Anyone can hate.

Anyone can accuse someone of that to end the conversation. That is what you do. If you ever summon the fortitude to discuss Islam honestly, let us know. Until then you are an apologist, and a piss poor one at that.

I dont think that you understand the meaning of the word "apologist".

I don't give a shit what you think.

 

[Pogo]

The tards think the refugees who are fleeing the terrorists are the bad guys. These tards are no different than the fuckwads who turned away the Jews fleeing Hitler.

So they clearly believe the terrorists are the real Muslims.

You know, like these guys are the true Christians:

Those are democrats....Christians don't hate.....many democrats pretend to be Christians to get votes...but their hatred, jealousy and greed clearly show they are not Christians in any sense of the word....

Anyone can hate.

Anyone can accuse someone of that to end the conversation. That is what you do. If you ever summon the fortitude to discuss Islam honestly, let us know. Until then you are an apologist, and a piss poor one at that.

I dont think that you understand the meaning of the word "apologist".

I don't give a shit what you think.

Then your posts have no legitimacy. If you can't even agree on what words mean, then you have no business using them.

 

[Lastamender]

Those are democrats....Christians don't hate.....many democrats pretend to be Christians to get votes...but their hatred, jealousy and greed clearly show they are not Christians in any sense of the word....

Anyone can hate.

Anyone can accuse someone of that to end the conversation. That is what you do. If you ever summon the fortitude to discuss Islam honestly, let us know. Until then you are an apologist, and a piss poor one at that.

I dont think that you understand the meaning of the word "apologist".

I don't give a shit what you think.

Then your posts have no legitimacy. If you can't even agree on what words mean, then you have no business using them.

Another person that does not know the difference between factual and hateful. If you ever figure it out let me know.

 

[Pogo]

Nice follow up. Now the first bit of colossal bullshit can have company.

So in summary, Muslims are evil no matter what, and even though those you call "regressives" fight every day against religion entering government, they support Islam being in government. What a load of shit.

Btw, a major reason those Islamic theocracies hate the West? It's because of the freedoms that liberals fought for, that social conservatives so vehemently oppose because the Quran... sorry, Bible.... tells them to.

When 300,000,000 out of 1.2 billion people wouldn't mind subjugating others, or beheading them, yeah, we got an issue.
And if that doesn't bother you, well...you're an asshole...or a Muslim.

Actually when we have an issue is when people start pulling numbers out of their ass and going "300,000,000 out of 1.2 billion people wouldn't mind subjugating others" or "three million illegals voted".

Facts matter, and numbers are specific.

 

[Lastamender]

Nice follow up. Now the first bit of colossal bullshit can have company.

So in summary, Muslims are evil no matter what, and even though those you call "regressives" fight every day against religion entering government, they support Islam being in government. What a load of shit.

Btw, a major reason those Islamic theocracies hate the West? It's because of the freedoms that liberals fought for, that social conservatives so vehemently oppose because the Quran... sorry, Bible.... tells them to.

When 300,000,000 out of 1.2 billion people wouldn't mind subjugating others, or beheading them, yeah, we got an issue.
And if that doesn't bother you, well...you're an asshole...or a Muslim.

Actually when we have an issue is when people start pulling numbers out of their ass and going "300,000,000 out of 1.2 billion people wouldn't mind subjugating others" or "three million illegals voted".

Facts matter, and numbers are specific.

32,363 terror attacks since 9/11 is a fact. The Koran is filled with hate for anything or anyone that is not Islamic is a fact. Do those facts matter?

 

[Pogo]

John Hawkins - Why Liberals Support Muslims Who Hate Everything They Stand For

Mr. Hawkins doesn't know what a liberal is much less a cognitive thought...

The fabian socialists have hijacked the term "liberal" and have made it about collectivism instead of individual rights. They have taken away the comfort of free thinking to everyone has to march in lockstep.

The liberals of today are nothing but communists.

Exactly, thank you. The socialists have to keep changing the word they use because as soon as people realize what they are about, they change their name.......they used to call themselves progressives.....now they call themselves liberals....and they are reverting back to Progressive since "liberal" is now too closely associated with what the socialists actually are and do...

"Liberals" are way older than "socialists" --- the former wrote our Constitution. And "Progressives" came after both of them, roughly 1890 to 1920. Those are three different things that, in the latter's period, all existed concurrently. The fact that you can't be bothered to learn basic political science terminology, yet want to use them to fling like monkey turds, is entirely irrelevant to their actual definitions. That's on you.

Meanwhile you have yet to demonstrate what the fuck your OP title is yammering about. Mac has been standing in for you while you ran away, failing to demonstrate the same thing. Now that you're back you can take over. So please, do regale us all with still yet more concrete examples of that which you cannot explain.

EDIT - I didn't notice the dateline and mistakenly gave the OP credit for returning to the scene of his crime. Evidently he did not -- he simply ran away. Sorry Mac, you're still holding the bag.

 

[Dale Smith]

John Hawkins - Why Liberals Support Muslims Who Hate Everything They Stand For

Mr. Hawkins doesn't know what a liberal is much less a cognitive thought...

The fabian socialists have hijacked the term "liberal" and have made it about collectivism instead of individual rights. They have taken away the comfort of free thinking to everyone has to march in lockstep.

The liberals of today are nothing but communists.

Exactly, thank you. The socialists have to keep changing the word they use because as soon as people realize what they are about, they change their name.......they used to call themselves progressives.....now they call themselves liberals....and they are reverting back to Progressive since "liberal" is now too closely associated with what the socialists actually are and do...

"Liberals" are way older than "socialists" --- the former wrote our Constitution. And "Progressives" came after both of them, roughly 1890 to 1920. Those are three different things that, in the latter's period, all existed concurrently. The fact that you can't be bothered to learn basic political science terminology, yet want to use them to fling like monkey turds, is entirely irrelevant to their actual definitions. That's on you.

Meanwhile you have yet to demonstrate what the fuck your OP title is yammering about. Mac has been standing in for you while you ran away, failing to demonstrate the same thing. Now that you're back you can take over. So please, do regale us all with still yet more concrete examples of that which you cannot explain.

Cue re-run-away in four.... three.... two.....

What passes for today's "liberals" has nothing to do with what the real term was even 50 years ago and it had ZERO to do with collectivism.

 

[Pogo]

They are Christians, and they want gays executed. I gave you the links.

And we have spent YEARS listening to you pseudocons telling us that Jesus doesn't want gays to have equal rights and that they are pedophiles and such.

Again......show me where Jesus said....."go ahead, murder gays." Since he never said that, anyone who advocates for that is not following Christ's Teachings and is not a Christian....

Moron....

Oh, I see. So it is possible that some people claiming to belong to a particular religion are not REAL members of that religion?

Huh!

But apparently it is also possible that someone who knows fuck-all about a different religion pretend they do, based on shit they parrot from their propaganda outlets.

I wonder then...in his fevered mind...who the real Muslims are?
The ones that go out and blow themselves up and murder innocent people...or those that don't?

The tards think the refugees who are fleeing the terrorists are the bad guys. These tards are no different than the fuckwads who turned away the Jews fleeing Hitler.

So they clearly believe the terrorists are the real Muslims.

You know, like these guys are the true Christians:

Those are democrats....Christians don't hate.....many democrats pretend to be Christians to get votes...but their hatred, jealousy and greed clearly show they are not Christians in any sense of the word....

Ah here's the post I was trying to click.

Those are not in any observable way "democrats" -- which means people who believe in democracy. Nor are they Democrats, which is the name of a political party. They're not up there to vote so we have no idea which of them, if any, are registered to vote at all. And we know they're not democrats because we know they are fascists.

What we also know is that they're Christians. We know that because it's a prerequisite for joining the Klan. That organization was founded with a burning cross, an unsheathed sword and a bible. It's mandatory.

Now the poster's point sailing blithely over your pointed head here is that we could take this group of Christians --- we know for a fact they're Christians --- and attribute every lynching, every whipping, every bombing or act of other destruction that they do and, via the exact same Composition Fallacy you brought in here like a load in your pants and proceeded to dump ---- to "Christianism".

And that would be the same fallacy you're already using. It's your own logic, looking back at you in the mirror, dumb shit. Expressed another way, "correlation is not causation". You probably don't have a clue in the world what that means but again --- that ignorance is on you.

As for your blanket generalization fallacy above, to wit "Christians don't hate", go ahead and explain Eric Rudolph. Or John Salvi. Or Tim McVeigh. Or Scott Roeder. Or Adolf Hitler.

Nothing's changed, Dumbass --- you trot fallacies in here, they WILL be shot down. Wid a quickness.

 

[Mac1958]

“If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.” Leviticus 20:13

Boy, good point.

And that rash of internet videos of beheadings of gays by wild-eyed Presbyterians has been fucking HORRIFIC.

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PRESBYTERIANS
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[Pogo]

Not to mention the way they provided me with example after example after example of my point, right after I had made the point.

Hardcore partisan ideologues see only their side, and warp their personal reality to fit it. A fascinating bunch.
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It's almost cute watching them fall all over themselves to perform in exactly the ways as described and then immediately deny they have just done so.

If not for the fact there are so many of them and they are rank and file members of a major political party, they WOULD be cute. As is, they are merely dangerous subversives undermining western liberalism.

It happens all the time. They know what they're doing and they understandably get angry when that mirror is shoved in their face.

So, as we see on this thread, the distortions, misrepresentations and personal attacks begin.

Once they've identified a group as "oppressed", this is what happens.

They think they're "defending" the "oppressed". And they will do it regardless of the consequences.
.

Have you noticed the personal attacks in posts coming from your own side? Distortions? Misrepresentations? So we are now dangerous subversives?

What's my side?

And I've said you're "dangerous subversives"?

Come on. Maybe react to stuff I actually say. This is silly.
.

l
Well you pointed out how the insults and personal attacks start coming from the left in a general way.

The proponents of your view seem to be doing the same....”moronic usefull idiots”really?

I get tired of constantly seeing what I say deliberately misrepresented as supporting terrorists, killing gays and abusing women. It effectively ends discourse doesn’t it?

Indeed that appears to be its purpose. Lush Rimjob has taught them that what they want is monologue. And when you write a monologue, you write the script for both sides, whether the other party agrees to it or not.

 

[bodecea]

This is the thing that always amazes us on the Right...the left wing has teamed up with radical islamic terrorism thinking that they can use them to bring down the west........and there won't be any blow back in that relationship....

Leftists and Islamists: Strange Bedfellows

It cannot be repeated enough that the Marxist-anarchist radical left Antifa and Islamic jihadists have joined forces to destroy Western civilization. Known as the Red-Green Axis, this unlikely alliance of leftists with Islamic groups is actually a means to an end by Islamists.

Inexplicably, left-wing forces do not comprehend that they are merely one of the tools by which Islamists wish to impose a global caliphate. In his searing documentary Killing Europe, producer Michael Hansen makes the following cogent points.

The Islamic jihadists have found willing partners in the left for a number of reasons.

• Particularly in Europe, the left's traditional voting bloc was the workers or proletariat. But as communism produced only mass misery and the deaths of millions, those who had invested 20-30 years in left-wing ideology soon found themselves without an identity once the proletariat saw the true nature of communism.
• Enter Muslim refugees, and the left now sees a new voting base. The fact that these migrants come from a culture completely at odds with the West does not faze the left, since leftists have never accepted historical facts and, even more telling, now tout a multicultural paradise, notwithstanding the irrevocable differences that an Islamic religious-based system contains. In essence, the left has found a new base to promote its own identity.
• That sharia law permits the stoning of gays, endorses gender apartheid, and advocates rape and murder of the infidel seems not to have registered in the leftist mind. Although the left abhors religion, leftists cannot fathom that their reliance on Islamist partners will not end well. This was borne out when the communists and Islamists joined to overturn the shah of Iran; the Islamic fundamentalists took the reins, eliminated the communists, and imposed draconian sharia law to maintain control.

As Ayn Rand wrote, "[r]eason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it." But as Kevin J. Johnston at Freedom Report explains, we need to be informed and realize that what is occurring is not to be denied even when political leaders reject the facts.

How, indeed, can a secularist or atheist even consider siding with a religiously mandated system that absolutely abhors secularism and atheism? How can leftists who are ostensibly concerned with women's rights and gay liberation partner with a system that mandates the murder of gays and the dehumanization and killing of women?

What both groups agree upon is a totalitarian society and censorship of ideas that would expose them. Political correctness hides their deeds. For example:

I am a liberal and I do not approve of you radical muslims.

 

[bodecea]

Ah, because the left are morons. Easiest question of the day candidate.

We on the left are no approving of your rightwing muslim ways at all.

 

[Lastamender]

Again......show me where Jesus said....."go ahead, murder gays." Since he never said that, anyone who advocates for that is not following Christ's Teachings and is not a Christian....

Moron....

Oh, I see. So it is possible that some people claiming to belong to a particular religion are not REAL members of that religion?

Huh!

But apparently it is also possible that someone who knows fuck-all about a different religion pretend they do, based on shit they parrot from their propaganda outlets.

I wonder then...in his fevered mind...who the real Muslims are?
The ones that go out and blow themselves up and murder innocent people...or those that don't?

The tards think the refugees who are fleeing the terrorists are the bad guys. These tards are no different than the fuckwads who turned away the Jews fleeing Hitler.

So they clearly believe the terrorists are the real Muslims.

You know, like these guys are the true Christians:

Those are democrats....Christians don't hate.....many democrats pretend to be Christians to get votes...but their hatred, jealousy and greed clearly show they are not Christians in any sense of the word....

Ah here's the post I was trying to click.

Those are not in any observable way "democrats" -- which means people who believe in democracy. Nor are they Democrats, which is the name of a political party. They're not up there to vote so we have no idea which of them, if any, are registered to vote at all. And we know they're not democrats because we know they are fascists.

What we also know is that they're Christians. We know that because it's a prerequisite for joining the Klan. That organization was founded with a burning cross, an unsheathed sword and a bible. It's mandatory.

Now the poster's point sailing blithely over your pointed head here is that we could take this group of Christians --- we know for a fact they're Christians --- and attribute every lynching, every whipping, every bombing or act of other destruction that they do and, via the exact same Composition Fallacy you brought in here like a load in your pants and proceeded to dump ---- to "Christianism".

And that would be the same fallacy you're already using. It's your own logic, looking back at you in the mirror, dumb shit. Expressed another way, "correlation is not causation". You probably don't have a clue in the world what that means but again --- that ignorance is on you.

As for your blanket generalization fallacy above, to wit "Christians don't hate", go ahead and explain Eric Rudolph. Or John Salvi. Or Tim McVeigh. Or Scott Roeder. Or Adolf Hitler.

Nothing's changed, Dumbass --- you trot fallacies in here, they WILL be shot down. Wid a quickness.

One more time, Christian doctrine says to hate no one. These people are hijacking the religion using it that way. Can't you figure that out?

Islamic doctrine clearly says to hate non-Muslims and kill them. Another fact. Get it?