Why should an independent vote Trump?

We have 3.5% unemployment and labor shortages. Your claim is just BS.


Yeah, for like a year, after literally GENERATIONS of the labor market being flooded.


And already we are seeing encouraging results. Let's do more of what seems to be working.
Ok you are just lying now. The labor market has been the same for years. Unemployment was low under Obama and yes there were labor shortages. The idea that you think illegals who make the least of anyone and compete for only the jobs most people don't want is holding down wages is really stupid.... With 3.5% unemployment states with min wage increases shouldn't be leading in wage gains. The economy is broken.


Try to be less dishonest.


I am not claiming massive changes. I have been clear the the changes are relatively minor and preliminary.


I am not talking about just illegals.


Illegals do not just compete for the jobs most people don't want.


Min wage increases are not leading in wage gains.


THe economy is broken. And you are arguing for more of the status quo, and lying about the changes we are seeing.
Clearly it is you who is lying and confused. You haven't come close to making a good point yet. Wages are weak but where they are increasing the most they increased min wage. I am not arguing for status quo at all. I've stated all the issues with the economy. Trump is doing nothing about them and making some worse.



What is the major change to the status quo that you support?
Our economy is full of near monopolies, we need to fix that. We have to make sure the wage collusion stops. We need to get rid of right to work for less laws. We need to get rid of non compete agreements. We need to really give workers some power.
 
Yeah, for like a year, after literally GENERATIONS of the labor market being flooded.


And already we are seeing encouraging results. Let's do more of what seems to be working.
Ok you are just lying now. The labor market has been the same for years. Unemployment was low under Obama and yes there were labor shortages. The idea that you think illegals who make the least of anyone and compete for only the jobs most people don't want is holding down wages is really stupid.... With 3.5% unemployment states with min wage increases shouldn't be leading in wage gains. The economy is broken.


Try to be less dishonest.


I am not claiming massive changes. I have been clear the the changes are relatively minor and preliminary.


I am not talking about just illegals.


Illegals do not just compete for the jobs most people don't want.


Min wage increases are not leading in wage gains.


THe economy is broken. And you are arguing for more of the status quo, and lying about the changes we are seeing.
Clearly it is you who is lying and confused. You haven't come close to making a good point yet. Wages are weak but where they are increasing the most they increased min wage. I am not arguing for status quo at all. I've stated all the issues with the economy. Trump is doing nothing about them and making some worse.



What is the major change to the status quo that you support?
Our economy is full of near monopolies, we need to fix that. We have to make sure the wage collusion stops. We need to get rid of right to work for less laws. We need to get rid of non compete agreements. We need to really give workers some power.


"Near monopolies"? Iike What? How would you fix that and what do you imagine the major impact would be?
 
Stalin Loves You and Mao give you a High 5, and don’t forget to build those gas ovens to silence anyone who disagrees with you.

Yeah, for like a year, after literally GENERATIONS of the labor market being flooded.


And already we are seeing encouraging results. Let's do more of what seems to be working.
Ok you are just lying now. The labor market has been the same for years. Unemployment was low under Obama and yes there were labor shortages. The idea that you think illegals who make the least of anyone and compete for only the jobs most people don't want is holding down wages is really stupid.... With 3.5% unemployment states with min wage increases shouldn't be leading in wage gains. The economy is broken.


Try to be less dishonest.


I am not claiming massive changes. I have been clear the the changes are relatively minor and preliminary.


I am not talking about just illegals.


Illegals do not just compete for the jobs most people don't want.


Min wage increases are not leading in wage gains.


THe economy is broken. And you are arguing for more of the status quo, and lying about the changes we are seeing.
Clearly it is you who is lying and confused. You haven't come close to making a good point yet. Wages are weak but where they are increasing the most they increased min wage. I am not arguing for status quo at all. I've stated all the issues with the economy. Trump is doing nothing about them and making some worse.



What is the major change to the status quo that you support?
Our economy is full of near monopolies, we need to fix that. We have to make sure the wage collusion stops. We need to get rid of right to work for less laws. We need to get rid of non compete agreements. We need to really give workers some power.
 
We need to really give workers some power.


When socialists say they want to give "power" to the "workers," what they really mean is that they want to grow government, crush individual rights, steal our money, and off those who complain....

Have a look at four who promised to "give workers some power...."




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stalin.gif



Adolf-Hitler.jpg


saddam-hussein-d3618d8d-24de-4b88-a2bc-ac62e5e1b987.jpg
 
Ok you are just lying now. The labor market has been the same for years. Unemployment was low under Obama and yes there were labor shortages. The idea that you think illegals who make the least of anyone and compete for only the jobs most people don't want is holding down wages is really stupid.... With 3.5% unemployment states with min wage increases shouldn't be leading in wage gains. The economy is broken.


Try to be less dishonest.


I am not claiming massive changes. I have been clear the the changes are relatively minor and preliminary.


I am not talking about just illegals.


Illegals do not just compete for the jobs most people don't want.


Min wage increases are not leading in wage gains.


THe economy is broken. And you are arguing for more of the status quo, and lying about the changes we are seeing.
Clearly it is you who is lying and confused. You haven't come close to making a good point yet. Wages are weak but where they are increasing the most they increased min wage. I am not arguing for status quo at all. I've stated all the issues with the economy. Trump is doing nothing about them and making some worse.



What is the major change to the status quo that you support?
Our economy is full of near monopolies, we need to fix that. We have to make sure the wage collusion stops. We need to get rid of right to work for less laws. We need to get rid of non compete agreements. We need to really give workers some power.


"Near monopolies"? Iike What? How would you fix that and what do you imagine the major impact would be?
I see you are oblivious. Shocking. It is all around us.

America Has A Monopoly Problem

Without realizing it, we’ve become a nation of monopolies. A large and growing part of our economy is “owned” by a handful of companies that face little competition.

They have no incentive to deliver better products or to get more efficient. They simply rake in cash from people who have no choice but to hand it over.

This would be impossible if we had true capitalism.

Across industries, the U.S. has become a country of monopolies.

  • Three companies control about 80% of mobile telecoms. Three have 95% of credit cards. Four have 70% of airline flights within the U.S. Google handles 60% of search. The list goes on. (h/t The Economist)
  • In agriculture, four companies control 66% of U.S. hogs slaughtered in 2015, 85% of the steer, and half the chickens, according to the Department of Agriculture. (h/t Open Markets Institute)
  • Similarly, just four companies control 85% of U.S. corn seed sales, up from 60% in 2000, and 75% of soy bean seed, a jump from about half, the Agriculture Department says. Far larger than anyone — the American companies DowDuPont and Monsanto.
  • As we have reported, some economists say this concentration of market power is gumming up the economy and is largely to blame for decades of flat wages and weak productivity growth.
 
We need to really give workers some power.


When socialists say they want to give "power" to the "workers," what they really mean is that they want to grow government, crush individual rights, steal our money, and off those who complain....

Have a look at four who promised to "give workers some power...."




220px-Mao_Zedong_portrait.jpg



stalin.gif



Adolf-Hitler.jpg


saddam-hussein-d3618d8d-24de-4b88-a2bc-ac62e5e1b987.jpg
And trump supports the big socialist Foxconn deal in WI. Oh and how did he bail out the farmers? Socialism. Don't try to pretend trump isn't socialist.
 
This is exactly what they want.

Don’t believe me?

Look how they sided with Iran over the sentence executed on a Mass murderer and Terrorist!

Democrats & Sanders Reveal Their True Plans for America


We need to really give workers some power.


When socialists say they want to give "power" to the "workers," what they really mean is that they want to grow government, crush individual rights, steal our money, and off those who complain....

Have a look at four who promised to "give workers some power...."




220px-Mao_Zedong_portrait.jpg



stalin.gif



Adolf-Hitler.jpg


saddam-hussein-d3618d8d-24de-4b88-a2bc-ac62e5e1b987.jpg
 
Got Ovens?

We need to really give workers some power.


When socialists say they want to give "power" to the "workers," what they really mean is that they want to grow government, crush individual rights, steal our money, and off those who complain....

Have a look at four who promised to "give workers some power...."




220px-Mao_Zedong_portrait.jpg



stalin.gif



Adolf-Hitler.jpg


saddam-hussein-d3618d8d-24de-4b88-a2bc-ac62e5e1b987.jpg
And trump supports the big socialist Foxconn deal in WI. Oh and how did he bail out the farmers? Socialism. Don't try to pretend trump isn't socialist.
 
This is exactly what they want.

Don’t believe me?

Look how they sided wit Iran over the sentence executed on a Mass murderer and Terrorist!

Democrats & Sanders Reveal Their True Plans for America


We need to really give workers some power.


When socialists say they want to give "power" to the "workers," what they really mean is that they want to grow government, crush individual rights, steal our money, and off those who complain....

Have a look at four who promised to "give workers some power...."




220px-Mao_Zedong_portrait.jpg



stalin.gif



Adolf-Hitler.jpg


saddam-hussein-d3618d8d-24de-4b88-a2bc-ac62e5e1b987.jpg
Yeah assassinating people is good? I think killing people without trial is more a Nazi thing....
 
Got Ovens?

We need to really give workers some power.


When socialists say they want to give "power" to the "workers," what they really mean is that they want to grow government, crush individual rights, steal our money, and off those who complain....

Have a look at four who promised to "give workers some power...."




220px-Mao_Zedong_portrait.jpg



stalin.gif



Adolf-Hitler.jpg


saddam-hussein-d3618d8d-24de-4b88-a2bc-ac62e5e1b987.jpg
And trump supports the big socialist Foxconn deal in WI. Oh and how did he bail out the farmers? Socialism. Don't try to pretend trump isn't socialist.
Only place I see Nazi flags is right wing rallies.
 
Why do you want to put us in Mass Graves Bro?

Don’t Grave Me Bro!

Democrats & Sanders Reveal Their True Plans for America


This is exactly what they want.

Don’t believe me?

Look how they sided wit Iran over the sentence executed on a Mass murderer and Terrorist!

Democrats & Sanders Reveal Their True Plans for America


We need to really give workers some power.


When socialists say they want to give "power" to the "workers," what they really mean is that they want to grow government, crush individual rights, steal our money, and off those who complain....

Have a look at four who promised to "give workers some power...."




220px-Mao_Zedong_portrait.jpg



stalin.gif



Adolf-Hitler.jpg


saddam-hussein-d3618d8d-24de-4b88-a2bc-ac62e5e1b987.jpg
Yeah assassinating people is good? I think killing people without trial is more a Nazi thing....
 
Only place I see Nazi flags is right wing rallies


and everyone with a Nazi flag at a "right wing rally" is really a paid DNC hack.... just like the "fights" at Trump events in 2016, all started by PAID HILLARY campaign "workers."


Nazis were socialists. You are socialist.... and that's why you are one who flies the flag, sort of a "false flag attack on truth..."
 
Only place I see Nazi flags is right wing rallies


and everyone with a Nazi flag at a "right wing rally" is really a paid DNC hack.... just like the "fights" at Trump events in 2016, all started by PAID HILLARY campaign "workers."


Nazis were socialists. You are socialist.... and that's why you are one who flies the flag, sort of a "false flag attack on truth..."
I'm really not interested in the nut job arguments, and neither are any real independents.
 
Oh and how did he bail out the farmers?


Trump's new trade deals have nothing to do with it = LOL!!!!


Face it, your hatred of Trump means you think lying about Trump is OK..... and lying is part of what you do.... when you aren't stealing...
 
Is there any real reason I should vote trump? According to trump he is not doing well. He made fun of Obama for never hitting an annual gdp greater than 3%, but now trump is in the same boat. He said it was bad when Obama ruled by executive order, but now he does the same thing. He said Obamas low unemployment rate wasn't really low because it's all about the labor force participation rate which has remained low under trump. Republicans told me huge deficits were bad, and now trump has them over a trillion dollars. The country is as divided as ever so clearly he isn't bringing us together. On top of all this he is the least presidential president I have ever seen. Has he done anything an independent would vote for?
Because the Democratic Party is turning America into a Banana Republic with their incredible corruption, brazen dishonesty, despicable demagoguery and fanatical hate.
 
15th post
I'm really not interested in the nut job arguments, and neither are any real independents.


There is you, and there is truth, and those two data points are always 180 degrees apart....
 
It seems there are few real reasons to vote trump. Just all the partisan BS.
 
This is from your own people Bro!

Documented testimony, Bro!


You want us digging mass graves with a pick and shovel.

You even said you wanted to arrest all the millionaires and billionaires and make them work digging mass graves and building roads by hand, not with heavy equipment but with shovels and rakes like in a Soviet Union Prison Camp.

Got Gulag, Bro?

So why do you want to put us in concentration camps, Bro?

Don’t Mass Grave Me Bro!

Democrats & Sanders Reveal Their True Plans for America


Only place I see Nazi flags is right wing rallies


and everyone with a Nazi flag at a "right wing rally" is really a paid DNC hack.... just like the "fights" at Trump events in 2016, all started by PAID HILLARY campaign "workers."


Nazis were socialists. You are socialist.... and that's why you are one who flies the flag, sort of a "false flag attack on truth..."
I'm really not interested in the nut job arguments, and neither are any real independents.
 
Try to be less dishonest.


I am not claiming massive changes. I have been clear the the changes are relatively minor and preliminary.


I am not talking about just illegals.


Illegals do not just compete for the jobs most people don't want.


Min wage increases are not leading in wage gains.


THe economy is broken. And you are arguing for more of the status quo, and lying about the changes we are seeing.
Clearly it is you who is lying and confused. You haven't come close to making a good point yet. Wages are weak but where they are increasing the most they increased min wage. I am not arguing for status quo at all. I've stated all the issues with the economy. Trump is doing nothing about them and making some worse.



What is the major change to the status quo that you support?
Our economy is full of near monopolies, we need to fix that. We have to make sure the wage collusion stops. We need to get rid of right to work for less laws. We need to get rid of non compete agreements. We need to really give workers some power.


"Near monopolies"? Iike What? How would you fix that and what do you imagine the major impact would be?
I see you are oblivious. Shocking. It is all around us.

America Has A Monopoly Problem

Without realizing it, we’ve become a nation of monopolies. A large and growing part of our economy is “owned” by a handful of companies that face little competition.

They have no incentive to deliver better products or to get more efficient. They simply rake in cash from people who have no choice but to hand it over.

This would be impossible if we had true capitalism.

Across industries, the U.S. has become a country of monopolies.

  • Three companies control about 80% of mobile telecoms. Three have 95% of credit cards. Four have 70% of airline flights within the U.S. Google handles 60% of search. The list goes on. (h/t The Economist)
  • In agriculture, four companies control 66% of U.S. hogs slaughtered in 2015, 85% of the steer, and half the chickens, according to the Department of Agriculture. (h/t Open Markets Institute)
  • Similarly, just four companies control 85% of U.S. corn seed sales, up from 60% in 2000, and 75% of soy bean seed, a jump from about half, the Agriculture Department says. Far larger than anyone — the American companies DowDuPont and Monsanto.
  • As we have reported, some economists say this concentration of market power is gumming up the economy and is largely to blame for decades of flat wages and weak productivity growth.


So, if you broke up the phone "monopolies", how would the make things better? Cause right now, the biggest issue with phones, imo, is the way people use them, nothing with the phones themselves.
 

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