Why Religion Must Be Banished....

[Penelope]

"The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment."
Gads, you're an imbecile.


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Most liberals simply don't realize that the First Amendment was not intended to protect government from religion. It was meant to protect religion from the government. It worked for about two hundred years, but then modern liberals reared their ugly heads and declared otherwise.

Since we have established that the US was not founded on any particular religion , I guess the Fed and State govs should refrain from any religious talk, laws, and religious symbols on government property.

Oh? Where and when was that established? Certainly not in the 18th Century, leftist.

Why is there a Yuge chapel in Congress, hmm?

Were not days of prayer and fasting called for by the President back in the founding days of this country ?

You damn right there were. You may as well take your revisionist history ball and slink home. Homie ain't playin' that.

Don't care about source, info is good. The actual documents still exist, so you may as well give that up.

When our leaders used to call us to prayer and fasting

No you take your revisionist history and put it where the sun doesn't shine. The US was not founded on Judeo - Christianity.

It doesn't matter what they use to do the fact remains , the first amendment is freedom of religion.

Proof? If you haul out that Jefferson thing, talking about the Barbaric Muslims, that's fail, k?

Just so you know in advance.

Know why the Marines are called "Leathernecks"? They wore leather neck protectors to guard against the Barbary Muslim Pirates' behead attack.

The Leatherneck Legacy | Marine Corps Association

So the pirates used swords well they should of covered all their bodies with lots of padding. What did the Marines use? Knives.

No one is saying some of the founders were not religious but the US was built on freedom of religion which means it was not built on Christianity. St Paul, or Paul, does tell the slaves how to behave and submit to authority, so perhaps it was.

The Magna Carta was the influence in the US. England were anti Catholic and anti Jews and it came to the US soil as well. Protestants ruled, those most were deist and Unitarian, Puritans(Adams), and very anti catholics

Anti-Catholicism in the United States - Wikipedia


The only RC that became Potus was killed.

"The democratic aspiration is no mere recent phase in human history . . . It was written in Magna Carta."

--Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 1941 Inaugural address

 

[PoliticalChic]

...from the public arena and the public's consciousness: because it is the only way Leftism can survive.



1. The Founders were all deeply religious, steeped in Judeo-Christian tradition and the Bible. This was the warning:

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other" John Adams to Massachusetts Militia, 11 October 1798




2. Compare that to the worldview of the elites, and the operators of government school:

"Just because any religious idea, any idea of any god at all, any flirtation even with a god, is the most inexpressible foulness, particularly tolerantly (and often even favourably) accepted by the democratic bourgeoisie—for that very reason it is the most dangerous foulness, the most shameful “infection.” A million physical sins, dirty tricks, acts of violence and infections are much more easily discovered by the crowd, and therefore are much less dangerous, than the nubile, spiritual idea of god, dressed up in the most attractive “ideological” costumes."
Letter from Lenin to Maxim Gorky, Written on November 13 or 14, 1913



3. Those who have accepted Liberalism, postmodernism, Progressivism, mock the idea of the Judeo-Christian God, and compare same to Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy.
And, they must.
Because if they accept the traditional view of God....then they would be forced to accept the corollary, the view that Evil, or Satan, or Lucifer, exist as well.....and the evidence would prove that Leftism is animated by that evil.




4. Compare Ronald Reagan's response to the what he named 'the evil empire' to Obama, who embraced and supported evil early on in his political career.

And, this is no surprise, as Barack Obama's mentor was Saul Alinsky, proud of his affiliation with the personification of evil:

"Alinsky dedicated his book to none other than the fallen angel Lucifer, yes that Lucifer, whom he describes as "the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment (that would be God) and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom." Webutante: The Late Saul Alinsky, Obama's Radical Community Organizer Inspirer-in-Chief




If the true animator of Leftism was revealed....the American people would never support any of its iterations:
Liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism, Communism, Socialism or Fascism.
Never.


So....their mission is to banish God and religion.

They weren’t Jews.

And what about Mormons? They say you’re wrong

Did you ever go to school????

Any school????


What the heck is your post supposed to mean??????????

 

[jillian]

...from the public arena and the public's consciousness: because it is the only way Leftism can survive.



1. The Founders were all deeply religious, steeped in Judeo-Christian tradition and the Bible. This was the warning:

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other" John Adams to Massachusetts Militia, 11 October 1798




2. Compare that to the worldview of the elites, and the operators of government school:

"Just because any religious idea, any idea of any god at all, any flirtation even with a god, is the most inexpressible foulness, particularly tolerantly (and often even favourably) accepted by the democratic bourgeoisie—for that very reason it is the most dangerous foulness, the most shameful “infection.” A million physical sins, dirty tricks, acts of violence and infections are much more easily discovered by the crowd, and therefore are much less dangerous, than the nubile, spiritual idea of god, dressed up in the most attractive “ideological” costumes."
Letter from Lenin to Maxim Gorky, Written on November 13 or 14, 1913



3. Those who have accepted Liberalism, postmodernism, Progressivism, mock the idea of the Judeo-Christian God, and compare same to Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy.
And, they must.
Because if they accept the traditional view of God....then they would be forced to accept the corollary, the view that Evil, or Satan, or Lucifer, exist as well.....and the evidence would prove that Leftism is animated by that evil.




4. Compare Ronald Reagan's response to the what he named 'the evil empire' to Obama, who embraced and supported evil early on in his political career.

And, this is no surprise, as Barack Obama's mentor was Saul Alinsky, proud of his affiliation with the personification of evil:

"Alinsky dedicated his book to none other than the fallen angel Lucifer, yes that Lucifer, whom he describes as "the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment (that would be God) and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom." Webutante: The Late Saul Alinsky, Obama's Radical Community Organizer Inspirer-in-Chief




If the true animator of Leftism was revealed....the American people would never support any of its iterations:
Liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism, Communism, Socialism or Fascism.
Never.


So....their mission is to banish God and religion.

you're a loon.

go ahead, cut and paste queen, tell me I have no religion.

I have religion. it just isn't yours. and our first amendment says you don't get to tell me or anyone else what to believe in.

I know how rightwingnuts hate that.

but you know what? tough. you're hate and lunacy is really, really boring.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment. Our founders came from England to trade and get away from religious tyranny.

Free will is mainly an illusion and individualism, you are right every Jew and Christian has their own individual ideology of what being Jewish and Christian means, a buffet of a thousand flavors.

Judeo didn't exist in front of Christianity till Israel announce themselves as a self proclaimed state. Just because most of the founders were baptized didn't mean they were religious. It was pretty automatic in those days.

"The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment."
Gads, you're an imbecile.


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Most liberals simply don't realize that the First Amendment was not intended to protect government from religion. It was meant to protect religion from the government. It worked for about two hundred years, but then modern liberals reared their ugly heads and declared otherwise.

Since we have established that the US was not founded on any particular religion , I guess the Fed and State govs should refrain from any religious talk, laws, and religious symbols on government property.

It was founded based on the Bible.


Fact.

No it was not.. Freedom of religion does not sound like it was based on the bible , does it now??

Here we go again.


Let's prove you're a moron.


The Constitution provides for an observance of the Sabbath in its Presentment Clause, mandating that the President has ten days, excluding Sundays, to veto a bill lest it become binding.

And the instrument was framed with a view to the Declaration, which unequivocally bestows gratitude on the God of the Bible for America's independence.


1. " The most quoted source was the Bible. Established in the original writings of our Founding Fathers we find that they discovered in Isaiah 33:22 the three branches of government: Isaiah 33:22 “For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us.” Here we see the judicial, the legislative and the executive branches. In Ezra 7:24 we see where they established the tax exempt status of the church: Ezra 7:24 “Also we certify you, that touching any of the priests and Levites, singers, porters, Nethinims, or ministers of this house of God, it shall not be lawful to impose toll, tribute, or custom, upon them.”

When we look at our Constitution we see in Article 4 Section 4 that we are guaranteed a Republican form of government, that was found in Exodus 18 “Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, and rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens:” This indicates that we are to choose, or elect God fearing men and women. Looking at Article 3 Section 3 we see almost word for word Deuteronomy 17:6: ‘No person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses. . .’ Deuteronomy 17:6 “At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses. . .”. The next paragraph in Article 3 Section 3 refers to who should pay the price for treason. In England, they could punish the sons for the trespasses of the father, if the father died."
http://www.newswithviews.com/Anghis/roger106.htm


BTW....there is a specific reference to Jesus Christ in the Constitution.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment. Our founders came from England to trade and get away from religious tyranny.

Free will is mainly an illusion and individualism, you are right every Jew and Christian has their own individual ideology of what being Jewish and Christian means, a buffet of a thousand flavors.

Judeo didn't exist in front of Christianity till Israel announce themselves as a self proclaimed state. Just because most of the founders were baptized didn't mean they were religious. It was pretty automatic in those days.

"The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment."
Gads, you're an imbecile.


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Most liberals simply don't realize that the First Amendment was not intended to protect government from religion. It was meant to protect religion from the government. It worked for about two hundred years, but then modern liberals reared their ugly heads and declared otherwise.

Since we have established that the US was not founded on any particular religion , I guess the Fed and State govs should refrain from any religious talk, laws, and religious symbols on government property.

Oh? Where and when was that established? Certainly not in the 18th Century, leftist.

Why is there a Yuge chapel in Congress, hmm?

Were not days of prayer and fasting called for by the President back in the founding days of this country ?

You damn right there were. You may as well take your revisionist history ball and slink home. Homie ain't playin' that.

Don't care about source, info is good. The actual documents still exist, so you may as well give that up.

When our leaders used to call us to prayer and fasting

No you take your revisionist history and put it where the sun doesn't shine. The US was not founded on Judeo - Christianity.

It doesn't matter what they use to do the fact remains , the first amendment is freedom of religion.

The Constitution provides for an observance of the Sabbath in its Presentment Clause, mandating that the President has ten days, excluding Sundays, to veto a bill lest it become binding.

And the instrument was framed with a view to the Declaration, which unequivocally bestows gratitude on the God of the Bible for America's independence.


1. " The most quoted source was the Bible. Established in the original writings of our Founding Fathers we find that they discovered in Isaiah 33:22 the three branches of government: Isaiah 33:22 “For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us.” Here we see the judicial, the legislative and the executive branches. In Ezra 7:24 we see where they established the tax exempt status of the church: Ezra 7:24 “Also we certify you, that touching any of the priests and Levites, singers, porters, Nethinims, or ministers of this house of God, it shall not be lawful to impose toll, tribute, or custom, upon them.”

When we look at our Constitution we see in Article 4 Section 4 that we are guaranteed a Republican form of government, that was found in Exodus 18 “Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, and rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens:” This indicates that we are to choose, or elect God fearing men and women. Looking at Article 3 Section 3 we see almost word for word Deuteronomy 17:6: ‘No person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses. . .’ Deuteronomy 17:6 “At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses. . .”. The next paragraph in Article 3 Section 3 refers to who should pay the price for treason. In England, they could punish the sons for the trespasses of the father, if the father died."
http://www.newswithviews.com/Anghis/roger106.htm


BTW....there is a specific reference to Jesus Christ in the Constitution.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The Founders were all deeply religious, steeped in Judeo-Christian tradition and the Bible. This was the warning:

BS


5 Founding Fathers Whose Skepticism About Christianity Would Make Them Unelectable Today

The whole history of these books [the Gospels] is so defective and doubtful that it seems vain to attempt minute enquiry into it: and such tricks have been played with their text, and with the texts of other books relating to them, that we have a right, from that cause, to entertain much doubt what parts of them are genuine. In the New Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man; and that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds. It is as easy to separate those parts, as to pick out diamonds from dunghills.

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, January 24, 1814

And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerve in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors.

-Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823

Luckily for you I'm here to give you the education you so sorely lack.

Take notes, so you don't embarrass yourself again....

1...we find Liberals, Progressives, Democrats claiming that America is not based on a Judeo-Christian foundation, and that our Founder were otherwise than steeped in those same orthodox and traditional views.
Let's shine the light of truth on the this despicable fiction.



2. The truth about American's founders is..."all of whom, even if some did not individually adhere to orthodox Christianity, were steeped in the Judeo-Christian tradition.

Here’s what we can say for certain about their religious beliefs.

a) All of the Founders believed in a transcendent God, that is, a Creator who exists outside of nature.
b) All the Founders believed in a God who imposes moral obligations on human beings
c) All the Founders believed in a God who punishes bad behavior and rewards good behavior in an afterlife."



3.



Were the Founders Religious?

As the dupes of the Left throw around terms to make their case, let's see what "Deist" actually means.

4. As there is far, far too much evidence for the Judeo-Christian basis of our nation, those on the Left....desiring to adhere to Marx's doctrines....attempt to call the Founders 'deists' to attempt to pry them from being called 'religious.'

de•ism
noun
belief in the existence of a supreme being, specifically of a creator who does not intervene in the universe. The term is used chiefly of an intellectual movement of the 17th and 18th centuries that accepted the existence of a creator on the basis of reason but rejected belief in a supernatural deity who interacts with humankind. Google




5. "The notion that any of the Founders believed in an impersonal deity who merely created the universe and then left it to itself is false. All of them believed in a God who, as Franklin said at the Constitutional Convention, “governs in the affairs of men.”


Let’s start with George Washington.

Washington’s writings, both public and private, are full of references to the Bible. This is certainly true during his eight years as the first President of the United States.

Here is Washington at his first Inaugural:
“The propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right, which Heaven itself has ordained.”
In all likelihood, Washington was an orthodox Christian.


Like Washington, Benjamin Franklin also referenced Bible verses, stories, and metaphors throughout his life. His calls for prayer at the Constitutional Convention were typical of his attitude. Franklin, who had his own unorthodox views, summed up his faith this way: “That the soul of man is immortal, and will be treated with justice in another life respecting its conduct in this.”

Clearly not a view of God ignoring his creations.


6. When it comes to John Adams, the Leftwing sophists have a field day!

"Adams referred to himself as a Christian throughout his life, but did not believe in traditional Christian doctrines such as the trinity or the divinity of Jesus.... [but] before, during and after his tenure as President, Adams repeatedly asserted his admiration for the Christian faith... Adams spoke of his great respect for the Bible. “[T]he Bible is the best book in the world. It contains more of my… philosophy than all the libraries I have seen…”


a. Those who suggest that Adams was in any way against religion like to quote from a letter he wrote to Thomas Jefferson in which he said, “This would be the best of all possible worlds if there was no religion in it.”

Seems to be a perfect spokesman for Marx or Lenin, no?

Definitely, no.



Unfortunately, those who cite this line never quote the lines that immediately follow “But in this exclamation, I should have been as fanatical as [the skeptics of religion]. Without religion, this world would be something not fit to be mentioned in polite company—I mean hell.”

So, those who quote the first line without quoting the subsequent lines are either unaware of the full comment or are deliberately misleading people as to Adams’s beliefs."
Ibid.


7. "Like Adams, Thomas Jefferson did not adhere to orthodox doctrine. Yet he often declared himself to be a Christian. “I am a Christian, he said, “in the only sense he [Jesus] wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to his doctrines...”

As one of the leaders of the American Revolution, his views are well known. After all, this is the man who wrote in the Declaration of Independence that “all men… are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” You can’t get a much more explicit statement of belief than that.



These four founders – Washington, Adams, Jefferson and Franklin – were practical men with a sober view of human nature. They understood that man is morally weak and that religion provides the best encouragement and incentive to be good.

It does so, first and foremost, by teaching that choices have consequences. Not necessarily in the here and now, but most certainly in the hereafter – meted out by a just God.


It should come as no surprise, then, that Jefferson, in his second inaugural, asked for, “The favor of that Being in whose hands we are, who led our forefathers, as Israel of old, from their native land.”
Were the Founders Religious?


8. And all of them were rooted in the Judeo-Christian values found in the Bible.
“52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” David Limbaugh

 

[PoliticalChic]

The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment. Our founders came from England to trade and get away from religious tyranny.

Free will is mainly an illusion and individualism, you are right every Jew and Christian has their own individual ideology of what being Jewish and Christian means, a buffet of a thousand flavors.

Judeo didn't exist in front of Christianity till Israel announce themselves as a self proclaimed state. Just because most of the founders were baptized didn't mean they were religious. It was pretty automatic in those days.

"The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment."
Gads, you're an imbecile.


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Most liberals simply don't realize that the First Amendment was not intended to protect government from religion. It was meant to protect religion from the government. It worked for about two hundred years, but then modern liberals reared their ugly heads and declared otherwise.

Since we have established that the US was not founded on any particular religion , I guess the Fed and State govs should refrain from any religious talk, laws, and religious symbols on government property.

It was founded based on the Bible.


Fact.

you must not have been born in America or know any American history


As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion;

Treaty of Tripoli - Wikipedia

You are either a fool, or a government school grad.


Both?

 

[PoliticalChic]

...from the public arena and the public's consciousness: because it is the only way Leftism can survive.



1. The Founders were all deeply religious, steeped in Judeo-Christian tradition and the Bible. This was the warning:

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other" John Adams to Massachusetts Militia, 11 October 1798




2. Compare that to the worldview of the elites, and the operators of government school:

"Just because any religious idea, any idea of any god at all, any flirtation even with a god, is the most inexpressible foulness, particularly tolerantly (and often even favourably) accepted by the democratic bourgeoisie—for that very reason it is the most dangerous foulness, the most shameful “infection.” A million physical sins, dirty tricks, acts of violence and infections are much more easily discovered by the crowd, and therefore are much less dangerous, than the nubile, spiritual idea of god, dressed up in the most attractive “ideological” costumes."
Letter from Lenin to Maxim Gorky, Written on November 13 or 14, 1913



3. Those who have accepted Liberalism, postmodernism, Progressivism, mock the idea of the Judeo-Christian God, and compare same to Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy.
And, they must.
Because if they accept the traditional view of God....then they would be forced to accept the corollary, the view that Evil, or Satan, or Lucifer, exist as well.....and the evidence would prove that Leftism is animated by that evil.




4. Compare Ronald Reagan's response to the what he named 'the evil empire' to Obama, who embraced and supported evil early on in his political career.

And, this is no surprise, as Barack Obama's mentor was Saul Alinsky, proud of his affiliation with the personification of evil:

"Alinsky dedicated his book to none other than the fallen angel Lucifer, yes that Lucifer, whom he describes as "the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment (that would be God) and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom." Webutante: The Late Saul Alinsky, Obama's Radical Community Organizer Inspirer-in-Chief




If the true animator of Leftism was revealed....the American people would never support any of its iterations:
Liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism, Communism, Socialism or Fascism.
Never.


So....their mission is to banish God and religion.

you're a loon.

go ahead, cut and paste queen, tell me I have no religion.

I have religion. it just isn't yours. and our first amendment says you don't get to tell me or anyone else what to believe in.

I know how rightwingnuts hate that.

but you know what? tough. you're hate and lunacy is really, really boring.

You are a Liberal.....that is your religion.
You may pretend otherwise, but your posts give it away.


There is an old saying....
Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt

I strongly suggest you take that advice to heart.

 

[Penelope]

"The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment."
Gads, you're an imbecile.


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Most liberals simply don't realize that the First Amendment was not intended to protect government from religion. It was meant to protect religion from the government. It worked for about two hundred years, but then modern liberals reared their ugly heads and declared otherwise.

Since we have established that the US was not founded on any particular religion , I guess the Fed and State govs should refrain from any religious talk, laws, and religious symbols on government property.

It was founded based on the Bible.


Fact.

No it was not.. Freedom of religion does not sound like it was based on the bible , does it now??

Here we go again.


Let's prove you're a moron.


The Constitution provides for an observance of the Sabbath in its Presentment Clause, mandating that the President has ten days, excluding Sundays, to veto a bill lest it become binding.

And the instrument was framed with a view to the Declaration, which unequivocally bestows gratitude on the God of the Bible for America's independence.


1. " The most quoted source was the Bible. Established in the original writings of our Founding Fathers we find that they discovered in Isaiah 33:22 the three branches of government: Isaiah 33:22 “For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us.” Here we see the judicial, the legislative and the executive branches. In Ezra 7:24 we see where they established the tax exempt status of the church: Ezra 7:24 “Also we certify you, that touching any of the priests and Levites, singers, porters, Nethinims, or ministers of this house of God, it shall not be lawful to impose toll, tribute, or custom, upon them.”

When we look at our Constitution we see in Article 4 Section 4 that we are guaranteed a Republican form of government, that was found in Exodus 18 “Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, and rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens:” This indicates that we are to choose, or elect God fearing men and women. Looking at Article 3 Section 3 we see almost word for word Deuteronomy 17:6: ‘No person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses. . .’ Deuteronomy 17:6 “At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses. . .”. The next paragraph in Article 3 Section 3 refers to who should pay the price for treason. In England, they could punish the sons for the trespasses of the father, if the father died."
Roger Anghis -- Bring America Back To Her Religious Roots, Part 7


BTW....there is a specific reference to Jesus Christ in the Constitution.

Oh where in the constitution is the reference to Jesus Christ?

 

[jillian]

"The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment."
Gads, you're an imbecile.


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Most liberals simply don't realize that the First Amendment was not intended to protect government from religion. It was meant to protect religion from the government. It worked for about two hundred years, but then modern liberals reared their ugly heads and declared otherwise.

Since we have established that the US was not founded on any particular religion , I guess the Fed and State govs should refrain from any religious talk, laws, and religious symbols on government property.

It was founded based on the Bible.


Fact.

No it was not.. Freedom of religion does not sound like it was based on the bible , does it now??

Here we go again.


Let's prove you're a moron.


The Constitution provides for an observance of the Sabbath in its Presentment Clause, mandating that the President has ten days, excluding Sundays, to veto a bill lest it become binding.

And the instrument was framed with a view to the Declaration, which unequivocally bestows gratitude on the God of the Bible for America's independence.


1. " The most quoted source was the Bible. Established in the original writings of our Founding Fathers we find that they discovered in Isaiah 33:22 the three branches of government: Isaiah 33:22 “For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us.” Here we see the judicial, the legislative and the executive branches. In Ezra 7:24 we see where they established the tax exempt status of the church: Ezra 7:24 “Also we certify you, that touching any of the priests and Levites, singers, porters, Nethinims, or ministers of this house of God, it shall not be lawful to impose toll, tribute, or custom, upon them.”

When we look at our Constitution we see in Article 4 Section 4 that we are guaranteed a Republican form of government, that was found in Exodus 18 “Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, and rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens:” This indicates that we are to choose, or elect God fearing men and women. Looking at Article 3 Section 3 we see almost word for word Deuteronomy 17:6: ‘No person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses. . .’ Deuteronomy 17:6 “At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses. . .”. The next paragraph in Article 3 Section 3 refers to who should pay the price for treason. In England, they could punish the sons for the trespasses of the father, if the father died."
http://www.newswithviews.com/Anghis/roger106.htm


BTW....there is a specific reference to Jesus Christ in the Constitution.

yes, only the cut and paste queen knows what everyone else believes and doesn't believe.

that proves YOU'RE the moron

 

[Penelope]

This guy is a religious nutcase.


Alice's (aka PC) man- Pastor Roger Anghis

 

[BS Filter]

Most liberals simply don't realize that the First Amendment was not intended to protect government from religion. It was meant to protect religion from the government. It worked for about two hundred years, but then modern liberals reared their ugly heads and declared otherwise.

Since we have established that the US was not founded on any particular religion , I guess the Fed and State govs should refrain from any religious talk, laws, and religious symbols on government property.

It was founded based on the Bible.


Fact.

No it was not.. Freedom of religion does not sound like it was based on the bible , does it now??

Here we go again.


Let's prove you're a moron.


The Constitution provides for an observance of the Sabbath in its Presentment Clause, mandating that the President has ten days, excluding Sundays, to veto a bill lest it become binding.

And the instrument was framed with a view to the Declaration, which unequivocally bestows gratitude on the God of the Bible for America's independence.


1. " The most quoted source was the Bible. Established in the original writings of our Founding Fathers we find that they discovered in Isaiah 33:22 the three branches of government: Isaiah 33:22 “For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us.” Here we see the judicial, the legislative and the executive branches. In Ezra 7:24 we see where they established the tax exempt status of the church: Ezra 7:24 “Also we certify you, that touching any of the priests and Levites, singers, porters, Nethinims, or ministers of this house of God, it shall not be lawful to impose toll, tribute, or custom, upon them.”

When we look at our Constitution we see in Article 4 Section 4 that we are guaranteed a Republican form of government, that was found in Exodus 18 “Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, and rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens:” This indicates that we are to choose, or elect God fearing men and women. Looking at Article 3 Section 3 we see almost word for word Deuteronomy 17:6: ‘No person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses. . .’ Deuteronomy 17:6 “At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses. . .”. The next paragraph in Article 3 Section 3 refers to who should pay the price for treason. In England, they could punish the sons for the trespasses of the father, if the father died."
Roger Anghis -- Bring America Back To Her Religious Roots, Part 7


BTW....there is a specific reference to Jesus Christ in the Constitution.

Oh where in the constitution is the reference to Jesus Christ?

Well, I'm not aware of the reference to Jesus in the Constitution, but the Declaration of Independence certainly mentions the Creator, which the Bible states is Jesus Christ.

 

[Penelope]

Since we have established that the US was not founded on any particular religion , I guess the Fed and State govs should refrain from any religious talk, laws, and religious symbols on government property.

It was founded based on the Bible.


Fact.

No it was not.. Freedom of religion does not sound like it was based on the bible , does it now??

Here we go again.


Let's prove you're a moron.


The Constitution provides for an observance of the Sabbath in its Presentment Clause, mandating that the President has ten days, excluding Sundays, to veto a bill lest it become binding.

And the instrument was framed with a view to the Declaration, which unequivocally bestows gratitude on the God of the Bible for America's independence.


1. " The most quoted source was the Bible. Established in the original writings of our Founding Fathers we find that they discovered in Isaiah 33:22 the three branches of government: Isaiah 33:22 “For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us.” Here we see the judicial, the legislative and the executive branches. In Ezra 7:24 we see where they established the tax exempt status of the church: Ezra 7:24 “Also we certify you, that touching any of the priests and Levites, singers, porters, Nethinims, or ministers of this house of God, it shall not be lawful to impose toll, tribute, or custom, upon them.”

When we look at our Constitution we see in Article 4 Section 4 that we are guaranteed a Republican form of government, that was found in Exodus 18 “Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, and rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens:” This indicates that we are to choose, or elect God fearing men and women. Looking at Article 3 Section 3 we see almost word for word Deuteronomy 17:6: ‘No person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses. . .’ Deuteronomy 17:6 “At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses. . .”. The next paragraph in Article 3 Section 3 refers to who should pay the price for treason. In England, they could punish the sons for the trespasses of the father, if the father died."
Roger Anghis -- Bring America Back To Her Religious Roots, Part 7


BTW....there is a specific reference to Jesus Christ in the Constitution.

Oh where in the constitution is the reference to Jesus Christ?

Well, I'm not aware of the reference to Jesus in the Constitution, but the Declaration of Independence certainly mentions the Creator, which the Bible states is Jesus Christ.

That is right, and Creator means different things to different people.

The Baptist said it well.

Mission & History—Church-State Separation
Mission & History
The BJC’s mission is to defend and extend God-given religious liberty for all, furthering the Baptist heritage that champions the principle that religion must be freely exercised, neither advanced nor inhibited by government.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Most liberals simply don't realize that the First Amendment was not intended to protect government from religion. It was meant to protect religion from the government. It worked for about two hundred years, but then modern liberals reared their ugly heads and declared otherwise.

Since we have established that the US was not founded on any particular religion , I guess the Fed and State govs should refrain from any religious talk, laws, and religious symbols on government property.

It was founded based on the Bible.


Fact.

No it was not.. Freedom of religion does not sound like it was based on the bible , does it now??

Here we go again.


Let's prove you're a moron.


The Constitution provides for an observance of the Sabbath in its Presentment Clause, mandating that the President has ten days, excluding Sundays, to veto a bill lest it become binding.

And the instrument was framed with a view to the Declaration, which unequivocally bestows gratitude on the God of the Bible for America's independence.


1. " The most quoted source was the Bible. Established in the original writings of our Founding Fathers we find that they discovered in Isaiah 33:22 the three branches of government: Isaiah 33:22 “For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us.” Here we see the judicial, the legislative and the executive branches. In Ezra 7:24 we see where they established the tax exempt status of the church: Ezra 7:24 “Also we certify you, that touching any of the priests and Levites, singers, porters, Nethinims, or ministers of this house of God, it shall not be lawful to impose toll, tribute, or custom, upon them.”

When we look at our Constitution we see in Article 4 Section 4 that we are guaranteed a Republican form of government, that was found in Exodus 18 “Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, and rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens:” This indicates that we are to choose, or elect God fearing men and women. Looking at Article 3 Section 3 we see almost word for word Deuteronomy 17:6: ‘No person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses. . .’ Deuteronomy 17:6 “At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses. . .”. The next paragraph in Article 3 Section 3 refers to who should pay the price for treason. In England, they could punish the sons for the trespasses of the father, if the father died."
Roger Anghis -- Bring America Back To Her Religious Roots, Part 7


BTW....there is a specific reference to Jesus Christ in the Constitution.

Oh where in the constitution is the reference to Jesus Christ?

By now you should know better than to doubt me.


You are a slow learner, huh>


At the end of article seven.

 

[Penelope]

Since we have established that the US was not founded on any particular religion , I guess the Fed and State govs should refrain from any religious talk, laws, and religious symbols on government property.

It was founded based on the Bible.


Fact.

No it was not.. Freedom of religion does not sound like it was based on the bible , does it now??

Here we go again.


Let's prove you're a moron.


The Constitution provides for an observance of the Sabbath in its Presentment Clause, mandating that the President has ten days, excluding Sundays, to veto a bill lest it become binding.

And the instrument was framed with a view to the Declaration, which unequivocally bestows gratitude on the God of the Bible for America's independence.


1. " The most quoted source was the Bible. Established in the original writings of our Founding Fathers we find that they discovered in Isaiah 33:22 the three branches of government: Isaiah 33:22 “For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us.” Here we see the judicial, the legislative and the executive branches. In Ezra 7:24 we see where they established the tax exempt status of the church: Ezra 7:24 “Also we certify you, that touching any of the priests and Levites, singers, porters, Nethinims, or ministers of this house of God, it shall not be lawful to impose toll, tribute, or custom, upon them.”

When we look at our Constitution we see in Article 4 Section 4 that we are guaranteed a Republican form of government, that was found in Exodus 18 “Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, and rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens:” This indicates that we are to choose, or elect God fearing men and women. Looking at Article 3 Section 3 we see almost word for word Deuteronomy 17:6: ‘No person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses. . .’ Deuteronomy 17:6 “At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses. . .”. The next paragraph in Article 3 Section 3 refers to who should pay the price for treason. In England, they could punish the sons for the trespasses of the father, if the father died."
Roger Anghis -- Bring America Back To Her Religious Roots, Part 7


BTW....there is a specific reference to Jesus Christ in the Constitution.

Oh where in the constitution is the reference to Jesus Christ?

By now you should know better than to doubt me.


You are a slow learner, huh>


At the end of article seven.

Oh I can surely doubt you and your pea brain. Now show me?? where in the Constitution it says "Jesus Christ"

 

[PoliticalChic]

Most liberals simply don't realize that the First Amendment was not intended to protect government from religion. It was meant to protect religion from the government. It worked for about two hundred years, but then modern liberals reared their ugly heads and declared otherwise.

Since we have established that the US was not founded on any particular religion , I guess the Fed and State govs should refrain from any religious talk, laws, and religious symbols on government property.

It was founded based on the Bible.


Fact.

No it was not.. Freedom of religion does not sound like it was based on the bible , does it now??

Here we go again.


Let's prove you're a moron.


The Constitution provides for an observance of the Sabbath in its Presentment Clause, mandating that the President has ten days, excluding Sundays, to veto a bill lest it become binding.

And the instrument was framed with a view to the Declaration, which unequivocally bestows gratitude on the God of the Bible for America's independence.


1. " The most quoted source was the Bible. Established in the original writings of our Founding Fathers we find that they discovered in Isaiah 33:22 the three branches of government: Isaiah 33:22 “For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us.” Here we see the judicial, the legislative and the executive branches. In Ezra 7:24 we see where they established the tax exempt status of the church: Ezra 7:24 “Also we certify you, that touching any of the priests and Levites, singers, porters, Nethinims, or ministers of this house of God, it shall not be lawful to impose toll, tribute, or custom, upon them.”

When we look at our Constitution we see in Article 4 Section 4 that we are guaranteed a Republican form of government, that was found in Exodus 18 “Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, and rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens:” This indicates that we are to choose, or elect God fearing men and women. Looking at Article 3 Section 3 we see almost word for word Deuteronomy 17:6: ‘No person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses. . .’ Deuteronomy 17:6 “At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses. . .”. The next paragraph in Article 3 Section 3 refers to who should pay the price for treason. In England, they could punish the sons for the trespasses of the father, if the father died."
Roger Anghis -- Bring America Back To Her Religious Roots, Part 7


BTW....there is a specific reference to Jesus Christ in the Constitution.

yes, only the cut and paste queen knows what everyone else believes and doesn't believe.

that proves YOU'RE the moron

Dear, dear Jill.....

You know how much it pains me to expose your ignorance....but, alas....if you insist....


As I said, you Democrats/Liberals have no religion but Liberalism....

.....just one of the many doctrines of your political party that you are clueless about (challenge me on that, I dare you)...

...but, let's prove the first:

Democrats Boo God!





Democrats deny God 3 times at the DNC vote...How ironic...and Biblical!




Democrats heckle opening prayer






Can I get an Amen!!!

 

[PoliticalChic]

Since we have established that the US was not founded on any particular religion , I guess the Fed and State govs should refrain from any religious talk, laws, and religious symbols on government property.

It was founded based on the Bible.


Fact.

No it was not.. Freedom of religion does not sound like it was based on the bible , does it now??

Here we go again.


Let's prove you're a moron.


The Constitution provides for an observance of the Sabbath in its Presentment Clause, mandating that the President has ten days, excluding Sundays, to veto a bill lest it become binding.

And the instrument was framed with a view to the Declaration, which unequivocally bestows gratitude on the God of the Bible for America's independence.


1. " The most quoted source was the Bible. Established in the original writings of our Founding Fathers we find that they discovered in Isaiah 33:22 the three branches of government: Isaiah 33:22 “For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us.” Here we see the judicial, the legislative and the executive branches. In Ezra 7:24 we see where they established the tax exempt status of the church: Ezra 7:24 “Also we certify you, that touching any of the priests and Levites, singers, porters, Nethinims, or ministers of this house of God, it shall not be lawful to impose toll, tribute, or custom, upon them.”

When we look at our Constitution we see in Article 4 Section 4 that we are guaranteed a Republican form of government, that was found in Exodus 18 “Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, and rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens:” This indicates that we are to choose, or elect God fearing men and women. Looking at Article 3 Section 3 we see almost word for word Deuteronomy 17:6: ‘No person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses. . .’ Deuteronomy 17:6 “At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses. . .”. The next paragraph in Article 3 Section 3 refers to who should pay the price for treason. In England, they could punish the sons for the trespasses of the father, if the father died."
Roger Anghis -- Bring America Back To Her Religious Roots, Part 7


BTW....there is a specific reference to Jesus Christ in the Constitution.

Oh where in the constitution is the reference to Jesus Christ?

Well, I'm not aware of the reference to Jesus in the Constitution, but the Declaration of Independence certainly mentions the Creator, which the Bible states is Jesus Christ.

Even more!

There are four references to ‘Divine’ in D of I… 1)in first paragraph ‘Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,’
2) next paragraph ‘endowed by their Creator,”
3) Supreme Judge of the world, and
4) ‘divine’ Providence, last paragraph.

This is important because our historic documents memorialize a government based on individuals born with inalienable rights, by, in various references, by the Divine, or Nature’s God, or their Creator, or the Supreme Judge, or divine Providence.


Since these rights are associated with each individual, they cannot be withdrawn, or subjugated to the will of a governing body.


Despite the secular nature of our national government, there is one unambiguous reference to Christ in the Constitution. Article VII dates the Constitution in "the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven."

"The Year of Our Lord" and separation.

 

[PoliticalChic]

This guy is a religious nutcase.


Alice's (aka PC) man- Pastor Roger Anghis

As you have been unable to deny any part of my post....

...that means I win again, huh?

 

[BS Filter]

It was founded based on the Bible.


Fact.

No it was not.. Freedom of religion does not sound like it was based on the bible , does it now??

Here we go again.


Let's prove you're a moron.


The Constitution provides for an observance of the Sabbath in its Presentment Clause, mandating that the President has ten days, excluding Sundays, to veto a bill lest it become binding.

And the instrument was framed with a view to the Declaration, which unequivocally bestows gratitude on the God of the Bible for America's independence.


1. " The most quoted source was the Bible. Established in the original writings of our Founding Fathers we find that they discovered in Isaiah 33:22 the three branches of government: Isaiah 33:22 “For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us.” Here we see the judicial, the legislative and the executive branches. In Ezra 7:24 we see where they established the tax exempt status of the church: Ezra 7:24 “Also we certify you, that touching any of the priests and Levites, singers, porters, Nethinims, or ministers of this house of God, it shall not be lawful to impose toll, tribute, or custom, upon them.”

When we look at our Constitution we see in Article 4 Section 4 that we are guaranteed a Republican form of government, that was found in Exodus 18 “Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, and rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens:” This indicates that we are to choose, or elect God fearing men and women. Looking at Article 3 Section 3 we see almost word for word Deuteronomy 17:6: ‘No person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses. . .’ Deuteronomy 17:6 “At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses. . .”. The next paragraph in Article 3 Section 3 refers to who should pay the price for treason. In England, they could punish the sons for the trespasses of the father, if the father died."
Roger Anghis -- Bring America Back To Her Religious Roots, Part 7


BTW....there is a specific reference to Jesus Christ in the Constitution.

Oh where in the constitution is the reference to Jesus Christ?

Well, I'm not aware of the reference to Jesus in the Constitution, but the Declaration of Independence certainly mentions the Creator, which the Bible states is Jesus Christ.

That is right, and Creator means different things to different people.

The Baptist said it well.

Mission & History—Church-State Separation
Mission & History
The BJC’s mission is to defend and extend God-given religious liberty for all, furthering the Baptist heritage that champions the principle that religion must be freely exercised, neither advanced nor inhibited by government.

I understand "different people" have definitions all their own, but the founders knew exactly who the Creator is.

 

[Penelope]

It was founded based on the Bible.


Fact.

No it was not.. Freedom of religion does not sound like it was based on the bible , does it now??

Here we go again.


Let's prove you're a moron.


The Constitution provides for an observance of the Sabbath in its Presentment Clause, mandating that the President has ten days, excluding Sundays, to veto a bill lest it become binding.

And the instrument was framed with a view to the Declaration, which unequivocally bestows gratitude on the God of the Bible for America's independence.


1. " The most quoted source was the Bible. Established in the original writings of our Founding Fathers we find that they discovered in Isaiah 33:22 the three branches of government: Isaiah 33:22 “For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us.” Here we see the judicial, the legislative and the executive branches. In Ezra 7:24 we see where they established the tax exempt status of the church: Ezra 7:24 “Also we certify you, that touching any of the priests and Levites, singers, porters, Nethinims, or ministers of this house of God, it shall not be lawful to impose toll, tribute, or custom, upon them.”

When we look at our Constitution we see in Article 4 Section 4 that we are guaranteed a Republican form of government, that was found in Exodus 18 “Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, and rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens:” This indicates that we are to choose, or elect God fearing men and women. Looking at Article 3 Section 3 we see almost word for word Deuteronomy 17:6: ‘No person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses. . .’ Deuteronomy 17:6 “At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses. . .”. The next paragraph in Article 3 Section 3 refers to who should pay the price for treason. In England, they could punish the sons for the trespasses of the father, if the father died."
Roger Anghis -- Bring America Back To Her Religious Roots, Part 7


BTW....there is a specific reference to Jesus Christ in the Constitution.

Oh where in the constitution is the reference to Jesus Christ?

Well, I'm not aware of the reference to Jesus in the Constitution, but the Declaration of Independence certainly mentions the Creator, which the Bible states is Jesus Christ.

Even more!

There are four references to ‘Divine’ in D of I… 1)in first paragraph ‘Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,’
2) next paragraph ‘endowed by their Creator,”
3) Supreme Judge of the world, and
4) ‘divine’ Providence, last paragraph.

This is important because our historic documents memorialize a government based on individuals born with inalienable rights, by, in various references, by the Divine, or Nature’s God, or their Creator, or the Supreme Judge, or divine Providence.


Since these rights are associated with each individual, they cannot be withdrawn, or subjugated to the will of a governing body.


Despite the secular nature of our national government, there is one unambiguous reference to Christ in the Constitution. Article VII dates the Constitution in "the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven."

"The Year of Our Lord" and separation.

God is a generic term and so is Our Lord, do you not know what they called Emperors of Rome? or other Kings or Masters.

All your words are generic terms. What year is the "year of our lord" and who does lord mean?

Thank you , you made my case.