Why Palestinians don't just leave Gaza?? Difficul to do!

Israel is founded on terrorism, yet you support Israel.

From UN Resolution AC/364 of 3 September 1947


""The right of any community to use force as a means of gaining its political ends is riot admitted in the British Commonwealth. Since the beginning of 1945 the Jews have implicitly claimed this right and have supported by an organized campaign of lawlessness, murder and sabotage their contention that, whatever other interests might be concerned, nothing should be allowed to stand in the way of a Jewish State and free Jewish immigration into Palestine..."




More manipulated UN archive material

No, just a direct quote from the UN Resolution. I see that now that the facts are irrefutable and prove that all you post is Zionist propaganda, you will now claim that direct verbatim quotes from UN Resolutions are "manipulated". It's like the silly "customary international law" technique in a new guise. You have lost Phoney, everything you believe is false.




A manipulated quote to say what you believe. You have been shown to do this a lot, and not only on here.

Just a direct quote from the UN Resolution, no manipulation. What I believe is fact, that's what irks you. What you believe is fantasy and propaganda.

I have never been shown to manipulate quotes LIAR.



Then where is the rest that says a different thing to this tiny part.
 
My apologies for not getting the link to post on here...so, I know you won't entertain this assertion....nonetheless (for the sake of underscoring how TWO wrongs do not make a right) here it is:

Since virtually every comment on Hamas in American media includes the assertion that the group’s Charter rejects Israel’s right to exist, it’s worth noting the following from the Likud Platform of 1999:
a. “The Jordan river will be the permanent eastern border of the State of Israel.”
b. “Jerusalem is the eternal, united capital of the State of Israel and only of Israel.
The government will flatly reject Palestinian proposals to divide Jerusalem”
c. “The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river.”
d. “The Jewish communities in Judea, Samaria and Gaza are the realization of Zionist values. Settlement of the land is a clear expression of the unassailable right of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel and constitutes an important asset in the defense of the vital interests of the State of Israel. The Likud will continue to strengthen and develop these communities and will prevent their uprooting.

And now 16 years later what is the Likud platform today ?

reject Palestinian proposals to divide Jerusalem”
c. “The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river.”
d. “The Jewish communities in Judea, Samaria and Gaza are the realization of Zionist values. Settlement of the land is a clear expression of the unassailable right of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel and constitutes an important asset in the defense of the vital interests of the State of Israel. The Likud will continue to strengthen and develop these communities and will prevent their uprooting.
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And now 16 years later what is the Likud platform today ?

Ah, phoney....typical right wing imbecillity...You're willing to let by-gones-be by-gone for the Likud party but NOT for Hamas?




No I asked you a leading question and you knew if you answered it honestly you would have egg on your face. Just as if you stated that hamas changed their charter in 2005 to be elected I would call you out as a LIAR, as all they did was remove it from their election manifesto. It is still in their charter and was never removed.
Just as fatah's charter also contains the same words and has never been altered since their inception.

Now to answer your reply when hamas shows a willingness to put down their weapons, stop murdering Israeli children and want to negotiate a just and lasting peace and mutual borders.
 
I am NOT taking Hamas' side regarding their statement to destroy Israel....and, accordingly that statement was revoked.....

However, why should we excuse the Likud Party for their statement that they wanted to destroy any chance of a Palestinian state????

Is the above because Isarelis have more power in DC??? More money to spend with their lobbyists? Is it because Isarelis speak bettwe English and therefore they're more of our "allies"??
The statemetn was not revoked. Hamas is dedicated to the destruction of Israel. It is on their website, it is part of their charter, it is every day in their annoucements. Like yesterday, as a matter of fact.
Hamas Leader Calls for More Kidnappings of Israelis Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com


BULLSHIT, rabbi...you are citing something out of the Times in Israel, about ONE nutjob within Hamas....that is NOT part of the Hamas' Charter or Manifesto.....

Stick those links right up your Jewish behind.




A pity then that it is widely reported that hamas has increased the tunnel building just for that one purpose, and admits it freely just about every week. And that report contains words from the hamas charter as spoken by the hamas terrorist scum.
 
I am NOT taking Hamas' side regarding their statement to destroy Israel....and, accordingly that statement was revoked.....

However, why should we excuse the Likud Party for their statement that they wanted to destroy any chance of a Palestinian state????

Is the above because Isarelis have more power in DC??? More money to spend with their lobbyists? Is it because Isarelis speak bettwe English and therefore they're more of our "allies"??
The statemetn was not revoked. Hamas is dedicated to the destruction of Israel. It is on their website, it is part of their charter, it is every day in their annoucements. Like yesterday, as a matter of fact.
Hamas Leader Calls for More Kidnappings of Israelis Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com

In general, the Palestinians what to do to the Jews what the Jews did to them. I don't think it is unusual, do you? Israel was dedicated to the destruction of an independent Palestine thru the creation of a Jewish state on more than half of Palestine.




LIAR
 
Israel is founded on terrorism, yet you support Israel.

From UN Resolution AC/364 of 3 September 1947


""The right of any community to use force as a means of gaining its political ends is riot admitted in the British Commonwealth. Since the beginning of 1945 the Jews have implicitly claimed this right and have supported by an organized campaign of lawlessness, murder and sabotage their contention that, whatever other interests might be concerned, nothing should be allowed to stand in the way of a Jewish State and free Jewish immigration into Palestine..."




More manipulated UN archive material

No, just a direct quote from the UN Resolution. I see that now that the facts are irrefutable and prove that all you post is Zionist propaganda, you will now claim that direct verbatim quotes from UN Resolutions are "manipulated". It's like the silly "customary international law" technique in a new guise. You have lost Phoney, everything you believe is false.




A manipulated quote to say what you believe. You have been shown to do this a lot, and not only on here.

Just a direct quote from the UN Resolution, no manipulation. What I believe is fact, that's what irks you. What you believe is fantasy and propaganda.

I have never been shown to manipulate quotes LIAR.



Then where is the rest that says a different thing to this tiny part.

The rest of the resolution was linked, push on the link and read it. It doesn't say anything different. Facts are facts.
 
I am NOT taking Hamas' side regarding their statement to destroy Israel....and, accordingly that statement was revoked.....

However, why should we excuse the Likud Party for their statement that they wanted to destroy any chance of a Palestinian state????

Is the above because Isarelis have more power in DC??? More money to spend with their lobbyists? Is it because Isarelis speak better English and therefore they're more of our "allies"??



When was it revoked then, and you will be able to produce the new charter with sigatures and dates on it for tHt tme
 
Now ''If'' you were to claim that the IDF used soft rubber bendy wands to defend themselves, I to would cal you out as an ''insane Liar . So why do you continually deny IDF Murders ???

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Former Israel Defense Forces (IDF) combat soldier and company sergeant Eran Efrati, 28, has become the Edward Snowden of Israel. This brave whistleblower has now found himself arrested and interrogated by the Israeli authorities nothing more than speaking out agains the use of illegal weapons in Gaza, and the carte blanche killing of Palestinian civilians by rogue members of the IDF.

Last week, on Tuesday, July 29, Efrati announced on Facebook that his confidential sources within the IDF had informed him that the “real reason” for the recent IDF Shuja’iyya massacre, which had been carried out just over a week earlier, on July 20, was that IDF soldiers were deliberately targeting civilians as “punishment” and “retribution” for the deaths of fellow soldiers in their units.
 
I am NOT taking Hamas' side regarding their statement to destroy Israel....and, accordingly that statement was revoked.....

However, why should we excuse the Likud Party for their statement that they wanted to destroy any chance of a Palestinian state????

Is the above because Isarelis have more power in DC??? More money to spend with their lobbyists? Is it because Isarelis speak bettwe English and therefore they're more of our "allies"??
The statemetn was not revoked. Hamas is dedicated to the destruction of Israel. It is on their website, it is part of their charter, it is every day in their annoucements. Like yesterday, as a matter of fact.
Hamas Leader Calls for More Kidnappings of Israelis Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com

In general, the Palestinians what to do to the Jews what the Jews did to them. I don't think it is unusual, do you? Israel was dedicated to the destruction of an independent Palestine thru the creation of a Jewish state on more than half of Palestine.




LIAR

No, there isn't the possibility of a lie in the statement.
 
The bottom line is as simple as it is true.......

Israel is quickly losing its long-held status as the "victim"...European newspapers are now labeling the Israeli government as the bullies and victimizers of Palestinians....European Parliaments are defying EVEN the US veto powers at the U.N and calling for recognition of a Palestinian State.

For most right wingers on here, it is not really any love lost for Netanyahu and his cohorts....it is simply hatred toward Obama who has taken a more objective stance on the Palestinian plight.

Israel is still given by us, almost 3/4 of all the foreign aid we give to other countries......and many Americans (including Jews) have had quite enough of the apartheid practices of the IDF, the belligerence by Israel (even toward us)...its incessant war and fear-mongering,....and with the advent of cell phone videos, the Palestinians' plight is no longer "theoretical" and second hand accounts, it is a REAL fact and the rest of the world is ready to loudly state.....ENOUGH !!!!
 
And now 16 years later what is the Likud platform today ?

reject Palestinian proposals to divide Jerusalem”
c. “The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river.”
d. “The Jewish communities in Judea, Samaria and Gaza are the realization of Zionist values. Settlement of the land is a clear expression of the unassailable right of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel and constitutes an important asset in the defense of the vital interests of the State of Israel. The Likud will continue to strengthen and develop these communities and will prevent their uprooting.
Click to expand...

And now 16 years later what is the Likud platform today ?

Ah, phoney....typical right wing imbecillity...You're willing to let by-gones-be by-gone for the Likud party but NOT for Hamas?
Are you still denying that Hamas is dedicated to Israel's destruction?
Since virtually every comment on Hamas in American media includes the assertion that the group’s Charter rejects Israel’s right to exist, it’s worth noting the following from the Likud Platform of 1999:
a. “The Jordan river will be the permanent eastern border of the State of Israel.”
b. “Jerusalem is the eternal, united capital of the State of Israel and only of Israel.
The government will flatly reject Palestinian proposals to divide Jerusalem”
c. “The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river.”
d. “The Jewish communities in Judea, Samaria and Gaza are the realization of Zionist values. Settlement of the land is a clear expression of the unassailable right of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel and constitutes an important asset in the defense of the vital interests of the State of Israel. The Likud will continue to strengthen and develop these communities and will prevent their uprooting.
Click to expand...
And now 16 years later what is the Likud platform today ?
Click to expand...
reject Palestinian proposals to divide Jerusalem”
c. “The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river.”
d. “The Jewish communities in Judea, Samaria and Gaza are the realization of Zionist values. Settlement of the land is a clear expression of the unassailable right of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel and constitutes an important asset in the defense of the vital interests of the State of Israel. The Likud will continue to strengthen and develop these communities and will prevent their uprooting.
Click to expand...

And now 16 years later what is the Likud platform today ?

Ah, phoney....typical right wing imbecillity...You're willing to let by-gones-be by-gone for the Likud party but NOT for Hamas?
Click to expand...
Are you still denying that Hamas is dedicated to Israel's destruction?


Only just as much as you are denying that the Likud party is "dedicated to the destruction" of Palestinians.....

Get your yarmukle out of your ears and eyes, rabbi........whether you know it or not (and you probably don't as an Israeli ass-kisser.....your ilk is contributing to MORE Israelis getting killed.
You are deflecting. I am asking you whether Hamas' charter today calls for the destruction of Israel. I dont care about Likud from 20 years ago.
The answer is Yes, Hamas is dedicated today to the destruction of Israel and the killing of Jews. Israel is dedicated to keeping its territorial integrity and security and living in peace with its neighbors.
There's the difference. All your spin, irrelevant comments and comparison, and deflections are merely cover for your bullshit.

I am asking you whether Hamas' charter today calls for the destruction of Israe

ONE MORE FREAKING TIME, rabbi........
Hamas drops call for destruction of Israel from manifesto World news The Guardian
Hamas has dropped its call for the destruction of Israel from its manifesto for the Palestinian parliamentary election in a fortnight, a move that brings the group closer to the mainstream Palestinian position of building a state within the boundaries of the occupied territories
.

The manifesto makes no mention of the destruction of the Jewish state and instead takes a more ambiguous position by saying that Hamas had decided to compete in the elections because it would contribute to "the establishment of an independent state whose capital is Jerusalem".
The shift in emphasis comes as Hamas finds itself under pressure from the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, and from foreign governments to accept Israel's right to exist and to end its violence if it wants to be accepted as a political partner in a future administration.
Last time you dishonest piece of shit. Does Hamas today call for the destruction of Israel? ANswer, yes.
http://www.qassam.ps/news-3735-Zahar_Jews_will_soon_be_expelled_from_Palestine.html
 
I am NOT taking Hamas' side regarding their statement to destroy Israel....and, accordingly that statement was revoked.....

However, why should we excuse the Likud Party for their statement that they wanted to destroy any chance of a Palestinian state????

Is the above because Isarelis have more power in DC??? More money to spend with their lobbyists? Is it because Isarelis speak bettwe English and therefore they're more of our "allies"??
The statemetn was not revoked. Hamas is dedicated to the destruction of Israel. It is on their website, it is part of their charter, it is every day in their annoucements. Like yesterday, as a matter of fact.
Hamas Leader Calls for More Kidnappings of Israelis Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com

In general, the Palestinians what to do to the Jews what the Jews did to them. I don't think it is unusual, do you? Israel was dedicated to the destruction of an independent Palestine thru the creation of a Jewish state on more than half of Palestine.
You just contradicted yourself. If they wanted to create a Jewish state on half of Palestine then what were the plans for the other half? Right, that was to be the Palestinian state.
QED. Israel wants peace, Palestinians want murder.
 
The bottom line is as simple as it is true.......

Israel is quickly losing its long-held status as the "victim"...European newspapers are now labeling the Israeli government as the bullies and victimizers of Palestinians....European Parliaments are defying EVEN the US veto powers at the U.N and calling for recognition of a Palestinian State.

For most right wingers on here, it is not really any love lost for Netanyahu and his cohorts....it is simply hatred toward Obama who has taken a more objective stance on the Palestinian plight.

Israel is still given by us, almost 3/4 of all the foreign aid we give to other countries......and many Americans (including Jews) have had quite enough of the apartheid practices of the IDF, the belligerence by Israel (even toward us)...its incessant war and fear-mongering,....and with the advent of cell phone videos, the Palestinians' plight is no longer "theoretical" and second hand accounts, it is a REAL fact and the rest of the world is ready to loudly state.....ENOUGH !!!!
The bottom line is you are a stupid jew hater who cannot debate using facts and instead bleats Palestinian propaganda as though it were true, even though they are obvious lies.
 
I am NOT taking Hamas' side regarding their statement to destroy Israel....and, accordingly that statement was revoked.....

However, why should we excuse the Likud Party for their statement that they wanted to destroy any chance of a Palestinian state????

Is the above because Isarelis have more power in DC??? More money to spend with their lobbyists? Is it because Isarelis speak bettwe English and therefore they're more of our "allies"??
The statemetn was not revoked. Hamas is dedicated to the destruction of Israel. It is on their website, it is part of their charter, it is every day in their annoucements. Like yesterday, as a matter of fact.
Hamas Leader Calls for More Kidnappings of Israelis Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com

In general, the Palestinians what to do to the Jews what the Jews did to them. I don't think it is unusual, do you? Israel was dedicated to the destruction of an independent Palestine thru the creation of a Jewish state on more than half of Palestine.
You just contradicted yourself. If they wanted to create a Jewish state on half of Palestine then what were the plans for the other half? Right, that was to be the Palestinian state.
QED. Israel wants peace, Palestinians want murder.


Israel has never wanted peace, Israel has always wanted all of Palestine. The Europeans began evicting Muslims and Christians and occupied strategic areas destined to be part of a Christian and Muslims state and then Jordan occupied the West Bank after making a deal with the Israelis. It is possible your only exposure on the issue has been to propaganda.

"The Israeli government of the time pursued a policy of non- compromise, in order to prevent the return of the refugees “at any price” (as Ben Gurion himself put it), despite the fact that the UN General Assembly had been calling for this since 11 December 1948. Their villages were either destroyed or occupied by Jewish immigrants, and their lands were shared out between the surrounding kibbutzim. The law on “abandoned properties” - which was designed to make possible the seizure of any land belonging to persons who were “absent” - “legalised” this project of general confiscation as of December 1948. Almost 400 Arab villages were thus either wiped off the map or Judaised, as were most of the Arab quarters in mixed towns. According to a report drawn up in 1952, Israel had thus succeeded in expropriating 73,000 rooms in abandoned houses, 7,800 shops, workshops and warehouses, 5 million Palestinian pounds in bank accounts, and - most important of all - 300,000 hectares of land (11).


" the strategic advantage enjoyed by Israel as a result of its agreement with King Abdullah of Transjordan (in exchange for the West Bank, he undertook not to attack the territory allocated to Israel by the UN); British support for this compromise, together with the joint support of the United States and the Soviet Union; the sympathy of world public opinion and so forth.

The expulsion of the Palestinians re-examined - Le Monde diplomatique - English edition
 
I am NOT taking Hamas' side regarding their statement to destroy Israel....and, accordingly that statement was revoked.....

However, why should we excuse the Likud Party for their statement that they wanted to destroy any chance of a Palestinian state????

Is the above because Isarelis have more power in DC??? More money to spend with their lobbyists? Is it because Isarelis speak bettwe English and therefore they're more of our "allies"??
The statemetn was not revoked. Hamas is dedicated to the destruction of Israel. It is on their website, it is part of their charter, it is every day in their annoucements. Like yesterday, as a matter of fact.
Hamas Leader Calls for More Kidnappings of Israelis Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com

In general, the Palestinians what to do to the Jews what the Jews did to them. I don't think it is unusual, do you? Israel was dedicated to the destruction of an independent Palestine thru the creation of a Jewish state on more than half of Palestine.
You just contradicted yourself. If they wanted to create a Jewish state on half of Palestine then what were the plans for the other half? Right, that was to be the Palestinian state.
QED. Israel wants peace, Palestinians want murder.


Israel has never wanted peace, Israel has always wanted all of Palestine. The Europeans began evicting Muslims and Christians and occupied strategic areas destined to be part of a Christian and Muslims state and then Jordan occupied the West Bank after making a deal with the Israelis. It is possible your only exposure on the issue has been to propaganda.

"The Israeli government of the time pursued a policy of non- compromise, in order to prevent the return of the refugees “at any price” (as Ben Gurion himself put it), despite the fact that the UN General Assembly had been calling for this since 11 December 1948. Their villages were either destroyed or occupied by Jewish immigrants, and their lands were shared out between the surrounding kibbutzim. The law on “abandoned properties” - which was designed to make possible the seizure of any land belonging to persons who were “absent” - “legalised” this project of general confiscation as of December 1948. Almost 400 Arab villages were thus either wiped off the map or Judaised, as were most of the Arab quarters in mixed towns. According to a report drawn up in 1952, Israel had thus succeeded in expropriating 73,000 rooms in abandoned houses, 7,800 shops, workshops and warehouses, 5 million Palestinian pounds in bank accounts, and - most important of all - 300,000 hectares of land (11).


" the strategic advantage enjoyed by Israel as a result of its agreement with King Abdullah of Transjordan (in exchange for the West Bank, he undertook not to attack the territory allocated to Israel by the UN); British support for this compromise, together with the joint support of the United States and the Soviet Union; the sympathy of world public opinion and so forth.

The expulsion of the Palestinians re-examined - Le Monde diplomatique - English edition
You deflected from my point that you contradicted yourself in your post. Why is that?
 
I did not contradict myself in my post and I responded by providing a link that established that the European Zionists had no intention of permitting the establishment of the Arab Palestinian state. That's why they signed an agreement with Jordan to give most of the land assigned to the Christians and Muslims to Jordan. Can't you read? They still will not agree to the establishment of a Palestinian state.
 
Apparently, the Palestinians need to solve everyone's problem by getting rid of the Hamas terrorists.

No terrorists firing rockets, no airstrikes to take them out, no problems.


Well you'd need to reconcile the issue whether Hamas is a cause or an effect.
The 500-pound gorilla (Israel) does not need to analyze the 10-pound rabbit (Gaza). The 10-pound rabbit needs to cease and desist. Simple.
 
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I am NOT taking Hamas' side regarding their statement to destroy Israel....and, accordingly that statement was revoked.....

However, why should we excuse the Likud Party for their statement that they wanted to destroy any chance of a Palestinian state????

Is the above because Isarelis have more power in DC??? More money to spend with their lobbyists? Is it because Isarelis speak bettwe English and therefore they're more of our "allies"??
The statemetn was not revoked. Hamas is dedicated to the destruction of Israel. It is on their website, it is part of their charter, it is every day in their annoucements. Like yesterday, as a matter of fact.
Hamas Leader Calls for More Kidnappings of Israelis Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com

In general, the Palestinians what to do to the Jews what the Jews did to them. I don't think it is unusual, do you? Israel was dedicated to the destruction of an independent Palestine thru the creation of a Jewish state on more than half of Palestine.
You just contradicted yourself. If they wanted to create a Jewish state on half of Palestine then what were the plans for the other half? Right, that was to be the Palestinian state.
QED. Israel wants peace, Palestinians want murder.


Israel has never wanted peace, Israel has always wanted all of Palestine. The Europeans began evicting Muslims and Christians and occupied strategic areas destined to be part of a Christian and Muslims state and then Jordan occupied the West Bank after making a deal with the Israelis. It is possible your only exposure on the issue has been to propaganda.

"The Israeli government of the time pursued a policy of non- compromise, in order to prevent the return of the refugees “at any price” (as Ben Gurion himself put it), despite the fact that the UN General Assembly had been calling for this since 11 December 1948. Their villages were either destroyed or occupied by Jewish immigrants, and their lands were shared out between the surrounding kibbutzim. The law on “abandoned properties” - which was designed to make possible the seizure of any land belonging to persons who were “absent” - “legalised” this project of general confiscation as of December 1948. Almost 400 Arab villages were thus either wiped off the map or Judaised, as were most of the Arab quarters in mixed towns. According to a report drawn up in 1952, Israel had thus succeeded in expropriating 73,000 rooms in abandoned houses, 7,800 shops, workshops and warehouses, 5 million Palestinian pounds in bank accounts, and - most important of all - 300,000 hectares of land (11).


" the strategic advantage enjoyed by Israel as a result of its agreement with King Abdullah of Transjordan (in exchange for the West Bank, he undertook not to attack the territory allocated to Israel by the UN); British support for this compromise, together with the joint support of the United States and the Soviet Union; the sympathy of world public opinion and so forth.

The expulsion of the Palestinians re-examined - Le Monde diplomatique - English edition
Palestinians don't want peace, they want victory.
 
Apparently, the Palestinians need to solve everyone's problem by getting rid of the Hamas terrorists.

No terrorists firing rockets, no airstrikes to take them out, no problems.


Well you'd need to reconcile the issue whether Hamas is a cause or an effect.
The 500-pound gorilla (Israel) does not need to analyze the 10-pound rabbit (Gaza). The 10-pound rabbit needs to cease and desist. Simple.

The 500 pound gorilla of white ruled South Africa thought the same thing.
 
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