Why Palestinians don't just leave Gaza?? Difficul to do!

[montelatici]

I have a better idea.

Just go on Google and check out all the sites that discuss those Palestinian tunnels. There's actually a lot more information along the same lines, like where Egypt is constantly destroying tunnels that the Palestinians use to smuggle weapons into Gaza, since Egypt sealed their border in an attempt to cut down on weapons smuggling.

Well, I don't think that there is anything wrong for blockaded and occupied people to try to gather weapons, do you. The Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto did the same. Nothing wrong with it, in my opinion.

 

[toastman]

Billo

From your posts, it's evident Israel is taking out a lot of rockets. They are also finding quite a few terrorist tunnels.

Maybe Obama could learn a few things about fighting the "JV Team" from them....

The rockets are in response to the occupation. End the occupation and you end the rocket attacks.

As for the tunnels, they're mostly used to bring in goods and services to Gaza, because of the illegal and immoral blockade.

Gee, talk about a bald-faced lie...

Palestinian tunnel warfare in the Gaza Strip - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

In the Gaza Strip, the governing authorityHamas developed a sophisticated network of military tunnels. The internal tunnels, running some dozens of kilometres within the Gaza Strip,[1] have several functions. Hamas uses the tunnels to hide its arsenal of rocketry underground, to facilitate communication, to permit munition stocks to be hidden and to conceal militants, making detection from the air difficult.[2] By means of these tunnels, rockets could be launched by remote control.[1] One IDF expert said the low-tech network was effective in enabling Hamas "to move, conceal, surprise and disappear."[1]Additional, cross-border tunnels penetrated into Israel for the purpose of making cross-border raids with goals that include mass-casualty attacks and hostage-taking.[3][4][5][6][7]

The tunnel system branches beneath many Gazan towns and cities, such as Khan Yunis and Jabalia and the Shati refugee camp.[8] Destroying the tunnels was a primary objective of Israeli forces in the2014 Israel–Gaza conflict.[9] The number of tunnels going into Israel has been reported between 9[10] and 31.[11]

According to Eado Hecht, an Israeli defence analyst specialising in underground warfare, "Three different kinds of tunnels existed beneath Gaza, smuggling tunnels between Gaza and Egypt; defensive tunnels inside Gaza, used for command centres and weapons storage; and –connected to the defensive tunnels –offensive tunnels used for cross-border attacks on Israel", including the capture of Israeli soldiers.[12][13] Ihab al-Ghussein, spokesman for the Hamas-run interior ministry, describes the tunnels as an exercise of Gaza's "right to protect itself."[14] According to the Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the tunnels have been constructed by the military wing of Hamas under the Israel-Gaza border for the purpose of "terrorist attacks" on Israel.[15]The Israeli government refers to cross-border tunnels as "attack tunnels" or "terror tunnels."[15][6] The cross-border tunnels were used in the capture of Gilad Shalit in 2006, and multiple times during the 2014 conflict; in practice only Israeli military targets have successfully been attacked through them.[10][16] However, Israel reportedly stopped an attempt to raid a kibbutz during the war, and uncovered evidence that the tunnels were being prepared for massive attacks against Israeli civilians.[17][18]

Well, I am sure that the Hasbara folks haven't edited that Wiki article. Why do you even post Wiki nonsense when you know that Hasbara edits the articles on a daily basis?

ANYONE can edit Wikipedia. Also, you've used Wikipedia before. Instead of criticizing the source allllll the time, why don't you try and refute the post..

Toast, please show where I have used Wiki to back any of my claims.

,
i could have sworn I have seen you use Wikipedia recently because I remember responding how you always criticize the source but are using it now to back up a claim.
If you didn't use it, nvmdn, my bad

 

[Obiwan]

Well, I don't think that there is anything wrong for blockaded and occupied people to try to gather weapons, do you. The Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto did the same. Nothing wrong with it, in my opinion.

Except that Hamas keeps firing those rockets at innocent civilians in Israel.

If they would quit doing that, I would just bet the airstrikes to take those rockets out would stop.

 

[montelatici]

The rockets are in response to the occupation. End the occupation and you end the rocket attacks.

As for the tunnels, they're mostly used to bring in goods and services to Gaza, because of the illegal and immoral blockade.

Gee, talk about a bald-faced lie...

Palestinian tunnel warfare in the Gaza Strip - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

In the Gaza Strip, the governing authorityHamas developed a sophisticated network of military tunnels. The internal tunnels, running some dozens of kilometres within the Gaza Strip,[1] have several functions. Hamas uses the tunnels to hide its arsenal of rocketry underground, to facilitate communication, to permit munition stocks to be hidden and to conceal militants, making detection from the air difficult.[2] By means of these tunnels, rockets could be launched by remote control.[1] One IDF expert said the low-tech network was effective in enabling Hamas "to move, conceal, surprise and disappear."[1]Additional, cross-border tunnels penetrated into Israel for the purpose of making cross-border raids with goals that include mass-casualty attacks and hostage-taking.[3][4][5][6][7]

The tunnel system branches beneath many Gazan towns and cities, such as Khan Yunis and Jabalia and the Shati refugee camp.[8] Destroying the tunnels was a primary objective of Israeli forces in the2014 Israel–Gaza conflict.[9] The number of tunnels going into Israel has been reported between 9[10] and 31.[11]

According to Eado Hecht, an Israeli defence analyst specialising in underground warfare, "Three different kinds of tunnels existed beneath Gaza, smuggling tunnels between Gaza and Egypt; defensive tunnels inside Gaza, used for command centres and weapons storage; and –connected to the defensive tunnels –offensive tunnels used for cross-border attacks on Israel", including the capture of Israeli soldiers.[12][13] Ihab al-Ghussein, spokesman for the Hamas-run interior ministry, describes the tunnels as an exercise of Gaza's "right to protect itself."[14] According to the Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the tunnels have been constructed by the military wing of Hamas under the Israel-Gaza border for the purpose of "terrorist attacks" on Israel.[15]The Israeli government refers to cross-border tunnels as "attack tunnels" or "terror tunnels."[15][6] The cross-border tunnels were used in the capture of Gilad Shalit in 2006, and multiple times during the 2014 conflict; in practice only Israeli military targets have successfully been attacked through them.[10][16] However, Israel reportedly stopped an attempt to raid a kibbutz during the war, and uncovered evidence that the tunnels were being prepared for massive attacks against Israeli civilians.[17][18]

Well, I am sure that the Hasbara folks haven't edited that Wiki article. Why do you even post Wiki nonsense when you know that Hasbara edits the articles on a daily basis?

ANYONE can edit Wikipedia. Also, you've used Wikipedia before. Instead of criticizing the source allllll the time, why don't you try and refute the post..

Toast, please show where I have used Wiki to back any of my claims.

,
i could have sworn I have seen you use Wikipedia recently because I remember responding how you always criticize the source but are using it now to back up a claim.
If you didn't use it, nvmdn, my bad

Well, you are swearing for no reason. I never use Wiki to make a point on a partisan issue.

 

[montelatici]

Well, I don't think that there is anything wrong for blockaded and occupied people to try to gather weapons, do you. The Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto did the same. Nothing wrong with it, in my opinion.

Except that Hamas keeps firing those rockets at innocent civilians in Israel.

If they would quit doing that, I would just bet the airstrikes to take those rockets out would stop.

The Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto, though hopelessly outgunned did the same thing. Were they wrong?

 

[toastman]

Gee, talk about a bald-faced lie...

Palestinian tunnel warfare in the Gaza Strip - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

In the Gaza Strip, the governing authorityHamas developed a sophisticated network of military tunnels. The internal tunnels, running some dozens of kilometres within the Gaza Strip,[1] have several functions. Hamas uses the tunnels to hide its arsenal of rocketry underground, to facilitate communication, to permit munition stocks to be hidden and to conceal militants, making detection from the air difficult.[2] By means of these tunnels, rockets could be launched by remote control.[1] One IDF expert said the low-tech network was effective in enabling Hamas "to move, conceal, surprise and disappear."[1]Additional, cross-border tunnels penetrated into Israel for the purpose of making cross-border raids with goals that include mass-casualty attacks and hostage-taking.[3][4][5][6][7]

The tunnel system branches beneath many Gazan towns and cities, such as Khan Yunis and Jabalia and the Shati refugee camp.[8] Destroying the tunnels was a primary objective of Israeli forces in the2014 Israel–Gaza conflict.[9] The number of tunnels going into Israel has been reported between 9[10] and 31.[11]

According to Eado Hecht, an Israeli defence analyst specialising in underground warfare, "Three different kinds of tunnels existed beneath Gaza, smuggling tunnels between Gaza and Egypt; defensive tunnels inside Gaza, used for command centres and weapons storage; and –connected to the defensive tunnels –offensive tunnels used for cross-border attacks on Israel", including the capture of Israeli soldiers.[12][13] Ihab al-Ghussein, spokesman for the Hamas-run interior ministry, describes the tunnels as an exercise of Gaza's "right to protect itself."[14] According to the Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the tunnels have been constructed by the military wing of Hamas under the Israel-Gaza border for the purpose of "terrorist attacks" on Israel.[15]The Israeli government refers to cross-border tunnels as "attack tunnels" or "terror tunnels."[15][6] The cross-border tunnels were used in the capture of Gilad Shalit in 2006, and multiple times during the 2014 conflict; in practice only Israeli military targets have successfully been attacked through them.[10][16] However, Israel reportedly stopped an attempt to raid a kibbutz during the war, and uncovered evidence that the tunnels were being prepared for massive attacks against Israeli civilians.[17][18]

Well, I am sure that the Hasbara folks haven't edited that Wiki article. Why do you even post Wiki nonsense when you know that Hasbara edits the articles on a daily basis?

ANYONE can edit Wikipedia. Also, you've used Wikipedia before. Instead of criticizing the source allllll the time, why don't you try and refute the post..

Toast, please show where I have used Wiki to back any of my claims.

,
i could have sworn I have seen you use Wikipedia recently because I remember responding how you always criticize the source but are using it now to back up a claim.
If you didn't use it, nvmdn, my bad

Well, you are swearing for no reason. I never use Wiki to make a point on a partisan issue.

Doesn't matter if you did. Wiki is a credible source and all articles use references that are shown at the bottom.

 

[toastman]

Well, I don't think that there is anything wrong for blockaded and occupied people to try to gather weapons, do you. The Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto did the same. Nothing wrong with it, in my opinion.

Except that Hamas keeps firing those rockets at innocent civilians in Israel.

If they would quit doing that, I would just bet the airstrikes to take those rockets out would stop.

The Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto, though hopelessly outgunned did the same thing. Were they wrong?

What a pathetic comparison

 

[montelatici]

Well, I don't think that there is anything wrong for blockaded and occupied people to try to gather weapons, do you. The Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto did the same. Nothing wrong with it, in my opinion.

Except that Hamas keeps firing those rockets at innocent civilians in Israel.

If they would quit doing that, I would just bet the airstrikes to take those rockets out would stop.

The Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto, though hopelessly outgunned did the same thing. Were they wrong?

What a pathetic comparison

A perfectly accurate comparison. What's the difference?

 

[toastman]

Well, I don't think that there is anything wrong for blockaded and occupied people to try to gather weapons, do you. The Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto did the same. Nothing wrong with it, in my opinion.

Except that Hamas keeps firing those rockets at innocent civilians in Israel.

If they would quit doing that, I would just bet the airstrikes to take those rockets out would stop.

The Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto, though hopelessly outgunned did the same thing. Were they wrong?

What a pathetic comparison

A perfectly accurate comparison. What's the difference?

You're a sick sick person if you are comparing Jews defending themselves in the Holocaust to what Palestinians are doing.

I don't recall Jews launching rockets into Germany.... I don't recall Jews blowing themselves up in German cafes.
They were defending themselves from genocide. NOTHING at all like the situation of the Palestinians.

 

[aris2chat]

The rockets are in response to the occupation. End the occupation and you end the rocket attacks.

As for the tunnels, they're mostly used to bring in goods and services to Gaza, because of the illegal and immoral blockade.

Gee, talk about a bald-faced lie...

Palestinian tunnel warfare in the Gaza Strip - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

In the Gaza Strip, the governing authorityHamas developed a sophisticated network of military tunnels. The internal tunnels, running some dozens of kilometres within the Gaza Strip,[1] have several functions. Hamas uses the tunnels to hide its arsenal of rocketry underground, to facilitate communication, to permit munition stocks to be hidden and to conceal militants, making detection from the air difficult.[2] By means of these tunnels, rockets could be launched by remote control.[1] One IDF expert said the low-tech network was effective in enabling Hamas "to move, conceal, surprise and disappear."[1]Additional, cross-border tunnels penetrated into Israel for the purpose of making cross-border raids with goals that include mass-casualty attacks and hostage-taking.[3][4][5][6][7]

The tunnel system branches beneath many Gazan towns and cities, such as Khan Yunis and Jabalia and the Shati refugee camp.[8] Destroying the tunnels was a primary objective of Israeli forces in the2014 Israel–Gaza conflict.[9] The number of tunnels going into Israel has been reported between 9[10] and 31.[11]

According to Eado Hecht, an Israeli defence analyst specialising in underground warfare, "Three different kinds of tunnels existed beneath Gaza, smuggling tunnels between Gaza and Egypt; defensive tunnels inside Gaza, used for command centres and weapons storage; and –connected to the defensive tunnels –offensive tunnels used for cross-border attacks on Israel", including the capture of Israeli soldiers.[12][13] Ihab al-Ghussein, spokesman for the Hamas-run interior ministry, describes the tunnels as an exercise of Gaza's "right to protect itself."[14] According to the Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the tunnels have been constructed by the military wing of Hamas under the Israel-Gaza border for the purpose of "terrorist attacks" on Israel.[15]The Israeli government refers to cross-border tunnels as "attack tunnels" or "terror tunnels."[15][6] The cross-border tunnels were used in the capture of Gilad Shalit in 2006, and multiple times during the 2014 conflict; in practice only Israeli military targets have successfully been attacked through them.[10][16] However, Israel reportedly stopped an attempt to raid a kibbutz during the war, and uncovered evidence that the tunnels were being prepared for massive attacks against Israeli civilians.[17][18]

Well, I am sure that the Hasbara folks haven't edited that Wiki article. Why do you even post Wiki nonsense when you know that Hasbara edits the articles on a daily basis?

ANYONE can edit Wikipedia. Also, you've used Wikipedia before. Instead of criticizing the source allllll the time, why don't you try and refute the post..

Toast, please show where I have used Wiki to back any of my claims.

,
i could have sworn I have seen you use Wikipedia recently because I remember responding how you always criticize the source but are using it now to back up a claim.
If you didn't use it, nvmdn, my bad

We all do sometimes to be lazy. You have to know what is factual when you do.
Most it is for those who know nothing want don't want to read books on the subject. It can be a starting point for research and has the supporting documents and sites to help. It is not an end all to knowledge, no encyclopedia should be. It is only a brief overview of a topic. You have to be careful of what has been edited and what supporting sources there are. Be careful of those in need or source and those recently edited but pending verification. Also if you do use wiki, you might want to be aware of who the members are that are doing the editing and what other topics they are doing also. Often there is a pattern.

We can be skeptical at time of wiki. Manly it should not be the only source a person relies on. The same way other encyclopedias can be wrong, so can wiki.

 

[Obiwan]

Montelatici

Sounds like you have no problem admitting Hamas is attacking Israel. That means Israel has legitimate security concerns and is justified in fighting back, since Hamas is at war with them.

 

[montelatici]

Well, I am sure that the Hasbara folks haven't edited that Wiki article. Why do you even post Wiki nonsense when you know that Hasbara edits the articles on a daily basis?

ANYONE can edit Wikipedia. Also, you've used Wikipedia before. Instead of criticizing the source allllll the time, why don't you try and refute the post..

Toast, please show where I have used Wiki to back any of my claims.

,
i could have sworn I have seen you use Wikipedia recently because I remember responding how you always criticize the source but are using it now to back up a claim.
If you didn't use it, nvmdn, my bad

Well, you are swearing for no reason. I never use Wiki to make a point on a partisan issue.

Doesn't matter if you did. Wiki is a credible source and all articles use references that are shown at the bottom.

I am a Wiki editor. I can change anything in a wiki article and it will stay until someone else re edits my edit. I can point you to one of my articles on Wiki if you like. They are technical engineering articles but I can prove my point. Here is one of my entries:

Runway visual range - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[toastman]

Gee, talk about a bald-faced lie...

Palestinian tunnel warfare in the Gaza Strip - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

In the Gaza Strip, the governing authorityHamas developed a sophisticated network of military tunnels. The internal tunnels, running some dozens of kilometres within the Gaza Strip,[1] have several functions. Hamas uses the tunnels to hide its arsenal of rocketry underground, to facilitate communication, to permit munition stocks to be hidden and to conceal militants, making detection from the air difficult.[2] By means of these tunnels, rockets could be launched by remote control.[1] One IDF expert said the low-tech network was effective in enabling Hamas "to move, conceal, surprise and disappear."[1]Additional, cross-border tunnels penetrated into Israel for the purpose of making cross-border raids with goals that include mass-casualty attacks and hostage-taking.[3][4][5][6][7]

The tunnel system branches beneath many Gazan towns and cities, such as Khan Yunis and Jabalia and the Shati refugee camp.[8] Destroying the tunnels was a primary objective of Israeli forces in the2014 Israel–Gaza conflict.[9] The number of tunnels going into Israel has been reported between 9[10] and 31.[11]

According to Eado Hecht, an Israeli defence analyst specialising in underground warfare, "Three different kinds of tunnels existed beneath Gaza, smuggling tunnels between Gaza and Egypt; defensive tunnels inside Gaza, used for command centres and weapons storage; and –connected to the defensive tunnels –offensive tunnels used for cross-border attacks on Israel", including the capture of Israeli soldiers.[12][13] Ihab al-Ghussein, spokesman for the Hamas-run interior ministry, describes the tunnels as an exercise of Gaza's "right to protect itself."[14] According to the Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the tunnels have been constructed by the military wing of Hamas under the Israel-Gaza border for the purpose of "terrorist attacks" on Israel.[15]The Israeli government refers to cross-border tunnels as "attack tunnels" or "terror tunnels."[15][6] The cross-border tunnels were used in the capture of Gilad Shalit in 2006, and multiple times during the 2014 conflict; in practice only Israeli military targets have successfully been attacked through them.[10][16] However, Israel reportedly stopped an attempt to raid a kibbutz during the war, and uncovered evidence that the tunnels were being prepared for massive attacks against Israeli civilians.[17][18]

Well, I am sure that the Hasbara folks haven't edited that Wiki article. Why do you even post Wiki nonsense when you know that Hasbara edits the articles on a daily basis?

ANYONE can edit Wikipedia. Also, you've used Wikipedia before. Instead of criticizing the source allllll the time, why don't you try and refute the post..

Toast, please show where I have used Wiki to back any of my claims.

,
i could have sworn I have seen you use Wikipedia recently because I remember responding how you always criticize the source but are using it now to back up a claim.
If you didn't use it, nvmdn, my bad

We all do sometimes to be lazy. You have to know what is factual when you do.
Most it is for those who know nothing want don't want to read books on the subject. It can be a starting point for research and has the supporting documents and sites to help. It is not an end all to knowledge, no encyclopedia should be. It is only a brief overview of a topic. You have to be careful of what has been edited and what supporting sources there are. Be careful of those in need or source and those recently edited but pending verification. Also if you do use wiki, you might want to be aware of who the members are that are doing the editing and what other topics they are doing also. Often there is a pattern.

We can be skeptical at time of wiki. Manly it should not be the only source a person relies on. The same way other encyclopedias can be wrong, so can wiki.

If I use wiki to prove a claim, and someone claims it's not true because I used wiki as a source, I expect them to counter my claim with another source.
We are just posters on a message board.

 

[montelatici]

Montelatici

Sounds like you have no problem admitting Hamas is attacking Israel. That means Israel has legitimate security concerns and is justified in fighting back, since Hamas is at war with them.

Of course the colonized defend themselves. But, the colonizer is the attacker. It is the colonized that are fighting back.

 

[montelatici]

Well, I am sure that the Hasbara folks haven't edited that Wiki article. Why do you even post Wiki nonsense when you know that Hasbara edits the articles on a daily basis?

ANYONE can edit Wikipedia. Also, you've used Wikipedia before. Instead of criticizing the source allllll the time, why don't you try and refute the post..

Toast, please show where I have used Wiki to back any of my claims.

,
i could have sworn I have seen you use Wikipedia recently because I remember responding how you always criticize the source but are using it now to back up a claim.
If you didn't use it, nvmdn, my bad

We all do sometimes to be lazy. You have to know what is factual when you do.
Most it is for those who know nothing want don't want to read books on the subject. It can be a starting point for research and has the supporting documents and sites to help. It is not an end all to knowledge, no encyclopedia should be. It is only a brief overview of a topic. You have to be careful of what has been edited and what supporting sources there are. Be careful of those in need or source and those recently edited but pending verification. Also if you do use wiki, you might want to be aware of who the members are that are doing the editing and what other topics they are doing also. Often there is a pattern.

We can be skeptical at time of wiki. Manly it should not be the only source a person relies on. The same way other encyclopedias can be wrong, so can wiki.

If I use wiki to prove a claim, and someone claims it's not true because I used wiki as a source, I expect them to counter my claim with another source.
We are just posters on a message board.

Wiki is great for facts on non-controversial issues. For something like the I/P issue it is useless.

 

[Obiwan]

Montelatici

Sounds like you have no problem admitting Hamas is attacking Israel. That means Israel has legitimate security concerns and is justified in fighting back, since Hamas is at war with them.

Of course the colonized defend themselves. But, the colonizer is the attacker. It is the colonized that are fighting back.

Israel turned the Gaza Strip over to the Palestinians, and no Israeli in their right mind would attempt to live there. So the colony part doesn't wash.

Hamas has sworn to destroy Israel, and Israel is defending themselves against attacks by Hamas.

Why do you keep trying to defend the aggressor (Hamas), when all they have to do is stop their attacks to end the problem?

As a matter of fact, Israel has already said they will discuss Palestinian statehood if the attacks stop and Hamas will quit calling for the destruction of Israel.

 

[Obiwan]

Montelatici

Face the facts. Jordan and Egypt won't even take the Palestinians because of Hamas, and Egypt destroys all of their tunnels they can find.

Doesn't that tell you something about who the bad actors are?

 

[aris2chat]

Montelatici

Sounds like you have no problem admitting Hamas is attacking Israel. That means Israel has legitimate security concerns and is justified in fighting back, since Hamas is at war with them.

Of course the colonized defend themselves. But, the colonizer is the attacker. It is the colonized that are fighting back.

Israel turned the Gaza Strip over to the Palestinians, and no Israeli in their right mind would attempt to live there. So the colony part doesn't wash.

Hamas has sworn to destroy Israel, and Israel is defending themselves against attacks by Hamas.

Why do you keep trying to defend the aggressor (Hamas), when all they have to do is stop their attacks to end the problem?

As a matter of fact, Israel has already said they will discuss Palestinian statehood if the attacks stop and Hamas will quit calling for the destruction of Israel.

Hamas is calling for the kidnapping of Israelis.
Israel just had another attack by car
Even the PA has arrest hamas members preparing for an attack.

90% of gazan would leave if they could because of hamas

 

[Hossfly]

Montelatici

Sounds like you have no problem admitting Hamas is attacking Israel. That means Israel has legitimate security concerns and is justified in fighting back, since Hamas is at war with them.

Of course the colonized defend themselves. But, the colonizer is the attacker. It is the colonized that are fighting back.

Israel turned the Gaza Strip over to the Palestinians, and no Israeli in their right mind would attempt to live there. So the colony part doesn't wash.

Hamas has sworn to destroy Israel, and Israel is defending themselves against attacks by Hamas.

Why do you keep trying to defend the aggressor (Hamas), when all they have to do is stop their attacks to end the problem?

As a matter of fact, Israel has already said they will discuss Palestinian statehood if the attacks stop and Hamas will quit calling for the destruction of Israel.

Hamas is calling for the kidnapping of Israelis.
Israel just had another attack by car
Even the PA has arrest hamas members preparing for an attack.

90% of gazan would leave if they could because of hamas

Here's the story about Hamas urging Palestinians to abduct Israelis.


GAZA CITY, Palestinian Territories - A senior Hamas official in the Gaza Strip called on Thursday for the abduction of Israelis, who would be swapped for Palestinians held by the Jewish state.

"We tell the Zionist enemy: you are all a target for us and the resistance, we will fight you until we finally get rid of you and take as many captives as possible to free our heroes," said Khalil al-Haya, whose Islamist movement de facto rules the Palestinian enclave.

"Our men, our women, our children all envision kidnapping your soldiers and settlers, wherever they are," he said on the eve of Prisoners Day which Palestinians mark April 17.

"And it is our right because we have no other way to free our heroes, and it is the Zionist enemy responsible for this state of affairs," Haya told hundreds of Palestinians.


More from: Hamas official calls to abduct Israelis swap for Palestinians News GMA News Online

 

[aris2chat]

Montelatici

Sounds like you have no problem admitting Hamas is attacking Israel. That means Israel has legitimate security concerns and is justified in fighting back, since Hamas is at war with them.

Of course the colonized defend themselves. But, the colonizer is the attacker. It is the colonized that are fighting back.

Israel turned the Gaza Strip over to the Palestinians, and no Israeli in their right mind would attempt to live there. So the colony part doesn't wash.

Hamas has sworn to destroy Israel, and Israel is defending themselves against attacks by Hamas.

Why do you keep trying to defend the aggressor (Hamas), when all they have to do is stop their attacks to end the problem?

As a matter of fact, Israel has already said they will discuss Palestinian statehood if the attacks stop and Hamas will quit calling for the destruction of Israel.

Hamas is calling for the kidnapping of Israelis.
Israel just had another attack by car
Even the PA has arrest hamas members preparing for an attack.

90% of gazan would leave if they could because of hamas

Here's the story about Hamas urging Palestinians to abduct Israelis.


GAZA CITY, Palestinian Territories - A senior Hamas official in the Gaza Strip called on Thursday for the abduction of Israelis, who would be swapped for Palestinians held by the Jewish state.

"We tell the Zionist enemy: you are all a target for us and the resistance, we will fight you until we finally get rid of you and take as many captives as possible to free our heroes," said Khalil al-Haya, whose Islamist movement de facto rules the Palestinian enclave.

"Our men, our women, our children all envision kidnapping your soldiers and settlers, wherever they are," he said on the eve of Prisoners Day which Palestinians mark April 17.

"And it is our right because we have no other way to free our heroes, and it is the Zionist enemy responsible for this state of affairs," Haya told hundreds of Palestinians.


More from: Hamas official calls to abduct Israelis swap for Palestinians News GMA News Online

...........and hamas plays the victim