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That's what candidates do during primaries, idiot.
Trump is throwing more shit at other Republicans than he is at Hillary
Let Trump bring down Jeb Bush and have another Republican from the clown car run
Why Obama and Hillary MUST Stop Trump At All Costs
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That's what candidates do during primaries, idiot.
Trump is throwing more shit at other Republicans than he is at Hillary
Let Trump bring down Jeb Bush and have another Republican from the clown car run
That is why Hillary is sitting back laughing as the Republicans beat each other up
Where is your email and Benghazi outrage when you have Trump?
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The one thing Hillary has going for her, beyond the Donald, is that the closer we get to the actual primaries, the more media will actually have to focus on issues. And, now that she's FINALLY turned over her server, and probably all we'll get is "yeah, she sent some emails with classified stuff," so she may survive.That's what candidates do during primaries, idiot.
Trump is throwing more shit at other Republicans than he is at Hillary
Let Trump bring down Jeb Bush and have another Republican from the clown car run
That is why Hillary is sitting back laughing as the Republicans beat each other up
Where is your email and Benghazi outrage when you have Trump?
And I'm guessing Biden will not run. Even with Julian Castro on the ticket, I don't think he can win. Unless, Trump's the nominee, of course.
This blog correctly points out how money is destroying our political system, but the article devolves into partisan drivel, placing the blame on Obama/Clinton - and largely omitting the major role Republicans have played in creating the Lobbying Industrial Complex, which reached its apex under Tom DeLay and K Street, and continues to give centralized financial power (Koch brothers) almost total power to select candidates. This is to say nothing of Citizens United, which was opposed by Obama because it allows big money to flow into the pockets of our politicians under cover of darkness. And let's not talk about Reagan whose goal was to put business in government. This is why corporate lobbying became steroidal under Reagan.
Every Republican promises to return Washington to the people - but nobody should buy into this very old and tired lie. In fact, whenever a Democrat tries to curb the power of business over government or legislation, he is called a socialist.
The OP can't have it both ways. Either Obama/Clinton are socialists who aim to destroy business or they are crony capitalists who aim to increase the power of business over the political machinery.
For my part, it's very clear that Bill Clinton was part of the problem. With NAFTA, he broke ties with Labor and got in bed with Wall Street. He did this in order to tap into the deeper pockets of Republican funding sources. Obama is also a problem because despite pushing much harder than the Right for regulations over business and over campaign financing, he still accepted a ton of money.
Yes, Republicans are the party of business, and they work more directly for the corporations who fund them - but the system is broken and the Left has to keep trying to overturn Citizens United, and shine a light on all the dark money that Republicans don't want to expose.
Trump was right about a few things. George W Bush was an incompetent president who mismanaged the Iraq War, and Jeb Bush is a low energy moron.
I would love to believe that Trump will stay immune to big money, but I have less faith in presidential candidates.
(Why do Republican voters always fall so deeply for their political leaders? Why don't they question what they are being sold?)
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Nobody believes that, hack.
Not this again.
Get this through your skull --- the MSM acts on behalf of the MSM. Period.
No other approach would make money ...... which is what capitalism is all about.
Umm.... the profit-based megacorporations that control virtually all media, and thus the flow of information, not only believe it -- they live on it. Literally. That's exactly WHY they bloat themselves into an informationally self-sufficient entity that can literally dictate what the news is and what it isn't. And the criterion for that is "what will sell".
The fact remains -- nobody but nobody makes a profit from pushing an ideology. They make profit from pushing buttons.
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Did you question anything Obama was selling you? Then STFU, you have no case to make.
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Once again, nobody believes that shit, hack.Nobody believes that, hack.
Get this through your skull --- the MSM acts on behalf of the MSM. Period.
No other approach would make money ...... which is what capitalism is all about.
Umm.... the profit-based megacorporations that control virtually all media, and thus the flow of information, not only believe it -- they live on it. Literally. That's exactly WHY they bloat themselves into an informationally self-sufficient entity that can literally dictate what the news is and what it isn't. And the criterion for that is "what will sell".
The fact remains -- nobody but nobody makes a profit from pushing an ideology. They make profit from pushing buttons.
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Obama/Clinton's dream opponent would be Donald Trump.
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Then wouldn't the strategy be to encourage his nomination (like you did with McCain) and wait until AFTER the primary to start trashing him? You're going about it backwards. Either you're stupid or you think WE are.
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Think? No....GOP self-defeating is a way of life it appears. Trump would be a disaster as President so Defeating him is job 1. Hillary would score an easy victory over nearly every other GOP candidates
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Then why are you libs struggling so hard to knock him out of the running? Second time I've asked you now.
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The RNC won't allow Trump to be their candidate. You will vote for who they tell you to vote for, and pretend Bush is who you really want.
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Shut up, I'm not talking to you, asshole.
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Says the guy who wears rainbow thongs and goes to gay marriage rallies.
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Is Trump so porcelain fragile that *any* criticism is viewed as an all out attack to 'knock him out of the running'?
If Trump can't handle criticism, if he can't handle opposition, if he can't even be questioned without falling to pieces, then he has no business running for president. As its political hardball.
If Trump can't take it.....you'd probably better tell us now.
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Where did I ever say he couldn't take it? I'd say he's doing a damn good job of "taking it". All of your attacks so far have backfired.
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Where did I ever say he couldn't take it? I'd say he's doing a damn good job of "taking it". All of your attacks so far have backfired.
Where did Hillary or Obama say that they must stop Trump at all costs?
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