Why Are Republicans So Bad At The Economy?

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

How

can I explain something to someone who lives in leftist lala land?

Thank you for your admission of defeat.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I'm sorry, Man With A Plan, but raising taxes on the people who risk capital to create businesses WILL not harm our economy!

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

I'm sorry, Man With A Plan, but raising taxes on the people who risk capital to create businesses WILL not harm our economy!

Leftards just refuse to admit we have a spending problem not a revenue problem. If they did their entire vote buying scheme would come crashing down.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Leftards just refuse to admit we have a spending problem not a revenue problem. If they did their entire vote buying scheme would come crashing down.

Trumptardians just refuse to admit that raising taxes on the rich has never hurt the economy,

 

[Lesh]

I'm sorry, Winco but raising taxes on the people who risk capital to create businesses WILL harm our economy! I only risk capital if I see a high probability of making a profit. If you take away part of my potential profit by raising the taxes on that profit it's one more reason for me not to risk that capital...one more reason for me to look at other places that don't tax at such a high rate.
We don't have a revenue problem in the US. We are taking in more revenue than we ever have. What we have is a spending problem. What DOGE has shown quite clearly is that Government wastes Billions of dollars on things that are just plain ridiculous.

Bullshit. If you’re not “risking that capital” what are you doing with that capital?

Putting it under your bed?

 

[Lesh]

Leftards just refuse to admit we have a spending problem not a revenue problem. If they did their entire vote buying scheme would come crashing down.

Oh please. Now you sound like Cheney circa 2002

 

[mudwhistle]

If spending stays level and you cut taxes… what happens to debt?

Yeah it goes up

It’s not complicated

Spending never stays level.
Congress is filled with greedy assholes.
DODGE discovered that was going on in spades.
Much of the money that's being spent hasn't been accounted for, by design.
The only thing they know is where it's coming from, and not always who got it.
But it was never added to the budget.
So what that means is trillions is being spent that congress never accounted for.
This is why raising taxes will never pay down the debt.
Every time they raise the debt ceiling, billions of dollars just disappear.
And anyone who talks about is called a Nazi.

 

[Lesh]

Spending never stays level.
Congress is filled with greedy assholes.
DODGE discovered that was going on in spades.
Much of the money that's being spent hasn't been accounted for, by design.
The only thing they know is where it's coming from, and not always who got it.
But it was never added to the budget.
So what that means is trillions is being spent that congress never accounted for.
This is why raising taxes will never pay down the debt.
Every time they raise the debt ceiling, billions of dollars just disappear.
And anyone who talks about is called a Nazi.

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Not the point.

IF spending stays the same and taxes are cut… debt grows

IF spending increases and you cut taxes… debt grows even faster

If you cut spending and then cut taxes… you cut off your nose to spite your face.

And of course spending never gets cut in any meaningful way. Look at DOGES ineffectual attempts.

Taxes DO get cut in very meaningful ways and ALWAYS lead to much greater debt

 

[mudwhistle]

Not the point.

IF spending stays the same and taxes are cut… debt grows

IF spending increases and you cut taxes… debt grows even faster

If you it spending and then cut taxes… you cut off your nose to spite your face.

And of course spending never gets cut on any meaningful way. Looks at DOGES ineffectual attempts.

Taxes DO get cut in very meaningful ways and ALWAYS lead to much greater debt

Once again.....spending will only go up.
They're already spending more than they take in revenue-wise.
Giving them more will only allow them to spend more.

Congress needs to stop deficit spending first before we think about raising taxes.

Every day they're committing acts of reckless spending, as well corrupt spending.
Their trips to El Salvador were a prime example.

Another thing that needs to be done immediately is interest rates need to go down.
But Democrats don't want that, simply because it will reduce deficit spending and cause the markets to skyrocket.

 

[Lesh]

Once again.....spending will only go up.
They're already spending more than they take in revenue-wise.
Giving them more will only allow them to spend more.

Congress needs to stop deficit spending first before we think about raising taxes.

Every day they're committing acts of reckless spending, as well corrupt spending.
Their trips to El Salvador were a prime example.

Another thing that needs to be done immediately is interest rates need to go down.
But Democrats don't want that, simply because it will reduce deficit spending and cause the markets to skyrocket.

And you need to stop dreaming and pretending your fantasies might be real

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Bullshit. If you’re not “risking that capital” what are you doing with that capital?

Putting it under your bed?

It’s none of your businesses.

 

[mudwhistle]

And you need to stop dreaming and pretending your fantasies might be real

The only fantasies I'm focusing on is yours.

I'm a realist.

I used to be in the OPSEC community in the Army.

I held a TS-SCI clearance for several years till I gave it up when I went Special Ops.

I could have held positions in the White House communications SCIF.

I was certified and read-on everywhere I went.

Wherever I went I had to go to the SCIF at headquarters and be read-on the post register.

I'm not into making shit up.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Not the point.

IF spending stays the same and taxes are cut… debt grows

IF spending increases and you cut taxes… debt grows even faster

If you cut spending and then cut taxes… you cut off your nose to spite your face.

And of course spending never gets cut in any meaningful way. Look at DOGES ineffectual attempts.

Taxes DO get cut in very meaningful ways and ALWAYS lead to much greater debt

IF spending stays the same and taxes are cut… debt grows

If rates are cut 10% across the board, do revenues go down 10%?

 

[Man With A Plan]

Bullshit. If you’re not “risking that capital” what are you doing with that capital?

Putting it under your bed?

If I don't see a profit worthy of risking capital in one locale then I'm investing it elsewhere or not risking it at all. Why would any rational person risk money on an investment where the government is going to take most of their profit? Extremely wealthy people CHOOSE what locale to invest in and tax rates are a big part of that decision!
What I always find amusing about you on the left, Lesh is that you all seem to think that wealthy people are stupid and are just going to roll over and hand you their money! They're not! They'll stick their capital in tax free bonds and wait until a business friendly group gets elected if it comes to that. You think I'm wrong? Do a little research and see what happened in New Jersey when they instituted a "Millionaires Tax"!

 

[Lesh]

If I don't see a profit worthy of risking capital in one locale then I'm investing it elsewhere or not risking it at all. Why would any rational person risk money on an investment where the government is going to take most of their profit? Extremely wealthy people CHOOSE what locale to invest in and tax rates are a big part of that decision!
What I always find amusing about you on the left, Lesh is that you all seem to think that wealthy people are stupid and are just going to roll over and hand you their money! They're not! They'll stick their capital in tax free bonds and wait until a business friendly group gets elected if it comes to that. You think I'm wrong? Do a little research and see what happened in New Jersey when they instituted a "Millionaires Tax"!

You’re going to just sit on capital because it might cost you a couple per cent?

Sure buddy. You’re a financial genius

 

[Lesh]

IF spending stays the same and taxes are cut… debt grows

If rates are cut 10% across the board, do revenues go down 10%?

Did anyone say that any of this is one for one?

 

[Lesh]

The only fantasies I'm focusing on is yours.

I'm a realist.

I used to be in the OPSEC community in the Army.

I held a TS-SCI clearance for several years till I gave it up when I went Special Ops.

I could have held positions in the White House communications SCIF.

I was certified and read-on everywhere I went.

Wherever I went I had to go to the SCIF at headquarters and be read-on the post register.

I'm not into making shit up.

And for all that you post like a certifiable lunatic

Hmmm

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Did anyone say that any of this is one for one?

It's not one for one?
What is it?

 

[Man With A Plan]

You’re going to just sit on capital because it might cost you a couple per cent?

Sure buddy. You’re a financial genius

Any investment carries a degree of risk. If you're an investor you balance risk with potential reward. This isn't rocket science, Lesh! If you decrease the amount of reward by taxing profits then you're pushing me towards putting that money elsewhere. I'm not going to risk my capital for a small profit. I'll put it into tax free bonds. Not as big a return as I'd like...but it's safe. Once you're voted out of office for bringing the economy to a crawl and decreasing revenues...I'll invest under the new regime that values capital investment and doesn't punish it.

 

[Lesh]

Any investment carries a degree of risk. If you're an investor you balance risk with potential reward. This isn't rocket science, Lesh! If you decrease the amount of reward by taxing profits then you're pushing me towards putting that money elsewhere. I'm not going to risk my capital for a small profit. I'll put it into tax free bonds. Not as big a return as I'd like...but it's safe. Once you're voted out of office for bringing the economy to a crawl and decreasing revenues...I'll invest under the new regime that values capital investment and doesn't punish it.

So you’d settle for single digit profits because your double digit profits were a couple per cent less?

Brilliant strategy there Mr. Buffett