Why isn't it considered traitorous when America's politicians push policy to benefit Mexico's people at the compromise and expense of Americans?

[Ben Thomson]

Sanctuary cities do not in any way shape or form benefit Americans.....DACA does not in any way shape of form benefit Americans.
These are just two examples...and the truth is; both absolutely **** American blacks over the most.
Why can't conservatives gain any traction with this talking point? Why haven't they shown the American public the details and effects?
Is the American public simply too stupid to understand?

That's becasue people have come to realize that undocumented immigrants are just a whipping boy for conservatism. Fear needs a boogie man and right wingers have chosen to make undocumented immigrants the fall guy for everything that doesn't work. Welfare system out of wack..that's because illegals are coming over here and getting on welfare..economy in a little slump..that's because illegals are coming over here and taking all our jobs. Fear spreading tin foil hats can't even get on the same page.

 

[danielpalos]

Sanctuary cities do not in any way shape or form benefit Americans.....DACA does not in any way shape of form benefit Americans.
These are just two examples...and the truth is; both absolutely **** American blacks over the most.
Why can't conservatives gain any traction with this talking point? Why haven't they shown the American public the details and effects?
Is the American public simply too stupid to understand?

It should make more sense to help improve their economy to help keep their people there.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Sanctuary cities do not in any way shape or form benefit Americans.....DACA does not in any way shape of form benefit Americans.
These are just two examples...and the truth is; both absolutely **** American blacks over the most.
Why can't conservatives gain any traction with this talking point? Why haven't they shown the American public the details and effects?
Is the American public simply too stupid to understand?

That's becasue people have come to realize that undocumented immigrants are just a whipping boy for conservatism. Fear needs a boogie man and right wingers have chosen to make undocumented immigrants the fall guy for everything that doesn't work. Welfare system out of wack..that's because illegals are coming over here and getting on welfare..economy in a little slump..that's because illegals are coming over here and taking all our jobs. Fear spreading tin foil hats can't even get on the same page.

So illegal aliens are just another "IDEA"...kinda like Antifa, they don't really exist or have an ill affect on Americans...right?
hahaha...do you loons really expect to be taken seriously outside of that silly world of LibTardia?

 

[harmonica]

they PAY illegals for being------------------------------------ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

San Francisco to pay $190,000 for sanctuary law violation, lawyer says

A man from El Salvador in the U.S. illegally who sued San Francisco after police turned him over to immigration authorities in violation of the city's sanctuary law is set to be awarded $190,000, his attorney said Thursday.

www.latimes.com

 

[harmonica]

Sanctuary cities do not in any way shape or form benefit Americans.....DACA does not in any way shape of form benefit Americans.
These are just two examples...and the truth is; both absolutely **** American blacks over the most.
Why can't conservatives gain any traction with this talking point? Why haven't they shown the American public the details and effects?
Is the American public simply too stupid to understand?

The thread premise is a lie.

No one advocates for benefiting citizens of Mexico to the disadvantage of American citizens.

‘There is much confusion about the term “sanctuary city.” The term is often used derisively by immigration opponents to blast what are best described as community policing policies. Critics claim that these cities and states provide “sanctuary” to undocumented immigrants, but research shows that the opposite is true. In fact, community policing policies are about providing public safety services, not sanctuary, to both immigrant residents and the entire community. Crime experts, including hundreds of local police officers, have found that cities with community policing policies continue to work closely with DHS and have built bridges to immigrant communities that have improved their ability to fight crime and protect the entire community.’

Debunking the Myth of "Sanctuary Cities" - American Immigration Council

There is much confusion about the term “sanctuary city.” The term is often used derisively by immigration opponents to blast what are best described as community policing policies. Critics claim that these cities and states provide “sanctuary” to undocumented immigrants, but research shows that...

www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

The DACA program provides myriad benefits to individuals, communities, and America as a whole. Yet, President Trump has attempted to end the DACA program in 2017. Currently, the program’s continuation, and thus the future of its beneficiaries, lies with the U.S. judicial system. A string of court rulings and appeals makes it likely the Supreme Court will make the final decision regarding DACA’s future.

Economic Benefits of the DACA Program | Davis & Associates

The Economic Benefits of the DACA Program - Request A Free Consultation With Expert Dallas Immigration Attorneys Davis & Associates

gldlaw.com

total bullshit

San Francisco to pay $190,000 for sanctuary law violation, lawyer says

A man from El Salvador in the U.S. illegally who sued San Francisco after police turned him over to immigration authorities in violation of the city's sanctuary law is set to be awarded $190,000, his attorney said Thursday.

www.latimes.com

 

[harmonica]

Sanctuary cities do not in any way shape or form benefit Americans.....DACA does not in any way shape of form benefit Americans.
These are just two examples...and the truth is; both absolutely **** American blacks over the most.
Why can't conservatives gain any traction with this talking point? Why haven't they shown the American public the details and effects?
Is the American public simply too stupid to understand?

The thread premise is a lie.

No one advocates for benefiting citizens of Mexico to the disadvantage of American citizens.

‘There is much confusion about the term “sanctuary city.” The term is often used derisively by immigration opponents to blast what are best described as community policing policies. Critics claim that these cities and states provide “sanctuary” to undocumented immigrants, but research shows that the opposite is true. In fact, community policing policies are about providing public safety services, not sanctuary, to both immigrant residents and the entire community. Crime experts, including hundreds of local police officers, have found that cities with community policing policies continue to work closely with DHS and have built bridges to immigrant communities that have improved their ability to fight crime and protect the entire community.’

Debunking the Myth of "Sanctuary Cities" - American Immigration Council

There is much confusion about the term “sanctuary city.” The term is often used derisively by immigration opponents to blast what are best described as community policing policies. Critics claim that these cities and states provide “sanctuary” to undocumented immigrants, but research shows that...

www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

The DACA program provides myriad benefits to individuals, communities, and America as a whole. Yet, President Trump has attempted to end the DACA program in 2017. Currently, the program’s continuation, and thus the future of its beneficiaries, lies with the U.S. judicial system. A string of court rulings and appeals makes it likely the Supreme Court will make the final decision regarding DACA’s future.

Economic Benefits of the DACA Program | Davis & Associates

The Economic Benefits of the DACA Program - Request A Free Consultation With Expert Dallas Immigration Attorneys Davis & Associates

gldlaw.com

we've been over this before--how it hurts Americans
for example--overcrowded schools!!!!!!!!!!!!! DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!--fking over American kids

Easing Crowding in L.A. Schools

* Re "Finding School Sites Will Need Everyone's Creativity," Commentary, Sept. 17: Is LAUSD Board of Education President Genethia Hayes for real?

www.latimes.com

Parents want LA schools magnet application improved

The California Department of Education says Los Angeles Unified's magnet school enrollment ballooned in recent years.

www.scpr.org

Overcrowding, Classroom Size Outrage in LAUSD Schools May Force Parents to File Complaint Against District

Parents, teachers and students fed up with class sizes in the Los Angeles Unified School District said Monday that despite improvements, there are just too many students in each class.

www.nbclosangeles.com

in state tuition for illegals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! = IDIOCY

CA Gives Illegals In-State Tuition

Supreme Court agrees in unanimous decision.

www.thedailybeast.com

and I've linked CA is very high priced living and high poverty
etc

 

[justinacolmena]

they PAY illegals for being------------------------------------ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

San Francisco to pay $190,000 for sanctuary law violation, lawyer says

A man from El Salvador in the U.S. illegally who sued San Francisco after police turned him over to immigration authorities in violation of the city's sanctuary law is set to be awarded $190,000, his attorney said Thursday.

www.latimes.com

People can be so stupid. The illegals wouldn't be coming into this country at all if somebody weren't actively inviting them, soliciting and PAYING them to perform illegal labor.

 

[Crepitus]

Sanctuary cities do not in any way shape or form benefit Americans.....DACA does not in any way shape of form benefit Americans.

False premise.

Sanctuary cities are safer, cleaner, and more prosperous.

The DACA recipients are a vital part of our economy at this point.

/Thread.

 

[harmonica]

Sanctuary cities do not in any way shape or form benefit Americans.....DACA does not in any way shape of form benefit Americans.

False premise.

Sanctuary cities are safer, cleaner, and more prosperous.

The DACA recipients are a vital part of our economy at this point.

/Thread.

wrong --higher prices --higher poverty
....they are NOT vital----jesus christ your idea on that is one of the most ridiculous I have ever seen--they are a DRAIN on the economy

 

[Crepitus]

Sanctuary cities do not in any way shape or form benefit Americans.....DACA does not in any way shape of form benefit Americans.

False premise.

Sanctuary cities are safer, cleaner, and more prosperous.

The DACA recipients are a vital part of our economy at this point.

/Thread.

wrong --higher prices --higher poverty
....they are NOT vital----jesus christ your idea on that is one of the most ridiculous I have ever seen--they are a DRAIN on the economy
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Higher prices have nothing to do with immigrants, legal or not.

Daca recipients are not a drain on the economy. They are doctors and nurses, construction contractors and restaurant owners, just like the rest of us.

 

[harmonica]

Sanctuary cities do not in any way shape or form benefit Americans.....DACA does not in any way shape of form benefit Americans.

False premise.

Sanctuary cities are safer, cleaner, and more prosperous.

The DACA recipients are a vital part of our economy at this point.

/Thread.

wrong --higher prices --higher poverty
....they are NOT vital----jesus christ your idea on that is one of the most ridiculous I have ever seen--they are a DRAIN on the economy
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Higher prices have nothing to do with immigrants, legal or not.

Daca recipients are not a drain on the economy. They are doctors and nurses, construction contractors and restaurant owners, just like the rest of us.

hhahhahahhahahah---you must be ignorant of the basics of economics
supply and demand!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[harmonica]

Sanctuary cities do not in any way shape or form benefit Americans.....DACA does not in any way shape of form benefit Americans.

False premise.

Sanctuary cities are safer, cleaner, and more prosperous.

The DACA recipients are a vital part of our economy at this point.

/Thread.

wrong --higher prices --higher poverty
....they are NOT vital----jesus christ your idea on that is one of the most ridiculous I have ever seen--they are a DRAIN on the economy
View attachment 431596
View attachment 431595

Higher prices have nothing to do with immigrants, legal or not.

Daca recipients are not a drain on the economy. They are doctors and nurses, construction contractors and restaurant owners, just like the rest of us.

BOOOOM again!!!!!!!!!!! hahhahahahhahahahahha

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[Ben Thomson]

Sanctuary cities do not in any way shape or form benefit Americans.....DACA does not in any way shape of form benefit Americans.
These are just two examples...and the truth is; both absolutely **** American blacks over the most.
Why can't conservatives gain any traction with this talking point? Why haven't they shown the American public the details and effects?
Is the American public simply too stupid to understand?

That's becasue people have come to realize that undocumented immigrants are just a whipping boy for conservatism. Fear needs a boogie man and right wingers have chosen to make undocumented immigrants the fall guy for everything that doesn't work. Welfare system out of wack..that's because illegals are coming over here and getting on welfare..economy in a little slump..that's because illegals are coming over here and taking all our jobs. Fear spreading tin foil hats can't even get on the same page.

So illegal aliens are just another "IDEA"...kinda like Antifa, they don't really exist or have an ill affect on Americans...right?
hahaha...do you loons really expect to be taken seriously outside of that silly world of LibTardia?

Didn't say the didn't exist, I said they are used as scapegoats by the wingers..

 

[TheParser]

Sanctuary cities do not in any way shape or form benefit Americans.....DACA does not in any way shape of form benefit Americans.
These are just two examples...and the truth is; both absolutely **** American blacks over the most.
Why can't conservatives gain any traction with this talking point? Why haven't they shown the American public the details and effects?
Is the American public simply too stupid to understand?

No, the American people are NOT "too stupid to understand."

Some are too afraid to speak out. They do not want to be labeled "racist," lest they lose their jobs.

And some do not feel that the current "generous" immigration system will negatively impact them.

In fact, a lot of Americans are benefiting from undocumented immigration: Contractors hire
young men to build houses, housewives find dependable household help, teachers find jobs teaching immigrant children, cops are employed to deal with crime committed by some immigrants, etc.

Like everything else in life, it all depends on how a situation personally affects you.

 

[danielpalos]

they PAY illegals for being------------------------------------ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

San Francisco to pay $190,000 for sanctuary law violation, lawyer says

A man from El Salvador in the U.S. illegally who sued San Francisco after police turned him over to immigration authorities in violation of the city's sanctuary law is set to be awarded $190,000, his attorney said Thursday.

www.latimes.com

We have a Tenth Amendment and no express Immigration clause. We should have no illegal problem nor any illegal underclass with our express Naturalization clause.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Sanctuary cities do not in any way shape or form benefit Americans.....DACA does not in any way shape of form benefit Americans.
These are just two examples...and the truth is; both absolutely **** American blacks over the most.
Why can't conservatives gain any traction with this talking point? Why haven't they shown the American public the details and effects?
Is the American public simply too stupid to understand?

No, the American people are NOT "too stupid to understand."

Some are too afraid to speak out. They do not want to be labeled "racist," lest they lose their jobs.

And some do not feel that the current "generous" immigration system will negatively impact them.

In fact, a lot of Americans are benefiting from undocumented immigration: Contractors hire
young men to build houses, housewives find dependable household help, teachers find jobs teaching immigrant children, cops are employed to deal with crime committed by some immigrants, etc.

Like everything else in life, it all depends on how a situation personally affects you.

"Some are too afraid to speak out. They do not want to be labeled "racist," lest they lose their jobs."
"Racists" for hating illegal trespassers? Are we suppose to love and respect illegal trespassers?
Don't Mexican officers beat the asses of presumed Mexican trespassers?


"And some do not feel that the current "generous" immigration system will negatively impact them."
Wouldn't that make them too stupid to understand?
If it affects your community, city and state doesn't it affect you?

Home of the Los Angeles Police Department - LAPD Online

Consistent with our motto, “to protect and to serve”, The Los Angeles Police Department is committed to serving the community while protecting the rights of all persons.

www.lapdonline.org

COMMENTARY: Illegal immigrants have turned California into the American Nightmare

Clearly, immigration — in the wrong form — does not lead to prosperity. California has become unlivable.

www.reviewjournal.com

"In fact, a lot of Americans are benefiting from undocumented immigration:
"Contractors hire young men to build houses"
You mean to ruin blue collar trade wages and wages across the job spectrum?

"Housewives find dependable household help"
You mean lazy feminazis?
"Teachers find jobs teaching immigrant children"
You mean the anchor baby children of illegals teach new arrival illegals...that's an awesome cycle huh?

"Cops are employed to deal with crime committed by some immigrants, etc."
You sure that's a net positive for Americans?
You mean the anchor baby children of illegals deal with crime committed by new arrivals...that's an awesome cycle huh?

 

[harmonica]

they PAY illegals for being------------------------------------ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

San Francisco to pay $190,000 for sanctuary law violation, lawyer says

A man from El Salvador in the U.S. illegally who sued San Francisco after police turned him over to immigration authorities in violation of the city's sanctuary law is set to be awarded $190,000, his attorney said Thursday.

www.latimes.com

We have a Tenth Amendment and no express Immigration clause. We should have no illegal problem nor any illegal underclass with our express Naturalization clause.

there is an illegal problem

 

[harmonica]

Sanctuary cities do not in any way shape or form benefit Americans.....DACA does not in any way shape of form benefit Americans.
These are just two examples...and the truth is; both absolutely **** American blacks over the most.
Why can't conservatives gain any traction with this talking point? Why haven't they shown the American public the details and effects?
Is the American public simply too stupid to understand?

That's becasue people have come to realize that undocumented immigrants are just a whipping boy for conservatism. Fear needs a boogie man and right wingers have chosen to make undocumented immigrants the fall guy for everything that doesn't work. Welfare system out of wack..that's because illegals are coming over here and getting on welfare..economy in a little slump..that's because illegals are coming over here and taking all our jobs. Fear spreading tin foil hats can't even get on the same page.

So illegal aliens are just another "IDEA"...kinda like Antifa, they don't really exist or have an ill affect on Americans...right?
hahaha...do you loons really expect to be taken seriously outside of that silly world of LibTardia?

Didn't say the didn't exist, I said they are used as scapegoats by the wingers..

no--no one is scapegoating

 

[harmonica]

Sanctuary cities do not in any way shape or form benefit Americans.....DACA does not in any way shape of form benefit Americans.
These are just two examples...and the truth is; both absolutely **** American blacks over the most.
Why can't conservatives gain any traction with this talking point? Why haven't they shown the American public the details and effects?
Is the American public simply too stupid to understand?

That's becasue people have come to realize that undocumented immigrants are just a whipping boy for conservatism. Fear needs a boogie man and right wingers have chosen to make undocumented immigrants the fall guy for everything that doesn't work. Welfare system out of wack..that's because illegals are coming over here and getting on welfare..economy in a little slump..that's because illegals are coming over here and taking all our jobs. Fear spreading tin foil hats can't even get on the same page.

So illegal aliens are just another "IDEA"...kinda like Antifa, they don't really exist or have an ill affect on Americans...right?
hahaha...do you loons really expect to be taken seriously outside of that silly world of LibTardia?

Didn't say the didn't exist, I said they are used as scapegoats by the wingers..

..protecting America/etc has nothing to do with left or right wing

 

[BrokeLoser]

they PAY illegals for being------------------------------------ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

San Francisco to pay $190,000 for sanctuary law violation, lawyer says

A man from El Salvador in the U.S. illegally who sued San Francisco after police turned him over to immigration authorities in violation of the city's sanctuary law is set to be awarded $190,000, his attorney said Thursday.

www.latimes.com

We have a Tenth Amendment and no express Immigration clause. We should have no illegal problem nor any illegal underclass with our express Naturalization clause.

Oh Danny...again, let me teach you for free......We have a Declaration Of Independence which means we are not part of Mexico, we have a United States Constitution and the first words are "WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES".....notice it does not say "We The People Of The United States AND MEXICO".........this indicates that our rights do not extend to the people of Mexico...I'm sorry Gustavo....you're fucked.

Then there's this.
8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien