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Believing there's maybe "something", just not sure what "It" is.As I understand it, agnostics believe that there is a God but that he/she/it is unknowable. IOW, agnostics actually believe in a higher power whereas atheists do not.This is exactly why atheism is not a religion. It is non- belief in any of that. Atheism has no beliefs whatsoever concerning anything. It is the simple rejection of all known religious beliefs. You are thoroughly confused as to what atheism actually is.
An agnostic fits your definition better than it does mine. They're the ones with no belief, one way or the other.
Atheists flat-out BELIEVE there is nothing.
But, whatever.
They also feel compelled to gain converts.
Well no.
I just wish people would keep this sort of stuff..private. I don't want to hear about your sex life either.
They don't have to keep that sort of stuff private. Just as they don't have to keep their sexuality private, or their color private.
They have a right to flaunt it.
No, trust me, you've proven my point.
Atheists believe they are supernaturally endowed with greater powers of reasoning than any religious person, anywhere. They're just that much smarter and more clever, and better.
That is, in and of itself, a loony belief system. And it's what defines atheists.
That and their bizarre desire to convert the world to their worldview. I guess they want everybody to get this special smartness that atheism has bestowed upon THEM.
Atheists are basically pro faith and anti science. It takes more faith to be a non believer than to be a believer. The atheist says that they cannot believe in a God they cannot see. So they don't believe in sub atomic particles either. The atheist claims they will not believe in the existence of something that cannot be proved. That means that Higgs-Bosun cannot be proved.
We know that sub atomic particles exist because of the affect they have on other particles that we can see. We know that Higgs Bosun exists because everything has mass. No one has ever seen a quark. What's a muon? Do you know? Have you ever seen one? Can we prove that muons exist to the satisfaction of the ignorant dullards that watch American Idol? No. They are atheists.
In Subatomic Tracking, Clues to the Unseen Universe - NYTimes.com
An experiment that tracks subtle motions of subatomic particles called muons has found tantalizing evidence for a vast shadow universe of normally unseen matter existing side by side with ours, scientists at the Brookhaven National Laboratory said yesterday.
The significance of the findings has been thrown into doubt by a series of mathematical errors and theoretical disagreements by physicists around the world who have been weighing the evidence for what would, if correct, rank as one of the greatest discoveries in science.
The Brookhaven ''g minus 2'' experiment has produced extraordinarily minute observations of the gyrating muons. In a dispiriting turn for the experimenters, though, the theoretical predictions of how encounters with ordinary matter should affect the dance of the particles have come into doubt. Only through differences between the expected and observed behavior of the muons (pronounced MEW-ahnz) could the existence of new matter be inferred.
This is also how we can infer the existence of God.
They aren't just anti-science, they're anti-EDUCATION. Read that driveler hollie's crap; or her rants against OXFORD hahahaha....she's an ignorant yahoo...yet she postures as if she's the intellectual superior of everybody around her, because she's ATHEIST.
It's phucking hilarity incarnate.
Why is it always Atheists versus Christians? Why are they seldom against Muslims, or hindus or Jews?
Muslims in particular are the most mysogenistic and homophobic of all religions. They have a doctrine of world domination and are completely intolerant of not only other religions, but of atheists as well. Their extremists murder people whereas Christian extremists seldom do.
Why is it always Atheists versus Christians? Why are they seldom against Muslims, or hindus or Jews?
Muslims in particular are the most mysogenistic and homophobic of all religions. They have a doctrine of world domination and are completely intolerant of not only other religions, but of atheists as well. Their extremists murder people whereas Christian extremists seldom do.
As I understand it, agnostics believe that there is a God but that he/she/it is unknowable. IOW, agnostics actually believe in a higher power whereas atheists do not.This is exactly why atheism is not a religion. It is non- belief in any of that. Atheism has no beliefs whatsoever concerning anything. It is the simple rejection of all known religious beliefs. You are thoroughly confused as to what atheism actually is.
An agnostic fits your definition better than it does mine. They're the ones with no belief, one way or the other.
Atheists flat-out BELIEVE there is nothing.
But, whatever.
As to the OP -
Jews, Muslims and Hindus aren't trying to legally enforce their religions on me. I can't say the same about Christians.
As to the OP -
Jews, Muslims and Hindus aren't trying to legally enforce their religions on me. I can't say the same about Christians.
Jews and Muslims are. They both join the Christian right on many issues. As time passes look for more outspoken bigotry from Muslims
As to the OP -
Jews, Muslims and Hindus aren't trying to legally enforce their religions on me. I can't say the same about Christians.
Jews and Muslims are. They both join the Christian right on many issues. As time passes look for more outspoken bigotry from Muslims
When I see a law that has the possibility of being passed that would force me to legally obey Halakha or Sharia law, then I'll agree with you.
False analogy based on comparison. Believers are faithful, in other words, because the believe in a deity they cannot prove it exists.
Not in the least. Faithless means disloyal. Failing to prove the existence of your deity is the height of disloyalty.
Nah, you have to use traditional definitions and terms, not your own sense of meaning. And a non-believer never sets the standard for what is loyal or disloyal for a believer. Sorry, kid.
As I understand it, agnostics believe that there is a God but that he/she/it is unknowable. IOW, agnostics actually believe in a higher power whereas atheists do not.This is exactly why atheism is not a religion. It is non- belief in any of that. Atheism has no beliefs whatsoever concerning anything. It is the simple rejection of all known religious beliefs. You are thoroughly confused as to what atheism actually is.
An agnostic fits your definition better than it does mine. They're the ones with no belief, one way or the other.
Atheists flat-out BELIEVE there is nothing.
But, whatever.
As I understand it, agnostics believe that there is a God but that he/she/it is unknowable. IOW, agnostics actually believe in a higher power whereas atheists do not.This is exactly why atheism is not a religion. It is non- belief in any of that. Atheism has no beliefs whatsoever concerning anything. It is the simple rejection of all known religious beliefs. You are thoroughly confused as to what atheism actually is.
An agnostic fits your definition better than it does mine. They're the ones with no belief, one way or the other.
Atheists flat-out BELIEVE there is nothing.
But, whatever.
Agnosticism is the view that the existence or non-existence of any deity is unknown and possibly unknowable. More specifically, agnosticism is the view that the truth values of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, as well as other religious and metaphysical claims—are unknown and (so far as can be judged) unknowable.[1][2][3]
Agnosticism can be defined in various ways, and is sometimes used to indicate doubt or a skeptical approach to questions. In some senses, agnosticism is a stance about the difference between belief and knowledge, rather than about any specific claim or belief.
In the popular sense, an agnostic is someone who neither believes nor disbelieves in the existence of a deity or deities, whereas a theist and an atheist believe and disbelieve, respectively.[2]
In the strict sense, however, agnosticism is the view that humanity does not currently possess the requisite knowledge and/or reason to provide sufficient rational grounds to justify the belief that deities either do or do not exist.
Thomas Henry Huxley, an English biologist, coined the word agnostic in 1869
As I understand it, agnostics believe that there is a God but that he/she/it is unknowable. IOW, agnostics actually believe in a higher power whereas atheists do not.An agnostic fits your definition better than it does mine. They're the ones with no belief, one way or the other.
Atheists flat-out BELIEVE there is nothing.
But, whatever.
Agnosticism is the view that the existence or non-existence of any deity is unknown and possibly unknowable. More specifically, agnosticism is the view that the truth values of certain claimsespecially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, as well as other religious and metaphysical claimsare unknown and (so far as can be judged) unknowable.[1][2][3]
Agnosticism can be defined in various ways, and is sometimes used to indicate doubt or a skeptical approach to questions. In some senses, agnosticism is a stance about the difference between belief and knowledge, rather than about any specific claim or belief.
In the popular sense, an agnostic is someone who neither believes nor disbelieves in the existence of a deity or deities, whereas a theist and an atheist believe and disbelieve, respectively.[2]
In the strict sense, however, agnosticism is the view that humanity does not currently possess the requisite knowledge and/or reason to provide sufficient rational grounds to justify the belief that deities either do or do not exist.
Thomas Henry Huxley, an English biologist, coined the word agnostic in 1869
the different between Believers and Atheists versus Agnostics is humility.
Agnostics are humble enough to recognize that they do NOT know.
As I understand it, agnostics believe that there is a God but that he/she/it is unknowable. IOW, agnostics actually believe in a higher power whereas atheists do not.An agnostic fits your definition better than it does mine. They're the ones with no belief, one way or the other.
Atheists flat-out BELIEVE there is nothing.
But, whatever.
Agnosticism is the view that the existence or non-existence of any deity is unknown and possibly unknowable. More specifically, agnosticism is the view that the truth values of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, as well as other religious and metaphysical claims—are unknown and (so far as can be judged) unknowable.[1][2][3]
Agnosticism can be defined in various ways, and is sometimes used to indicate doubt or a skeptical approach to questions. In some senses, agnosticism is a stance about the difference between belief and knowledge, rather than about any specific claim or belief.
In the popular sense, an agnostic is someone who neither believes nor disbelieves in the existence of a deity or deities, whereas a theist and an atheist believe and disbelieve, respectively.[2]
In the strict sense, however, agnosticism is the view that humanity does not currently possess the requisite knowledge and/or reason to provide sufficient rational grounds to justify the belief that deities either do or do not exist.
Thomas Henry Huxley, an English biologist, coined the word agnostic in 1869
the different between Believers and Atheists versus Agnostics is humility.
Agnostics are humble enough to recognize that they do NOT know.
As I understand it, agnostics believe that there is a God but that he/she/it is unknowable. IOW, agnostics actually believe in a higher power whereas atheists do not.An agnostic fits your definition better than it does mine. They're the ones with no belief, one way or the other.
Atheists flat-out BELIEVE there is nothing.
But, whatever.
Can you elaborate more on what you mean by God being 'unknowable'? Because we Muslims believe he is Unseen. I will elaborate on that more if you wish I do. Appreciate it.
As I understand it, agnostics believe that there is a God but that he/she/it is unknowable. IOW, agnostics actually believe in a higher power whereas atheists do not.An agnostic fits your definition better than it does mine. They're the ones with no belief, one way or the other.
Atheists flat-out BELIEVE there is nothing.
But, whatever.
You understand it incorrectly.
Agnostics (like myself) do not "believe that there is a God".
We "believe" that the question of whether or not a God exists simply can't be answered rationally or logically - and therefore is irrelevant entirely.
Not disbelieving in a God isn't the same as believing in one.
