Zone1 Why is evil allowed in the world?

[BULLDOG]

Well you’ll someday have the opportunity to ask God himself. I’m sure blaming him for your failures and sins will go over real well.

So you won't even try to answer?

 

[westwall]

So you won't even try to answer?

Why try to carry on a conversation with a creature like you? You're a pathological liar.

You are nothing.

 

[BULLDOG]

Why try to carry on a conversation with a creature like you? You're a pathological liar.

You are nothing.

That's ok. If you can't justify your beliefs with Biblical evidence, it's probably best that you just sit down and shut up. The less you say, the harder it is to point out where you are wrong.

 

[theHawk]

So you won't even try to answer?

What do I need to answer?

God gave us a world without evil and death, and yet humans turned their backs on him and believed in the lies of Satan. Why should he hit the reset button? He has already given us an “out” and given us the gift of everlasting life, all we need to do is acknowledge his Son that he sent to save us. It’s pretty simple and easy to accept. Or, you can be arrogant and let your pride get the better of you, and not accept this gift.

So yes, we must endure suffering and death in this world, but we will be given either eternal life in the next, or damnation and the second death.

 

[BULLDOG]

What do I need to answer?

God gave us a world without evil and death, and yet humans turned their backs on him and believed in the lies of Satan. Why should he hit the reset button? He has already given us an “out” and given us the gift of everlasting life, all we need to do is acknowledge his Son that he sent to save us. It’s pretty simple and easy to accept. Or, you can be arrogant and let your pride get the better of you, and not accept this gift.

So yes, we must endure suffering and death in this world, but we will be given either eternal life in the next, or damnation and the second death.

The question was why did God allow evil to enter the world. Was he not powerful enough to prevent it? Seems a loving God would protect his children from harm even if they were misbehaving. If your child wanted to stick his finger in a light socket, would you stop him or just watch because he had free will? What would a loving forgiving God do in a similar situation?

 

[TruthNotBS]

Well you’ll someday have the opportunity to ask God himself. I’m sure blaming him for your failures and sins will go over real well.

What GOD are you talking about? Who is this super-being? Is it Allah? Brahman, Waheguru, who?

 

[TruthNotBS]

What do I need to answer?

God gave us a world without evil and death, and yet humans turned their backs on him and believed in the lies of Satan. Why should he hit the reset button? He has already given us an “out” and given us the gift of everlasting life, all we need to do is acknowledge his Son that he sent to save us. It’s pretty simple and easy to accept. Or, you can be arrogant and let your pride get the better of you, and not accept this gift.

So yes, we must endure suffering and death in this world, but we will be given either eternal life in the next, or damnation and the second death.

How would you know this? Did you read it in a comic book?

 

[buttercup]

Free will.

Since God wants us to trust and love him WILLINGLY, from our own volition (as opposed to being pre-programmed to or forced to) we can pretty much choose our path....by that I mean to either honor God's will, or go against it. The evil in this world is, for the most part, people going against God and doing things that are in opposition to God's will.

This question has been asked and answered tons of times. I mean....maybe you didn't know that, Bulldog, but anyway, there's a very short Cliff-notes answer for you, but there's a lot more to this.

 

[theHawk]

Seems a loving God would protect his children from harm even if they were misbehaving

So you are claiming God doesn’t love us?

 

[theHawk]

What GOD are you talking about? Who is this super-being? Is it Allah? Brahman, Waheguru, who?

I am talking the actual God, not made up fantasy gods like “Allah” or other such nonsense.

 

[TruthNotBS]

I am talking the actual God, not made up fantasy gods like “Allah” or other such nonsense.

I see, so you're an atheist when it comes to all of these other gods, but when it comes to the god that you believe in, you're a theist. What makes your god the "actual GOD" and these other gods, "fantasy gods"? How would you know that your god is the real god, and their god is the "fantasy god"?

 

[BULLDOG]

Free will.

Since God wants us to trust and love him WILLINGLY, from our own volition (as opposed to being pre-programmed to or forced to) we can pretty much choose our path....by that I mean to either honor God's will, or go against it. The evil in this world is, for the most part, people going against God and doing things that are in opposition to God's will.

This question has been asked and answered tons of times. I mean....maybe you didn't know that, Bulldog, but anyway, there's a very short Cliff-notes answer for you, but there's a lot more to this.

Of course, God would want willing compliance. That's not the issue. Should God release evil on the entire world for the misbehavior of one or two people? Isn't God capable of correcting his children individually when they misbehave instead of punishing them all for the behavior of one or two when it happens? God doesn't hit me as someone who would let things get out of hand. No parent punishes all his children for the behavior of one. Are parents more forgiving and loving than God?

 

[TruthNotBS]

Free will.

Since God wants us to trust and love him WILLINGLY, from our own volition (as opposed to being pre-programmed to or forced to) we can pretty much choose our path....by that I mean to either honor God's will, or go against it. The evil in this world is, for the most part, people going against God and doing things that are in opposition to God's will.

This question has been asked and answered tons of times. I mean....maybe you didn't know that, Bulldog, but anyway, there's a very short Cliff-notes answer for you, but there's a lot more to this.

Much suffering in this world is due to the nature of the material world and has nothing to do with people being religious or not. How would anyone know that the god of the Christians is the real super-being? How is it "free will", when your Christian god is threatening everyone with eternal torment in hell? Your god keeps human beings conscious, in a state of eternal suffering. If a man places a knife on a woman's throat and tells her "Love Me, or I will torture you forever!", how would that love be the result of free will? God threatens everyone with eternal suffering and somehow free will exists? Did your god ever experience what it truly is to be human? Did he ever experience living as you and I? No.

 

[BULLDOG]

So you are claiming God doesn’t love us?

I'm not claiming anything. It just seems odd that a loving and forgiving God would allow all the damage and pain caused by the evil he allows to exist. Why would a loving God allow an evil person to harm an innocent child? Would you let one child beat up their little sister?

 

[theHawk]

I see, so you're an atheist when it comes to all of these other gods, but when it comes to the god that you believe in, you're a theist. What makes your god the "actual GOD" and these other gods, "fantasy gods"? How would you know that your god is the real god, and their god is the "fantasy god"?

Because I’ve read the Old Testament and New Testament and can logically deduce this conclusion. The other made up religions are totally illogical and contradict themselves at every turn. Quite frankly I am not here to try to convince you, so I could care less what you think of that.

 

[buttercup]

Of course, God would want willing compliance. That's not the issue. Should God release evil on the entire world for the misbehavior of one or two people? Isn't God capable of correcting his children individually when they misbehave instead of punishing them all for the behavior of one or two when it happens? God doesn't hit me as someone who would let things get out of hand. No parent punishes all his children for the behavior of one. Are parents more forgiving and loving than God?

How do you think God is "releasing evil" on the entire world? Again, the evil in this world is, for the most part, people going against God's will and doing things that are in direct opposition to God's basic rules. WE (humans) choose our actions. WE (humans collectively) have in most cases rebelled against God and chosen to do things our own way. You seem to be blaming God for our actions.

Btw, I have a question to ask you, but first I have to ask this, are you an atheist? Or agnostic?

 

[theHawk]

I'm not claiming anything. It just seems odd that a loving and forgiving God would allow all the damage and pain caused by the evil he allows to exist. Why would a loving God allow an evil person to harm an innocent child? Would you let one child beat up their little sister?

Adam and Eve were not children. They were adults with responsibilities.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Free will.

Since God wants us to trust and love him WILLINGLY, from our own volition (as opposed to being pre-programmed to or forced to) we can pretty much choose our path....by that I mean to either honor God's will, or go against it. The evil in this world is, for the most part, people going against God and doing things that are in opposition to God's will.

This question has been asked and answered tons of times. I mean....maybe you didn't know that, Bulldog, but anyway, there's a very short Cliff-notes answer for you, but there's a lot more to this.

So why did he kill everyone in the Noah's Ark story if it was all about free will?

 

[BULLDOG]

How do you think God is "releasing evil" on the entire world? Again, the evil in this world is, for the most part, people going against God's will and doing things that are in direct opposition to God's basic rules. WE (humans) choose our actions. WE (humans collectively) have in most cases rebelled against God and chosen to do things our own way. You seem to be blaming God for our actions.

Btw, I have a question to ask you, but first I have to ask this, are you an atheist? Or agnostic?

Nope. I'm not blaming God for our actions. I am questioning God for his inaction. What godly cause is served by allowing an evil person to harm an innocent child? I would protect my blameless child. Why doesn't God do that?

 

[BULLDOG]

Adam and Eve were not children. They were adults with responsibilities.

So why didn't he correct or punish them when it happened and be done with that incident instead of punishing all their blameless decedents forever? Doesn't sound like what a loving forgiving god would do. All their kids didn't eat the apple.