Why Is Bill Cosby Finished While Bill Clinton Is Beloved?

Dumb shit, the thread is about comparing the two. If you can't follow along then there is no point in dealing with you.

Oh, that's a relief. I thought you got confused and conflated the two because you were frothing at the mouth.

Oh, wait. That's still probably what happened.

Again, I don't care about special prosecutor or not. Clinton did not lie to protect his family. You know damn good and well with the all the women he fooled around with, Hillary knew he was a cheater.

Actually, I don't know that at all, and neither do you. You aren't part of that relationship. We know that in a 40 something year marriage, he had two DOCUMENTED affairs, and a lot of women who made claims that really can't be substantiated one way or the other.

So back to point, Bill Clinton lied to protect Bill Clinton, no one else, not his family, just Bill Clinton.

Well, if that makes you feel better about the disgusting 70 million dollar witch hunt your side engaged in, fine. Frankly, I wish we had focused on more important issues in the 1990's.

There is misconduct, any HR department would call having sexual relations with a subordinate as misconduct.

The White House isn't an HR Department. And since she was an unpaid intern, it's kind of questionable if she would even qualify as a subordinate. But never mind.

Real world, last job I was at we had a Sales manager who was ******* one of the customer Service Gals. The brilliant solution was not to fire them, but to move her over to Purchasing. But that's the real world. Where you have real people dealing with real problems. ANd most of us don't have people spending millions of dollars to **** with us.

What is amusing is Clinton signed a billed that allowed Paula Jones to bring in his other affairs and sexual improprieties. Trying to appear like he cared about women and their rights, he screwed himself.

Uh, no, not really. Jones' case was dismissed as HAVING ABSOLUTELY NO MERIT!!!!

You guys keep skipping over that little detail. She didn't have a legal leg to stand on even if everything she said was true, which it probably wasn't.

More drivel and you still don't get, not surprised. Again, I had no side. I voted for Clinton the second time. So your are a dumb **** for still thinking this is partisan on my part. Of course you are stupid and dense.

I work in HR, and most companies if a manager is screwing with a subordinate they are fired. You can get sued real easily. Most companies are that way and since you lie so much, I would bet your example is another lie.

Real life, it is a business powder keg, but in your world firing you for being incompetent was a crime.

Again, even though the Jones was dismissed her legal counsel was able to look at previous extramarital affairs and because of a Bill Clinton signed into law.

You are as dishonest as they come.
 
More drivel and you still don't get, not surprised. Again, I had no side. I voted for Clinton the second time. So your are a dumb **** for still thinking this is partisan on my part. Of course you are stupid and dense.

I work in HR, and most companies if a manager is screwing with a subordinate they are fired. You can get sued real easily. Most companies are that way and since you lie so much, I would bet your example is another lie.

Real life, it is a business powder keg, but in your world firing you for being incompetent was a crime.

Again, even though the Jones was dismissed her legal counsel was able to look at previous extramarital affairs and because of a Bill Clinton signed into law.

You are as dishonest as they come.

Wouldn't know, guy, never been fired for being incompetent.

Illegally fired for age and medical discrimination, yes, that's happened. And my lawyer told me that I had a really good case for suing, but I didn't because frankly, I didn't want that kind of reputation.

Now, you guys keep claiming that the VAWA allowed the horseshit Jones lawyers tried to drag in allowed it, but Judge Susan Weber Wright Ruled all that evidence as IRRELEVANT. In short, Clinton lied about a matter that had no legal bearing on the case. She subsequently threw out the hole case, because she recognized bullshit when she saw it.

Reality. People have affairs. People get ahead by ******* the boss. People get fired because their ex-girlfriends are now ******* the boss. I've seen it all. The world moves on.
 
What job do you have that you can **** the interns at work and not get fired for sexual misconduct?

One in the real world. Where people have affairs. I know in my career of at least four cases were managers or supervisors were sleeping with their subordinates. No one was fired. And that's what I know about, because I go OUT OF MY WAY to not get involved in office politics.

Heck, we had a case where everyone assumed our GM was banging our Purchasing Manager, until we found out she was gay.

No, you see, when a guy gets fired for sexual harrassment, it's usually because he's a pig no one likes. But you probably already knew that.
Liar. Even for a scumbag like you it is getting deep.

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More drivel and you still don't get, not surprised. Again, I had no side. I voted for Clinton the second time. So your are a dumb **** for still thinking this is partisan on my part. Of course you are stupid and dense.

I work in HR, and most companies if a manager is screwing with a subordinate they are fired. You can get sued real easily. Most companies are that way and since you lie so much, I would bet your example is another lie.

Real life, it is a business powder keg, but in your world firing you for being incompetent was a crime.

Again, even though the Jones was dismissed her legal counsel was able to look at previous extramarital affairs and because of a Bill Clinton signed into law.

You are as dishonest as they come.

Wouldn't know, guy, never been fired for being incompetent.

Illegally fired for age and medical discrimination, yes, that's happened. And my lawyer told me that I had a really good case for suing, but I didn't because frankly, I didn't want that kind of reputation.

Now, you guys keep claiming that the VAWA allowed the horseshit Jones lawyers tried to drag in allowed it, but Judge Susan Weber Wright Ruled all that evidence as IRRELEVANT. In short, Clinton lied about a matter that had no legal bearing on the case. She subsequently threw out the hole case, because she recognized bullshit when she saw it.

Reality. People have affairs. People get ahead by ******* the boss. People get fired because their ex-girlfriends are now ******* the boss. I've seen it all. The world moves on.

You lost the job because you are trouble and you didn't sue because you had no case.

You went to the trouble to get a lawyer, he investigates and says you have a great case, so you say no. :lmao: You are a bad liar.
 
You lost the job because you are trouble and you didn't sue because you had no case.

No, I don't sue because i know with my resume writing skills, I can easily find a better paying job if i really want one.

Here's the thing. The Douchebag who screwed me over 7 years ago? He's now one of the vendors I deal with and he's trying his best to get me to throw more business his way. (Again, small industry, everyone knows everyone else.) Had I sued him, I doubt I would have the more or less functional relationship i have with his company now.

You went to the trouble to get a lawyer, he investigates and says you have a great case, so you say no. :lmao: You are a bad liar.

I went to the trouble to talk to my lawyer, but we agreed that it would be a drawn out process that probably wouldn't have been worth it.

And honestly, it's much more fun to watch the douchebag grovel for business.
 
But duly noted that you've lost he argument on Clinton and Cosby,a nd are back to fantasizing aobut my personal life by demonstrating your poor reading comprehension skills.
 
But duly noted that you've lost he argument on Clinton and Cosby,a nd are back to fantasizing aobut my personal life by demonstrating your poor reading comprehension skills.

What argument are you speaking of? You said Clinton was protecting his family and I said he wasn't. Pretty obvious he wasn't. So there is no argument.
 
"Why is Bill Cosby finished while Bill Clinton is Beloved?"

Because (1) Bill Cosby is Black and (2) Bubba Clinton is White.

Because (3) Bill Cosby drugged his victims while (4) Bubba Clinton only abused his position of trust and power to over-awe his victims.

Because (5) Bill Cosby doesn't have sufficiently strong political connections to weather the storm while (6) Bubba Clinton has the Liberal side of the aisle wired tight as a drum.

Because (7) Bill Cosby actually crossed the line into charge-able criminality while (8) Bubba Clinton is a lawyer and knew which lines he could cross and which he could not.

Because (9) Bill Cosby's wife is a Political Nobody while (10) Bubba Clinton's wife is a candidate for President of the United States.

Because (11) Bill Cosby is being tossed under the bus for his Conservatism while (12) Bubba Clinton's moral relativism resonates well with Liberal hypocrites.

"It's good to be the King" - Bubba Clinton, 1995

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Actually, much better reasons.

Because (13) The women accusing Cosby are credible with reputations above reproach while (14) the women who accused Clinton were all exposed to be liars, or had what they actually said misrepresented by the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.

There are FIFTY women out there accusing Cosby. Despite all the "Clinton Lists", there are only three women out there still whining about it.

Juanita Brodderick, Kathleen Willey and Paula Jones.

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Brodderick - Couldn't remember the date or even the month this happened in, submitted a sworn affadavit saying it never happened, never told her husband and attended Clinton events after the incident. No Credibility.

Willey- Attempted to defraud people who she owed money to by transferring assets to her children. Sent no less than 16 mails and messages to Clinton After the supposed incident begging for a job and saying how awesome she thought Clinton was. No Credibility.

Jones - Claimed she was traumitized by seeing the First Weiner, but then went on to take off her clothes for Penthouse, and do a celebrity boxing match with Tonya Harding. Has also said on record that the people who supported her had used her for political purposes. No Credibility.

So in short (15) Fifty women with strong credibility vs. (16) 3 women with NO CREDIBILITY.
 
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Because although his show was amusing, Cosby was a scold. He scolded blacks for acting like " ******* " and worshipping drug dealers and having kids out of wedlock they couldn't support.

A pretty typical Republican.

While Clinton is a party animal. He doesn't give anyone crap. Cosby did.
 
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Actually, much better reasons.

Because (13) The women accusing Cosby are credible with reputations above reproach while (14) the women who accused Clinton were all exposed to be liars, or had what they actually said misrepresented by the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.

There are FIFTY women out there accusing Cosby. Despite all the "Clinton Lists", there are only three women out there still whining about it.

Juanita Brodderick, Kathleen Willey and Paula Jones.

So-

Brodderick - Couldn't remember the date or even the month this happened in, submitted a sworn affadavit saying it never happened, never told her husband and attended Clinton events after the incident. No Credibility.

Willey- Attempted to defraud people who she owed money to by transferring assets to her children. Sent no less than 16 mails and messages to Clinton After the supposed incident begging for a job and saying how awesome she thought Clinton was. No Credibility.

Jones - Claimed she was traumitized by seeing the First Weiner, but then went on to take off her clothes for Penthouse, and do a celebrity boxing match with Tonya Harding. Has also said on record that the people who supported her had used her for political purposes. No Credibility.

So in short (15) Fifty women with strong credibility vs. (16) 3 women with NO CREDIBILITY.



The list of women that stepped forward and publicly complained about the former President are:

  • Juanita Broaddrick (AR)- rape
  • Eileen Wellstone (Oxford) - rape
  • Elizabeth Ward Gracen - rape - quid pro quo, post incident intimidation
  • Regina Hopper Blakely - "forced himself on her, biting, bruising her"
  • Kathleen Willey (WH) - sexual assault, intimidations, threats
  • Sandra Allen James (DC) - sexual assault
  • 22 Year Old 1972 (Yale) - sexual assault
  • Kathy Bradshaw (AK) - sexual assault
  • Cristy Zercher - unwelcomed sexual advance, intimidations
  • Paula Jones (AR) - unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
  • Carolyn Moffet -unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
  • 1974 student at University of Arkansas - unwelcomed physical contact
  • 1978-1980 - seven complaints per Arkansas state troopers
  • Monica Lewinsky - quid pro quo, post incident character assault
  • Gennifer Flowers - quid pro quo, post incident character assault
  • Dolly Kyle Browning - post incident character assault
  • Sally Perdue - post incident threats
  • Betty Dalton - rebuffed his advances, married to one of his supporters
  • Denise Reeder - apologetic note scanned
Clinton's list of ignored accusers
 
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The White House isn't an HR Department. And since she was an unpaid intern....
Actually, at the time of the affair, she wasn't an intern.

She was a paid employee. Who really, really, really wanted to **** Bill.
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Before she even left home to go to Washington she told her girlfriends " I packed my Presidential kneepads ".

She INTENDED to seduce Bill from the git go.

She was HARDLY an innocent little girl.

Her friends testified to that in the investigation(s) / witch hunts(s).
 
Bill Clinton's long history of sexual violence (The 30 years of rape you won't find in My Life)

Women have been charging Bill Clinton with sexual assault since his days as a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford 30 years ago.

A continuing investigation into the President's questionable sexual history reveal incidents that go back as far as Clinton's college days, with more than a dozen women claiming his sexual appetites leave little room for the word ''no.''

Juanita Broaddrick, an Arkansas nursing home operator, told NBC's Lisa Myers five weeks ago she was raped by Clinton. NBC shelved the interview, saying they were confirming all parts of the story, but finally aired it Wednesday night.

Broaddrick finally took her story to The Wall Street Journal, which published her account of the brutal rape at the hands of the future President, followed by The Washington Post and some other publications.

But Capitol Hill Blue has confirmed that Broaddrick's story is only one account of many attempted and actual sexual assaults by Clinton that go back 30 years. Among the other incidents:

Eileen Wellstone, 19-year-old English woman who said Clinton sexually assaulted her after she met him at a pub near the Oxford where the future President was a student in 1969. A retired State Department employee, who asked not to be identified, confirmed that he spoke with the family of the girl and filed a report with his superiors. Clinton admitted having sex with the girl, but claimed it was consensual. The victim's family declined to pursue the case; In 1972, a 22-year-old woman told campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton, a law student at the college. No charges were filed, but retired campus policemen contacted by Capitol Hill Blue confirmed the incident. The woman, tracked down by Capitol Hill Blue last week, confirmed the incident, but declined to discuss it further and would not give permission to use her name; In 1974, a female student at the University of Arkansas complained that then-law school instructor Bill Clinton tried to prevent her from leaving his office during a conference. She said he groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse. She complained to her faculty advisor who confronted Clinton, but Clinton claimed the student ''came on'' to him. The student left the school shortly after the incident. Reached at her home in Texas, the former student confirmed the incident, but declined to go on the record with her account. Several former students at the University have confirmed the incident in confidential interviews and said there were other reports of Clinton attempting to force himself on female students; Broaddrick, a volunteer in Clinton's gubernatorial campaign, said he raped her in 1978. Mrs. Broaddrick suffered a bruised and torn lip, which she said she suffered when Clinton bit her during the rape; From 1978-1980, during Clinton's first term as governor of Arkansas, state troopers assigned to protect the governor were aware of at least seven complaints from women who said Clinton forced, or attempted to force, himself on them sexually. One retired state trooper said in an interview that the common joke among those assigned to protect Clinton was "who's next?". One former state trooper said other troopers would often escort women to the governor's hotel room after political events, often more than one an evening; Carolyn Moffet, a legal secretary in Little Rock in 1979, said she met then-governor Clinton at a political fundraiser and shortly thereafter received an invitation to meet the governor in his hotel room. "I was escorted there by a state trooper. When I went in, he was sitting on a couch, wearing only an undershirt. He pointed at his penis and told me to suck it. I told him I didn't even do that for my boyfriend and he got mad, grabbed my head and shoved it into his lap. I pulled away from him and ran out of the room." Elizabeth Ward, the Miss Arkansas who won the Miss America crown in 1982, told friends she was forced by Clinton to have sex with him shortly after she won her state crown. Last year, Ward, who is now married with the last name of Gracen (from her first marriage), told an interviewer she did have sex with Clinton but said it was consensual. Close friends of Ward, however, say she still maintains privately that Clinton forced himself on her. Paula Corbin, an Arkansas state worker, filed a sexual harassment case against Clinton after an encounter in a Little Rock hotel room where the then-governor exposed himself and demanded oral sex. Clinton settled the case with Jones recently with an $850,000 cash payment. Sandra Allen James, a former Washington, DC, political fundraiser says Presidential candidate-to-be Clinton invited her to his hotel room during a political trip to the nation's capital in 1991, pinned her against the wall and stuck his hand up her dress. She says she screamed loud enough for the Arkansas State Trooper stationed outside the hotel suite to bang on the door and ask if everything was all right, at which point Clinton released her and she fled the room. When she reported the incident to her boss, he advised her to keep her mouth shut if she wanted to keep working. Miss James has since married and left Washington. Reached at her home last week, the former Miss James said she later learned that other women suffered the same fate at Clinton's hands when he was in Washington during his Presidential run. Christy Zercher, a flight attendant on Clinton's leased campaign plane in 1992, says Presidential candidate Clinton exposed himself to her, grabbed her breasts and made explicit remarks about oral sex. A video shot on board the plane by ABC News shows an obviously inebriated Clinton with his hand between another young flight attendant's legs. Zercher said later in an interview that White House attorney Bruce Lindsey tried to pressure her into not going public about the assault. Kathleen Willey, a White House volunteer, reported that Clinton grabbed her, fondled her breast and pressed her hand against his genitals during an Oval Office meeting in November, 1993. Willey, who told her story in a 60 Minutes interview, became a target of a White House-directed smear campaign after she went public. In an interview with Capitol Hill Blue, the retired State Department employee said he believed the story Miss Wellstone, the young English woman who said Clinton raped her in 1969.

Bill Clinton's long history of sexual violence (The 30 years of rape you won't find in My Life)
 
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What argument are you speaking of? You said Clinton was protecting his family and I said he wasn't. Pretty obvious he wasn't. So there is no argument.

As I said, guy, you seem to not know much about humans, for someone in human resources.

I do understand, I also understand what Clinton did was purely selfish at the time he did it. If someone was truly thinking of himself, he wouldn't try to screw everyone he came in contact with. Many people cheat and many people don't. Cheating on a marriage mate is a selfish act. Just the way it is.
 
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The White House isn't an HR Department. And since she was an unpaid intern....
Actually, at the time of the affair, she wasn't an intern.

She was a paid employee. Who really, really, really wanted to **** Bill.

What either wanted was irrelevant, in a working atmosphere Bill being the President, being in a position of power, being married, having character, he should have turned Lewinsky away, and should have moved her to another department.

However, when you are selfish and think only of yourself and your own pleasure, you make bad choices.
 
Ah, but ya see, the problem here is that Hillary has taken a pretty extreme stance and said that they have a right to be heard and believed, but she was actively involved in attacking, intimidating, and smearing all of the women who accused Bubba. IOW, everything she says she is against now. Apparently, the message she wants to send is, we'll believe you unless you say something about us. Then we'll destroy you.

YOu know, the whole "Hillary Tried to Destroy Me" theme is kind of weak tea.

So how did Hillary try to destroy any accuser? I mean other than they were exposed as liars.
Were you not paying attention during that time? The women were slammed, smeared, accused of lying, etc and she was involved in the whole thing. Note that Hillary gave a blanket assurance to all women that they had a right to be heard and believed if they were sexually assaulted. Her actions, of course, and your reactions now, give the lie to that stance. What she (and you) REALLY mean is all women who claim rape are to be believed as long as they don't oppose her.
 
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The White House isn't an HR Department. And since she was an unpaid intern....
Actually, at the time of the affair, she wasn't an intern.

She was a paid employee. Who really, really, really wanted to **** Bill.

What either wanted was irrelevant, in a working atmosphere Bill being the President, being in a position of power, being married, having character, he should have turned Lewinsky away, and should have moved her to another department.

However, when you are selfish and think only of yourself and your own pleasure, you make bad choices.
It is interesting that we were told that it is impossible for a man to have a truly consensual relationship with woman in the office if there was a power differential between them, right up until Bubba hit the scene. Then, all of a sudden, it's just perfectly fine. I bet there were a lot of secretaries cussing Bubba and Monica around that time.
 
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