Why I dont want the govt to send checks to americans

[TNHarley]

If "General Welfare" means "any fucking thing we want" the entire remainder of the Constitution is null.

You fuckwads need to go back to lawschool.

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I didnt even go to college but i get it.
Of course, I can fucking read too

 

[Indeependent]

China’s fault; we eliminate our debt to China.

 

[g5000]

Not only is it unconstitutional, it will normalize the freakazoid far left's policies.
People are against it now but start having the govt hand out "free" money to these imbeciles and their politics will change.
"Hey man, this aint so bad. Lets vote for these extreme leftists and get more free shit"
A perfect example is democrats and the welfare system. The "new plantation" as some call it.
Dependence on the federal govt is regressive and flat out stupid.
The "progressives" want to take us back to the 13th century england. A crisis is a perfect way to do it!
Now that you read this, go back to the medias fear mongering.
Good day.

Not seeing how it's unconstitutional.

Please point to that enumerated power in the constitution then.
I'll wait.

BAM, there it is. Right into his own trap.

You see young'un, the Constitution doesn't spell out what the government can do. It spells out what the government CAN'T do.

No, it's the opposite.

Actually, the Constitution enumerates powers. Any powers not enumerated are reserved for the states. It says that quite plainly.

 

[Siete]

Watch these morons use "general welfare"

Very good, you've got to the Preamble.

Now show us where the actual document prohibits it.

The fed gov is given a set of enumerated powers, then states everything else is left to the states. THATS where it "prohibits" it

Here's a nice article about where Congress gets the power of distributing welfare money, which is what this "stimulus" is.

General Welfare

Yes, it gives them the power to spend for general welfare while not exceeding the enunerated powers.
If congress could just decide what is good for the welfare, they could soend money on anything and renders the entire constitution redundent.
Like killing babies. Or punishing children for sins of the father.
Goddamn statists drive me nuts

call virus $ a tax cut and go rub one off -

 

[g5000]

From the link I provided:

Congress appropriates money for a seemingly endless number of national interests, ranging from federal courts, policing, imprisonment, and national security to social programs, environmental protection, and education. No federal court has struck down a spending program on the ground that it failed to promote the general welfare. However, federal spending programs have been struck down on other constitutional grounds.

.thats the way our system works but it doesnt mean it is correct.

I agree. The "general welfare" clause is a loophole big enough to drive a Goldman Sachs bailout through.

 

[westwall]

Not only is it unconstitutional, it will normalize the freakazoid far left's policies.
People are against it now but start having the govt hand out "free" money to these imbeciles and their politics will change.
"Hey man, this aint so bad. Lets vote for these extreme leftists and get more free shit"
A perfect example is democrats and the welfare system. The "new plantation" as some call it.
Dependence on the federal govt is regressive and flat out stupid.
The "progressives" want to take us back to the 13th century england. A crisis is a perfect way to do it!
Now that you read this, go back to the medias fear mongering.
Good day.

On the other hand, if the government mandates you close your business, then the government should be on the hook to pay the lost wages that they are causing. If government wrongs you, they have to make you whole again.

 

[Care4all]

Not only is it unconstitutional, it will normalize the freakazoid far left's policies.
People are against it now but start having the govt hand out "free" money to these imbeciles and their politics will change.
"Hey man, this aint so bad. Lets vote for these extreme leftists and get more free shit"
A perfect example is democrats and the welfare system. The "new plantation" as some call it.
Dependence on the federal govt is regressive and flat out stupid.
The "progressives" want to take us back to the 13th century england. A crisis is a perfect way to do it!
Now that you read this, go back to the medias fear mongering.
Good day.

A total package proposal of $250 billion for everyday citizens, and $750 billion for corporations and businesses is TRUMPs plan....

Funny how you start a thread about Not giving help to we the people, but the $750 billion in welfare for corporations is not a problem...?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Lol, the Constitution is not a Nazi style "alles verboten" document.

No matter how much you tRumplings want it to be.

Yes it is.

9th Amendment:
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

10th Amendment:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

BOOM!

Can you feel that? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh?

This house.....is cleahh.



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[rightwinger]

Welfare is unconstitutional

Explain.

Show where it IS constitutional

He doesn’t have to

The burden is on YOU to prove a law is unconstitutional and get it thrown out

 

[Papageorgio]

I’m not for giving everyone money. There are those that have been hurt economically by this. Teachers are still getting paid while sitting and other companies are pay wages. Small businesses and workers that are being laid off should get unemployment with no hassles. Those are who you help. You don’t need to hand it over to those who don’t need it.

 

[TNHarley]

From the link I provided:

Congress appropriates money for a seemingly endless number of national interests, ranging from federal courts, policing, imprisonment, and national security to social programs, environmental protection, and education. No federal court has struck down a spending program on the ground that it failed to promote the general welfare. However, federal spending programs have been struck down on other constitutional grounds.

.thats the way our system works but it doesnt mean it is correct.

I agree. The "general welfare" clause is a loophole big enough to drive a Goldman Sachs bailout through.

Lol right?
Its not really a loophole, people just made it that way with their "interpretations"

 

[Siete]

Not only is it unconstitutional, it will normalize the freakazoid far left's policies.
People are against it now but start having the govt hand out "free" money to these imbeciles and their politics will change.
"Hey man, this aint so bad. Lets vote for these extreme leftists and get more free shit"
A perfect example is democrats and the welfare system. The "new plantation" as some call it.
Dependence on the federal govt is regressive and flat out stupid.
The "progressives" want to take us back to the 13th century england. A crisis is a perfect way to do it!
Now that you read this, go back to the medias fear mongering.
Good day.

A total package proposal of $250 billion for everyday citizens, and $750 billion for corporations and businesses is TRUMPs plan....

Funny how you start a thread about Not giving help to we the people, but the $750 billion in welfare for corporations is not a problem...?

not to mention blood would be running out of his eyes if it was an obama plan -

 

[rightwinger]

Watch these morons use "general welfare"

Very good, you've got to the Preamble.

Now show us where the actual document prohibits it.

The fed gov is given a set of enumerated powers, then states everything else is left to the states. THATS where it "prohibits" it

Yet the courts have never agreed with that absolute interpretation.
You lose

 

[TNHarley]

Not only is it unconstitutional, it will normalize the freakazoid far left's policies.
People are against it now but start having the govt hand out "free" money to these imbeciles and their politics will change.
"Hey man, this aint so bad. Lets vote for these extreme leftists and get more free shit"
A perfect example is democrats and the welfare system. The "new plantation" as some call it.
Dependence on the federal govt is regressive and flat out stupid.
The "progressives" want to take us back to the 13th century england. A crisis is a perfect way to do it!
Now that you read this, go back to the medias fear mongering.
Good day.

A total package proposal of $250 billion for everyday citizens, and $750 billion for corporations and businesses is TRUMPs plan....

Funny how you start a thread about Not giving help to we the people, but the $750 billion in welfare for corporations is not a problem...?

Of course it is. Corporations shouldnt get a dime from us.
I had a certain point but I dont mind settling your ridiculous assumptions

 

[TNHarley]

Welfare is unconstitutional

Explain.

Show where it IS constitutional

He doesn’t have to

The burden is on YOU to prove a law is unconstitutional and get it thrown out

ok. Read the enumerated powers.
I win.
Dumbass

 

[TNHarley]

Not only is it unconstitutional, it will normalize the freakazoid far left's policies.
People are against it now but start having the govt hand out "free" money to these imbeciles and their politics will change.
"Hey man, this aint so bad. Lets vote for these extreme leftists and get more free shit"
A perfect example is democrats and the welfare system. The "new plantation" as some call it.
Dependence on the federal govt is regressive and flat out stupid.
The "progressives" want to take us back to the 13th century england. A crisis is a perfect way to do it!
Now that you read this, go back to the medias fear mongering.
Good day.

A total package proposal of $250 billion for everyday citizens, and $750 billion for corporations and businesses is TRUMPs plan....

Funny how you start a thread about Not giving help to we the people, but the $750 billion in welfare for corporations is not a problem...?

not to mention blood would be running out of his eyes if it was an obama plan -

Im bashing it you dilapidated bag of dumbfuck.
Good gawd i hope you dont vote

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

9th and 10th Amendments

Everybody can suck it.



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[rightwinger]

I’m not for giving everyone money. There are those that have been hurt economically by this. Teachers are still getting paid while sitting and other companies are pay wages. Small businesses and workers that are being laid off should get unemployment with no hassles. Those are who you help. You don’t need to hand it over to those who don’t need it.

It’s a “Everybody gets a trophy” solution.

Trump wants to get money out into the economy. I don’t think this economic collapse is because there is not enough money in circulation.

We have a disaster. Get all the money to those affected by the disaster.

 

[rightwinger]

9th and 10th Amendments

Everybody can suck it.



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Why?

You seem to be the one sucking it.

 

[g5000]

Not only is it unconstitutional, it will normalize the freakazoid far left's policies.
People are against it now but start having the govt hand out "free" money to these imbeciles and their politics will change.
"Hey man, this aint so bad. Lets vote for these extreme leftists and get more free shit"
A perfect example is democrats and the welfare system. The "new plantation" as some call it.
Dependence on the federal govt is regressive and flat out stupid.
The "progressives" want to take us back to the 13th century england. A crisis is a perfect way to do it!
Now that you read this, go back to the medias fear mongering.
Good day.

A total package proposal of $250 billion for everyday citizens, and $750 billion for corporations and businesses is TRUMPs plan....

Funny how you start a thread about Not giving help to we the people, but the $750 billion in welfare for corporations is not a problem...?

What an interesting coincidence.

$750 Billion