Why I am voting for Obama again

No, I really don't know why the Obama Justice Department hasn't gone after employers of illegal immigrants. Why don't you explain it to me, and keep in mind the Republicans only control the House of Representatives and can't arrest anyone.

Jimmy Carter was leading Ronald Reagan by 4 points in September of '80. We all know how that turned out.

I was under the impression that the current law does not allow for hard time incarceration for business owners who employ illegal immigrants.

and keep in mind that the republicans have more than 40 senators... you do know what that means, don't you? Do they still teach you about filibusters in high school civics class? The reason the current law does NOT allow for hard time in a federal pound-you-in-the-ass prison for CEO's of companies that hire illegal immigrants is that they OWN all of Washington for the most part, and one party in total.

and Mittens is no Ron "the demigod" Reagan.
Where you get this shit from is a mystery.

what are you referring to? Is there a law where the sentencing guidelines for a conviction for hiring an illegal immigrant includes jail time? a simple yes or no will suffice.

and if you don't think that the Chamber of Commerce is keeping it that way, you're naive.
 
expat is voting for The ONE again because 4 years of nearly unrelenting fail is not enough for some libs.

no. because I cannot imagine R&R at the helm... because I cannot imagine the SCOTUS picks Mittens would make, if for no other reason.

Hey, fat fuck... did you read the OP. I laid out my reasons fairly succinctly, if you can't fucking read.... maybe you shouldn't enter into discussions like this.

What a douchebag...
Liberalism SUCKS. It is horrible for the country.
Liberalism is a FAILURE of ideas.

your opinion. feel free to express it. just don't try to pass if off as anything more than that.
 
where did you ever get the idea that I am AFRAID to seal the border?

From your refusal to say you support sealing the border.

Waste of money? Won't it stop criminals and terrorists too?
Free pass to employers? You must have missed my earlier post.
Yes, we should build a northern wall too.

Thinking that the wall is an ineffective means of stopping cheap labor does not mean that I am AFRAID of it. Is english your second language?

So... you think we should build the great wall of America stretching from the Atlantic to the Pacific in the north, and from the Pacific to the Gulf of Mexico in the south to keep terrorists and criminals out of America when they can fly into any airport, and then can certainly board any seaworthy small craft on either the southern or northern side of our border and just cruise into our waters and come ashore at any point?

are you fucking crazy?

So... you think we should build the great wall of America stretching from the Atlantic to the Pacific in the north, and from the Pacific to the Gulf of Mexico

Yes, because I have a problem when 20 million or more illegals just stroll into America.

how many stroll in from Canada every year? What would you estimate the cost of replicating the great wall of china on our northern border might be? and then consider the cost-benefit analysis for that project! :lol:
 
Thinking that the wall is an ineffective means of stopping cheap labor does not mean that I am AFRAID of it. Is english your second language?

So... you think we should build the great wall of America stretching from the Atlantic to the Pacific in the north, and from the Pacific to the Gulf of Mexico in the south to keep terrorists and criminals out of America when they can fly into any airport, and then can certainly board any seaworthy small craft on either the southern or northern side of our border and just cruise into our waters and come ashore at any point?

are you fucking crazy?

So... you think we should build the great wall of America stretching from the Atlantic to the Pacific in the north, and from the Pacific to the Gulf of Mexico

Yes, because I have a problem when 20 million or more illegals just stroll into America.

how many stroll in from Canada every year? What would you estimate the cost of replicating the great wall of china on our northern border might be? and then consider the cost-benefit analysis for that project! :lol:

We don't need the Great Wall of China.
A double fence with a road between.
Cameras and sensors.
And hey, the construction could employ American workers and improve
the job situation for those Americans who compete with illegals for jobs.
Sounds like a win-win.
 
OK. I think I have it. If you are a republican president and you grow the debt at 14% a year, you are a demigod and we name airports after you and folks actually talk about adding your face to Mount Rushmore. If you are a democrat, and you grow the debt at 15% a year, you are the worst president ever. DId I get that right?

Reagan inherited a far worse economy than Obama and had a nuclear USSR to defeat without firing a shot. Why not compare Bush and Obama and see that Obama has more than doubled down on Bush's overspending.


GW Bush had a compounded Annual Growth Rate: 8.03%

Obama had a compounded Annual Growth Rate of 15.21%

National Debt by President: LBJ to Obama - TheStreet

what? Reagan inherited a far worse economy than Obama? what planet were you living on in 2008? Better yet, were you even alive in 1980?

I think using your own data to compare presidents is completely reasonable. Reagan at 14%... a demigod. Obama at 15%... worst president ever?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Except one did turn it around.

Fail........
 
Reagan inherited a far worse economy than Obama and had a nuclear USSR to defeat without firing a shot. Why not compare Bush and Obama and see that Obama has more than doubled down on Bush's overspending.


GW Bush had a compounded Annual Growth Rate: 8.03%

Obama had a compounded Annual Growth Rate of 15.21%

National Debt by President: LBJ to Obama - TheStreet

what? Reagan inherited a far worse economy than Obama? what planet were you living on in 2008? Better yet, were you even alive in 1980?

I think using your own data to compare presidents is completely reasonable. Reagan at 14%... a demigod. Obama at 15%... worst president ever?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Except one did turn it around.

Fail........

and grew the national debt by 14% per year doing it... and you guys think HE'S a god.

hahahahahahahahahahahahha
 
If the goal is to stop illegal immigrants from flooding the labor pool with cheap labor, building a wall is not the best or most cost effective way. Why are you so fixated on a wall and not on solving the root cause of the problem? The problem is not criminals or terrorists, it's cheap labor. "Terrorists and criminals" is a red herring. If terrorists entering America is really your issue, are you proposing that we build a giant wall all along our northern border as well, or do you think that terrorists can magically only enter from the south? And... do you think that terrorists do not know how to operate a boat??? :lol:

I want to build a wall and make E-Verify mandatory.
No illegal can get a job if they can't get in the country.
How about we give a 10 year prison term to every illegal who uses a fake ID or stolen SS number?

So why are you afraid to seal the border?
Don't you want to help unskilled American workers?

HARSH!

How could an illegal alien VOTE if he can't have easy access to fake ID's?
So the Democrat machine has a vested interest in voting on demand without the use of ID! I'm gonna faint! :rolleyes:
 
Why don't we do that now? Don't ask me, ask Obama, since he has the exclusive power to do that and has not done it during his almost 4 years in office.

The green card is an official card issued by the U.S. government to foreign nationals permitting them to work in the U.S. A green card is the difference between a legal worker and an illegal worker. Closing the borders to illegal entry is the first step. Then we can discuss how to handle those already here.

and as said, if the market for cheap labor dries up because employers and CEO's KNOW they will go to prison for hiring them, you wouldn't need to worry about the borders. The illegal immigrants would stop coming and those that were here already would return. The reason we don't do that is because American business interests do NOT want the pool of cheap labor to dry up.

On edit: Why doesn't Obama require employers to use the e-verify system? E-Verify allows businessmen to consult databases of the Department of Homeland Security and the Social Security Administration to check whether job applicants have the legal authorization to be hired.

Could it be that the Unions and Latinos don't want it to be a federal mandate? Alabama, Georgia and Tennessee have e-verify obligatory in their states. There are a lot of chicken processing plants located in these states.

I guess you missed the above edit to my post. Then again, you probably don't have a reasonable answer.

The Obama Justice Department is responsible for the prosecution of CEO's for violating US immigration law. Eric Holder has been too busy selling guns to Mexican drug cartels, suing several US States on behalf of the Mexican government and blocking the incorporation of e-verify to get around to doing that.

Only a fool would want four more years of this gross malfeasance
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Not only are Obama administration partners suing several states over passing state laws to deal with immigration in their own sovereign way, I think they went one too far when they set down a fiat against Arizona lawmen from using Homeland Security tracking on files when they need to find a criminal who is registered there. No other state has had theirs revoked, and it's not Obama's call to withhold Federal information shared with all the states from one state because he lost a lawsuit to Joe Arpaio's department.

It's sour grapes, and he's a sour president to anyone who doesn't care for his criminal use of illegal immigrants to get illegal votes for himself and the DNC.
 
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what? Reagan inherited a far worse economy than Obama? what planet were you living on in 2008? Better yet, were you even alive in 1980?

I think using your own data to compare presidents is completely reasonable. Reagan at 14%... a demigod. Obama at 15%... worst president ever?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Except one did turn it around.

Fail........

and grew the national debt by 14% per year doing it... and you guys think HE'S a god.

hahahahahahahahahahahahha




No, we don't think he's a God. And if you wish to compare debt, Obama increased the debt by how much???? Oh yeah, MORE THAN ALL THE PREVIOUS 43 COMBINED.

But hey, keep on keepin on with your complete ignoring of the facts. You make a good expat. Unfortunately you still get to vote.
 
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Except one did turn it around.

Fail........

and grew the national debt by 14% per year doing it... and you guys think HE'S a god.

hahahahahahahahahahahahha




No, we don't think he's a God. And if you wish to compare debt, Obama increased the debt by how much???? Oh yeah, MORE THAN ALL THE PREVIOUS 43 COMBINED.

But hey, keep on keepin on with your complete ignoring of the facts. You make a good expat. Unfortunately you still get to vote.

the fact remains... Reagan increased the debt at 14%/year and NO republican ever had a problem with that. Obama does it at 15% and, now, republicans think that is the primary reason to condemn HIS presidency as the worst ever. Can you spell H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y???

and you're right... I do get to vote, and so do all the expats down here... and in my neck of Mexico, I don't know a single US expat who is voting for Romney. :lol:
 
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and grew the national debt by 14% per year doing it... and you guys think HE'S a god.

hahahahahahahahahahahahha




No, we don't think he's a God. And if you wish to compare debt, Obama increased the debt by how much???? Oh yeah, MORE THAN ALL THE PREVIOUS 43 COMBINED.

But hey, keep on keepin on with your complete ignoring of the facts. You make a good expat. Unfortunately you still get to vote.

the fact remains... Reagan increased the debt at 14%/year and NO republican ever had a problem with that. Obama does it at 15% and, now, republicans think that is the primary reason to condemn HIS presidency as the worst ever. Can you spell H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y???

and you're right... I do get to vote, and so do all the expats down here... and in my neck of Mexico, I don't know a single US expat who is voting for Romney. :lol:






The fact remains that Obama has generated more debt than the previous 43 presidents combined. In other words, for the historically impaired (such as you), in 4 years Obama has generated more debt than was generated in the previous 232 YEARS!

You sir, are a moron.
 
No, we don't think he's a God. And if you wish to compare debt, Obama increased the debt by how much???? Oh yeah, MORE THAN ALL THE PREVIOUS 43 COMBINED.

But hey, keep on keepin on with your complete ignoring of the facts. You make a good expat. Unfortunately you still get to vote.

the fact remains... Reagan increased the debt at 14%/year and NO republican ever had a problem with that. Obama does it at 15% and, now, republicans think that is the primary reason to condemn HIS presidency as the worst ever. Can you spell H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y???

and you're right... I do get to vote, and so do all the expats down here... and in my neck of Mexico, I don't know a single US expat who is voting for Romney. :lol:






The fact remains that Obama has generated more debt than the previous 43 presidents combined. In other words, for the historically impaired (such as you), in 4 years Obama has generated more debt than was generated in the previous 232 YEARS!

You sir, are a moron.

so your fact is a fact and my fact is NOT a fact? Is that what you're trying to say?
And no... I am most certainly not a moron. I am a very smart guy and a very successful guy and I have forgotten more about politics in my life than you have ever known... but, regardless... moron? really? that's funny. I am laughing all the way to the bank. really. I am. :lol:
 
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This reminds me of the "hate" thread, in which both "sides" are doing a lovely job of pointing out the hateful behavior of the other.

"YOUR guy increased the debt by 15%, MY guy only increased the debt by 14%."

Holy crap. My cynicism is justified.

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absolutely. I think that the OP was reasonable, yet nearly every reply thereto was along the lines of "your mother wears combat boots". :lol:

That, or pure fabrication like westwall's #591.
 
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Because you're a Zombie, an idiot with no common sense? Obama's 2013 budget- 1.3 trillion more to the deficit-- for a total of 7.3 billion by this President alone which is nearly HALF of the entire federal deficit, more than any President and all President's combined throughout the history of our entire country and you're voting for this limp dicked Socialist again. Pat yourself on the back.. when this economy collapses and it will, there will be a run on the banks.. Pat yourself on the back for that too lemming... you liberals hold the responsiblity.. Fools.

Obama’s Budget Forecasts $1.3 Trillion Deficit - ABC News
 
No, we don't think he's a God. And if you wish to compare debt, Obama increased the debt by how much???? Oh yeah, MORE THAN ALL THE PREVIOUS 43 COMBINED.

But hey, keep on keepin on with your complete ignoring of the facts. You make a good expat. Unfortunately you still get to vote.

the fact remains... Reagan increased the debt at 14%/year and NO republican ever had a problem with that. Obama does it at 15% and, now, republicans think that is the primary reason to condemn HIS presidency as the worst ever. Can you spell H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y???

and you're right... I do get to vote, and so do all the expats down here... and in my neck of Mexico, I don't know a single US expat who is voting for Romney. :lol:






The fact remains that Obama has generated more debt than the previous 43 presidents combined. In other words, for the historically impaired (such as you), in 4 years Obama has generated more debt than was generated in the previous 232 YEARS!

You sir, are a moron.

Absolutely.. to the tune if re-elected after this year, 7.3 TRILLION DOLLARS.. NEARLY HALF OF THE ENTIRE DEFICIT.. These fools would follow Obama if he jumped off of a bridge.. They're Zombies, braindead fools.
 
the fact remains... Reagan increased the debt at 14%/year and NO republican ever had a problem with that. Obama does it at 15% and, now, republicans think that is the primary reason to condemn HIS presidency as the worst ever. Can you spell H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y???

and you're right... I do get to vote, and so do all the expats down here... and in my neck of Mexico, I don't know a single US expat who is voting for Romney. :lol:






The fact remains that Obama has generated more debt than the previous 43 presidents combined. In other words, for the historically impaired (such as you), in 4 years Obama has generated more debt than was generated in the previous 232 YEARS!

You sir, are a moron.

Absolutely.. to the tune if re-elected after this year, 7.3 TRILLION DOLLARS.. NEARLY HALF OF THE ENTIRE DEFICIT.. These fools would follow Obama if he jumped off of a bridge.. They're Zombies, braindead fools.

so... I guess the fact that westwall's post #591 is a complete lie means little to you?
 
and grew the national debt by 14% per year doing it... and you guys think HE'S a god.

hahahahahahahahahahahahha

No, we don't think he's a God. And if you wish to compare debt, Obama increased the debt by how much???? Oh yeah, MORE THAN ALL THE PREVIOUS 43 COMBINED.

But hey, keep on keepin on with your complete ignoring of the facts. You make a good expat. Unfortunately you still get to vote.

the fact remains... Reagan increased the debt at 14%/year and NO republican ever had a problem with that. Obama does it at 15% and, now, republicans think that is the primary reason to condemn HIS presidency as the worst ever. Can you spell H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y???

and you're right... I do get to vote, and so do all the expats down here... and in my neck of Mexico, I don't know a single US expat who is voting for Romney. :lol:
It is thorough idiot math omission to justify borrowing 6 trillion dollars you couldn't possibly pay back for blaming anybody for the doings of 30 years ago.

Obama said he would cut the deficit in half by this time before the election. After the election, he did precisely what his Senate voting record showed us he would do--spend the nation into oblivion without so much as a glance toward the Constitution that outlines presidential responsibilities.

By turning a strong nation into such a weak sister financially, Obama has provided for the common slaughter, and not the common defense.

Keep being a partisan idiot and you'll get us all killed, mofo.
 

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