Why Humans Can't Even Colonize Mars

We can visit Mars for a short time like we did the moon but the soil is toxic and the radiation is intense. We won't stay very long.
The problem is, it's a 2 year trip, minimum. To the moon is only a few days.

That's a LOOONG time to go without an equipment malfunction that could cost everyone their lives.

And MOST of the mars landings ended in failure


Most people don't have a clue how big Space is.

If the sun was the size of a golf ball the nearest star would be about 760 miles away.

It would take the entire energy output of the world for three years to propel a spacecraft the size of a Shuttle to 20% the speed of light.

...and Mars is relatively "close".
Not if an ion drive is employed, though I agree that blowing stuff off the Earth is meaningless
Nobody wants to face the fact that the earth is humanity's home/prison.

People have been brainwashed by science FICTION
Not so long ago the Oceans imprisoned people to where they were. Soon space will just be another ocean to cross


The Atlanta Ocean is absolutely nothing compared to the vast distances in Space. Like the speck on a nat's ass compared to the continent of North America.

We may be able to make it to Mars. In our wildest dreams maybe even a little farther out but we are never leaving this solar system.

It is one thing to invent a sail. It is another thing to invent something that circumvents the Laws of Physics.
 
We can visit Mars for a short time like we did the moon but the soil is toxic and the radiation is intense. We won't stay very long.
The problem is, it's a 2 year trip, minimum. To the moon is only a few days.

That's a LOOONG time to go without an equipment malfunction that could cost everyone their lives.

And MOST of the mars landings ended in failure


Most people don't have a clue how big Space is.

If the sun was the size of a golf ball the nearest star would be about 760 miles away.

It would take the entire energy output of the world for three years to propel a spacecraft the size of a Shuttle to 20% the speed of light.

...and Mars is relatively "close".
Not if an ion drive is employed, though I agree that blowing stuff off the Earth is meaningless
Nobody wants to face the fact that the earth is humanity's home/prison.

People have been brainwashed by science FICTION
Not so long ago the Oceans imprisoned people to where they were. Soon space will just be another ocean to cross


The Atlanta Ocean is absolutely nothing compared to the vast distances in Space. Like the speck on a nat's ass compared to the continent of North America.

We may be able to make it to Mars. In our wildest dreams maybe even a little farther out but we are never leaving this solar system.

It is one thing to invent a sail. It is another thing to invent something that circumvents the Laws of Physics.
Space can be crossed as we came from somewhere out there to begin with. Or do you believe that everything began in an Earth pond like Darwin. You are looking at the problem by blowing things off the Earth, it is true that this goes no where. There will be new engines using new concepts that do not necessarily even use fuel.
 
We can visit Mars for a short time like we did the moon but the soil is toxic and the radiation is intense. We won't stay very long.
The problem is, it's a 2 year trip, minimum. To the moon is only a few days.

That's a LOOONG time to go without an equipment malfunction that could cost everyone their lives.

And MOST of the mars landings ended in failure


Most people don't have a clue how big Space is.

If the sun was the size of a golf ball the nearest star would be about 760 miles away.

It would take the entire energy output of the world for three years to propel a spacecraft the size of a Shuttle to 20% the speed of light.

...and Mars is relatively "close".
Not if an ion drive is employed, though I agree that blowing stuff off the Earth is meaningless
Nobody wants to face the fact that the earth is humanity's home/prison.

People have been brainwashed by science FICTION
Not so long ago the Oceans imprisoned people to where they were. Soon space will just be another ocean to cross


The Atlanta Ocean is absolutely nothing compared to the vast distances in Space. Like the speck on a nat's ass compared to the continent of North America.

We may be able to make it to Mars. In our wildest dreams maybe even a little farther out but we are never leaving this solar system.

It is one thing to invent a sail. It is another thing to invent something that circumvents the Laws of Physics.
Space can be crossed as we came from somewhere out there to begin with. Or do you believe that everything began in an Earth pond like Darwin. You are looking at the problem by blowing things off the Earth, it is true that this goes no where. There will be new engines using new concepts that do not necessarily even use fuel.


What I believe is that Space is vast and we don't have the technology or likely to ever get the technology to explore it like we see in the science fiction movies.

There is no such thing as a "Warp Drive". Any concept of a warp drive will challenge the Laws of Physics.

We mostly use chemical energy now. A controlled exploding bomb. A couple of other technologies could get us putt putting around like Ion drive but nothing that really gets us out of our solar system.

It is called reality.
 
We can visit Mars for a short time like we did the moon but the soil is toxic and the radiation is intense. We won't stay very long.
The problem is, it's a 2 year trip, minimum. To the moon is only a few days.

That's a LOOONG time to go without an equipment malfunction that could cost everyone their lives.

And MOST of the mars landings ended in failure


Most people don't have a clue how big Space is.

If the sun was the size of a golf ball the nearest star would be about 760 miles away.

It would take the entire energy output of the world for three years to propel a spacecraft the size of a Shuttle to 20% the speed of light.

...and Mars is relatively "close".
Not if an ion drive is employed, though I agree that blowing stuff off the Earth is meaningless
Nobody wants to face the fact that the earth is humanity's home/prison.

People have been brainwashed by science FICTION
Not so long ago the Oceans imprisoned people to where they were. Soon space will just be another ocean to cross


The Atlanta Ocean is absolutely nothing compared to the vast distances in Space. Like the speck on a nat's ass compared to the continent of North America.

We may be able to make it to Mars. In our wildest dreams maybe even a little farther out but we are never leaving this solar system.

It is one thing to invent a sail. It is another thing to invent something that circumvents the Laws of Physics.
Space can be crossed as we came from somewhere out there to begin with. Or do you believe that everything began in an Earth pond like Darwin. You are looking at the problem by blowing things off the Earth, it is true that this goes no where. There will be new engines using new concepts that do not necessarily even use fuel.


What I believe is that Space is vast and we don't have the technology or likely to ever get the technology to explore it like we see in the science fiction movies.

There is no such thing as a "Warp Drive". Any concept of a warp drive will challenge the Laws of Physics.

We mostly use chemical energy now. A controlled exploding bomb. A couple of other technologies could get us putt putting around like Ion drive but nothing that really gets us out of our solar system.

It is called reality.
What we use now doesn't say anything about what we might use in the future and if anything has been proven about humans in the last few centuries is that our ability to solve problems is mostly only limited by our imagination. Even now people way smarter than you or me are theorizing about ways to cover astronomical distances that don't require chemical energy to travel.

The point is. To make sweeping statements as you do has been shown to be a losing bet if opposed to human ingenuity.
 
We can visit Mars for a short time like we did the moon but the soil is toxic and the radiation is intense. We won't stay very long.
The problem is, it's a 2 year trip, minimum. To the moon is only a few days.

That's a LOOONG time to go without an equipment malfunction that could cost everyone their lives.

And MOST of the mars landings ended in failure


Most people don't have a clue how big Space is.

If the sun was the size of a golf ball the nearest star would be about 760 miles away.

It would take the entire energy output of the world for three years to propel a spacecraft the size of a Shuttle to 20% the speed of light.

...and Mars is relatively "close".
Not if an ion drive is employed, though I agree that blowing stuff off the Earth is meaningless
Nobody wants to face the fact that the earth is humanity's home/prison.

People have been brainwashed by science FICTION
Not so long ago the Oceans imprisoned people to where they were. Soon space will just be another ocean to cross


The Atlanta Ocean is absolutely nothing compared to the vast distances in Space. Like the speck on a nat's ass compared to the continent of North America.

We may be able to make it to Mars. In our wildest dreams maybe even a little farther out but we are never leaving this solar system.

It is one thing to invent a sail. It is another thing to invent something that circumvents the Laws of Physics.
Space can be crossed as we came from somewhere out there to begin with. Or do you believe that everything began in an Earth pond like Darwin. You are looking at the problem by blowing things off the Earth, it is true that this goes no where. There will be new engines using new concepts that do not necessarily even use fuel.


What I believe is that Space is vast and we don't have the technology or likely to ever get the technology to explore it like we see in the science fiction movies.

There is no such thing as a "Warp Drive". Any concept of a warp drive will challenge the Laws of Physics.

We mostly use chemical energy now. A controlled exploding bomb. A couple of other technologies could get us putt putting around like Ion drive but nothing that really gets us out of our solar system.

It is called reality.
What we use now doesn't say anything about what we might use in the future and if anything has been proven about humans in the last few centuries is that our ability to solve problems is mostly only limited by our imagination. Even now people way smarter than you or me are theorizing about ways to cover astronomical distances that don't require chemical energy to travel.

The point is. To make sweeping statements as you do has been shown to be a losing bet if opposed to human ingenuity.


The problem is that we are running up against the Laws of Physics. That is much different from the things we have invented in the past.

The other problem is that we think we can do it because we have been brainwashed by 100 years of Science Fiction. Most people think that because we see star trekking across the universe on TV and at the movies it can happen. They have no idea of the technological problems that have to be overcome to make it happen. Not a clue.

We have gone to the moon. There is a good possibility that we will send someone to Mars. Probably a couple of trips. I doubt we will ever establish any sort of permanent or even temporary base. I doubt we will ever go any farther than that.

By the way, Joe Dufus has changed the mission of NASA. Instead of concentrating on going to Mars like Trump wanted to do he is refocusing NASA's mission on this silly AGW scam. If anybody goes to Mars it will probably be the Joe Dufus Chicom buddies.
 
We can visit Mars for a short time like we did the moon but the soil is toxic and the radiation is intense. We won't stay very long.
The problem is, it's a 2 year trip, minimum. To the moon is only a few days.

That's a LOOONG time to go without an equipment malfunction that could cost everyone their lives.

And MOST of the mars landings ended in failure


Most people don't have a clue how big Space is.

If the sun was the size of a golf ball the nearest star would be about 760 miles away.

It would take the entire energy output of the world for three years to propel a spacecraft the size of a Shuttle to 20% the speed of light.

...and Mars is relatively "close".
Not if an ion drive is employed, though I agree that blowing stuff off the Earth is meaningless
Nobody wants to face the fact that the earth is humanity's home/prison.

People have been brainwashed by science FICTION
Not so long ago the Oceans imprisoned people to where they were. Soon space will just be another ocean to cross


The Atlanta Ocean is absolutely nothing compared to the vast distances in Space. Like the speck on a nat's ass compared to the continent of North America.

We may be able to make it to Mars. In our wildest dreams maybe even a little farther out but we are never leaving this solar system.

It is one thing to invent a sail. It is another thing to invent something that circumvents the Laws of Physics.
Space can be crossed as we came from somewhere out there to begin with. Or do you believe that everything began in an Earth pond like Darwin. You are looking at the problem by blowing things off the Earth, it is true that this goes no where. There will be new engines using new concepts that do not necessarily even use fuel.


What I believe is that Space is vast and we don't have the technology or likely to ever get the technology to explore it like we see in the science fiction movies.

There is no such thing as a "Warp Drive". Any concept of a warp drive will challenge the Laws of Physics.

We mostly use chemical energy now. A controlled exploding bomb. A couple of other technologies could get us putt putting around like Ion drive but nothing that really gets us out of our solar system.

It is called reality.
While it is true that we do not know what we do not know, it is also true that for 99.999 percent of humans time on Earth the oceans were not crossable. Again space is just another ocean, crossing it is not optional as it was not optional for our ancestors who brought us here. Either we cross space or we die on this sad rock. We are eternal, the vastness of the universe is our home. But you stay there in your negative world and die alone
 
We can visit Mars for a short time like we did the moon but the soil is toxic and the radiation is intense. We won't stay very long.
The problem is, it's a 2 year trip, minimum. To the moon is only a few days.

That's a LOOONG time to go without an equipment malfunction that could cost everyone their lives.

And MOST of the mars landings ended in failure


Most people don't have a clue how big Space is.

If the sun was the size of a golf ball the nearest star would be about 760 miles away.

It would take the entire energy output of the world for three years to propel a spacecraft the size of a Shuttle to 20% the speed of light.

...and Mars is relatively "close".
Not if an ion drive is employed, though I agree that blowing stuff off the Earth is meaningless
Nobody wants to face the fact that the earth is humanity's home/prison.

People have been brainwashed by science FICTION
Not so long ago the Oceans imprisoned people to where they were. Soon space will just be another ocean to cross


The Atlanta Ocean is absolutely nothing compared to the vast distances in Space. Like the speck on a nat's ass compared to the continent of North America.

We may be able to make it to Mars. In our wildest dreams maybe even a little farther out but we are never leaving this solar system.

It is one thing to invent a sail. It is another thing to invent something that circumvents the Laws of Physics.
Space can be crossed as we came from somewhere out there to begin with. Or do you believe that everything began in an Earth pond like Darwin. You are looking at the problem by blowing things off the Earth, it is true that this goes no where. There will be new engines using new concepts that do not necessarily even use fuel.


What I believe is that Space is vast and we don't have the technology or likely to ever get the technology to explore it like we see in the science fiction movies.

There is no such thing as a "Warp Drive". Any concept of a warp drive will challenge the Laws of Physics.

We mostly use chemical energy now. A controlled exploding bomb. A couple of other technologies could get us putt putting around like Ion drive but nothing that really gets us out of our solar system.

It is called reality.
What we use now doesn't say anything about what we might use in the future and if anything has been proven about humans in the last few centuries is that our ability to solve problems is mostly only limited by our imagination. Even now people way smarter than you or me are theorizing about ways to cover astronomical distances that don't require chemical energy to travel.

The point is. To make sweeping statements as you do has been shown to be a losing bet if opposed to human ingenuity.


The problem is that we are running up against the Laws of Physics. That is much different from the things we have invented in the past.

The other problem is that we think we can do it because we have been brainwashed by 100 years of Science Fiction. Most people think that because we see star trekking across the universe on TV and at the movies it can happen. They have no idea of the technological problems that have to be overcome to make it happen. Not a clue.

We have gone to the moon. There is a good possibility that we will send someone to Mars. Probably a couple of trips. I doubt we will ever establish any sort of permanent or even temporary base. I doubt we will ever go any farther than that.

By the way, Joe Dufus has changed the mission of NASA. Instead of concentrating on going to Mars like Trump wanted to do he is refocusing NASA's mission on this silly AGW scam. If anybody goes to Mars it will probably be the Joe Dufus Chicom buddies.
My point is that there are ways to circumvent any law, including the laws of physics, and finding ways to circumvent limitations is what science does best. We couldn't see exoplanets directly so we devised a way to find them despite this limitation for instance.

Who's to say that something weird like folding space around a spaceship to get from one place to another isn't feasible? You wouldn't require faster than light travel then. Or some other way that we can't even conceive yet?

Imagine telling someone in 1900 that we would land on the moon 60 plus years later? You would be considered crazy.
 
We can visit Mars for a short time like we did the moon but the soil is toxic and the radiation is intense. We won't stay very long.
The problem is, it's a 2 year trip, minimum. To the moon is only a few days.

That's a LOOONG time to go without an equipment malfunction that could cost everyone their lives.

And MOST of the mars landings ended in failure


Most people don't have a clue how big Space is.

If the sun was the size of a golf ball the nearest star would be about 760 miles away.

It would take the entire energy output of the world for three years to propel a spacecraft the size of a Shuttle to 20% the speed of light.

...and Mars is relatively "close".
Not if an ion drive is employed, though I agree that blowing stuff off the Earth is meaningless
Nobody wants to face the fact that the earth is humanity's home/prison.

People have been brainwashed by science FICTION
Not so long ago the Oceans imprisoned people to where they were. Soon space will just be another ocean to cross


The Atlanta Ocean is absolutely nothing compared to the vast distances in Space. Like the speck on a nat's ass compared to the continent of North America.

We may be able to make it to Mars. In our wildest dreams maybe even a little farther out but we are never leaving this solar system.

It is one thing to invent a sail. It is another thing to invent something that circumvents the Laws of Physics.
Space can be crossed as we came from somewhere out there to begin with. Or do you believe that everything began in an Earth pond like Darwin. You are looking at the problem by blowing things off the Earth, it is true that this goes no where. There will be new engines using new concepts that do not necessarily even use fuel.


What I believe is that Space is vast and we don't have the technology or likely to ever get the technology to explore it like we see in the science fiction movies.

There is no such thing as a "Warp Drive". Any concept of a warp drive will challenge the Laws of Physics.

We mostly use chemical energy now. A controlled exploding bomb. A couple of other technologies could get us putt putting around like Ion drive but nothing that really gets us out of our solar system.

It is called reality.
While it is true that we do not know what we do not know, it is also true that for 99.999 percent of humans time on Earth the oceans were not crossable. Again space is just another ocean, crossing it is not optional as it was not optional for our ancestors who brought us here. Either we cross space or we die on this sad rock. We are eternal, the vastness of the universe is our home. But you stay there in your negative world and die alone


You can get across the Pacific Ocean with the wind pushing a sail. You can fly in the air applying the principles of Bernoulli equation. You can drive a car by exploding gas fumes on a piston in an enclosed cylinder.

However, to travel the vast distances of Space in the life time of a human being challenges the Laws of Physics.

Big difference. Really big difference!
 
We can visit Mars for a short time like we did the moon but the soil is toxic and the radiation is intense. We won't stay very long.
The problem is, it's a 2 year trip, minimum. To the moon is only a few days.

That's a LOOONG time to go without an equipment malfunction that could cost everyone their lives.

And MOST of the mars landings ended in failure


Most people don't have a clue how big Space is.

If the sun was the size of a golf ball the nearest star would be about 760 miles away.

It would take the entire energy output of the world for three years to propel a spacecraft the size of a Shuttle to 20% the speed of light.

...and Mars is relatively "close".
Not if an ion drive is employed, though I agree that blowing stuff off the Earth is meaningless
Nobody wants to face the fact that the earth is humanity's home/prison.

People have been brainwashed by science FICTION
Not so long ago the Oceans imprisoned people to where they were. Soon space will just be another ocean to cross


The Atlanta Ocean is absolutely nothing compared to the vast distances in Space. Like the speck on a nat's ass compared to the continent of North America.

We may be able to make it to Mars. In our wildest dreams maybe even a little farther out but we are never leaving this solar system.

It is one thing to invent a sail. It is another thing to invent something that circumvents the Laws of Physics.
Space can be crossed as we came from somewhere out there to begin with. Or do you believe that everything began in an Earth pond like Darwin. You are looking at the problem by blowing things off the Earth, it is true that this goes no where. There will be new engines using new concepts that do not necessarily even use fuel.


What I believe is that Space is vast and we don't have the technology or likely to ever get the technology to explore it like we see in the science fiction movies.

There is no such thing as a "Warp Drive". Any concept of a warp drive will challenge the Laws of Physics.

We mostly use chemical energy now. A controlled exploding bomb. A couple of other technologies could get us putt putting around like Ion drive but nothing that really gets us out of our solar system.

It is called reality.
What we use now doesn't say anything about what we might use in the future and if anything has been proven about humans in the last few centuries is that our ability to solve problems is mostly only limited by our imagination. Even now people way smarter than you or me are theorizing about ways to cover astronomical distances that don't require chemical energy to travel.

The point is. To make sweeping statements as you do has been shown to be a losing bet if opposed to human ingenuity.


The problem is that we are running up against the Laws of Physics. That is much different from the things we have invented in the past.

The other problem is that we think we can do it because we have been brainwashed by 100 years of Science Fiction. Most people think that because we see star trekking across the universe on TV and at the movies it can happen. They have no idea of the technological problems that have to be overcome to make it happen. Not a clue.

We have gone to the moon. There is a good possibility that we will send someone to Mars. Probably a couple of trips. I doubt we will ever establish any sort of permanent or even temporary base. I doubt we will ever go any farther than that.

By the way, Joe Dufus has changed the mission of NASA. Instead of concentrating on going to Mars like Trump wanted to do he is refocusing NASA's mission on this silly AGW scam. If anybody goes to Mars it will probably be the Joe Dufus Chicom buddies.
My point is that there are ways to circumvent any law, including the laws of physics, and finding ways to circumvent limitations is what science does best. We couldn't see exoplanets directly so we devised a way to find them despite this limitation for instance.

Who's to say that something weird like folding space around a spaceship to get from one place to another isn't feasible? You wouldn't require faster than light travel then. Or some other way that we can't even conceive yet?

Imagine telling someone in 1900 that we would land on the moon 60 plus years later? You would be considered crazy.


That folding space hogwash has no foundation in any reality that we know. It is nothing more than Science Fiction.
 
We can visit Mars for a short time like we did the moon but the soil is toxic and the radiation is intense. We won't stay very long.
The problem is, it's a 2 year trip, minimum. To the moon is only a few days.

That's a LOOONG time to go without an equipment malfunction that could cost everyone their lives.

And MOST of the mars landings ended in failure


Most people don't have a clue how big Space is.

If the sun was the size of a golf ball the nearest star would be about 760 miles away.

It would take the entire energy output of the world for three years to propel a spacecraft the size of a Shuttle to 20% the speed of light.

...and Mars is relatively "close".
Not if an ion drive is employed, though I agree that blowing stuff off the Earth is meaningless
Nobody wants to face the fact that the earth is humanity's home/prison.

People have been brainwashed by science FICTION
Not so long ago the Oceans imprisoned people to where they were. Soon space will just be another ocean to cross


The Atlanta Ocean is absolutely nothing compared to the vast distances in Space. Like the speck on a nat's ass compared to the continent of North America.

We may be able to make it to Mars. In our wildest dreams maybe even a little farther out but we are never leaving this solar system.

It is one thing to invent a sail. It is another thing to invent something that circumvents the Laws of Physics.
Space can be crossed as we came from somewhere out there to begin with. Or do you believe that everything began in an Earth pond like Darwin. You are looking at the problem by blowing things off the Earth, it is true that this goes no where. There will be new engines using new concepts that do not necessarily even use fuel.


What I believe is that Space is vast and we don't have the technology or likely to ever get the technology to explore it like we see in the science fiction movies.

There is no such thing as a "Warp Drive". Any concept of a warp drive will challenge the Laws of Physics.

We mostly use chemical energy now. A controlled exploding bomb. A couple of other technologies could get us putt putting around like Ion drive but nothing that really gets us out of our solar system.

It is called reality.
What we use now doesn't say anything about what we might use in the future and if anything has been proven about humans in the last few centuries is that our ability to solve problems is mostly only limited by our imagination. Even now people way smarter than you or me are theorizing about ways to cover astronomical distances that don't require chemical energy to travel.

The point is. To make sweeping statements as you do has been shown to be a losing bet if opposed to human ingenuity.


The problem is that we are running up against the Laws of Physics. That is much different from the things we have invented in the past.

The other problem is that we think we can do it because we have been brainwashed by 100 years of Science Fiction. Most people think that because we see star trekking across the universe on TV and at the movies it can happen. They have no idea of the technological problems that have to be overcome to make it happen. Not a clue.

We have gone to the moon. There is a good possibility that we will send someone to Mars. Probably a couple of trips. I doubt we will ever establish any sort of permanent or even temporary base. I doubt we will ever go any farther than that.

By the way, Joe Dufus has changed the mission of NASA. Instead of concentrating on going to Mars like Trump wanted to do he is refocusing NASA's mission on this silly AGW scam. If anybody goes to Mars it will probably be the Joe Dufus Chicom buddies.
My point is that there are ways to circumvent any law, including the laws of physics, and finding ways to circumvent limitations is what science does best. We couldn't see exoplanets directly so we devised a way to find them despite this limitation for instance.

Who's to say that something weird like folding space around a spaceship to get from one place to another isn't feasible? You wouldn't require faster than light travel then. Or some other way that we can't even conceive yet?

Imagine telling someone in 1900 that we would land on the moon 60 plus years later? You would be considered crazy.


That folding space hogwash has no foundation in any reality that we know. It is nothing more than Science Fiction.
So was an automatic opening door during the original star trek series. Tablets, videophones, space travel, robots. All were conceived before reality caught up.

No foundation in reality

Einstein seems to disagree


 
We can visit Mars for a short time like we did the moon but the soil is toxic and the radiation is intense. We won't stay very long.
The problem is, it's a 2 year trip, minimum. To the moon is only a few days.

That's a LOOONG time to go without an equipment malfunction that could cost everyone their lives.

And MOST of the mars landings ended in failure


Most people don't have a clue how big Space is.

If the sun was the size of a golf ball the nearest star would be about 760 miles away.

It would take the entire energy output of the world for three years to propel a spacecraft the size of a Shuttle to 20% the speed of light.

...and Mars is relatively "close".
Not if an ion drive is employed, though I agree that blowing stuff off the Earth is meaningless
Nobody wants to face the fact that the earth is humanity's home/prison.

People have been brainwashed by science FICTION
Not so long ago the Oceans imprisoned people to where they were. Soon space will just be another ocean to cross


The Atlanta Ocean is absolutely nothing compared to the vast distances in Space. Like the speck on a nat's ass compared to the continent of North America.

We may be able to make it to Mars. In our wildest dreams maybe even a little farther out but we are never leaving this solar system.

It is one thing to invent a sail. It is another thing to invent something that circumvents the Laws of Physics.
Space can be crossed as we came from somewhere out there to begin with. Or do you believe that everything began in an Earth pond like Darwin. You are looking at the problem by blowing things off the Earth, it is true that this goes no where. There will be new engines using new concepts that do not necessarily even use fuel.


What I believe is that Space is vast and we don't have the technology or likely to ever get the technology to explore it like we see in the science fiction movies.

There is no such thing as a "Warp Drive". Any concept of a warp drive will challenge the Laws of Physics.

We mostly use chemical energy now. A controlled exploding bomb. A couple of other technologies could get us putt putting around like Ion drive but nothing that really gets us out of our solar system.

It is called reality.
What we use now doesn't say anything about what we might use in the future and if anything has been proven about humans in the last few centuries is that our ability to solve problems is mostly only limited by our imagination. Even now people way smarter than you or me are theorizing about ways to cover astronomical distances that don't require chemical energy to travel.

The point is. To make sweeping statements as you do has been shown to be a losing bet if opposed to human ingenuity.


The problem is that we are running up against the Laws of Physics. That is much different from the things we have invented in the past.

The other problem is that we think we can do it because we have been brainwashed by 100 years of Science Fiction. Most people think that because we see star trekking across the universe on TV and at the movies it can happen. They have no idea of the technological problems that have to be overcome to make it happen. Not a clue.

We have gone to the moon. There is a good possibility that we will send someone to Mars. Probably a couple of trips. I doubt we will ever establish any sort of permanent or even temporary base. I doubt we will ever go any farther than that.

By the way, Joe Dufus has changed the mission of NASA. Instead of concentrating on going to Mars like Trump wanted to do he is refocusing NASA's mission on this silly AGW scam. If anybody goes to Mars it will probably be the Joe Dufus Chicom buddies.
My point is that there are ways to circumvent any law, including the laws of physics, and finding ways to circumvent limitations is what science does best. We couldn't see exoplanets directly so we devised a way to find them despite this limitation for instance.

Who's to say that something weird like folding space around a spaceship to get from one place to another isn't feasible? You wouldn't require faster than light travel then. Or some other way that we can't even conceive yet?

Imagine telling someone in 1900 that we would land on the moon 60 plus years later? You would be considered crazy.


That folding space hogwash has no foundation in any reality that we know. It is nothing more than Science Fiction.
So was an automatic opening door during the original star trek series. Tablets, videophones, space travel, robots. All were conceived before reality caught up.

No foundation in reality

Einstein seems to disagree





The fact that Space may curve is an interesting theoretical thing to pursue but that is not the same as inventing some spaceship that can somehow allow Humans to navigate the galaxy.

You have difficult time understanding reality, don't you?

Figuring out how to have a self opening slide door is a lot different than getting a space ship to go one of the Orion stars to find green Orion sex slave chicks.

We have gone to the Moon. Chances are some humans (probably the Chinese) will go to Mars now that Joe Dufus has put the kabosh on NASA pursuing it.

That is just about as far as we will go.

With soon to be ten billion humans on the planet and that effect on our biosphere the challenge in the future will be survival, not Space exploration.
 
Time to stop with the fantasy. It ain't gonna happen. If it does, they'll all die there alone.
First 2 minutes tells you why

Unless we destroy ourselves first, humanity will colonize the entire solar system. You may not recognize them but they will do it. I guarantee it.

You CAN'T live in Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Your Anus, Neptune or Pluto.

So, no. we wont be colonizing anything.

Our own moon is 250 degrees in the day and 250 below at night. It is bombarded by radiation. Wont be living there either

You need more imagination. We can live anywhere we want to live. We can make any planet habitable if we want to, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Your Anus, Neptune or Pluto. Venus and Mars most likely will be first.

No we can’t
Venus is too late and the rest are gas giants
Mars is the key to making earth a duel planet species


Time to stop with the fantasy. It ain't gonna happen. If it does, they'll all die there alone.
First 2 minutes tells you why

Unless we destroy ourselves first, humanity will colonize the entire solar system. You may not recognize them but they will do it. I guarantee it.

You CAN'T live in Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Your Anus, Neptune or Pluto.

So, no. we wont be colonizing anything.

Our own moon is 250 degrees in the day and 250 below at night. It is bombarded by radiation. Wont be living there either

You need more imagination. We can live anywhere we want to live. We can make any planet habitable if we want to, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Your Anus, Neptune or Pluto. Venus and Mars most likely will be first.

No we can’t
Venus is too late and the rest are gas giants
Mars is the key to making earth a duel planet species

If you fell into a gas giant, youd never make it to a surface (Jupiter MAY have a metallic hydrogen core)

You would simply float in the super dense atmosphere like a weather balloon


You would just vaporize instantly

May the Farce Be With You

Just like the brains of childish escapist Trekkie nerds vaporized long ago.
 
If there are to be colonies off this planet, they will likely be space stations and not on planets. If we do use planets for mining or agriculture, most of the work will be robotic and the people will live on stations outside the atmosphere.
That`s a nice point. I guess building ISS in the orbit of Mars/Venus would be a much better idea than building a base on the surface. However, the mining campaign can cause some international conflicts which can lead to a war
Trustfundie Treehuggers

We've barely scratched the surface of Earth's natural resources. This Spacey pessimism is injected through lies told by those who want to create the illusion of scarcities so they can charge us more.

Unrestricted development of natural resources has been the main source of class mobility, which terrifies the stagnant and decadent hereditary ruling classes. It's the whole story of America, which is why the spoiled snobs in the Birthclass Supremacy Ivy League hate America so much.
 
We can visit Mars for a short time like we did the moon but the soil is toxic and the radiation is intense. We won't stay very long.
The problem is, it's a 2 year trip, minimum. To the moon is only a few days.

That's a LOOONG time to go without an equipment malfunction that could cost everyone their lives.

And MOST of the mars landings ended in failure


Most people don't have a clue how big Space is.

If the sun was the size of a golf ball the nearest star would be about 760 miles away.

It would take the entire energy output of the world for three years to propel a spacecraft the size of a Shuttle to 20% the speed of light.

...and Mars is relatively "close".
Not if an ion drive is employed, though I agree that blowing stuff off the Earth is meaningless
Nobody wants to face the fact that the earth is humanity's home/prison.

People have been brainwashed by science FICTION
Not so long ago the Oceans imprisoned people to where they were. Soon space will just be another ocean to cross


The Atlanta Ocean is absolutely nothing compared to the vast distances in Space. Like the speck on a nat's ass compared to the continent of North America.

We may be able to make it to Mars. In our wildest dreams maybe even a little farther out but we are never leaving this solar system.

It is one thing to invent a sail. It is another thing to invent something that circumvents the Laws of Physics.
Space can be crossed as we came from somewhere out there to begin with. Or do you believe that everything began in an Earth pond like Darwin. You are looking at the problem by blowing things off the Earth, it is true that this goes no where. There will be new engines using new concepts that do not necessarily even use fuel.


What I believe is that Space is vast and we don't have the technology or likely to ever get the technology to explore it like we see in the science fiction movies.

There is no such thing as a "Warp Drive". Any concept of a warp drive will challenge the Laws of Physics.

We mostly use chemical energy now. A controlled exploding bomb. A couple of other technologies could get us putt putting around like Ion drive but nothing that really gets us out of our solar system.

It is called reality.
What we use now doesn't say anything about what we might use in the future and if anything has been proven about humans in the last few centuries is that our ability to solve problems is mostly only limited by our imagination. Even now people way smarter than you or me are theorizing about ways to cover astronomical distances that don't require chemical energy to travel.

The point is. To make sweeping statements as you do has been shown to be a losing bet if opposed to human ingenuity.


The problem is that we are running up against the Laws of Physics. That is much different from the things we have invented in the past.

The other problem is that we think we can do it because we have been brainwashed by 100 years of Science Fiction. Most people think that because we see star trekking across the universe on TV and at the movies it can happen. They have no idea of the technological problems that have to be overcome to make it happen. Not a clue.

We have gone to the moon. There is a good possibility that we will send someone to Mars. Probably a couple of trips. I doubt we will ever establish any sort of permanent or even temporary base. I doubt we will ever go any farther than that.

By the way, Joe Dufus has changed the mission of NASA. Instead of concentrating on going to Mars like Trump wanted to do he is refocusing NASA's mission on this silly AGW scam. If anybody goes to Mars it will probably be the Joe Dufus Chicom buddies.
My point is that there are ways to circumvent any law, including the laws of physics, and finding ways to circumvent limitations is what science does best. We couldn't see exoplanets directly so we devised a way to find them despite this limitation for instance.

Who's to say that something weird like folding space around a spaceship to get from one place to another isn't feasible? You wouldn't require faster than light travel then. Or some other way that we can't even conceive yet?

Imagine telling someone in 1900 that we would land on the moon 60 plus years later? You would be considered crazy.


That folding space hogwash has no foundation in any reality that we know. It is nothing more than Science Fiction.
So was an automatic opening door during the original star trek series. Tablets, videophones, space travel, robots. All were conceived before reality caught up.

No foundation in reality

Einstein seems to disagree





The fact that Space may curve is an interesting theoretical thing to pursue but that is not the same as inventing some spaceship that can somehow allow Humans to navigate the galaxy.

You have difficult time understanding reality, don't you?

Figuring out how to have a self opening slide door is a lot different than getting a space ship to go one of the Orion stars to find green Orion sex slave chicks.

We have gone to the Moon. Chances are some humans (probably the Chinese) will go to Mars now that Joe Dufus has put the kabosh on NASA pursuing it.

That is just about as far as we will go.

With soon to be ten billion humans on the planet and that effect on our biosphere the challenge in the future will be survival, not Space exploration.

You have difficult time understanding reality, don't you?
I have no problem understanding reality. The reality is that humans have for centuries been able to solve problems that seemed insurmountable. I have no reason to believe that all of a sudden human ingenuity has all of a sudden found a plateau.
With soon to be ten billion humans on the planet and that effect on our biosphere the challenge in the future will be survival, not Space exploration.
If you recognize that overcrowding is the next global challenge why do you have trouble accepting that space exploration might be a solution for that? If anything it's the only for sure way to prevent the human race from going extinct.
 
why do you have trouble accepting that space exploration might be a solution for that?
Do you know how many TONS of propellant it takes to get a 150 pound person even into low earth or it, let alone take him to the nearest star in 70,000 years?????
 

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